Books written about and by the Sussexes Part 3.

[wannable]

So, Harry is making a blank statement (again) of Meghan's birth, despite the transcript of the description tending to a bath birth. She entered a bath, had an epidural, he then jumps (jumps meaning he stops detailing) to push Meghan...okay.

Sandhurst and Harry's flight instructor have had to deny Harry's statements in his book ASAP because future generations will think that in both cases, the teaching is 'as Harry sees fit.

[Curryong]

Meghan was not in the bath or under any water at the time she was given an epidural. Harry doesn?t mention water, he mentions a bath. I got on all fours on the floor with my second baby for a few minutes. It?s where the pregnant mum feels most comfortable.

Epidural - NHS

I don?t know why you?re talking in that dramatic way about people being electrocuted by an epidural.

[wannable]

From the same official website, search Epidural and water birth (bath or pool) and it is not allowed. The official website will take you to the NCT website with full details.

[Curryong]

From the same official website, search Epidural and water birth (bath or pool) and it is not allowed. The official website will take you to the NCT website with full details.

Erm, I?ve had three children and was present at all my four grandchildren?s births as well. And Meghan was in a bath without water. Women go into all sorts of places to get comfortable.

[wannable]

Oops Harry forgot to tell the ghostwriter she entered a bath with no water, hence creating the Archie trend in social media, which is the first trend, the second trend is Archie's birthday 3rd birthday Harry playing Polo and now Pa will have his coronation.

The other day I was angry that Harry used Charlotte, and said if he wanted to use an example, his children.  BUT NO, I'm sorry. These recollections do hurt whoever he involves. From children to family members, to teachers, to the military and so on.

[Curryong]

Oops Harry forgot to tell the ghostwriter she entered a bath with no water, hence creating the Archie trend in social media, which is the first trend, the second trend is Archie's birthday 3rd birthday Harry playing Polo and now Pa will have his coronation.

What was wrong with Harry playing polo for part of the day? The family would have gone home and had a birthday tea with a couple of Archie?s friends. At least Harry?s not like Charles who rushed off to play polo as soon as his wife was home from the hospital. And as the Coronation will only last a bit over an hour, it?s not as if all the 3 and 4 year olds in the RF are going to be expected to sit still for hours. Louis is older that Archie and I?ll be surprised if he is brought into the gallery for longer than five minutes at the most.

Honestly, people sitting behind their computer screens or on their phones chattering about that!!

[wannable]

^I agree with your opinion in reference to the second trend of Archie's birthday, it is a backlash of the sussexsquad whom wanted to create a anti coronation trend tied to Archie's birthday. The adverse reaction was with receipts of Harry playing polo, the Santa Barbara Polo website with date/times of his team playing, which took place at Archie's birthday.

[changemhysoul]

https://twitter.com/Sarah79Davis/status/1617128496001589248

British Media and the need to lie to people to get to the quotes they want.

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[TLLK]

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What the air instructor had to say, glowingly, about Harry as a pilot, no doubt disappointing the Fail.

From the Fail article.

Former Sergeant-Major Booley, 57, served in the military for 33 years and ranks prince Harry as one of his top five students.

He blames ghostwriter John Joseph Moehringer for the inaccuracies, saying the tales have been 'dramatised'.

He also said he did not ever call the prince 'Lt Wales', as is suggested in Spare.

Despite the 'fantasy' in the book, Mr Booley told the paper he still sees the prince as a 'friend', adding he is a 'man I respect immensely who would always have my ear'.

The original story was in the Mirror, so here's a link to that article. 

Prince Harry's army instructor says story in Spare book is 'complete fantasy' - Mirror Online

Prince Harry?s dramatic account of a ?suicide? training flight is a fantasy ? says the man who was sitting alongside him.

The royal claims in his autobiography that an Army instructor deliberately stalled their Slingsby T67 Firefly propeller plane without warning.

But ex-Sergeant Major Michael Booley insists every detail of training flights is discussed beforehand.

And he tells the Sunday Mirror: ?I am staggered by this. In shock even.?

His clear version of the incident suggests Harry has come up with yet another porker ? after a string of claims in his book were proven to be inaccurate.

The prince wrote in his controversial bestseller: ?On one of our first flights together, with no warning, Booley threw the aircraft into a stall.I felt the left wing dip, a sickening feeling of disorder, of entropy, and then, after several seconds that felt like decades, he recovered the aircraft and levelled the wings.

