The Sussexes and Family General chat

[changemhysoul]

Well, he didn't give an actual apology. He tried to play it off.

He also didn't give the so called apology to the actual person he used violence words against, but her husband. Who isn't named Meghan. So it was a non-apology. He said he did it in a rush (meaning the article) but this wasn't the first nasty thing he wrote, so it's not real. To accept an apology, you have to actually think the people giving it, mean it. Not even I believe Clarkson so I doubt they would or a lot of people (not saying all) would either.

I don't have much to say about the Summit other than, it's more likely that it came from the Royals. That's who Roya bats for. There's no confirmation that it came from the Sussex's. Harry saying he wanted to talk, has already come from his mouth without the royal reporter playing middle man. She can keep her faith and take it back to the "palace sources" "royal insiders" "senior aides" and "friends of the royals"

In the article that came out, it talks about speaking to Harry alone and then bringing the wives in. Harry has made it clear that he found it appalling that they'd have the first summit without Meghan and it was her life and future being talked about. So, when another article is floated that says the summit will include Harry and Meghan as equal partners and Meghan an after-thought, because it's her life as well. That's the article I'll believe.

[wannable]

The 3 are nasty  :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.


There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.

[Curryong]

The 3 are nasty  :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.


There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.

That?s your opinion I guess. Any viable proof, because I very much doubt it myself for several reasons? One of them being that neither The Times nor Royah are friends of the Sussexes. At all. So why they would say the couple are anxious for a Summit with the King, Heaven only Knows. I doubt Harry has spoken to this RR for three years or more.  This particular newspaper has better contacts at BP than most and almost invariably follows the Palace line re anything Sussex.

[wannable]

That would be so perfect.

No summit and each to their own.

[Curryong]

That would be so perfect.

No summit and each to their own.

And what if there are ideas about a summit going around King Charles?s brain (for whatever reason?) Charles sometimes doesn?t listen to the Palace Pooh Bahs, just goes ahead and does his own thing as he did with Camilla?s rehabilitation by Bollard. And that?s maybe that?s why the Times has caught a whiff of something brewing from Palace lackeys.

[wannable]

It is fake as I said, but I?ll bite, lawyers first conditioning and covering all angles and beyond, like a NDA forever.

Harry gets angry, more disgraceful behavior affecting himself.

[Nightowl]

The 3 are nasty  :sarcastic: so they can be angry gaslight or hug their drama bad behavior.


There are some RR giving out the little window of faith article for the couple. The summit idea is Sussexes.

Of course the summit idea is from the Sussex's..who else has anything to gain but only them. They have LIED continuously from one LIE to the next LIE, they threaten, they backtrack their own lies, they swear up and down they did not leak anything yet their own reality show, Harry's book is all leaks given he says it is his *truth*.  His so called Truth is a LIE all the way around it.  They are desperate for a response from the royal family, so that they can still be seen as royals, people might have a title like a Duke or Prince, yet that does not make them royals for you have to actually be in the family. Well news break, Harry and Meghan RAN away from the royal family, attacked the royal family, dish dirt on the royal family in front of the entire world (why don't their fans see that, oh, maybe they are blind), and then Harry had the nerve to drag his brother's children into his hell...children of all things, that is called *desperation* on Harry's part and it is not working.  Attacking his brother's children is one way to never have a reconciliation with his brother.  Harry is so desperate at this stage he is pitiful and showing how weak he really is.  I don't hate Harry, I pity the little boy playing at being a decent man which he is not. Oh karma is so going after both of them one day! 

[wannable]

I'll bite further, IMO based on historical facts and speculation (from Social Media personalities; historians, political journalists, long time RR's) of similarity IF Charles enters a ''summit'' with the duo, Rishi Sunak incoming (Winston Churchill) will intervene.  Charles cannot put his son over the 'Constitutional Monarchy' of the United Kingdom, Charles has to think not only about his Kingship but that of William, because any decision that is 'long term' will affect the heir's 'kingdom' too. As I said, the Constitutional Monarchy IS part and parcel of the UK Government.

That is why in the last couple of years of HMQEII, she involved both Charles and William in certain aspects and points that have long term effect/affect that concerns the 'Constitutional Monarchy'. 

So after making a 'quick' reference of the Constitutional Monarchy, IF it comes to a ''Sussex Summit'' scenario, the speculation is William is the sound board of Charles 'weakness' and 'feelings of guilt' with Harry, the latter is malignant narcissist using the weakness of his father. The speculation is William said the 'Constitutional Monarchy lawyers' will draw the fake summit if there's ever one, note I didn't say BRF Lawyers, but Constitutional Monarchy Lawyers. After all, William will have to deal with his brother, even after the passing away of Charles.  Charles cannot have any summit without William.  Both have to agree the ''terms''. Number 10 is with William.  Charles cannot place the Constitutional Monarchy in ridicule, mockery worldwide. 

