Sophie Wessex: The Queen's Favourite

heather · December 24, 2007, 01:45:37 AM

HM was very fond of Sarah, Duchess of York, and still is, according to some people. :snob:

Countessa · December 29, 2007, 12:11:09 AM

She's not the Queen's favorite, apparently. Sophie is.

Nighthawk · December 29, 2007, 12:14:34 AM

sarah is an ex daughter in law so that means she's not a part of the other 2 daughter inlaws that the queen can choose from.....lol

Countessa · December 29, 2007, 03:32:23 AM

I think the article means that people close to the Queen believe that of all of the women who have married her sons, Sophie is the one she likes best, obviously relates to and actually enjoys her company. She may think that finally a woman came along who didn't cheat on her son and humiliate him and the RF (Fergie), or fall apart under the strain of her broken down marriage by using her children as weapons and airing the family's dirty laundry in public (Diana). That's all. Whatever faults Sophie may have, HM seems to be a great defender of her daughter-in-law. Again, I think much of the reason HM adores Sophie is because she has made Edward very happy.

heather · December 29, 2007, 04:28:14 AM

She has made Edward manly, no wonder her mother in law is happy ! :Royal:

One can only wonder what HM thought about her oldest son chasing after a married woman, whose husband was godson of HM The Queen Mother.
One can only wonder what HM thought of her son when he was recorded on the tampax tape, and then told the world on television that he never loved his wife, and that his parents were horrid to him, and yes, airing the family's dirty laundry in public, a full year before Diana did the Panorama interview :rolleyes:

leogirl · December 29, 2007, 04:32:39 AM

Well, this comes as no surprise, seeing as the choices are either Sophie or Cams...

heather · December 29, 2007, 04:34:19 AM

HM would sooner chew off her own left foot than choose Camz ! :laugh:

Diedera · December 29, 2007, 04:38:39 AM

..............so, Cam lost that poll too. She really is having a difficult week. :rudolf:

heather · December 29, 2007, 04:53:56 AM

They need to re brand Camilla, or re package her, or whatever it is that they haven't tried before. :laugh:

Or they could just give up and give us all a bit of peace! :teehee:

Varya · December 29, 2007, 10:17:13 AM

Quote from: heather on December 29, 2007, 04:28:14 AM
She has made Edward manly, no wonder her mother in law is happy ! :Royal:

One can only wonder what HM thought about her oldest son chasing after a married woman, whose husband was godson of HM The Queen Mother.
One can only wonder what HM thought of her son when he was recorded on the tampax tape, and then told the world on television that he never loved his wife, and that his parents were horrid to him, and yes, airing the family's dirty laundry in public, a full year before Diana did the Panorama interview :rolleyes:

exactly :thumbsup:

Quote from: Diedera on December 29, 2007, 04:38:39 AM
..............so, Cam lost that poll too. She really is having a difficult week. :rudolf:

:lmao:

Countessa · December 29, 2007, 05:45:43 PM

I'm not sure the Queen even considers Camz a daughter-in-law. I really think she despises the woman for what she thinks she did to her family. At best the British monarchy has 66% approval where as Dutch and Danish monarchies have 80% to 90% approval. C&C are just not popular and could very well end the monarchy. 66% could become 40% and then the republicans would have their way.

sandy · December 29, 2007, 06:35:49 PM

Quote from: Countessa on December 29, 2007, 03:32:23 AM
I think the article means that people close to the Queen believe that of all of the women who have married her sons, Sophie is the one she likes best, obviously relates to and actually enjoys her company. She may think that finally a woman came along who didn't cheat on her son and humiliate him and the RF (Fergie), or fall apart under the strain of her broken down marriage by using her children as weapons and airing the family's dirty laundry in public (Diana). That's all. Whatever faults Sophie may have, HM seems to be a great defender of her daughter-in-law. Again, I think much of the reason HM adores Sophie is because she has made Edward very happy.

What about Charles using his own sons to promote Camilla and as a result erode his own sons' popularity? What about CHarles confessing that he committed adultery and never loved the mother of his sons and his parents "forcing" him to marry Diana and other whinging airing dirty linen in public. And who caused the strain of the broken down marriage: Charles and his mistress of course.