?I stared at him. What in the absolute?? Was this an aborted suicide attempt?? No, he said gently. This was the next stage in my training.?

But Michael ? who ranks father-of-two Harry in his top five students ? dismisses the prince?s tale, saying: ?Whilst the book compliments me, the recollection of the sorties and lessons is inaccurate, I?m afraid. It?s important to highlight that nothing in the cockpit comes as a surprise.

?Every sortie is thoroughly briefed beforehand, every single aspect. ?The sortie is flown exactly as per that brief. The only time there are surprises is later in the syllabus, not as stated in the book, when emergencies are introduced.

?Engine failures are practised before the first solo obviously, in case the student suffers one.? Michael, 57, served in the military for 33 years and taught the Duke of Sussex to pilot the Firefly in 2009.

Harry ? who flew Apache attack helicopters in Afghanistan ? was presented with his wings a year later by his father King Charles, Colonel-in-Chief of the Army Air Corps.

While Michael maintains the utmost respect and admiration for Harry, he questions parts of Spare, which was ghostwritten by leading author John Joseph Moehringer.Michael says he never called the royal Lt Wales, as the book claims. He adds: ?I think the reference to the flying sorties has been dramatised. I think it?s a result of the ghost writing. I never called him Lt Wales, he was an officer, and I called him Sir.?

Michael still holds Harry, 38, in extremely high regard and recalls the time they shared a roast lamb for a Sunday lunch.

They were also photographed together in 2009 shortly after Harry graduated from the Defence Elementary Flying Training School.

Michael adds: ?He was an exceptional student, very talented indeed. He is a friend and a man I respect immensely who would always have my ear.?

Michael is not the only former comrade to question Harry?s version of events.

[wannable]

https://twitter.com/Sarah79Davis/status/1617128496001589248

British Media and the need to lie to people to get to the quotes they want.

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''I highlighted the inaccuracies of ''flying sorties''.  IT still remains the main issue, rather than Harry thought the instructor wanted to commit to suicide by purposely letting the aparatus go downhill.  The teaching of losing control/going downhill is done academically in theory before any practice flight. Period. It is in his own alleged facebook page.  All sorties are pre discussed before practice. What is hard to understand?

IF he thought it was a suicide joke (interpretation of Curryong 'black joke (dark joke)), he has a huge problem, considering his wife's suicidal thoughts.

[wannable]

EXCLUSIVE: WhatsApp users share Prince Harry's memoir Spare for free

^True, the Spaniards breaking every rule. I did receive it in Spanish though via Whatsapp group.

[TLLK]

It appears that Spare is not selling very well in Montecito in part due to the weather issues at the beginning of the month left residents unable to pick up their copies in person.   Then again the neighbors might have opted to go with an electronic version of the book or simply are not interested. This is a town that lives by a omerta like code of silence about the residents.

?Didn?t read it, will not read it?: Harry and Meghan of little interest to Montecito neighbours | Prince Harry | The Guardian

[Curryong]

It appears that Spare is not selling very well in Montecito in part due to the weather issues at the beginning of the month left residents unable to pick up their copies in person.   Then again the neighbors might have opted to go with an electronic version of the book or simply are not interested. This is a town that lives by a omerta like code of silence about the residents.

?Didn?t read it, will not read it?: Harry and Meghan of little interest to Montecito neighbours | Prince Harry | The Guardian

Why is the Guardian so interested in what people in Montecito are reading is more to the point? So, this book has been selling in the hundreds of thousands all over the world, but our correspondent will go to this little enclave in California and if they haven?t been selling many copies of Spare we can then gloat! What the?! I?d say for a very small bookstore 30 copies sold on pre order was a very reasonable number. And if I had to guess I would say that most Montecito residents who were interested would have ordered a Kindle copy or audio of Spare.

The British press have a fixation on the place where this little family reside. Oh, the residents don?t care for the Sussexes, according to one tabloid report a few weeks ago who found about three supposed residents who said they never see them, and like most Americans, aren?t interested in Royalty anyway. Great!! was the Fail?s response, the whole town loathes them and hopes they?ll leave, then!

It would be quite comical if it wasn?t so downright sad! It would be much much better if these newspapers concentrated on things in the world that really matter rather than retailing gossip about the Sussexes and creating their own narrative from it. I?m not holding my breath though.

