The Sussex Family General Chat Part 2

[HistoryGirl2]

I cringe when I read stuff like this. A private plane from LA to Santa Barbara for a couple hours visit? I guess flying first class just doesn?t cut it anymore. I can maybe understand why someone like the President or the King *might* need to do this due to security concerns, but seriously? You?re Tyler Perry. Is taking a commercial flight really that much of a hassle? It?s entirely their prerogative to do so, but I find it appalling in terms of helping our planet.

[changemhysoul]

Actor Tyler Perry's plane landed in Santa Barbara and then  he went to visit the Sussex family for a couple of hours. He later returned to his home in Atlanta,GA.

Tyler Perry visits Harry and Meghan at ?12m California mansion after Coronation RSVP | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Happy to see that Tyler got in a visit with his God-daughter and everyone.

They said he changed into a suit and if true, I hope we get to see some pictures of Lili with her godfather.

[Curryong]

I cringe when I read stuff like this. A private plane from LA to Santa Barbara for a couple hours visit? I guess flying first class just doesn?t cut it anymore. I can maybe understand why someone like the President or the King *might* need to do this due to security concerns, but seriously? You?re Tyler Perry. Is taking a commercial flight really that much of a hassle? It?s entirely their prerogative to do so, but I find it appalling in terms of helping our planet.

Perry was on his way to his home in Georgia though, which would have made it two separate flights, one Santa Barbara from LA, then one from Santa Barbara to Atlanta etc.  Celebs often fly by private plane, and I agree, doesn?t help the planet, but not many of them do commercial flights simply because they get hassled by members of the public wanting autographs, wanting to talk about their latest picture, latest concert, record etc. Both Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles have been touring Aus, both are quite down to earth, neither flew commercial.

[FanDianaFancy]

Very few celebs/ entertainers these days fly commercial first class. That is for poor people, lol.
Only the celeb/ entertainer ones who do not fly private jet are the ones who cannot afford and do not have the hook up all of the time.

Flying commercial first class and buying a a section, nope.
They would never see hounding public in first class .

Bill Mahr  had a good segment on his show about this . It was about3 weeks ago. He gladly admitted, he only flies private  . Yes he bought a Tesla, solar panels on home, but he will not compromise nor can he for logistics on using a private plane.

Tyler, Oprah, Sussex duo, Kardashians all fly private jet. Kardashians , Oprah, Tyler and others own their planes.
Environment?.who cares.
Protecting the environment and doing kinds of crazy things is only for  the little people preached to by the multimillionaires worths hundreds of millions  and billionaires.


The environment and saving the planet was big in the news when I was a child ?..in the 1970s. 1970s. That?s right. 1970s.

Anyway, Sussex scored big with Tyler and Oprah helping push RACIST BRF.

BTW, this weekend, Chris Rock had a live show on Netflix.His them was selective  memory.
He went in on Megan and the RACIST BRF AND RACIST COUNTRY OF THE UK. After show, some other comics talked about theRACIST BRF.

Meg n Henr did a super, fantastic, wonderful,lifelong, worldwide job on calling THE BRF RACIST AND THE TUK TOO.

[Curryong]

Air transport of the British royal family and government - Wikipedia

The BRF have flown on private planes for a very very long time, so don?t let?s pretend that only celebs do it.

The first two Kings Flight aircraft were bought by the RF in 1928, yes that?s right, 1928, and the then Prince of Wales, the future Duke of Windsor utilised them fully for both private trips and engagements until he abdicated as King.

The senior royals today have all also used the royal helicopter, and not just for transportation between engagements either. Andy and his daughter Beatrice used the helicopter to get to golf courses etc.

Charles has constantly used private planes in the past (including sending an empty plane back to Highgrove to collect forgotten painting materials on one occasion) as has Camilla, and yes, the Wessexes, and William and Kate and Harry, sometimes on trips to Europe, like the Wessexes when going to Switzerland to ski.

So they?re all guilty of it.

[FanDianaFancy]

It truly would be silly for Sussex to attend KC.
Hypocrites.
The BRF is RACIST as Sussex claimed , but did not actually say in so many words, but did adhere, led others TO SAY SO.
Netflix, Megsy said and demo started hi silly curtsying is and was QEII  and how it reminded her of the Tudor dinner theatre thingy over here that people go to all,Tudor dressed up and stuff.

pleased to meet you ma?am. Isn?t that Megs so brilliant, cute, and perfect, perfect, perfect.