This is all IF Charles, there are equal number of RR, political journalists who say Charles will place the Monarchy (DUTY) above all.

Charles many moons ago knows that he cannot be giving more 'fuel' to his son to blabber to the mass media.

[changemhysoul]

OTHERS TAKE MANDELA?S NAME IN VAIN, NOT HARRY AND MEGHAN
I applaud the work the royal couple does inspired by my grandfather. I abhor those who exploit his legacy for personal gain.

Others Take Mandela?s Name in Vain, Not Harry & Meghan - The Atlantic

[Princess Cassandra]

I'll bite further, IMO based on historical facts and speculation (from Social Media personalities; historians, political journalists, long time RR's) of similarity IF Charles enters a ''summit'' with the duo, Rishi Sunak incoming (Winston Churchill) will intervene.  Charles cannot put his son over the 'Constitutional Monarchy' of the United Kingdom, Charles has to think not only about his Kingship but that of William, because any decision that is 'long term' will affect the heir's 'kingdom' too. As I said, the Constitutional Monarchy IS part and parcel of the UK Government.

That is why in the last couple of years of HMQEII, she involved both Charles and William in certain aspects and points that have long term effect/affect that concerns the 'Constitutional Monarchy'. 

So after making a 'quick' reference of the Constitutional Monarchy, IF it comes to a ''Sussex Summit'' scenario, the speculation is William is the sound board of Charles 'weakness' and 'feelings of guilt' with Harry, the latter is malignant narcissist using the weakness of his father. The speculation is William said the 'Constitutional Monarchy lawyers' will draw the fake summit if there's ever one, note I didn't say BRF Lawyers, but Constitutional Monarchy Lawyers. After all, William will have to deal with his brother, even after the passing away of Charles.  Charles cannot have any summit without William.  Both have to agree the ''terms''. Number 10 is with William.  Charles cannot place the Constitutional Monarchy in ridicule, mockery worldwide. 

This is all IF Charles, there are equal number of RR, political journalists who say Charles will place the Monarchy (DUTY) above all.

Charles many moons ago knows that he cannot be giving more 'fuel' to his son to blabber to the mass media.

It seems, however, that even if the king and/or other members of the RF don't consciously provide any fuel, there is drama created over whatever they have done or not done in the past as well as the present, and there are inconsistencies and doubtful statements spewing like gunshot into the air. That's why my opinion is that there should not be a summit. They have to keep ignoring him, sad and cruel as it may seem.

[Amabel2]

What is there to talk about?  Harry has shown that he's spiteful, cruel, dishonest, and generally unpleasant... and greedy for money. 

[LouisFerdinand]

Has Prince Harry ever heard Lynn Anderson sing Rose Garden? In the song she sings "on a silver platter". Does Prince Harry want everything on a silver platter?   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW8iFCwYNVg

[changemhysoul]

I also hope there isn't a summit.

I don't trust anyone not to on the BRF side not to go their favorite royal reporter.

Spend Archie's birthday, celebrating him and focusing on him and move on from people who don't really care and refuse to care. Only travel to the UK when needed for WellChild and etc and other times, sneak in and out with no contact with the family like they did for Invictus in April so by the time someone leaks, they'll already be out of the country.

It works out for everyone.

[Amabel2]

What are tehy needed for, Harry and Meghan?  They are living in the US now, there's really no need for them to visit the UK, the charities there can manage without them and the only reason for them to com to the UK is if they sincerely want to see the RF, which IMO they dont.

[TLLK]

Here's a list of Prince Harry's remaining UK based patronages/charities according to the British Monarchy site. (The site has stated that it is undergoing updates) However many of them are no longer listed ie: Well Child He is still noted as being their Patron. https://www.wellchild.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/our-patron/

https://www.royal.uk/The-Duke-of-Sussex

Meghan doesn't have any listed on her page though she still is patron of Smart Works. The Duchess of Sussex - Smart Works

The couple can still remain in contact with their patronages and support them remotely from the U.S. The pandemic certainly showed that this can happen and they can appear via a video or link at an event.

[Amabel2]

I dont see the point other than they want to keep up  a bit of contact with the UK in case they have to come back. They are not popular, they have a job to do in the US.. ie to make money, and why not concentrate on that?  Im sure the charities they have kept up with, will find other patrons.

[changemhysoul]

Well, they'll visit for in-person events, such as Harry at WellChild, though he didn't get to attend due to the passing of the Queen.

I'm assuming, he'd try to be there in-person this year since last year didn't happen.

If Smart Works does an event and Meghan wants to be there, it's her right but she's been helping and working remotely. If it's something like the One Young World again, she'd be there in person.

Also, Meghan had a life in the UK before the BRF, she liked to travel and she has friends in the UK.

