A New Chapter Part 8

[wannable]

Building their lives overseas. I would not worry.

The more they trash the more people and countries dislike them. They have to reinvent themselves into something else

[Princess Cassandra]

FOX News has a story about the walkabout and discusses the accusation that Meghan was working with her PR people to arrange a photo opportunity against protocol. The comments are interesting.

[wannable]

Omid, Richard Kay are the only ones saying it is not true, but this time the USA networks consulted with Buckingham Palace in reference to Meghan and Harry doing their walk and photo op, they did their homework rather than doing an Oprah or Gayle. 

In other words the USA media alerted BP and the BBC and other UK networks. They have to, there is a colab with all the free YouTube viewing. Aerial filming too, the hardest.

[Princess Cassandra]

Omid, Richard Kay are the only ones saying it is not true, but this time the USA networks consulted with Buckingham Palace in reference to Meghan and Harry doing their walk and photo op, they did their homework rather than doing an Oprah or Gayle. 

In other words the USA media alerted BP and the BBC and other UK networks. They have to, there is a colab with all the free YouTube viewing. Aerial filming too, the hardest.

I guess they worked fast. And with everything else that was going on at the time!

[Nightowl]

If true, why would anyone be surprised?  H/M need this to make money!

[Curryong]

Fox TV is a right wing channel and organisation that has gone after Meghan from the beginning (she?s a keen Dem and there?s been an election loss by Trump, who made remarks about her) . That channel is incredibly biased.

Meghan promised the girl who gave her those flowers that she would put them on the pile of tribute blossoms for her. That girl didn?t want an anonymous aide to do it.

[Nightowl]

Fox TV is a right wing channel and organisation that has gone after Meghan from the beginning (she?s a keen Dem and there?s been an election loss by Trump, who made remarks about her) . That channel is incredibly biased.

Meghan promised the girl who gave her those flowers that she would put them on the pile of tribute blossoms for her. That girl didn?t want an anonymous aide to do it.

I don't watch Fox news or any news station, the only thing I watch for is the weather report, way to much violence and murders and rapes anymore....here in Chicago is always about men and guns killing anyone who crosses their path they don't like.   And I could care less about that idiot Trump as he is very dangerous to our country, somebody needs to do something about him before it is too late.

Girl and flowers, well if Meghan wasn't there to deliver the flowers, just who does she think would do it then?  Nobody had any idea who was going to be in that walkabout did they?  Still Meghan lost her cool and someone's camera caught it.   Can never be to sure who is watching these days for cameras are every where  so being in public is a nightmare if a person is not careful.......no wonder I stay home a lot for it is dangerous out there just walking to the grocery store...LOL

[wannable]

There is only 2 large networks that are filming indoors, outdoors, aeriai in the UK at multiple locations because they have the biggest op going on.  Countries that want to 'join' like the USA will join either BBC or SKY ''imagery'' in mute, using their own anchors speaking over the imagery. You don't believe it? Try 2 screens, click 2 different channels in each screen, if the imagery is the same, bingo. IF different, then try a third screen/3rd channel. Since day 1 there is only 2 different imagery available BBC/SKY.

BBC and SKY are British owned. They said they received the alert, hence these UK broadcasters also alerted BP. 

IF you have a foreign broadcaster filming at 1 only location, they have to ask credentials OFCOM to stay at the location, most of them are along the sidewalk converted tents outside BP since day 1/September 08. They have joined the BBC and SKY because these 2 have the biggest op. The foreigners will very likely have a 2nd op at Westminster today or join the UK imagery offered by BBC or SKY.

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In reference to Meghan's flowers/PA PPOWs staff, she misremembered how royalty meet and greet works. Firstly if she had received more flowers, when was she planning to hand it over to the staffer? Secondly trying to lecture the staffer of his/her ''per usual'' job is a  :hehe:  She doesn't have to tell him where the flowers should go, they know it's for the Queen!

[sara8150]

Harry and Meghan 'angry as it emerges Archie and Lilibet will not get HRH titles' | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle pulls out of glitzy LA awards ceremony | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle cancels red carpet appearance due to be held following Queen's funeral | HELLO!

Harry and Meghan 'furious' as Archie and Lilibet will NOT get HRH status - but will be called Prince and Princess | The Sun

[Princess Cassandra]

From where I sit it appears that Meghan and Harry wanted their cake and eat it, too. Royal life is unique and if you want to play you have to adapt to it. If you decide to leave, then you leave, but you can't be partly in and partly out. I was surprised that Harry hadn't worked that out.  If they are living in the USA where royalty was eliminated almost 250 years ago they shouldn't expect their children to be given an HRH. 

[Nightowl]

Yes, totally agree with you 100%

[Curryong]

I doubt very much that Charles has had hours and hours to spend this week or last negotiating with Harry and Meghan or indeed with anyone. He?s been far too busy. Nor do I feel that Harry is full of angst about this particular question in a week when it?s all been about his grandmother.

Journalists, commentators, ?royal experts? are always endlessly telling their readers/listeners that Harry/Meghan are getting angry/excited/frustrated about all sorts of things. Nine tenths of it is just media speculation, and in the absence of any sort of evidence backing it up then these tabloid articles (in the Fail and The Sun for God?s sake) are just more of the same.

[wannable]

The weeks and months to come will tell the world IF the couple sell their ''experience'' this week in the UK related to HMQEII death.

