The Duke and Duchess of Sussex interviews, TV and other media events Part 3

dianab · December 13, 2022, 01:15:39 PM

i believe meghan when she says she hadnt help from anyone.... diana had the same complaints.... obviously diana was telling the truth...

TLLK · December 13, 2022, 01:47:47 PM

@dianab-I respectfully disagree. IMO the BRF has made great strides in preparing potential new members: Sophie, Camilla, Catherine since the preparation that Diana and Sarah received was not the most practical IMO. I expect that even Autumn and Mike received some information as well even though neither were going to be senior working members of the BRF.

When it was obvious that there were areas that needed greater focus for the potential new members, then the "curriculum" could be altered and updated for the specific individual depending upon their prior knowledge and experience. Obviously there had to be added instruction for factors that were introduced in the late 20th century in terms of electronic communication, social media to go along with the familiar ie: how to greet the public, what were the dress code expectations for different events etc...

What I do believe is that ultimately Meghan chose which areas she wished concentrate on her study/preparation and then declined offers of assistance in others. After all these are adults, not children and they're ultimately responsible for what information that they retain. Compared to her late mother-in-law and Sarah, Meghan had far more academic knowledge and far better public speaking prowess. Plus those potential new members were going to be practicing their real life skills more frequently as they went out on their engagements especially with their seasoned partners.

All in all I believe that Meghan did very well when it came to following protocol for a wide variety of public events ranging from formal ones ie: Remembrance Sunday to more casual in person engagements. I only recollect minor mistakes now and then which would have been corrected and polished over time had they chosen to remain.

Meghan clearly didn't require any instruction in public speaking and appears to have excellent memorization skills. She was used to blocking scenes for her film/tv roles so she would be a quick learner when it came to knowing where to stand in a procession or on a seating chart would be quite easy IMO. Even at the Queen's Jubilee and funeral she appeared to seamlessly return to that protocol of when and where to stand, sit, and curtsy without any problems that I could see.

Amabel2 · December 13, 2022, 03:28:00 PM

Quote from: Nightowl on December 13, 2022, 10:05:23 AM
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I just hope Charles stops being and feeling like a dad and finally becomes the king he was meant to be.......if he invites them to the coronation then all bets are off on how long he will remain king as I think the people are disgusted and fed up with them as lots of Americans are from where I live......*Sherry to not bring up the idiots in Ca again*as I have been told... :laugh:

Charles is not going to lose his throne if he invites his son to his coronation

sara8150 · December 13, 2022, 07:16:26 PM

Curryong · December 13, 2022, 11:36:13 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 13, 2022, 12:16:51 PM
Of course she wasn't. You know the fanbase taunting facts of being the first girlfriend to Sandringham, the first fastest proposal, the first to do a duty with the Queen, the first fillintheblanks. To change the tune of now stating being fed to the wolves, racist family, saved by Gayle, now the aim is towards who knows who if there is a who. So tied to this thread and the general thread, the Sussexes will be IMO taunting whoever is in their target with subtle statements not diretly aimed to avoid being sued, only if they know they can win. That is how they will and have operated.

The duo do full throttle attacks or subtle passive aggressive attacks disguised as a nothing to see here, but actually psychologically there is a subconscious of hate speech. For example, Meghan tells a little story of going barefoot ripped jeans to the home of the Waleses (Cambridge's then) and explains she is a hugger, in her deceptive wording basically says that Kate is the opposite with a passive aggressive tone making it sound like nothing to see here, but it actually does have implications of subconsciously telling the public love me I'm authentic and true fillintheblanks of what hugging means in all its sense, the other one is not.

Also, I do have to say, I do efforts to visit old or new friends, family or not, to dress dignified, decent looking, respectable, it may be plain, simple or party look depending on the ''visit'' motive. But barefoot...I mean flip flop visit to the neighbours beach house. I keyboard know many people in the RIF from 5 to 10 years, I wouldn't visit you showig up barefoot. Period.