Considering that her choices are Sophie and Camilla it's a no brainer for the Queen

Diedera · December 29, 2007, 06:42:13 PM

Of course she prefers Sophie. I rather imagine it is difficult to warm up to the other one's Reptilian personality. :rolleyes:

heather · December 29, 2007, 07:53:33 PM

Quote from: Countessa on December 29, 2007, 05:45:43 PM
I'm not sure the Queen even considers Camz a daughter-in-law. I really think she despises the woman for what she thinks she did to her family. At best the British monarchy has 66% approval where as Dutch and Danish monarchies have 80% to 90% approval. C&C are just not popular and could very well end the monarchy. 66% could become 40% and then the republicans would have their way.

I am in total agreement Countessa. :thumbsup:

fawbert · December 29, 2007, 11:46:26 PM

I couldn't disagree more. Nonsense, utter nonsense. :shrug:

heather · December 30, 2007, 03:05:03 AM

Would you call it "Daft" Fawbs? :teehee:

Countessa · December 30, 2007, 03:51:52 AM

Quote from: sandy on December 29, 2007, 06:35:49 PM
What about Charles using his own sons to promote Camilla and as a result erode his own sons' popularity? What about CHarles confessing that he committed adultery and never loved the mother of his sons and his parents "forcing" him to marry Diana and other whinging airing dirty linen in public. And who caused the strain of the broken down marriage: Charles and his mistress of course.

Considering that her choices are Sophie and Camilla it's a no brainer for the Queen

I'm not a fan of Charles and Camilla but his wrongs apparently didn't make HM warm and fuzzy toward her late daughter-in-law for her own behavior. What's the big deal? If the Queen favors Sophie then she favors Sophie. What's the offense? Diana wasn't loved by everyone. She wasn't admired by everyone. That's life.

sandy · December 30, 2007, 06:00:21 PM

Charles and Camilla and their circle didn't admire Diana that's for sure. Camilla was counting on Diana not to rock the boat and be a new Princess Alexandra looking the other way. HM kept her head in the sand when it came to her son-she was warned years earlier that Charles was bedding Camilla. I think the Queen Mum's Edwardian upbringing influenced the Queen that while Charles keeping a mistress was wrong the wife shouldn't put up a fuss. In their eyes that was Diana's "crime."

I do think Diana had more admirers than Camilla. And Sophie is more admired also.

fawbert · December 31, 2007, 01:28:11 AM

Quote from: Countessa on December 29, 2007, 05:45:43 PM
I'm not sure the Queen even considers Camz a daughter-in-law. I really think she despises the woman

The Queen doesn't despise anybody. It isn't in her make-up. It was clear in the words she used in Apr 2005 after the wedding of Charles and Camilla that HM was delighted that the thorny situation had been resolved and Charles had finally got the bride of his choice without revolt on the streets.

heather · December 31, 2007, 03:24:45 AM

HM The Queen is a long suffering woman.

Revolt is a very appropriate choice of word there Fawbs. :thumbsup:

Many of us felt revolted, but we stayed home and didn't watch our televisions.

The crowds stayed away in droves. :teehee: and have continued to do so. :D

sandy · December 31, 2007, 06:33:22 PM

Charles actually could have married the "bride of his choice" when she was Camilla Shand. He saw her as mistress material and didn't marry her. He didn't even vet her as a bride of choice back then.

Diana was Charles' bride of choice. Despite Charles' whinging NOBODY forced him to marry Diana. He wanted heirs from a Suitable Girl from an aristocratic family and Diana was his choice. Camilla even helped pick her out.

heather · January 01, 2008, 03:08:07 AM

Charles could have married Camilla, she could have divorced her husband, and Charles could have stepped back from the throne to be with the woman he loved.

But NO, he had to have an heir and a spare, and keep his place in line to the throne.

A young naive girl suited his purpose well, Camilla vetted her, Charles wed her, and the rest is very sad history.

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