For Sussex to go there ehhh,curtsytoKC, do do silly.
Why go.

[FanDianaFancy]

Just to put out there, I would not expect Oprah ,  Tyler and other billionaires to fly fist class commercial. It is silly.

Kardashians never talk about save the planet.

KC and working senior members  on vacay or official  business to fly commercial would be silly and to fly on official , govt business would be dangerous for the other passengers. You would asking for a terriosts to take  down  the  civilian, commercial plane.

As for darling, brilliant, sweet , woke, perfect, perfect perfectMegsy and her comical sidekick, Henny, it would be stupid to No borrow aTyler, Elton, Oprah?s, someone?s private plane.

[Curryong]

The only person who calls Meghan and Harry all those names and descriptions is yourself, on this forum. I?ve never heard any Sussex fans call Meghan perfect, darling etc in such an extravagant fashion online or others insult Harry in such a way either. Why stoop to do that here?

[HistoryGirl2]

Perry was on his way to his home in Georgia though, which would have made it two separate flights, one Santa Barbara from LA, then one from Santa Barbara to Atlanta etc.  Celebs often fly by private plane, and I agree, doesn?t help the planet, but not many of them do commercial flights simply because they get hassled by members of the public wanting autographs, wanting to talk about their latest picture, latest concert, record etc. Both Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles have been touring Aus, both are quite down to earth, neither flew commercial.

100% this is a problem with many, many wealthy people. Again, they can do whatever they want to, but I personally find it to be pretty alarming that the discomfort of maybe a few minutes is being put above the well-being of the planet. This is one of a number of issues where the comforts of the wealthy are put before the health of the Earth, and it?s done all the time.

[changemhysoul]

Meghan and Harry never called the family racist. They said someone had concerns about skin color and I've seen that spun in way whoever said it had been worried about what might happen to Archie, how people would be racist towards him.

I think it was an ignorant comment but not-uncommon in non royal families. It comes up more often than people would like to admit. It's also a very old, aristo thing. That being said, it was the British media that ran with calling them racist, putting the words in Harry and Meghan's mouth as they always do, see privacy. That being said, it's debatable and up to how someone takes it.

Honestly, I don't think that would've been said, if the people who said it actually took reactions to heart and learned When the news came out, at first it was sort of denied and then the stories started to spin. Then stories came out about how no, it happened because of staff miscommunication, it was a joke, it wasn't that serious, then Robert Jobson in his book, said that he knew who said it but Harry shouldn't have taken it so seriously. So, it was admitted that comment was said but it wasn't suppose to be taken seriously and it was unfair.

If you believe him and it wouldn't take Harry and Meghan to point to instances of racism within the Royal Family, often put off as gafs, the very foundation and etc.

Still, Harry and Meghan have no spoken about the nasty, dehumanizing, mocking and derogatory ways that Harry and Meghan, especially Meghan have been spoken about in on forums, social media, tv media, print and etc. Even before them stepping away, when Meghan was doing the 'proper' thing and being silent. Before The Oprah interview and etc. She's never referred to a member of the royal family in the mocking and down putting way in, like saying 'Megsy and Henny'.

I will disagree, that fans of Harry and Meghan refer to them with those descriptions in a non-mocking way, especially on social media. But it happens for other members of the Royal Family or any celebrity or famous person. Often put on pedestals and fawned over as if they're perfect. It's the nature of social media, forums or any place people come together.

It's not everybody but it happens and most of the time, those voices are the loudest.

As for the flying, yes it's bad for the environment and they could do better any many ways (any famous person) but I'm not going to be begrudge them because there lives are more important. There are some famous people that don't get a strong reaction and are able to travel pretty easily. There are those who are at risk of attack because of people who want to hurt them or have super over-zealous fans.

I pour more of my attention to the people who are really killing the environment: oil companies, people in government who cut cost to pocket more money, building pipe-lines on indigenous land and destroying communities and the like. The train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio has done more damage to the earth more than Tyler Perry imo.

[TLLK]

Meghan and Harry never called the family racist. They said someone had concerns about skin color and I've seen that spun in way whoever said it had been worried about what might happen to Archie, how people would be racist towards him.

I think it was an ignorant comment but not-uncommon in non royal families. It comes up more often than people would like to admit. It's also a very old, aristo thing. That being said, it was the British media that ran with calling them racist, putting the words in Harry and Meghan's mouth as they always do, see privacy. That being said, it's debatable and up to how someone takes it.

