The Sussex Family General Chat Part 2

[TLLK]

Tbh, I don't think it matters.

I feel as if the articles about 'offering' a place is because of the blow back of the choice. It was just a bad PR move.

But even then, I don't expect them to take an offer to stay anywhere with the family. It's been said, the family doesn't trust them and they haven't trusted the family even before the interviews. I mean, even before Frogmore, they had another home they were planning for in Cotswolds, until that was leaked and photos were taken of their bedroom.

It's more of it is what it is and the media is playing it up because this is the next big thing they have to old on for the news cycle. H&M aren't really giving anything and also some of the palace favs, trying to spin the move because even they can see how bad this sorta looks but in the end, the family/charles gets what they want. H&M get their money back and there's nothing much to do about it.

I respectfully disagree that any offer of an apartment for the Sussexes to use  is because of "blow back." It's been the norm during the last reign, for members of the BRF to have apartments available to them  at BP for late night or early morning London engagements if they live outside of London. Therefore Anne, Andrew and Edward had their apartments given to them by their mother.   I believe that there would have been an offer one to the Sussexes  had they remained in the UK as senior working royals due to the fact that they like Andrew were living at Windsor. Now from what I have read, the housing situation at Windsor and in London (KP/BP/CH) has been part of an ongoing discussion for quite some time now, even prior to the late Queen's death. It would have been expected that as time passed, that some members of the family would need to downsize as their children grew and left home while younger couples with growing families would move into larger homes.

[HistoryGirl2]

^Agreed @TLLK. It was always going to be what happened. They were asked to leave in January. I think Charles had time to think this through. It makes the most sense. No need for you to have a home from the Crown estates, but the guest rooms will be available if you visit. The RF is moving on; business as usual.

I?m not really seeing any blow back either. Even info from the Sussex side has come out and said they?re not bothered by it. They?ve gone their separate ways; it was a pretty natural decision from Charles.

[Curryong]

Our Channel 9 news is reporting now that the Sussexes have received email correspondence about attendance at Charles?s Coronation. Other news outlets are reporting it too in the past couple of hours. The couple haven?t yet announced as to whether they?ll attend.

King Charles coronation: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle coronation invite status revealed

[TLLK]

Our Channel 9 news is reporting now that the Sussexes have received email correspondence about attendance at Charles?s Coronation. Other news outlets are reporting it too in the past couple of hours. The couple haven?t yet announced as to whether they?ll attend.

King Charles coronation: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle coronation invite status revealed

I would tend to believe that they've received the "save the date" email that likely went out months ago and now they'll be receiving the pertinent information that an adult  non-working member of the British Royal Family would require for the actual coronation day and the weekend events. I'm guessing it will have details on the expected general timeline,  the dress code, the "staging area" for the transportation, and possibly even accommodations for that weekend. There will be a number of family coming who are not based in London.

I am curious about the dress code as it might be clearly defined between the working and non-working royals. The working group are we going to see uniforms for the men? Are we going to see morning suits or white tie? Will the working ladies be in gowns and tiaras/orders? Will we see the non-working ladies in something similar to the Dutch Investiture with full length dresses and hats?

[TLLK]

^Agreed @TLLK. It was always going to be what happened. They were asked to leave in January. I think Charles had time to think this through. It makes the most sense. No need for you to have a home from the Crown estates, but the guest rooms will be available if you visit. The RF is moving on; business as usual.

I?m not really seeing any blow back either. Even info from the Sussex side has come out and said they?re not bothered by it. They?ve gone their separate ways; it was a pretty natural decision from Charles.

Exactly @HistoryGirl2 . Also I tend to believe that given the Sussexes have often cited security and have even declined to attend the DoE's memorial service over their concerns, that Charles knows that offering his son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren accommodations at  BP should help them feel safer while in the UK. Now I do realize that BP has had some well publicized break ins over the decades, but overall the family should feel secure. There's a large garden for the children to enjoy as well as the palace swimming pool. At this point in time, no one lives at BP full time though Anne/Timothy and Edward/Sophie do maintain apartments there.

[wannable]

^^^Roya Nikkhah getting a call from Montecito is so Omid smashing the crockery.

[HistoryGirl2]

I would tend to believe that they've received the "save the date" email that likely went out months ago and now they'll be receiving the pertinent information that an adult  non-working member of the British Royal Family would require for the actual coronation day and the weekend events. I'm guessing it will have details on the expected general timeline,  the dress code, the "staging area" for the transportation, and possibly even accommodations for that weekend. There will be a number of family coming who are not based in London.