In the doco, if you watch it again, see the part where Meghan talks about the hugging, ripped jeans etc. She speaks about formality of the British, doesn?t mention names, and that she?s a hugger. She does not state that it was the Cambridges who came to the house, may have been Nott Cott, may have been Frogmore. As I have stated, she does not say who it was. However, she goes on to say it was in her and Harry?s home. In other words if it is William and Kate she?s speaking about, they were in Meghan and Harry?s abode, not in their own.

My grandkids walk about their homes with ripped jeans. So did I in the 1980s, and I also wear shorts in the summer as well. I don?t dress formally in my own house when relaxing and I don?t know anybody who does. Don?t go barefoot simply because I?m self conscious about my large feet. However, guests in my daughter?s house are actually asked, nicely, if they wouldn?t mind taking their high heeled shoes off if their wearing them, because of their parquet floors.

And so long as my house is clean and neat and the hosts, my husband and I, are hospitable and welcoming, no-one has any right to be stiff and starchy about anything, no matter who they are!

sara8150 · December 14, 2022, 12:12:39 AM

Quote from: Amabel2 on December 13, 2022, 03:28:00 PM
Charles is not going to lose his throne if he invites his son to his coronation

We have wait and see till coronation if King Charles will invite his son and Meghan to coronation and Harry will kept his mouth shut up!! 🤐 OR SNUB!! Due Netflix drama

Curryong · December 14, 2022, 09:54:53 AM

Quote from: wannable on December 11, 2022, 07:07:13 PM
Fake paparazzi
Fake mansion
Caught out in lies

They are happy to be smashing infamous!

He like Alec Baldwin paid (his wait out) the National Veterans (USA Military Veterans Charity Org) in lieu of jail time. Yet booked, charged of fraud (there are 2 other charities he stole from) Losers club.

There are loads of people who like to gather around royalty who could join this club. Plenty of Charles?s old friends and colleagues, Fawcett the Fence, Mark Bolland who has several black marks against his name for financial and other misdemeanours, Saville and Father Ball, anyone? Or maybe William?s godfather and mentor to Charles, Laurenz Van der Post, whose sexual behaviour came into question after his death. Or Armand Hammer, US crook and great friend to Charles who wanted him to be godfather to his first child until Diana said No! Losers Club anyone?

Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell an ex of Andrew?s, several of Fergie?s friends who?ve fallen foul of the law, Chinese and Eastern oligarchs and bankers, Hallo Andrew! The list for this particular club goes on.

And the above were actual friends of the royal family, not people who hosted an awards night or lent a house for a fee, but actual friends, many mixing business with the pleasure of mixing with the offspring of the Queen.

Nightowl · December 14, 2022, 10:51:38 AM

*The Loser's Club*..........we all make mistakes in life, each and every single human being on this earth does that, Nobody is perfect and some even learn from those mistakes so that they are not repeated and become better human being. Here is what gets me, Harry and Meghan have made tons of mistakes, some really horrible and disrespectful to the family and others, yet NOT once have we heard from them ( and boy they just don't know when to shut up) that they are sorry or that they apologized for those mistakes, Not once! And nobody can tell me they did not make mistakes, they keep *blaming it on other people* as we all have seen and read. Nobody is a victim their entire life and that is just what they are doing now, they are blameless and victims of the horrible evil mean royal family who did what....I think a long stay in a dirty dungeon would do them a world of good for them they might learn to appreciate all that they have been given in life..

Amabel2 · December 14, 2022, 01:15:05 PM

Strange you are sayng the Oh so accurate Tom Bowers, since you clearly don't believe he is accurate at all.. so why believe what he says? From what I've seen of Bowers' books he goes in for hatchet jobs

Princess Cassandra · December 14, 2022, 01:42:38 PM

The King is not perfect, and anything posted, written or said about him is likely to be slanted one way or another.
But looking at what he actually says or not says is telling. Right now I think it's telling a lot about his character that he isn't responding to the Sussex accusations and insults. This is his son, and his son may well be in trouble emotionally, and the King hasn't made it worse by reacting. As has been said, we are not privy to what is going on behind the scenes. I have the feeling that whatever THAT is will most likely be driven by compassion for his son, no matter how hurt or angry he is by what is said or done by the Sussex camp.

wannable · December 14, 2022, 01:52:31 PM

What aboutism

This is about Harry and Meghan's losers club. Will they keep on associating with losers? Time will tell.

