Prince Harry's army career

[Eri]

@ chavita We were talking about the British rags not the man on the street...it's the British rags that have made him their favorite punching bag!!!

@ Where he was (in Afghanistan) he was one of the guys he watched their backs they did his or they died!!!

[cinrit]

^^ That's true, and that's what I said: "in a way he is", I said.  But bottom-line, he will never be able to truly be "one of the guys" because of who he is.  Just like other Royals who cannot be "normal", though they'd like to think they are, but aren't because of who they are. :flower:

Cindy

[Eri]

^Yes but you will understand that for 4 months he was (mentally) in a Place where he was just Captain Wales not Prince Harry for the reasons listed above ...having said that I think it was a mistake agreeing to the interview because again (mentally) I think he wasn't in the right "state of mind"  to grand an interview his life was in danger and he was still angry how he was treated by the British press for his Vacation In Vegas ...we saw proof of that when upon his return he gave a great interview...

[cinrit]

Yes, of course I know where he's been for four months.  And yes, of course he was angry at the media for publishing pictures of him nude ... just as others have been angry at having nude pictures published.  Harry is the same as other Royals, and what applies to them, applies to him, as well.  It's just that simple.

Cindy

[Eri]

I think whoever agreed to that interview is an IDIOT and whoever asked him what he was doing there is an even bigger IDIOT (like really?) the interview should have never happened just allow some pictures and send them away!!! I also think the British rags have missed their punching bag this past 4 months and were salivating and when he run his mouth they couldn't believe their luck...

[chavita]

Look, I love my Harry, but he never seems to be in the right state of mind does he? He admitted he was too much Army and not enough Prince in Vegas, and now he said too much during an interview. He needs to learn what to say or not say, and what to do and not to do because he is getting too old for this. The person interviewing them is always going to lead them into a trap to make them say too much or reveal something or make a mistake, they have to have their guard up and know exactly what to answer. When he makes the same mistakes over and over again, it just makes me wonder if he ever learns. :shrug:

I don't think that what he said about killing Talibans was such a big deal because that was obvious, that was his job during this four months. But his comments weren't well received. He just needs to learn, and apparently he did or I hope he did, when he gave a better interview once he landed in the UK.

He'll get better, I'm sure he'll be more careful with his words in the future.

[robynrose]

It most be difficult to be all Prince like while serving in a war zone . Whatever he said was going to be twisted . Having seen the interviews several times , he is honest . Too honest but I think he is by nature that way . He spoke like  the soldier he is during a deployment . He did not want to do the interviews . He says so . Why he just wanted to his duty and that one role . He had the sense to know to say no . The MOD wanted it and maybe the Firm . The headliners geared to create anything but the truth One says Harry says I killed Muslins . never said killed it interview or word Musilin The media is a disgrace . Reporters are hinting he did himself no favor with the press and could get rough for him.
when were they ever fair to him . I blame the Mod and the palace . They should had let him just do his job . Nothing up on the POW web yet  but we had Kate 's snaps and Willie at work . Harry did his job a soldiers jib

[Mike]

Did any family members greet him at the airbase?

When US troops return from Afghanistan, families are invited to the base where they land.  I just assumed the British had the same customs.  I guess not.

[Eri]

@ chavita He said nothing wrong it's just that the media twisted and blew out of proportion his every word .

[amabel]

He admitted he was too much Army and not enough Prince in Vegas, and now he said too much during an interview. He needs to learn what to say or not say, and what to do and not to do because he is getting too old for this. The person interviewing them is always going to lead them into a trap to make them say too much or reveal something or make a mistake, they have to have their guard up and know exactly what to answer. When he makes the same mistakes over and over again, it just makes me wonder if he ever learns. :shrug:

Of course the remarks about killing didn't go down well because the war's unpopular.  - and Harry IS indiscreet. He was also blamed for just talking about killing because it might inflame terrorists to try and take revenge on him.  He could have said "I don't discuss the details of my war service"...
And of course the media want some "lively talk" from him, to fill up their papers, but he could keep his mouth zipped and stick to a few mild stories about jolly japes wiht his lads, or the new baby.   He was foolish in Vegas..
It IS time he got a bit of horse sense and stopped making it so easy for the tabloids to write too much about him. But at heart he's a nice lad... just not the brightest.

[Eri]

^ So it is OK for him to kill TERRORISTS he just CAN'T talk about it ?  <_<

[robynrose]

The media ( I believe the Sun in Dec ) ran a story that Harry and his squad had killed  Taliban chief. He comes home never says the word kill . Tries to say he has to protect his fellow soldiers and the media says he is not a Prince and spoke out of turn . The media will twist Harry 's words . They can not print   Picture of Will ANd Kate ( they can not show any of their private life) so Harry has to be the one to be punished by media . He hates them and once again they have misquoted and twisted his words He just wants them to know he knows how they feel about him . How come they will not write that Kate ( and maybe Will just returned from holiday in  ) they are protected Harry is not I hope he goes to Africa for the next 5 weeks

[Szabo]

I agree with everything you said amabel.