I would also wonder what the timeline to RSVP would be. I?m a little surprised they haven?t declined the invitation. I would imagine the security lawsuit will not be resolved before then.

[Curryong]

Who knows, regarding the dress code TLLK. I have to say that long dresses and hats are fairly uncommon at such formal events for the British royals. I know the Queen wore such a combination for, I believe Anne?s wedding or it might have even been Prss Margaret?s, in a vivid turquoise colour. But in general the BRF ladies tend to go the elaborate hat and coat and dress route if they aren?t going to be in the full get-up of tiaras and long gowns. I can imagine the men may well be in uniform though.

[wannable]

RSVP: I recall first week of April in order for organizers to arrange or rearrange name cards visible or in thier digital map.

It is the same date (first week of April) Westminster Abbey will be closed to the public until 09 May 2023.

Trivia: HMQEII coronation Westminster Abbey was closed for 6 months.

[wannable]

^^^Roya Nikkhah getting a call from Montecito is so Omid smashing the crockery.

I still find this ^ more juicy goss than the invite.

[TLLK]

Who knows, regarding the dress code TLLK. I have to say that long dresses and hats are fairly uncommon at such formal events for the British royals. I know the Queen wore such a combination for, I believe Anne?s wedding or it might have even been Prss Margaret?s, in a vivid turquoise colour. But in general the BRF ladies tend to go the elaborate hat and coat and dress route if they aren?t going to be in the full get-up of tiaras and long gowns. I can imagine the men may well be in uniform though.

Hmmm...might be time to start a poll.

And I did start a poll.  :yesss: It's good to be the Administrator.  :windsor1:

[HistoryGirl2]

RSVP: I recall first week of April in order for organizers to arrange or rearrange name cards visible or in thier digital map.

It is the same date (first week of April) Westminster Abbey will be closed to the public until 09 May 2023.

Trivia: HMQEII coronation Westminster Abbey was closed for 6 months.

Thanks for the info, @wannable!

[wannable]

You are welcome

[TLLK]

Who knows, regarding the dress code TLLK. I have to say that long dresses and hats are fairly uncommon at such formal events for the British royals. I know the Queen wore such a combination for, I believe Anne?s wedding or it might have even been Prss Margaret?s, in a vivid turquoise colour. But in general the BRF ladies tend to go the elaborate hat and coat and dress route if they aren?t going to be in the full get-up of tiaras and long gowns. I can imagine the men may well be in uniform though.

Whoa... just had flashbacks to those 1970's and 1980's millinery years for QEII,  QEQM and PssM.  Please Lord I hope we will be spared those horrors.

[Curryong]

Whoa... just had flashbacks to those 1970's and 1980's millinery years for QEII,  QEQM and PssM.  Please Lord I hope we will be spared those horrors.

Well yes! The turquoise outfit was a bit of a nightmare I seen to recall. It sort of billowed as the Queen moved. But the 1970s/80s were pretty ugly decades fashion wise anyway, imo. I?m hoping for tiaras, gowns and a bit of bling but have an awful feeling it?s likely to be a sea of colourful coats and hats for the majority instead, with the exception of the Queen of course.

Later: I looked it up and the turquoise outfit was from Margaret?s wedding in 1960, worn with one of her more close-fitting hats I seem to remember. But that?s the only time as far as I recollect that the Queen wore a long gown with a hat (not shown) at such an event.

RCIN 100041 - Evening gown

A better photo. Queen Elizabeth at Princess Margaret's wedding in 1960 | Queen elizabeth, Norman hartnell, Princess margaret

[Curryong]

And more family members wearing long gowns and hats at the same wedding. It truly is the only time I saw this.

The Queen Mother, Prince Charles and The Queen attending Princess Margaret's wedding. | Princess margaret wedding, Princess elizabeth, Young

[Nightowl]

Well yes! The turquoise outfit was a bit of a nightmare I seen to recall. It sort of billowed as the Queen moved. But the 1970s/80s were pretty ugly decades fashion wise anyway, imo. I?m hoping for tiaras, gowns and a bit of bling but have an awful feeling it?s likely to be a sea of colourful coats and hats for the majority instead, with the exception of the Queen of course.

Later: I looked it up and the turquoise outfit was from Margaret?s wedding in 1960, worn with one of her more close-fitting hats I seem to remember. But that?s the only time as far as I recollect that the Queen wore a long gown with a hat (not shown) at such an event.

RCIN 100041 - Evening gown

A better photo. Queen Elizabeth at Princess Margaret's wedding in 1960 | Queen elizabeth, Norman hartnell, Princess margaret

Thanks for the picture of HM in that gorgeous blue gown, even with the styles being not of today's fashion, HM looked stunning and so beautiful.  Picture of a perfect lady at that time.

