The Sussex Family General Chat Part 2

[Kristeh-H]

One comment and one question. While there?s likely many, many Americans who like you had no clue about anything relating to the RF, none of those people were about to marry a British prince. They would have had no need to know any of it. Before I meet a boyfriend?s family, I wanna know it all. I want to know what?s appropriate or inappropriate to bring up and how I should address them (Mrs. So and so or first names); are they more casual or dressy type of people? And that?s just me, a regular American meeting another regular American?s family. I find it hard to believe that a bright woman of nearly 40 didn?t think to ask the many staff members whose job it is to help, her boyfriend the prince, or even Google about this information before meeting the Queen of England. But hey, maybe I?m overestimating her.

The question: how is it that Harry was able to have a therapist on speed dial but Meghan was supposedly denied access to one?

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[HistoryGirl2]

You can never control what other people think or say or do, so you have to concentrate on how you personally act and react.  Peace and happiness can really only be found within one's own self.

Truer words have never been spoken or written lol

[TLLK]

Great posts, everyone!  I think everyone is making some valid points and bringing up interesting ideas.

No, I don't think Harry is happy but I think that is because he is so troubled within himself.  You can never control what other people think or say or do, so you have to concentrate on how you personally act and react.  Peace and happiness can really only be found within one's own self.  Harry doesn't seem to have that and unfortunately, his therapy doesn't seem to have helped him so far.  I'm not sure if that's because his therapists aren't giving him good advice, or if Harry just doesn't want to hear what they're saying--that he's not willing to work on his attitude and actions that might ultimately help him to be more at peace with life.

I absolutely agree. Unfortunately I have to agree that based upon Prince Harry's own words and actions via several interviews over the years, the  Harry and Meghan docuseries and his revelations in Finding Freedom (We know they collaborated with the authors) and  Spare, I don't believe that he currently has  personal happiness in all aspects of his life. He's spending far too much time and energy trying blame others for his own actions rather than take responsibility. There appears to have been more than one therapist working with Harry but I have to unfortunately agree again, that either he's unwilling to work on himself to "change the tape" or he just continues search for one that fits the narrative that he has.

I sincerely hope that one day that he will find that inner peace and happiness because for all of his proclamations that he is happy, it's clear to me that he is not. 

[HistoryGirl2]

^ Boy is it tough to find yourself a good therapist. I can only imagine how difficult it is for a celebrity to find one. That would have to be someone who wouldn?t fall into the trap of becoming a ?yes? man who would agree with anything a client said just so they?d be well liked by their famous client or lose their services if they got angry that the therapist wasn?t affirming them.

But at the end of the day, the work has to be done by the individual. A therapist is good for insight, but you have to understand that nugget of truth that Kristeh-H mentioned. You cannot control anything in life except your actions and reactions. Everything else is outside of your control and the sooner you come to accept that, the easier it is to go through life.

And it?s great to set boundaries and learn to spot behaviors in others that are not acceptable to you, but most importantly, you have to be introspective about your own actions and how you too can be culpable in a situation breaking down or how you can be perceived by others.

[Nightowl]

thiis is waht you said -- "He could at some point get himself in serious trouble like being shipped back to the UK,,"

That seems to indicate that you think he could be shipped back to the UK,

Okay here, *COULD* does not mean he is being shipped anywhere, could is like *Maybe* he could be shipped.  Harry opened his mouth and all this is on HIM period.  Bragging how what...big he is by taking drugs, how tough he is, how intelligent he is....I can guarantee you that people that read and heard him in TV are saying that an  idiot he is.....Good Grief Harry is totally out of control ......all my friends and co-workers in law and drug counseling are sick with what he is doing in promoting this drug use.....this is just evil to the heart of those that are helping drug addicts and the  law enforcement.  What ever happens to Harry is on Harry and from what so many are saying and have read and heard from his own mouth is not good.....Okay let him do all the drugs he wants and watch what happens.....I saw a young man die in front of me by swallowing coke so that he would not be caught by the cops, he was a friend of someone I know  very well.  This drug use started long before Meghan and from the looks of it, she is letting him continue.   

[Amabel2]

He is not going to be shipped anywhere unless he starts dealing in hard drugs.  AFAIK, Marijuana is now legal in many states in the US and with most drugs, having a small amount for personal use is winked at  and penalties are reserved for people who are dealing.

[HistoryGirl2]

^Agreed. He is breaking no law, certainly not in the state of California.

[TLLK]

^Agreed. He is breaking no law, certainly not in the state of California.

As long as he's over 21 years of age, possessing only up to 1 oz or 28.5 g, doesn't sell to anyone under21, drive or ride a bicycle under the influence, if passenger the pot must be in a sealed container, smoking/eating or vaping canabis in public, using it on Federal Govt. land etc...It's more or less the same laws as for alcohol consumption.

[Nightowl]

He is not going to be shipped anywhere unless he starts dealing in hard drugs.  AFAIK, Marijuana is now legal in many states in the US and with most drugs, having a small amount for personal use is winked at  and penalties are reserved for people who are dealing.

Harry has admitted to using hard drugs,more than just POT and that is just what it is, POT and that came from Harry, his mouth, his words.  Putting the issue just on POT does not take away what else he is doing.  Beam me up Scotty for there is no intelligence left on earth......that is something my sister used to say on another site and to me also.

[Nightowl]

Personally for me, I think this legalization of POT is so damn wrong, what next to be legal..how about coke or LSD...why not legal all the drugs in the world so that everyone can be as high as they want, I am so against DRUGS that maim and kill and the money men who sell it make zillions laughing all the way to the bank while people  die...I am shocked here at the attitude of acceptance of drugs be they POT or anything else, be they legal or not, be they a tiny amount or a shopping bag full....I do know one thing for sure, one drug leads to another.