[PrincessOfPeace]

An opinion piece from The Cut. Posting here because it deals with Harry's book.

"Harry's refusal to even consider a full break with the institution he criticizes suggests that he's still enamored with the palace and the advantages of royal life. He wants the social cache and validation from the public that he is different from his family, but he also wants the benefits that come from being the Duke of Sussex. (Spare's cover plainly says its author is "Prince Harry.") I feel for Harry and Meghan and all they have endured in the public eye. But Harry's reluctance to take a real stand against the harms of the British monarchy makes it harder to keep rooting for him."

Having already alienated monarchists in the UK, Harry and Meghan are running the risk of losing support of woke Americans which they desperately need.

"Prince Harry Is Upset About the Wrong Thing" - Prince Harry Is Upset About the Wrong Thing

[Amabel2]

Rahter silly that they ever thought H was going to make a break with the monarchy

[wannable]

Harry when asked by Anderson Cooper about his titles, H replied what difference would that make?

The interviewer does not reply like The Cut, basically Cooper was silenced in a pre planned recording.

[Amabel2]

Obviously Harry is not going to give up his titles.  He needs them to remind the world that he is the Kings son, that he called the queen Granny and for years DID have access to the private side of royal life.

[wannable]

"I was brought into the world in case something happened to Willy. I was summoned to provide back-up, distraction, diversion and, if necessary, a spare part. Kidney, perhaps. Blood transfusion. Speck of bone marrow. This was all made explicitly clear to me from the start of life's journey and regularly reinforced thereafter."

Why is he in the line of succession? Why is he a counselor of state? The state of mind that he believes he is body part replacement for King Willy. To write that ''to date'', when there is Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis. 

Here is another non reflection of a 'to date' stating that he is no longer a Spare to the Heir. Edward VIII where are you, hello, come help Harry.

[Amabel2]

True much of the book shows that Harry if he really believes all the stuff he writes is not in a good mental state. its worrying that apparently for 10 years after Diana's death he believed that she had faked her death. its worrying that he apparetly hit and hurt his bodyguards.
Its not a good sign that he did not know that he had to ask for permission to get married.

[wannable]

He is a case study 📚

Hence the many social media users with programs about M and H. Theory rather than practice. I do not find it wrong.

His ghostwriter liked a short tweet that said Harry is self absorbed.

[Amabel2]

Case study?  No idea what you mean

[TLLK]

With the release of Spare and the less than positive impact that the book and its accompanying publicity interviews have had on Prince Harry's reputation and credibility, the author of this article has some suggestions for the Prince on how he can repair both. IMO the suggestion for Prince Harry to refocus on his work with Invictus and his other charities ie Sentebale would be an excellent way forward to salvage his damaged reputation and credibility.  My personal suggestion: During that time offer up an apology to the Ludgrove school matron for including her story in his book and let the world know that you are aware of the hurt that you've caused by publicly sharing it. It's very likely that Pat has scoliosis which is the same condition that his cousin Princess Eugenie has.

Prince Harry's Attack on the Royal Family Has Backfired Spectacularly

Problem #1-Oversharing and lack of dignity.

Edward Coram James, chief executive of PR agency Go Up, told Newsweek: "You need to look at what it is about the royal family that people love or that makes them what they are. The underlying attribute is respect.

"If you remove that and you take that away then you're left with nothing really. At that point Harry just becomes like a reality TV star.

"In over-sharing, all of a sudden the respect and admiration he had across the world for being essentially a war hero and a royal is gone and he has managed to unfortunately make himself a laughing stock.

"The question is can he win back that respect and that sense of quiet dignity because that is the only way he can rehabilitate his image.

"I think that some of the damage is pretty irreparable because he has now put it out there and he will be forever associated with Elizabeth Arden cream."

What is particularly striking is that he perhaps should have known just how ill-advised this anecdote was from his own exposure to some of the most sophisticated political operators on the planet, not least of which Barack Obama.

Harry who has?at points at least?been close to the Obamas once interviewed the former President during a guest editorship of high brow U.K. station BBC Radio 4.Sorry," the former leader of the free world replied, "we don't answer those questions."

There is a reason why Obama shut down that discussion and it is because it would have trivialized the serious brand he has built and undermined the sophisticated tone of his existing relationship with the public.