[TLLK]

And more family members wearing long gowns and hats at the same wedding. It truly is the only time I saw this.

The Queen Mother, Prince Charles and The Queen attending Princess Margaret's wedding. | Princess margaret wedding, Princess elizabeth, Young

Thank you @Curryong for the photos.  This must have been one of QEII'S big events after her maternity leave ended. She had just given birth to Andrew in February that year.

I believe that Edward and Sophie's wedding was late afternoon and the female guests were in long dresses with fascinatirs.
It is possible that we could see a dress code of long dresses and hats for the royal ladies who are not part of the working group ie Meghan, Beatrice,  Eugenie,  Louise, Zara, Sarah...

[Curryong]

Thank you @Curryong for the photos.  This must have been one of QEII'S big events after her maternity leave ended. She had just given birth to Andrew in February that year.

I believe that Edward and Sophie's wedding was late afternoon and the female guests were in long dresses with fascinatirs.
It is possible that we could see a dress code of long dresses and hats for the royal ladies who are not part of the working group ie Meghan, Beatrice,  Eugenie,  Louise, Zara, Sarah...

Really? I saw Edward and Sophie?s wedding on TV and couldn?t remember at all that their guests were also on long dresses and hats. I always thought every wedding of the Queen?s children had seen the old dress, coat and hat thing. My memory is going, going,lol! As for this event, which is much grander than a royal wedding, we shall have to see. It will be a shame to see few to no tiaras.

[Amabel2]

As far as I can recall, at Sophie's wedding hte ladies wore hair things like fascinators and long dresses.

[TLLK]

Really? I saw Edward and Sophie?s wedding on TV and couldn?t remember at all that their guests were also on long dresses and hats. I always thought every wedding of the Queen?s children had seen the old dress, coat and hat thing. My memory is going, going,lol! As for this event, which is much grander than a royal wedding, we shall have to see. It will be a shame to see few to no tiaras.

@Curryong-They had a late afternoon/early evening wedding so the dresscode was unusual for a BRF wedding. The request was for "no hats" and the majority of the guests complied. QEII wore a fascinator of ostrich feathers dyed to match her lavender gown with a floor length hem. Sophie's mother's dress was lower  calf length as was Princess Anne's.  QEQM ignored the requests and came dressed with a hat and day dress. Pss Margaret was in a wheel chair but appears to have followed her elder sister's lead.

One of the few links with full length photos showing QEII's dress that day.

Royal Wedding Throwback: Prince Edward and the Countess of Wessex | Tatler

This event had the least amount of coverage of any of QEII's children's first weddings. None of the major networks covered it in the U.S. as I recall it was only Fox News in the U.S.

So now that I've pulled us completely off topic,   :hijack!: I need to steer us back to the Sussex family chat.

[Curryong]

Thankyou for giving my memory a bit of a jog, TLLK. I?ve been having a think and somewhere in the dregs of my memory I do recollect reading that the QM disobeyed directions and came in a dress! This was only after you mentioned it though! I suppose she thought as she was in her 90s she could dress however she wished! Wasn?t it Sophie who asked for no hats?

However, apart from Sophie and Edward?s appearance (Sophie looked nice but that put-together tiara plus Edward?s kind designer necklace for his bride, ugh)  I have absolutely no recollection of this wedding, though I remember all the others. I certainly watched it on TV but it must have been quite forgettable. Of course it happened at a time when the British public were a bit off the royals because of Diana?s death and all that had gone before.

[Amabel2]

Yes the dresses were not exacly great, the queen was rather laughed at for dressing like a 1920s flapper, and the wedding itself did not get much coverage.

[TLLK]

Yes the dresses were not exacly great, the queen was rather laughed at for dressing like a 1920s flapper, and the wedding itself did not get much coverage.

Now I have the "Charleston" playing over and over in my head.  :laugh:

[TLLK]

Actor Tyler Perry's plane landed in Santa Barbara and then  he went to visit the Sussex family for a couple of hours. He later returned to his home in Atlanta,GA.

Tyler Perry visits Harry and Meghan at ?12m California mansion after Coronation RSVP | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Perry was spotted boarding his jet in Los Angeles to make the 20-minute journey to Santa Barbara, less than an 8-minute drive from Harry and Meghan's California pile.

The film director was seen driving to the couple's home in a suit and tie, a bodyguard escorting him to meet the couple.

Perry's visit is believed to have lasted around two hours after which he once again boarded his plane to head to his home in Georgia.