Harry also his people in the UK, his mother is buried there and the like.

So they reasons to come back and visit and a lot of those reasons have nothing to do with the BRF. Unless it's a higher profile thing like WellChild, they should be able to get in and out without anyone batting an eye.

And if their charities wanted other patrons, they would've found them by now.

If the media and royal watchers who hate/dislike them can keep quiet and ignore them on any visits, then it won't be a problem.

Harry while maybe not liking everything about the country, has a love for it and I'm assuming wants to show their kids some things. He'll be back, I just think as long as it's a not a major event and as long as he doesn't contact or tell anyone in the BRF anything, they'll be able to get in and out without people knowing just like before the past Invictus.

They had made it to The Hauge before anyone knew they were in the UK. They managed to squash the pearl clutching of "THEY'RE GOING TO IGNORE THE QUEEN" and took the wind out of the sails of the british media all in one go.

As long as they keep their travel plans like that then there will be no issues.

[TLLK]

The Sussexes will see their friends in the UK and can travel privately.

As for their remaining patronages,  they will work it out with the organizations.

Speaking of patronages and charities,  there are still the ones  which numbered over 1 000 from the late Queen and DoE that will be distributed among the working BRF. I guess that there is a slim chance that the Sussexes will be approached by one or more of the organizations.

[Amabel2]

Honesly who would want them for patrons?  When you kknow that they will if it suits them make up some nonsense about the people they meet, or just not really want to meet people. 

[wannable]

The WellChild 'parents' would need to be a very significant majority to say no to the organizers of the award.

I tend to think that the organization will keep him, only because all 'white' uniforms will agree that he has a combination of troubles. Families with terminally ill children CAN relate, understand lesser worries i.e. troubled people.

[Amabel2]

Frankly I think that Harry made it clear that he did not enjoy or want to do the royal charity work, he's also made ti clear that he still found it amusing that he mocked a disabled woman..I cant imagine poeple wanting to see him turning up at any events.

[wannable]

That also has to be taken into consideration from chief organization head (s).  He has contradicted himself as I posted a couple of weeks ago.

From being ''forced'' to work

[Nightowl]

I also hope there isn't a summit.

I don't trust anyone not to on the BRF side not to go their favorite royal reporter.

Spend Archie's birthday, celebrating him and focusing on him and move on from people who don't really care and refuse to care. Only travel to the UK when needed for WellChild and etc and other times, sneak in and out with no contact with the family like they did for Invictus in April so by the time someone leaks, they'll already be out of the country.

It works out for everyone.

Well that is one thing I agree with you on, yet not going to happen as Meghan has to have her face front and center...I think (could be wrong) that the last time they were here and riding in a car with all windows up for security reasons (?) Meghan on her side rolled the window down and waved to the crowds......that woman is so insecure and weak that the only way she feels good about herself is to be seen out front and center for anyone  who applauds her.  Yes she will go down in history in the royal family and it will not be good.  At least Edward/Wallis and Andrew have kept their mouths shut and did not lie about the royal family......History always repeats itself so I see  a repeat of E/W here with H/M. Meghan should be very ashamed of herself as she is no woman to look up to about being honest, gracious, kind or compassionate, everything she does is for Meghan, not the event or the people involved.

[changemhysoul]

Well that is one thing I agree with you on, yet not going to happen as Meghan has to have her face front and center...I think (could be wrong) that the last time they were here and riding in a car with all windows up for security reasons (?) Meghan on her side rolled the window down and waved to the crowds......that woman is so insecure and weak that the only way she feels good about herself is to be seen out front and center for anyone  who applauds her.  Yes she will go down in history in the royal family and it will not be good.  At least Edward/Wallis and Andrew have kept their mouths shut and did not lie about the royal family......History always repeats itself so I see  a repeat of E/W here with H/M. Meghan should be very ashamed of herself as she is no woman to look up to about being honest, gracious, kind or compassionate, everything she does is for Meghan, not the event or the people involved.

Well, I don't agree with you. People were cheering, she wanted to be nice and waved. I'm going to assume that Meghan knows more about the scale of her security and if that was okay or not more than you. The rest of what you said is just a tangent of dislike and to that I can only shrug my shoulders and move on.

I can say, "That's not going to happen." Is a moot point because it already has happened as I detailed in what you replied too.

Moving on because I don't see meaningful discussion to be had about it.

Lorren Khumalo, Harry & Meghan's nanny, did an interview on The Breakfast Club. She spoke a bit about H&M towards the end but it's really about her life and goals. It's a very interesting interview and she's very inspirational.

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[changemhysoul]

Episode 4 - An International Women?s Day Women Won?t Forget (Meghan Markle, GMB and Women?s Rights)

Also a podcast from way back that mentions Meghan during the Smart Works event.