Honestly, I don't think that would've been said, if the people who said it actually took reactions to heart and learned When the news came out, at first it was sort of denied and then the stories started to spin. Then stories came out about how no, it happened because of staff miscommunication, it was a joke, it wasn't that serious, then Robert Jobson in his book, said that he knew who said it but Harry shouldn't have taken it so seriously. So, it was admitted that comment was said but it wasn't suppose to be taken seriously and it was unfair.

If you believe him and it wouldn't take Harry and Meghan to point to instances of racism within the Royal Family, often put off as gafs, the very foundation and etc.

Still, Harry and Meghan have no spoken about the nasty, dehumanizing, mocking and derogatory ways that Harry and Meghan, especially Meghan have been spoken about in on forums, social media, tv media, print and etc. Even before them stepping away, when Meghan was doing the 'proper' thing and being silent. Before The Oprah interview and etc. She's never referred to a member of the royal family in the mocking and down putting way in, like saying 'Megsy and Henny'.

I will disagree, that fans of Harry and Meghan refer to them with those descriptions in a non-mocking way, especially on social media. But it happens for other members of the Royal Family or any celebrity or famous person. Often put on pedestals and fawned over as if they're perfect. It's the nature of social media, forums or any place people come together.

It's not everybody but it happens and most of the time, those voices are the loudest.

As for the flying, yes it's bad for the environment and they could do better any many ways (any famous person) but I'm not going to be begrudge them because there lives are more important. There are some famous people that don't get a strong reaction and are able to travel pretty easily. There are those who are at risk of attack because of people who want to hurt them or have super over-zealous fans.

I pour more of my attention to the people who are really killing the environment: oil companies, people in government who cut cost to pocket more money, building pipe-lines on indigenous land and destroying communities and the like. The train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio has done more damage to the earth more than Tyler Perry imo.

I have to respectfully disagree that "ignorant comments" or  inquiring about skin color or any physical traits of an unborn child is "a very old astro thing." In my nearly sixty years on this planet, I've heard quite a number of people from a very wide variety of socio-economic, racial/ethnic, and education levels make inquiries and predictions regarding which family member an unborn child will resemble.

Now as to the Sussexes' comments during the interview with Oprah Winfrey and afterwards, neither have shared exactly what was said nor have they stated which person made it. From what I can tell, they don't plan to do so any time soon if ever.
However while the Sussexes never used the term "racist," I do believe that based upon the conversation, the tone of voice and the facial expressions made, that the Sussexes wished to give the impression that someone in the family was making a negative remark towards their unborn child and that it had to do with his/her racial ancestry. If they had wanted to clear up this impression, they certainly had the time to do so before January 2023.

[wannable]

Prince Harry says psychedelics are fundamental part of his life

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Prince Harry: Psychedelics are 'fundamental' part of life

Are his children safe ?

[FanDianaFancy]

Prince Harry Says He Had So Much to Learn About Systemic Racism


Little Boy Faulteroy says here , his words, about how  his eyes are open and he sees the past of systemic racism he had and within the institution ofBRF.   No. I am not directly quoting him. He and Megsy hinted, alluded, pushed with slightly but really suggesting, instigating THE UK AND BRF ARE RACIST.

:lol:
The Duke of Sussex, 38, spoke about his personal growth in this week's exclusive PEOPLE cover story as his memoir Spare hits bookshelves. Harry reflected on how his eyes were opened to racism in the media, royal institution and world at large after his relationship with his wife, who is biracial, began six years ago.

"My relationship with Meghan has opened my eyes to so much I fear I otherwise would have never fully understood. When we recognize bias within ourselves or others ? we have a choice. Be part of the problem through inaction or part of the solution through change," Prince Harry tells PEOPLE.

"We live in a world with systemic racism, and none of us are immune from the effects of that. I am someone who has long benefited from my place in society," he says. "I understand that much better today than I once did. I had so much to learn and, equally, unlearn. It's not a simple process, but it's a fulfilling one. I'm a better husband, father and human because of it. I feel more grounded and connected."

[FanDianaFancy]

Prince Harry says psychedelics are fundamental part of his life

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Prince Harry: Psychedelics are 'fundamental' part of life

Are his children safe ?

Yes they are safe, lol.  What a dummy?.him. Dumb thing of him to say  and to do. Is he stupid or crazy  or both?
I think both.

