Princess Beatrice and Count Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi are engaged, wedding 2020

[TLLK]

THe divorce came in 1996. Diana was the wife until then. Had she not been the wife he really could have left her. the piece of paper has meaning

Please keep the War of the Wales out of this thread. <_<

[sandy]

TLK, Dianab brought up Diana. I answered her. IT was not about the War of the Wales.

what's the fuss about?  A lot of people consider themselves as step parents to children even if they aren't legally married to their partners.  And most young royals for many years now have lived with their SO's before marrying.  Its pretty well known. Bea is going to marry this guy, so if she now regards herself as the child's stepmum, prior to the wedding  I don't see what the problem is...

I would not say "a lot of people." " A lot of people" also consider themselves stepparents after the wedding.

They have not "formally" lived together or moved in together. It is not pretty well known. They have premarital sex and spend nights and weekends but there was never any formal announcement that someone is moving in permanently with a royal.

I think the media uses stepmum and the media does not speak for Beatrice.  Bea is still not his wife and what would happen say if the engagement was broken and she was saying she was stepmum and all of a sudden she was gone. It would create a lot of confusion for the child. I don't think she calls herself the stepmother.

The reality is that she is the fiancee and unless there was a secret wedding she is not the stepmother. Besides which the child has a mother who could marry and they would spend more time with the child than Bea. Bea may want her own children in any case and put her priority on them.
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with all their differences, i can bet they sure disagreed with your view. the only thing 'united' them was a piece of paper. it's all over their books, phone-calls, interviews, in confidences that become public

This is off topic.

[sara8150]

Please keep the War of the Wales out of this thread. <_<

I?m with you,@TLLK

[TLLK]

you are no authority over that. and yes kate lived with william at his wales home. and she had chelsea flat. as the others couples lived together too. it was even reported as since the ed and sophe days the queen prefered couple getting married after living together and really knows each other.

people living together dont always needs set up 'housekeeping together', many times they moved to place of partner and that's that

Yes all of these couples were living together before and after their engagements. Pretty much every European royal family has seen their members do the same: WA/Max, Frederik/Mary, Felipe/Leticia, Victoria/Daniel, Mette-Marit/Haakon with the exceptions being Phillips/Mathilde and Guillaume/Stephanie IMO.

[sandy]

Check out my post sara re: TLK.

[sara8150]

Yes all of these couples were living together before and after their engagements. Pretty much every European royal family has seen their members do the same: WA/Max, Frederik/Mary, Felipe/Leticia, Victoria/Daniel, Mette-Marit/Haakon with the exceptions being Phillips/Mathilde and Guillaume/Stephanie IMO.

That?s true!

[sandy]

Yes all of these couples were living together before and after their engagements. Pretty much every European royal family has seen their members do the same: WA/Max, Frederik/Mary, Felipe/Leticia, Victoria/Daniel, Mette-Marit/Haakon with the exceptions being Phillips/Mathilde and Guillaume/Stephanie IMO.

I disagree. They did not set up housekeeping on any steady basis. Kate while putting some time in at Party Pieces was in residence with her parents. William could not put her up in his barracks so they spent Some Time on weekends together.

Bea's boyfriend has a complicated domestic life. He could hardly take the kid he had with another woman and move into Bea's home. There was the ex to consider in the arrangement. I would not be surprised if the ex gets married and she and her husband spend the most time with the child. Beatrice might want to concentrate on a family she has with Edo. Though she would welcome the child she could not be a substitute mother nor spend more time with the child than the mother does.

[TLLK]

@sandy-You can simply agree to disagree with those of us who believe that the couples did live together and that Beatrice acts as a stepmother to Eduardo's son. :shrug:

[sandy]

She can "act as" but in reality she's not. Though I really doubt Bea thinks of herself as the stepmother especially when the child has a mother that spends the most time with him. THere are limits...

[TLLK]

We will have to agree to disagree. I believe that she does consider herself to be a step mother. Relationships with children don't require a piece of paper but simply love and caring.

[amabel]

@sandy-You can simply agree to disagree with those of us who believe that the couples did live together and that Beatrice acts as a stepmother to Eduardo's son. :shrug:

They live in the same city, probably about  a mile apart.. and since Edo' seems to be sharing parenting duties with his ex, I would assume he can spend a good deal of tiem with Beatrice at Her apartment.  People don't generally send out notices to the Times that they are moving in together but most couples do, before marriage... and the royals are no different...
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She can "act as" but in reality she's not. Though I really doubt Bea thinks of herself as the stepmother especially when the child has a mother that spends the most time with him. THere are limits...

Well when she marries Edo she will legally be his stepmother so Its to be hoped that she does think of herself as having a role in his life and being his stepmother.  I hope she is not going to wait till the wedding day to try and get close to the kid...

[sandy]

Doesn't Edo work? The royals do not have formal "living together situations".

