Prince Harry & Meghan Markle Wedding St George's Chapel Windsor 19/5/18 - Part 2

[royalanthropologist]

Honestly. That sister is a piece of work :notamused:

[sara8150]

How Harry fought the Palace to win wedding invitation for 'awkward auntie' Fergie - causing a 'massive headache' for royal aides
Duchess of York will be invited to Harry's wedding | Daily Mail Online

[royalanthropologist]

Definitely sounds like a made up story. "DOE and POW not happy then hero Harry saves the day". Tabloid mush in my opinion. DM is always looking for conflict and if there is none they make it up.

[wannable]

Rebecca English from the Daily Mail does not want to lose her "Royal Source Credibility". 

She is defending herself and her Buckingham Palace minion source of why she had initially written an article saying Sarah was Not invited, and that there is an alleged war with Kensington Palace.  She later wrote a second article (without copywriting Richard Palmer from The Express) saying Sarah Is invited.

1st article (RE Not Invited)
2nd article (RE yes invited but did not explain or give credit to RP Express)
3rd article to not lose credibility and that of her BP source, explains confusion and the BP/KP wars.

The conclusion is Rebecca English's source is from Buckingham Palace, whilst Richard Palmer's source is from Kensington Palace, to finger point the later, someone from Harry's team!

[Curryong]

It's been well known for years that the teams at the Palace, KP and CH are at odds. I should think that the people at KP know better than those at the Palace as to who Harry is inviting or who he isn't. And how do we know that Andrew hasn't been kicking up a stink with his mother about Sarah always being left out in the cold, causing a change of heart? No Royal Correspondents know exactly what's going on. Sometimes they just get a hint and run with it in their newspaper and are later proved wrong.

[royalanthropologist]

That may very well be true but you also have to acknowledge that DM is fond of making up these negative stories based on "a source close to the family" or "unnamed sources" or "a well connected source". Then later on they turn round and say it is not true, before claiming credit for the new story. All the while, they make it appear as if members of the BRF have been left "damaged" or "reeling" after a series of inaccurate, inflammatory and quite frankly libelous articles from the media.

It is all a game and started when Rupert Murdoch tried to run the monarchy into a soap opera. You need protagonists, antagonists, pantomime villains and secret plots to run a soap opera. The media makes them up if they do not have the real thing. For nearly 2 decades the BRF has kept a very tight ship with everyone on song. I am sure the media is not happy about that. They want juicy family gossip and falling out so that they can sell based on the never-ending soap-opera.

[wannable]

Rebecca did not mention CH but BP. A mini war between KP and BP does not bode well for Harry's present and future. I hope this mini war does not escalate...Rebecca is rubbing hurt ego of BP in her latest, her point, she can't lose her BP contact, her salary and employment is at stake.

[Duch_Luver_4ever]

Could also be too that the DM stuck their foot in the trap with all the "Sarah is snubbed" stories and now they have to chew their foot off to get out, so to speak. Likely she was due to come to at least the reception from the get go. The ceremony...well maybe they're going to use it for PP to get acclimated to Fergie in time for Octobers wedding.

[wannable]

I am 100% sure there is a "Mini War" between the Monarchs QEII household BP versus the third household, particularly Harry's team in KP. (There is no at odds with CH, because CH pays the KP household, both CH and KP is paid by the Duchy of Cornwall, Prince of Wales, Prince Charles)

Rebecca English REACTED with her 3rd article explaining the BP/KP Harry mini war, because of this, also she is the Royal Correspondent and Royal Editor of the biggest paper, Daily Mail, hence my above explanation posts, she put out there that her source is BP, whilst Richard's was KP, hence Harry watch out!:

Richard Palmer on Twitter: "Our website has been carrying an alternative story all day. But, like many stories it carries, that was just cut and
If you wish to read all the coments, enter Richard Palmer's twitter link.

Basically:
Richard Palmer
‏Verified account
@RoyalReporter

Our website has been carrying an alternative story all day. But, like many stories it carries, that was just cut and pasted from another paper unchecked. This is my understanding of the position. Invitations are not due to go out for some time yet.

This is a problem across the industry particularly with web journalism, I?d say. There is a rush to copy what rivals have written without making checks. I?m trying to do something about it because I believe newspapers have to be trusted sources to survive.


Nobody Special
‏@nobutanousewife

Agree totally, but I'd also add on to your comment about newspapers needing to be trusted sources in that newspapers also need to have trusted sources too.  In the case of the RF, your info should always come from the official source and not 'an insider'.


Richard Palmer
‏Verified account
@RoyalReporter

All that matters is that you are confident that your source is correct imo. Official ones can be wrong and unofficial ones right.