[Princess Cassandra]

I will be so surprised if they don't, as there are many articles about their being angry that their children will not be HRH's.  So, they will raise their victim personae over that.  Otherwise, neither one will miss opportunities to say that they were front and center during the family mourning.  And quite honestly, this is a process that has more pageantry than anything I've ever seen.  I am American and see it as rare formality, traditional and very appropriate and moving, but many others will see it as medieval and archaic.  I wonder if Meghan sees it that way, but how can anybody view the lines of mourners and the spontaneous expressions of sadness, mourning, gratitude, and reverence for the Monarchy as we are now seeing and not be moved by it?  How could she not be?  Anyway, I think she'll use it in her quest for fame and importance.   

[Princess Cassandra]

Harry and Meghan 'angry as it emerges Archie and Lilibet will not get HRH titles' | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle pulls out of glitzy LA awards ceremony | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle cancels red carpet appearance due to be held following Queen's funeral | HELLO!

Harry and Meghan 'furious' as Archie and Lilibet will NOT get HRH status - but will be called Prince and Princess | The Sun

I think Meghan is right to cancel her engagement so soon after the funeral. I may question her motives but I agree with her taking this step.

[wannable]

BREAKING: Prince Harry WILL wear military uniform for Queen vigil alongside seven other grandkids
Buckingham Palace officials are understood to have intervened after it emerged Prince Harry's disgraced uncle, Prince Andrew, had been given special permission to wear his uniform

[Curryong]

BREAKING: Prince Harry WILL wear military uniform for Queen vigil alongside seven other grandkids
Buckingham Palace officials are understood to have intervened after it emerged Prince Harry's disgraced uncle, Prince Andrew, had been given special permission to wear his uniform

?After it emerged?lol?? Oh Gimme a break! More likely that BP are in damage control after various commentators (including anti-Sussex ones) complained about the unfairness of it and talkback radio and Twitter joined in! As if BP wouldn?t have known about Andrew being given permission to wear his Admiral?s uniform. Pleeeze! The Palace should get up to date about cutting possible controversies like this off at the Pass by treating the two men equally in the first place.

[wannable]

I'd say King and Ministry of defence with all due respect to Russell Myers (The Mirror who broke the news).

Waiting for the next tantrum  :sarcastic: of ''new'' state event at BP Sunday evening (Black Tie, Black dresses) where the trio (Andrew, Harry, Meghan) are not invited.

[Curryong]

I'd say King and Ministry of defence with all due respect to Russell Myers (The Mirror who broke the news).

Waiting for the next tantrum  :sarcastic: of ''new'' state event at BP Sunday evening (Black Tie, Black dresses) where the trio (Andrew, Harry, Meghan) are not invited.

When has it ever been stated (even in the tabloids this week) that Harry has flown into any kind of tantrum about not wearing his uniform? Andrew may well have when the plans for the funeral etc was laid out by his brother, as otherwise he wouldn?t have requested ?special permission for the vigil? etc. right from the beginning. However, Harry took it on the chin. If he hadn?t then the tabloids would have reported it days ago.

And as for the State event I doubt very very much that Harry cares about anything more than putting the sorrow of this week behind him and getting back to California to see his kids after the funeral.

[wannable]

It depends on the interpretation one gives of his statement about the uniform debacle.

Most of the media outlets in the UK and including the USA said it sounded angry (get all the synonyms used by the media from fuming to enraged)

How did they interpret it? The reminder of his 10 years in the military. Followed by he will be in morning dress.   

IMO the whole statement was good to go. I personally didn't see any enragement.

The tantrum bit, is the Media, since a new event has been added, an evening state event with the add on that the trio isn't invited to attend, watch the multiple articles of can't go/angry/will go/not a working royal, etc etc etc.

[wannable]

I'd say King and Ministry of defence with all due respect to Russell Myers (The Mirror who broke the news).

Rebecca English
@RE_DailyMail

On Saturday evening, HMTQ?s 8 grandchildren will stand vigil beside her coffin in Westminster Hall for 15 minutes.
The Prince of Wales will stand at the Head, the Duke of Sussex at the Foot. At the King?s request, they will both be in uniform.
Spouses will not attend.

^ And here it is, the Commander in Chief King Charles! (All RR's have the same report from BP)

[Curryong]

Yes, Charles is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, as his mother was. So what! Do you think you are telling me something I don?t know, lol! You don?t think that Charles wasnt responsive to what was undoubtedly a contentious issue, ie Harry not being allowed military uniform at any part of this week?s proceedings while his disgraced uncle was? Because if you do I?ve got a bridge to sell you!

C-in-C or not, BP and Charles are very keen to not have any controversies at the very beginning of this new reign and the Harry uniform thing was building up in the media to be a big one. And what the King decides is needed (in protocol matters, not military ones) he gets. The military bends to his will. And that wasn?t a military decision, it was a PR one, in which he was beginning to be seen by media and public alike as both unfair and petty.

[wannable]

The media is saying that Harry did make a fuzz (Sky News Live is repeating it just now), so the Commander in Chief King Charles decided that both gents will wear their uniform to keep the peace and focus back on the Queen.

[Curryong]

The media is saying that Harry did make a fuzz (Sky News Live is repeating it just now), so the Commander in Chief King Charles decided that both gents will wear their uniform to keep the peace and focus back on the Queen.

Oh right, the media stuck up for Harry and are now saying it was all on him! Sounds like their usual tactics. And Charles couldn?t figure out on his own when the arrangements for Andrew to wear a uniform for the vigil that it wouldn?t reverberate in the public arena as being incredibly unfair and petty towards Harry? To be that tone deaf in the face of a possible looming problem doesn?t say much for Charles?s forward-thinking!

[wannable]

After all the trashing Harry did, knowing most of what he and his wife have said are lies, running to the media to run his mouth about his own family.  He will have to bare with all the bad press when it comes his way. 

So it may be true, tantrum 👶🏻