[FanDianaFancy]

?Harry & Meghan? Has One Perfect Moment That Will Forever Change How You Feel About Prince William | Decider

Direct quotes directly from their own lips from their reality tv show, their truth is the truth and only the truth because everyone else lies . Ok

The story that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle present is one of true love foiled by scheming, lying, unscrupulous, and racist parties. Some of the villains come from within their own families, while the majority of boogeymen hide behind a long lens camera.

[Kristeh-H]

Now as to the Sussexes' comments during the interview with Oprah Winfrey and afterwards, neither have shared exactly what was said nor have they stated which person made it. From what I can tell, they don't plan to do so any time soon if ever.
However while the Sussexes never used the term "racist," I do believe that based upon the conversation, the tone of voice and the facial expressions made, that the Sussexes wished to give the impression that someone in the family was making a negative remark towards their unborn child and that it had to do with his/her racial ancestry. If they had wanted to clear up this impression, they certainly had the time to do so before January 2023.

Totally agree with TLLK here.  While Harry and Meghan may not have spoken the word 'racist', they certainly implied it and when the press was calling the family racist, Harry and Meghan kept their mouths shut for almost 2 years.  I wish Tom Bradby had pressed him more on that. 

[Nightowl]

After all that Harry and Meghan have said and done there is just no words left to describe this couple left in any decent language.  Is Harry dangerous, that you better believe with all the crap out of his mouth about drugs and believe me I know first hand all about those drugs having spent a lifetime working with young adults who got hooked on them......what Harry is doing is promoting the use of these dangerous drugs as a way of fixing your life.....drugs KILL period!  Not only is Harry putting himself in danger of dying from an OD but his wife and children are in danger of these drugs also even by the drugs being in their home as I would think since Harry says they are a fundamental part of his life.   He is an adult and dad and brother can not do a darn thing to help him and all a person can do is let him hit bottom and hope to heaven he is alive when he does.  This is NO DAMN GAME, this is LIFE, one time around and you mess with it in this way, your DEAD and there is NO coming back either. 

Please don't ever support any drug use ever.....I lost to many people to drugs and I know for sure what they can do to a person.

[TLLK]

Perry was on his way to his home in Georgia though, which would have made it two separate flights, one Santa Barbara from LA, then one from Santa Barbara to Atlanta etc.  Celebs often fly by private plane, and I agree, doesn?t help the planet, but not many of them do commercial flights simply because they get hassled by members of the public wanting autographs, wanting to talk about their latest picture, latest concert, record etc. Both Ed Sheeran and Harry Styles have been touring Aus, both are quite down to earth, neither flew commercial.

Honestly I believe it's more to do with not having to deal with the hassles of flying in the 21st century.


You certainly have more control over your schedule, avoid baggage fees, enjoy more leg room,   a better selection of snacks and beverages all while not having to fly with strangers who try to take up more space on the armrest.

[TLLK]

It's time we return to the topic of the Sussex Family's general chat. The discussion of royal transportation can continue in this new thread to be found in our Modern Monarchies board.

Royal Transportation- Coaches, Planes, Trains, Automobiles, etc..

[wannable]

After all that Harry and Meghan have said and done there is just no words left to describe this couple left in any decent language.  Is Harry dangerous, that you better believe with all the crap out of his mouth about drugs and believe me I know first hand all about those drugs having spent a lifetime working with young adults who got hooked on them......what Harry is doing is promoting the use of these dangerous drugs as a way of fixing your life.....drugs KILL period!  Not only is Harry putting himself in danger of dying from an OD but his wife and children are in danger of these drugs also even by the drugs being in their home as I would think since Harry says they are a fundamental part of his life.   He is an adult and dad and brother can not do a darn thing to help him and all a person can do is let him hit bottom and hope to heaven he is alive when he does.  This is NO DAMN GAME, this is LIFE, one time around and you mess with it in this way, your DEAD and there is NO coming back either. 

Please don't ever support any drug use ever.....I lost to many people to drugs and I know for sure what they can do to a person.

Thanks for sharing the human side of drug addiction. 

I was thinking about the  - My question about 'are the children safe' is the universal legal aspect, because he is a Prince, I expect a blind eye, no actions taken, but for the rest of the planet, the fact of publicly stating he is dependant of an illegal drugs, legally his children would be taken into custody by social services to solve who can/may keep the children. The route/rules for social services is very clear and transparent, starts with the spouse, if not eligible, grandparents, uncles and aunts and so on. 