The latest loser, that Harry didn't care to associate the entire ''home'' filming at a specifically military veterans charity fraudsters' home is bad for him (repercussions or not will be seen with time) and good for the media, more scrutiny articles.

TLLK · December 14, 2022, 01:55:16 PM

Discussion of anything related to the the separation and divorce of the former Prince of Wales and the late Diana, Princess of Wales aka the "War of the Wales" can continue in the thread linked below. Please do not bring it into any other thread on any forum. Further off topic posts will be removed.

Engagement, Marriage, Divorce of Diana and Charles (Thread from 2020 onward)

Amabel2 · December 14, 2022, 02:10:00 PM

Quote from: TLLK on December 13, 2022, 01:47:47 PM
@dianab-I respectfully disagree. IMO the BRF has made great strides in preparing potential new members: Sophie, Camilla, Catherine since the preparation that Diana and Sarah received was not the most practical IMO. I expect that even Autumn and Mike received some information as well even though neither were going to be senior working members of the BRF.

When it was obvious that there were areas that needed greater focus for the potential new members, then the "curriculum" could be altered and updated for the specific individual depending upon their prior knowledge and experience. Obviously there had to be added instruction for factors that were introduced in the late 20th century in terms of electronic communication, social media to go along with the familiar ie: how to greet the public, what were the dress code expectations for different events etc...

What I do believe is that ultimately Meghan chose which areas she wished concentrate on her study/preparation and then declined offers of assistance in others. After all these are adults, not children and they're ultimately responsible for what information that they retain. Compared to her late mother-in-law and Sarah, Meghan had far more academic knowledge and far better public speaking prowess. Plus those potential new members were going to be practicing their real life skills more frequently as they went out on their engagements especially with their seasoned partners.

All in all I believe that Meghan did very well when it came to following protocol for a wide variety of public events ranging from formal ones ie: Remembrance Sunday to more casual in person engagements. I only recollect minor mistakes now and then which would have been corrected and polished over time had they chosen to remain.

Meghan clearly didn't require any instruction in public speaking and appears to have excellent memorization skills. She was used to blocking scenes for her film/tv roles so she would be a quick learner when it came to knowing where to stand in a procession or on a seating chart would be quite easy IMO. Even at the Queen's Jubilee and funeral she appeared to seamlessly return to that protocol of when and where to stand, sit, and curtsy without any problems that I could see.

so wyhy make an issue of curtsying to the queen or beng surprised that she was expected t o do it>

wannable · December 14, 2022, 02:34:04 PM

Character trait of who she is, again a public person willingly does a reality show, one will discover ''the seams are showing'', whereas in the past it was allegedly until no one but the character ''reveals'' itself, mocking, side eyeing, etc. all have meanings.

sara8150 · December 14, 2022, 02:57:17 PM

wannable · December 14, 2022, 03:17:18 PM

^Another trailer, another example of passive aggresive vagueness to a group of shadows/ghosts with no names, a hit piece with no evidence.

''Negative stories'' to protect or agenda of the BRF against Meghan. Then they use Thomas Markle father as the example of the negative stories sent by the monarchy to the media. :sarcastic: The woman's recollections, her five friends People, the entire family ghosted minus Smoking Doria, of course the red flags will be REPORTED by the media.

She (and Harry) are playing with fire 🔥🔥🔥, when the two edge sword is taken out (the H and M game), one edge may 'hurt' their target, but the other edge will kill mortally, usually the one who plays with fire is the ''most'' hurt.

I quite understand the no action (so far) from Charles and William rumours towards people who are allegedly in a very serious situation of mental health illness, this is mentioned in official social media accounts. I mean the media has to date already stated by the large group of royal rota that W has instructed his circle of friends to ''not criticise his brother Harry Netflix show'', but the explanation is non to little, then you go to social media and the same official SM checkmark journalists state the reason carefully, as MH is a serious matter.

sara8150 · December 14, 2022, 03:28:18 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 14, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
^Another trailer, another example of passive aggresive vagueness to a group of shadows/ghosts with no names, a hit piece with no evidence.