[chavita]

He admitted he was too much Army and not enough Prince in Vegas, and now he said too much during an interview. He needs to learn what to say or not say, and what to do and not to do because he is getting too old for this. The person interviewing them is always going to lead them into a trap to make them say too much or reveal something or make a mistake, they have to have their guard up and know exactly what to answer. When he makes the same mistakes over and over again, it just makes me wonder if he ever learns. :shrug:

Of course the remarks about killing didn't go down well because the war's unpopular.  - and Harry IS indiscreet. He was also blamed for just talking about killing because it might inflame terrorists to try and take revenge on him.  He could have said "I don't discuss the details of my war service"...
And of course the media want some "lively talk" from him, to fill up their papers, but he could keep his mouth zipped and stick to a few mild stories about jolly japes wiht his lads, or the new baby.   He was foolish in Vegas..
It IS time he got a bit of horse sense and stopped making it so easy for the tabloids to write too much about him. But at heart he's a nice lad... just not the brightest.

Thank you, that was exactly my point. Sometimes Harry makes it too easy for the media.
Eri, things don't always go the way we want, Harry should know by know that media loves doing this to him, so it's time he learns how to deal with it and give them less windows to mess with his words and his actions.

[Eri]

^ In this case he gave the NO "window" they just twisted and blew out of proportion what he said  <_< the best option for him would have been to pose for some pictures and get it over with not give an interview because they would have done this to him no matter what!!!  :orchid: They had missed their punching bag too much!!!

[amabel]

He is NOT a punching bag. Harry is pretty popular with the media and with any of the public who take an interest in the RF.  He does these things to himself.  He should not talk about the details of his deployment.. it is military information that should be kept quiet.  And it is bound to aggravate the sort of people who don't like the military...
If he just kept the interview bland, they wouldnt have so many headlines out of his story.

[cinrit]

Anyone who is interviewed by the media has to be careful what they say.  Even if their words aren't twisted or taken out of context, even if what they say is reported 100% accurately, it's going to be in the news, either in print or on air.  Harry is closing in on 30, it's time to start practicing a little discretion.

Cindy

[Eri]

Discretion? What did he say that is so mind blowing?  :happycry:

[psm]

It is not easy to be interviewed by seasoned journalists who know how to manipulate the subject, get answers they did not mean to say. People like politicians get prepped before interviews not to reveal much. Celebs have the interviewers sign contracts outlining which subjects are off topic, have their people stay in the room in case somebody asks a question they do not like.

I do not think that was the case with Harry. Harry probably had no instructions, training. Easy to say he should be mature not to reveal, but age has less to do with it than experience and prepping. He was still in the base. Probably felt awkward to sit down and do that, which his fellow soldiers were continuing their daily lives. He wants to be one of the boys, and here is the media coming and taking that away.

I doubt that was his decision. I agree, it was MOD or The Firm or both who made that deal. He just has to roll with it. Yet that does not mean he does not feel agitated. He is too honest to hide his true feelings especially when they are this strong.

I agree, I wish he did not complain about media intrusion this much. But I believe, if the interview had not been conducted in the base and was done afterwards, he would have been more relaxed about it. Also, goodness knows what W&K told him about media intrusion about the pregnancy or how the palace released the info. He is away from all this and is getting all the news from his family. So I am not going to criticize him for having a different, somewhat slanted perspective on reality.

Regarding his video game comments and killing. I don't think he sounded aloof or unconcerned or spoiled. He sounded clear and honest. The video game thing is taken way out of context. The killing, a word which I believe he did not even pronounce, is rephrased and taken out of context.

That is basically why William cannot ever go to a remotely controversial mission. He gets to be the hero anytime he does his duty, and as the future king, that is how it should be. Harry on the hand, has just come from serving in Afghanistan and look at the treatment he is getting.

The good thing is I've just read this story in by Amanda Platell "Harry's an officer but not much of a gentleman" and she sounds very bitter because Harry is so negative towards media, well, she is a member of the media. Yet most comments are supporting Harry. Good to see that despite putting words to his mouth and twisting the meaning of what he's said; the public is not swayed.

All this makes W&H even more wary of the media and dislike them even more.

[RaspBerries]

Watching a video and then reading edited versions chosen for print, really exposes  them as journalists or agenda-driven rags.

[georgiana996]

He is NOT a punching bag. Harry is pretty popular with the media and with any of the public who take an interest in the RF.  He does these things to himself.  He should not talk about the details of his deployment.. it is military information that should be kept quiet.  And it is bound to aggravate the sort of people who don't like the military...
If he just kept the interview bland, they wouldnt have so many headlines out of his story.

.  Exactly what's all this self pity ESP in a time where there are so many people suffering die to several reasons if he cannot accept himself nobody will . He is not the victim that excuse is outdated and false so far the the media has bent backwards to make him seem victimised BS !!! As much a I love Harr my fab RF member he need to grow up sigh

[chavita]

You know what I don't get? How come he knew exactly what to say when asked about a girlfriend, but he said what he shouldn't have when asked about killing? He should have said the same thing, "Just doing my job here". Period. The press wouldn't get anything out of that.

[amabel]

He has been handling queries on girlfriends for a while,I suppose but he hasn't been interviewed just after active deployment before, and was unpractised as to what to say. 

[chavita]

That's not even the point. The point is that he knows when the press seems to be getting too intrusive and he knows how to evade the question. Why didn't he do the same thing here? I think he was too excited about his last 4 months and felt proud about his job. That's why just replied without considering any consequences. :shrug:

[marine2109]

Prince Harry arrives home showing wounds of battlefield (Video)

http://www.examiner.com/article/prince-harry-arrives-home-showing-wounds-of-battlefield