Harry is a *Druggie* out of his own mouth and boy is he going to suffer the consequences that I firmly believe in.

[Amabel2]

YOu may be against drugs, but at present, Harry does not seem to be breaking any laws, in using marijuana and alcohol.  One drug does NOT lead to another, it may not be doing him much good but he's not as far as I can see or other people, breaking any laws....

[Amabel2]

Harry has admitted to using hard drugs,more than just POT and that is just what it is, POT and that came from Harry, his mouth, his words.  Putting the issue just on POT does not take away what else he is doing.  Beam me up Scotty for there is no intelligence left on earth......that is something my sister used to say on another site and to me also.

I dont know the law in the US, but even wiht harder drugs, if it is for personal use, and people are not dealing, I think that the penalties are minor. 

[HistoryGirl2]

^ Certainly for the rich and privileged. Harry?s health is really up to him. His previous alcohol intake worries me more than his drug intake, to be honest. But I?m not sure that I see any sign that he?s out of control with his drug or alcohol intake currently. Maybe he is, but it doesn?t sound like it. I?ve never done any drugs, but I know people that have. Some became drug addicts, but the vast majority didn?t.

It?s definitely sad when people do. But it?s also important to remember that the biggest drug crisis in the US recently came from companies that were selling drugs that were perfectly legal and were being prescribed by doctors.

[Amabel2]

I dont think it is good for H to do drugs, as he is clealry suffering from the effects of past drug use.  But its up to him. He's not breaking any laws, and he's not likely to be deported or lose his childen etc.  that's just silly. but I think he did a lot of drugs in the past and has not stopped using alcohol and weed at least... and its adding to his paranoia, and his other mental problems.  But it is his call.

[Kristeh-H]

I dont know the law in the US, but even wiht harder drugs, if it is for personal use, and people are not dealing, I think that the penalties are minor.

I'd have to say that it depends a lot on who you are and how much money you have.  Yes, I'm a bit cynical.   :(

[Amabel2]

well obviously, but Harry is rich and has good lawyers.  He is not going to get in trouble over using drugs on a personal basis.  Generally, legal systems focus on dealers.

[Kristeh-H]

Oh yes, Harry would never get into legal trouble over the drugs.  The only legal problem might be if he and Meghan ever did divorce (and I'm not saying they will) and there custody issues over the children.  Meghan might have a strong hand there.  But I rather doubt that situation would arise. 

Now, the effect of drugs on his mental and physical health are another matter.  I'm not at all convinced that these drugs are helpful, and Harry is not a great poster boy for making that case.

[TLLK]

^^^ @Kristeh-H -Yes if the couple were to divorce, the issue of his past and possible current drug use could be an issue.

[Princess Cassandra]

Oh yes, Harry would never get into legal trouble over the drugs.  The only legal problem might be if he and Meghan ever did divorce (and I'm not saying they will) and there custody issues over the children.  Meghan might have a strong hand there.  But I rather doubt that situation would arise. 

Now, the effect of drugs on his mental and physical health are another matter.  I'm not at all convinced that these drugs are helpful, and Harry is not a great poster boy for making that case.

The other concern regarding drugs is whether or not being a user at the time children are conceived could affect them.

[changemhysoul]

World Central Kitchen are doing a cookbook, there are a lot of notable people who contributed a recipe including Meghan. The book will be available on Sept. 12th. 

https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status/1634650371640492034

Meghan entered her Lemon Olive Oil Cake.

She also baked this cake during a during Woman's History Month in 2021 in which Archewell worked with WCK to provide meals and support in Chicago.

[Curryong]

World Central Kitchen are doing a cookbook, there are a lot of notable people who contributed a recipe including Meghan. The book will be available on Sept. 12th. 

https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status/1634650371640492034

Meghan entered her Lemon Olive Oil Cake.

She also baked this cake during a during Woman's History Month in 2021 in which Archewell worked with WCK to provide meals and support in Chicago.

That?s an absolutely fantastic way of raising money for a good cause as the Grenfell ladies and Meghan have shown before. And great that Meghan, an enthusiastic foodie, is contributing to WCK in this way. The Sussexes have been solid supporters of this organisation.

[TLLK]

Great news!

[HistoryGirl2]

World Central Kitchen at it again. Such a wonderful organization that never ceases to come up with new ways to help feed people.

[TLLK]

Questions about Prince Harry's feelings towards his brother that were outlined in Spare have been moved to this thread linked below.

Books written about and by the Sussexes Part 4.

[Amabel2]

Honestly, I?d forgotten all about them and assumed that after Harry?s comments recent comments about the monarchy, it wouldn?t be that big of a deal. I continue to try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they?re not being self-serving and continue to be disappointed each and every time.

Well I see what you mean I have not had a high opinion of Harry for some years now, and it slid downwards from the time he married Meghan but even so, every time they come out in public, they manage to do something that surprises me, and makes me think "I know they are not up to much but i didn't think they were as bad as this.

I think that from what I've seen A LOT of poeple were rather shocked by SPARE.  it really did show Harry up as such a contradictory crazy mess, and Meghan seemed to disappear for the weeks that it was being publicised, as if she was keeping her distance for the time being..
and then they get lLilibet christened and tell us that now she's a Princess.  After 3 years of claiming that he didn't want to be a royal, that he didn't want to be part of that insittution and that he was now living in the US which is a republic.