''Negative stories'' to protect or agenda of the BRF against Meghan. Then they use Thomas Markle father as the example of the negative stories sent by the monarchy to the media. :sarcastic: The woman's recollections, her five friends People, the entire family ghosted minus Smoking Doria, of course the red flags will be REPORTED by the media.

She (and Harry) are playing with fire 🔥🔥🔥, when the two edge sword is taken out (the H and M game), one edge may 'hurt' their target, but the other edge will kill mortally, usually the one who plays with fire is the ''most'' hurt.

I quite understand the no action (so far) from Charles and William rumours towards people who are allegedly in a very serious situation of mental health illness, this is mentioned in official social media accounts. I mean the media has to date already stated by the large group of royal rota that W has instructed his circle of friends to ''not criticise his brother Harry Netflix show'', but the explanation is non to little, then you go to social media and the same official SM checkmark journalists state the reason carefully, as MH is a serious matter.

Yes its serious matter but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace will not comment it?s private business and private matters but King Charles and Prince William will have serious matter with Harry closed behind crisis meeting per King Charles,Daily Mail,Mirror and Sun

wannable · December 14, 2022, 03:38:05 PM

Yes, again in official social media accounts the alleged communications is with lawyers, supposedly C and W aren't speaking directly with H or M, it all ended after the 12 days of HMQEII Funeral proceedings.

You know social media fast news is becoming a thing, some of the speculations in the past are turning out to be true, it's like a drop by drop faucet screw that's old but not replaced, from the couple filming their own videos since day one (Confirmed by the duo themselves, filming and showing whatsapp messagees), to a wire thingy that allegedly is about to whistle.

The worst of themselves is coming out, no self awareness, they don't care, they are MH sick, which one?! one thing sure sure 100% sure NETFLIX doesn't care for no one but their own pockets, even if they see what's unfolding to their main protagonists.

sara8150 · December 14, 2022, 08:08:59 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 14, 2022, 03:38:05 PM
Yes, again in official social media accounts the alleged communications is with lawyers, supposedly C and W aren't speaking directly with H or M, it all ended after the 12 days of HMQEII Funeral proceedings.

You know social media fast news is becoming a thing, some of the speculations in the past are turning out to be true, it's like a drop by drop faucet screw that's old but not replaced, from the couple filming their own videos since day one (Confirmed by the duo themselves, filming and showing whatsapp messagees), to a wire thingy that allegedly is about to whistle.

The worst of themselves is coming out, no self awareness, they don't care, they are MH sick, which one?! one thing sure sure 100% sure NETFLIX doesn't care for no one but their own pockets, even if they see what's unfolding to their main protagonists.

Yes not since rifts and both brothers not speaking for two years but William not speaking to his brother ever!! Because of Oprah Bombshell interview,Netflix bombshell,book bombshell and mores but not without Palace attorneys and Sussex?s lawyers till crisis meeting per King Charles,Daily Mail,Mirror and Sun but I understand Palace will not speak on the camera not without consent or permission and also no release the pictures from King Charles or late Queen Elizabeth authorities must have permission from Buckingham Palace or Kensington Palace for press release pictures first if both Palace says NO they respect their wishes!!

Prince Harry and Meghan definitely cross the line and Harry is first royal broken rules to his own family and also he betrayed his family and country according to Sun newspaper said

Curryong · December 14, 2022, 08:43:10 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 14, 2022, 03:38:05 PM
Yes, again in official social media accounts the alleged communications is with lawyers, supposedly C and W aren't speaking directly with H or M, it all ended after the 12 days of HMQEII Funeral proceedings.

You know social media fast news is becoming a thing, some of the speculations in the past are turning out to be true, it's like a drop by drop faucet screw that's old but not replaced, from the couple filming their own videos since day one (Confirmed by the duo themselves, filming and showing whatsapp messagees), to a wire thingy that allegedly is about to whistle.