[amabel]

Doesn't Edo work? The royals do not have formal "living together situations".

Nobody has "formal living together" because its generally an ad hoc situation that happens bit by bit.  I don't know what you mean about Edo working. I assume he ahs some kind of business.. but I doubt if he is working 6 days a week or that he does nto have a fair amount of time to spend with his girlfriend...

[sandy]

Some do have formal living together agreements. And I am not talking about the royals.

I am wondering if Edo has other things to do besides juggling his domestic responsibilities

[amabel]

Some do have formal living together agreements. And I am not talking about the royals.

I am wondering if Edo has other things to do besides juggling his domestic responsibilities

he si in some kind of property business, I believe.  But I don't think Bea is one fo the hardest workers.. and I believe she flits from job to job.  Im sure that they have plenty of time to spend together.. and since they probably live quite close by in West London they can easily spend at least half their weeks together...

[dianab]

She can "act as" but in reality she's not. Though I really doubt Bea thinks of herself as the stepmother especially when the child has a mother that spends the most time with him. THere are limits...

in reality she's a stepmother, nobody here's entitled to describe what's real or not in their relations

[LouisFerdinand]

What do you think of Princess Beatrice using Carlie, an Italian bridal lace with leaf detail for her wedding dress?     
Ivory Embroidered Bridal Lace ? Carlie - YouTube

[sandy]

in reality she's a stepmother, nobody here's entitled to describe what's real or not in their relations

In reality IMO she's not stepmother until she marries Edo. Yes, you are right, that nobody is entitled to describe what's real or not  but you insist she's stepmother. I have my take on it and you have yours.

[Curryong]

It's very pretty and would look nice in detailing IMO. Please, not all over the dress. Practically every bride between 2007 and 2014 wore lace on their wedding day. Itchy, scratchy, ugh!!

[sandy]

he si in some kind of property business, I believe.  But I don't think Bea is one fo the hardest workers.. and I believe she flits from job to job.  Im sure that they have plenty of time to spend together.. and since they probably live quite close by in West London they can easily spend at least half their weeks together...

I guess she lives on some sort of a trust fund. sometimes she is seen partying in NY. What sort of property? Is he a realtor or does he flip houses

[dianab]

What do you think of Princess Beatrice using Carlie, an Italian bridal lace with leaf detail for her wedding dress?     
Ivory Embroidered Bridal Lace ? Carlie - YouTube

it'll be nice a italian designer. but i've no idea what are her favorite designers

[Princess Cassandra]

^^^@dianab-Since I am a former full time and now substitute teacher, I've become very familiar with these types of living situation in which unmarried partners are considered to be the step-parents. If the the now separated/divorced biological parents are in agreement that their current and unmarried partners are participating in the child rearing then they'll typically include them on the student's information as one of the parents/guardians who are permitted to drop off/pick up their students.
@Curryong-I've pulled up some of Beatrice recent looks and she seems to favor lace sometimes for her outings ie: weddings, Ascot, evening wear so I wouldn't be surprised if there is some lace embellishment. I do agree though that she will need a fitted waist and that she'll probably wear a veil.

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princess beatrice wearing lace - Google Search
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OOOHHH look at this day dress especially the bodice. Now this is a good start IMO to "design" her wedding dress. Could go with shorter sleeves or keep the 3/4 length. It's from 2015 but it is a classic shape that showcases a slim waist on Beatrice.

Princess Beatrice's Best Fashion Looks - Beatrice of York Chic Outfits

She has a slim waist and overall small upper body, and a good designer would always proposed something that accents the positive. She could look very feminine and enviable lovely on her wedding day. The big issue, I would think, is whether the customer follows advice. Beatrice has been known to wear some pretty bizarre, unflattering clothes. I very much hope she makes a good decision on her wedding gown. I hope she wears a veil and a tiara, showing her lovely hair at its best (not everyone has enough hair to wear a tiara well). Anyway, that's my hope!

[Curryong]

Beatrice seems to be fond of lace in her more formal clothing so I'm not holding out for a plain dress unadorned by any of it on her wedding day, to be truthful. And yes, some of her choices have been stylish and pretty. And I want to see that York tiara and a long veil.

Like Princess Cassandra I'm hoping that she doesn't just go for a trend regardless of her body shape, as something emphasising her hips would not look great IMO.

[amabel]

I guess she lives on some sort of a trust fund. sometimes she is seen partying in NY. What sort of property? Is he a realtor or does he flip houses

I have no idea  I doubt if he "flips houses"...

[Curryong]

Edo is the CEO of the real estate firm Banda, which he founded. The firm specialises is discreetly finding houses and properties for extremely wealthy clients, to their specifications. The sort that don't look in real estate firms' shop windows obviously! Anyway he's made a fortune out of it as he's reputedly a multi-millionaire.