Richard is not trashing Rebecca, he is simply stating that his source said something different to her source; one may be right whilst the other may be wrong....so we have 2 households giving both RC's completely different information, of course Rebecca had to go running to defend her source, throwing in that 2 sources from different households are at odds.

[Curryong]

There may not be a full-blown feud between the people at KP and those at CH, (or Charles HQ as I call it.) However, William sure as hell didn't like it when, in a short-lived experiment, the KP Office was closed and everything put under the aegis of Charles's staff. Things soon went back to he and Harry having a separate office.

Perhaps this was because the Cambridges and Harry get ten times the publicity in the media for their public engagements than Charles and Camilla get, something that has long perturbed Charles. That was more or less hinted at the time and it's clear that William and Harry enjoy having their own separate staff dealing with them alone.

They certainly don't always tow the line with regard to CH or probably Charles's own opinion of how things should be done at KP, nor should they. They are certainly inexperienced and sometimes there are snaffus. However, as the Rebecca English stuffup shows, they row their own boat at KP, and if she was relying on a BP source to tell her the truth about Sarah's attendance or no at Harry's wedding without checking sources at KP as well then it's clear she wasn't in the loop.

[LouisFerdinand]

To honor his mother Princess Diana, could you see Prince Harry having his aunt, Baroness Jane Fellowes do a reading at the wedding?

[sara8150]

Will Sarah Ferguson Be on the Guest List for Harry and Meghan's Wedding
Sarah Ferguson Will Be Invited to Prince Harry's Wedding | PEOPLE.com
I don?t think so!! We have wait and see till may 19!!

[Duch_Luver_4ever]

To honor his mother Princess Diana, could you see Prince Harry having his aunt, Baroness Jane Fellowes do a reading at the wedding?

Depends on his personal preference of aunts, usually Sarah gets tapped for this duty. Although, as a nod to Robert Fellows and the grey suits, she might be asked, but if I were a betting man, id bet on Sarah. Although, I doubt he'll tap either for a reading, likely will come from the Windsor side of the family.

[TLLK]

There may not be a full-blown feud between the people at KP and those at CH, (or Charles HQ as I call it.) However, William sure as hell didn't like it when, in a short-lived experiment, the KP Office was closed and everything put under the aegis of Charles's staff. Things soon went back to he and Harry having a separate office.

Perhaps this was because the Cambridges and Harry get ten times the publicity in the media for their public engagements than Charles and Camilla get, something that has long perturbed Charles. That was more or less hinted at the time and it's clear that William and Harry enjoy having their own separate staff dealing with them alone.

They certainly don't always tow the line with regard to CH or probably Charles's own opinion of how things should be done at KP, nor should they. They are certainly inexperienced and sometimes there are snaffus. However, as the Rebecca English stuffup shows, they row their own boat at KP, and if she was relying on a BP source to tell her the truth about Sarah's attendance or no at Harry's wedding without checking sources at KP as well then it's clear she wasn't in the loop.

@Curryong-IMO it is frustrating that there are three separate households providing information for the BRF unlike their European counterparts who just have their one official royal source.

[Curryong]

@Curryong-IMO it is frustrating that there are three separate households providing information for the BRF unlike their European counterparts who just have their one official royal source.

Yes, TLLK, it does seem very inefficient and of course it's a breeding ground for petty jealousies and little feuds among the staff at the three places and among royals themselves at times.

However, I'm not sure that the European system would work. As far as the media is concerned Scandi and European royalty like the Dutch and Belgians don't have the sheer numbers of inquiries to their offices that say the younger BRF members attract. There is the Commonwealth too and all the interest Royal tours attract, something that's a little different to the European tours to other countries and sometimes requires a half a dozen Press officers. It's a bit different I think to the yearly announcement of the cruise to the Faroes by the DRF for example.

It's a curse as well as a blessing that Britain and the US share a common language. However I think it's true that the BRF is better known than any other Royal House on the North American continent (leaving aside for a minute the Spanish in Central and South America.) The amount of stories and speculation about the Cambridges and Harry and Meghan from press and others in the English-speaking world addressed by KP would IMHO dwarf any questions from other locales addressed to the Offices of most European Royal Houses. 

As well, it was well known that Charles was dissatisfied with being lumped in with his parents and siblings and the lesser royals at BP. He wanted to be in charge of his own voice, his own operations. And so do his sons. The system is likely to continue until William becomes POW and perhaps even longer than that.