Barack Obama is, for what it's worth, the second-most popular public figure in Britain ahead of every U.K. politician and behind only Queen Elizabeth II, while Michelle is fourth, behind Kate Middleton, according to YouGov. There is one other American in the top ten?Martin Luther King Jr.

In light of that moment, it is very difficult to believe Obama would ever have shared a story equivalent to the one about Harry's experience with frost bite.

Problem #2 The Prince's response regarding racism and the Royal Family after the Oprah interview responses.

Another moment that sparked debate in Britain and criticism from quarters that are normally supportive of the couple came when Harry said in promotional interviews that he and Meghan had not accused the royal family of racism.

One of the most famous moments from their Oprah Winfrey interview in March 2021 came when Meghan accused an unnamed royal family members of having "concerns and conversations" about "how dark" her unborn child's skin might be.

Oprah appeared visibly shocked and said "What?" and "Who is having that conversation with you?"

However, when it was suggested to Harry in an ITV interview that he had accused the royals of racism he replied: "No I didn't. The British press said that. Did Meghan ever mention that they're racist?"

Suggestions on how to repair his credibility and regain respect.

Coram James said: "Step one is very simple. He needs to stop talking. Not just he needs to stop over-talking. Now he needs to stop talking full stop.

"I would be telling him to really lean into his military duties. I'd be telling him to lean into his Invictus Games."

He said the games, for wounded military personnel past and present, had gained Harry "so much respect" on the international stage, which was the "trump card" that could help him rebuild his brand.

Coram James said: "He also needs to make up with his family, probably. The public in general don't like inter-family squabbles. It makes it look like you're the problem."

Schiffer said: "It's not the end of Harry's brand. He can turn it around and the way he turns it around is standing down from the attacks on the king and William and focusing back on the environment and mental health and equality and away from the book."

He added that America loves a "comeback story."

[Amabel2]

I think that things have gone so far with Harry that any attempts to come back, or apologise for the foolish things he's said would just look like a cynical attempt to get back his public.
I dont think he cares about the ordinary public at all, that's instanced by his mocking at Pat.  He may be concerned for Eugenie, but she's a royal, but an ordinary woman with scoliosis, who is middle aged, not rich or hot, nope. 

[Princess Cassandra]

Well, Camilla may not have ?made deals? with the Press but she certainly kept in regular touch with the editor of the Sun tabloid in the very early years of the Charles-Diana marriage, because he admitted as much years later.

He would ring her, discuss certain stories and gossip about the couple and what she believed about it from her knowledge of Charles and his set, and if she stated that she believed so and so info was correct then he would go ahead and print it. This is a very young woman Camilla was reporting on to a tabloid editor, a young woman who had no suspicion that anything of that sort  was going on. Camilla was prepared to go behind Diana?s back to give that tabloid editor information, so who knows what else she has done in that area.

And then there was Mark Bolland, who was brought in at the beginning by Charles and Camilla to whatewash her image and rehabilitate them both. It was both of them who were 100% behind Borland?s campaign to do just that. The campaign partly succeeded but not quite, as Camilla still isn?t a hugely popular royal even today.

Camilla Sums Up Everything That's Wrong With the Royal Family | Opinion

Well, thank you for that information. I have no doubt it is true, as you are far more informed than I am. How do you all do it - get to know so much? Anyway, what I mean to say is that her quotes are kindness itself, and media posts say that those who meet her find her to be natural, unaffected, and pleasant. Many comments have been that they have grown to like and respect her. Reading between the lines, I may or may not be correct, but I've come to the opinion that she was not the monster others made her out to be. I think she has been maligned, not least on this site (that, I can verify), and has never behaved badly because of it. As the couple made their way into William and Catherine's wedding you could hear jeers and ugly calls from the crowds outside. As they neared the door (at the end of the steps) you could see (but not hear) Charles asking something of her and she nodded yes. You could see she was putting on a brave front. Next they were filmed from the inside as they came through the entrance, and she had a smile and handshake for the greeters. I felt that said a lot about her. But as I say, I can't claim any extensive behind the scenes knowledge...just my obsevances.

[wannable]

Case study?  No idea what you mean

It means that after 2 years of Megxit, professionals are also making their comments too based on theory, not practice with what availability news directly from the horses mouth.