Either way, IF Meghan ever divorces him, she automatically will have the upper hand with Harry's drug intake admission. The people in uniform will do a drug test to both though, it is a requirement in social services to custody in any circumstances be it a demand of divorce friendly or otherwise - both loose cannons - speak too much or public knowledge of mad parent or parents.

[TLLK]

After all that Harry and Meghan have said and done there is just no words left to describe this couple left in any decent language.  Is Harry dangerous, that you better believe with all the crap out of his mouth about drugs and believe me I know first hand all about those drugs having spent a lifetime working with young adults who got hooked on them......what Harry is doing is promoting the use of these dangerous drugs as a way of fixing your life.....drugs KILL period!  Not only is Harry putting himself in danger of dying from an OD but his wife and children are in danger of these drugs also even by the drugs being in their home as I would think since Harry says they are a fundamental part of his life.   He is an adult and dad and brother can not do a darn thing to help him and all a person can do is let him hit bottom and hope to heaven he is alive when he does.  This is NO DAMN GAME, this is LIFE, one time around and you mess with it in this way, your DEAD and there is NO coming back either. 

Please don't ever support any drug use ever.....I lost to many people to drugs and I know for sure what they can do to a person.

@Nightowl - I'm very sorry that you've had this experience of losing people you care about to drugs.

[wannable]

Harry has done everything for an intervention, the more compassionate uniforms would call it a 'cry for help', the practical follow the rules uniforms would make it a move like 'another day in the office'.  This is an ETA clarification of my reference about being a prince and the blind eye.

[changemhysoul]

I'm sure the kids are safe.

Harry isn't out here going lines of coke off the bathroom floor of some ritzy hotel. He's doing supervised  psychedelics or whatever his treatment plan is with his doctors. It's not for everyone, he isn't running into schools and handing of bags of 'candy'. It's something most people wouldn't even be able to afford. There are some people who find help it and doctors who approve with in reason. It's up to people to make personal plans for themselves, as stated by Harry. It isn't for everybody and that's okay, it's works for him.

Just because Harry is speaking how people want, how they see fit and etc, doesn't mean he needs intervention. Sure, it's fine to not like what he's doing or how he's doing it but he's not doing anything that is a cry for help. It's just not liked that the fact that he's happy now and he's not playing the royal game of allowing the media, courtiers and family members to use his pain or his wife's pain for fun or for clicks.

He hasn't shown any actually dangerous or radial behaviors. As I said before, he's never talked about his family in the humanizing or nasty way he's talked about on forums like these, in the media or on social media. Just today or yesterday, Jeremy someone said he should throw his wife down a well. Regular threats of violence and etc shouldn't be acceptable no matter what she said because what Meghan has ever said about the family or her experience doesn't warrant that. (And to be clear, threats, violence against her and the dehumanizing of Meghan came before she ever opened her mouth, so it's not a "it's what she deserves because she's spoken up.")

It is completely okay not like how they're doing what they're doing but it's not to the extreme of he needs intervention or it's a cry for help. Honestly, that type of thinking is what's dangerous.

[TLLK]

 While I am certainly not in contact with the Sussexes and their children, I personally don't believe that at this time there is any cause for concern about the Sussex children due to Prince Harry's  recent revelations. (Please note that I am a mandated reporter. )

However be assured that if there was any suspicion of child neglect or concerns over a child's safety, that it just takes a report  from one of their children's teachers, nannies or health care providers who are by law mandated reporters to instigate  a visit from Child Protective Services. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sussexes had a private conversation with their children's teachers about his revelations of drug use in Spare and recent interviews as it is now public news.

Posting this information more as a board message as it might be useful for future reference.

Who are mandated reporters in California?

Training | Child Abuse Mandated Reporter Training

Child Abuse Identification & Reporting Guidelines - Child Abuse Prevention Training and Resources (CA Dept of Education)

[Ayse]

There is a new article about them in the Guardian.

How is brand Harry and Meghan faring in the US? News just in: not good | Arwa Mahdawi | The Guardian

? I tell you what?s really boring: the neverending pity-me-please performance the two are foisting upon us. As a staunch anti-royalist I was sympathetic to the couple to begin with ? my enemy?s enemy is my friend and all that ? but the constant oversharing has jumped the shark. Particularly since it becomes more obvious by the day that their grievances are less to do with systemic inequality and more to do with feeling they didn?t get a big enough slice of the born-with-privilege pie. I mean, come on, you can?t go around complaining about how backwards the royals are while insisting that we plebs refer to you as Duke and Duchess. You want some credibility? Give up your stupid titles?