[sara8150]

It's no Sacrifice! Sir Elton John 'cancels two gigs to make sure he can attend Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding'
Sir Elton John  'cancels two gigs to make Royal Wedding' | Daily Mail Online
Like he attend Duke of Cambridge?s wedding in April 2011 the entertainer wanted remember the Royals brothers on big days
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Will he perform at their wedding? Sam Smith reveals whether he will sing at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's nuptials ... after hinting he would love to perform on the couple's big day
Sam Smith on why he won't be performing at royal wedding | Daily Mail Online
We have wait and see till may 19 will reveal of reception singers after ceremony no matter Harry and Meghan will chosen who will be?!?
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How Harry fought the Palace to win wedding invitation for 'awkward auntie' Fergie - causing a 'massive headache' for royal aides
Duchess of York will be invited to Harry's wedding | Daily Mail Online
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Mac on...Prince Harry inviting Sarah Ferguson to his wedding with Meghan Markle
Mac on...Harry inviting Sarah Ferguson to his wedding | Daily Mail Online

[royalanthropologist]

To honor his mother Princess Diana, could you see Prince Harry having his aunt, Baroness Jane Fellowes do a reading at the wedding?

I really think nobody would object to that. Jane and her sister get on very well with BRF. It would be a nice gesture.
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BTW. I find it interesting: Harry physically resembles Charles but personality-wise resembles Diana then William resembles Diana physically but personality-wise tends towards Charles. I can't imagine someone saying no to William save his father and grandmother.

[Duch_Luver_4ever]

I really think nobody would object to that. Jane and her sister get on very well with BRF. It would be a nice gesture.
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BTW. I find it interesting: Harry physically resembles Charles but personality-wise resembles Diana then William resembles Diana physically but personality-wise tends towards Charles. I can't imagine someone saying no to William save his father and grandmother.

Odd to see Harry described as resembling Charles and no one batting an eye, not generating a world of remarks...if only it'd happened 20-30 years earlier  :lol:

[sara8150]

Elton John cancels two tour dates to attend Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding
Elton John cancels two tour dates to attend Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding
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Sarah Ferguson to Attend Prince Harry and Meghan Markle?s Wedding
Sarah Ferguson to Attend Prince Harry, Meghan Markle?s Wedding 

[Kritter]

Christin Zi @PackhamGown

@CamillaTominey said to german TV: During a meeting with the press at KP the KP Team confirmed that the father of #MeghanMarkle will walk his daughter down the aisle. #MeghanandHarry #RoyalWedding

[sara8150]

Will Harry's forgotten step-sister get a wedding invite? Camilla's low-key daughter has a secret bond with the royal and his brother (and her little girl stole the show on Kate and William's big day)
Will Prince Harry's step-sister get a wedding invite? | Daily Mail Online

[Curryong]

I'd say Camilla's children will almost certainly be there. I will be surprised if they aren't. Plus Eliza Lopes (Laura's little girl)  might, just might, get a place as bridesmaid to Meghan if they are going to have a gaggle of littlies that an older girl might have to herd into line. I suppose Eliza must be about ten or eleven years old by now.

I remember on the way back from WA in the carriage she became upset by the noise and crowds and Harry, who was travelling back with the little attendants, produced from his pockets a wiggly worm toy and gave it to her. Eliza refused to be parted from it even when they got back to BP!

[TLLK]

It is strange to think of the little Eliza being old enough to be "in charge" because the photo of her as Kate's bridesmaid on the balcony is the one that is frequently shared by the press. However time has moved on and a series of new little Windsors, Phillips and Tindals would now be of age to be in a wedding party. :)

[Kritter]

Mille Mackintosh is Meghan Markle?s wedding fixer | Daily Mail Online

Her closest family and friends are spread across the US and Canada. So Meghan Markle is turning to an unlikely source to help organise her Windsor wedding.

Prince Harry?s fiancee is making plans with reality TV star Millie Mackintosh, former wife of rapper Professor Green, after the pair became London-based best friends.

According to one royal insider, Miss Mackintosh, 28, has become so invaluable that some are predicting she could be chosen as a bridesmaid.

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Harry 'will invite ex-girlfriends Chelsy Davy & Cressida Bonas to his wedding' expert says | Life | Life & Style | Express.co.uk

PRINCE HARRY and Meghan Markle will marry in May. While some brides ban ex-girlfriends of the groom from their weddings, this expert claims that modern Meghan will allow Harry to invite Chelsy Davy and Cressida Bonas.

Prince Harry, 33, is set to marry Suits actress Meghan Markle, 36, is just a few months.

The couple have been together for over a year and a half, and have been on various public appearances together since they announced their engagement.

Prince Harry has been linked to various women before Meghan, including Love Island Camilla Thurlow, 28, and TV presenter Caroline Flack.

However, his most serious girlfriends are Cressida Bonas, 28, and Chelsy Davy, 32.

[wannable]

Is Millie good news for H&M? Or is there going to be a second article demeaning Millie's envolvement with Meghan?

I have never watched Made in Chelsea or care for reality shows, nor have read any Millie article,  I don't know her.