There is an old English expression about people spreading rumours, anonymously or otherwise. When people listening to the rumours point out that so and so has turned out to be true, the answer is that ?Well, even a broken clock is still accurate twice a day!.? And that is the truth! Of the thousands of pieces of gossip spread around Twitter etc every day, it?s hardly surprising if one or two bits turn out to have a germ of truth. And RRs, who are nothing more than gossipmongers, returning to their offices with the crumbs given to them by Palace aides to distribute are a prime example.

However, don?t know that the Wales couple are consulting lawyers. Nor that anybody else in the royal family is. Nor do we know that the Wales?s and the Sussexes haven?t communicated at all since the Sussexes returned to California after the Queen?s funeral. Nobody knows about these issues except the two couples themselves. And rumours, lies, gossip and innuendo reported from SM doesn?t make any of it true.

wannable · December 14, 2022, 09:14:46 PM

Just repeating official well known social media accounts. The 'wired' was never in their vocab, but it is after 3 episodes and 4 trailers, but still brewing. Now the filming themselves, I truly didn't even think it would come to be true, here we are. :laugh:

Curryong · December 14, 2022, 09:15:31 PM

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?I was told, because I?m quite critical of the monarchy in many ways, I was told that I could say what I want about #HarryAndMeghan, but I had to lay off of William and Kate. That was the instruction from the editor.?

Norman Baker writes quite regularly for the Sun and Daily Mail.?

wannable · December 14, 2022, 09:22:23 PM

The above is a to date jobless ex liberal politician. Google is my friend, he hasn't written for The Sun or the DM ages ago, for the Statesman about Charles this past September 2022, the latest and last article.

The Duo's problem is they need to give real examples of their claims. If they don't it's a blank/empty accusation statement, and the couple already are well known liars. Same goes with the Norman's, give an example of the occasion of when/why/who/date/time frame. The huge problem is IF they do, there are many sleuths that will check the date/time see what's in the press, etc ONLY if these accusations were taperecorded catching a courtier requesting it.

*****

When the ridiculous moaning of the shallow Sussexes is long forgotten, the monarchy will still endure.
As for Spare, 'It is also possible that it won't be the most brilliant book ever published.'

Stephen Glover
Black Community
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Curryong · December 14, 2022, 09:43:18 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 14, 2022, 09:22:23 PMe

When the ridiculous moaning of the shallow Sussexes is long forgotten, the monarchy will still endure.
As for Spare, 'It is also possible that it won't be the most brilliant book ever published.'

Stephen Glover
Black Community
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

The point is that Baker wrote about the royals after the British media turned against the Sussexes, which was quite early in their marriage, and some quite hostile pieces from the tabloids even before they were engaged. So, unless he hasn?t written for any tabloids for over four years, since the date of the Sussex engagement, his observations about Fleet St editors are still valid.

And I?ve read Baker?s book about the royals published in 2019. ?On 15 October 2019, Baker?s book, ... And What Do You Do?: What The Royal Family Don't Want You To Know, which critically examined the Royal Family's privileged status in public life, was released by Biteback Publishing.?and it?s a good read!

As for Stephen Glover, his observations and opinions are his own. Just that, opinions. And the statement that ?Spare? might not be ?brilliant? is hardly a ringing statement. Especially as he knows that in fact it will be ghost written by a quite brilliant and admired writer.

wannable · December 14, 2022, 09:50:53 PM

I don't see the point, I'm exercising ''where is the proof''. So much of Omid and the Squad wanting to know ''who is the palace source'' who is the X, it goes both ways.

He basically said in a tweet he likes to write against the Royals, so at least say who said about W&K, empty accusation is gaslighting the entire institution.

An Opinion from a Black person with a name. Stephen Glover.

Versus a Blank Statement from a White person who doesn't want to give a name. The Normans. He is doing exactly what Omid did in his latest article, a bunch of accusations with no proof of who/when/what/date/time of these Harry Vs Protecting William or Anyone in the BRF vs Meghan. Blank Empty Statements that won't fly nor can the BRF sue them or send a warning or use the UN Human Rights because it's ghosting/shadowing a ghost/shadow with no names. So it's a lie or they are cowards. OR a just because we want to destroy the monarchy.

:teehee: