The Coronation

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Princess Cassandra

Quote from: Nightowl on January 08, 2023, 06:20:26 AM
A very smart move on King Charles's part, the homage should have always been heir to heir, William to his dad King Charles and George to his dad King William someday far off into the future.  Very well done indeed!
I totally agree. It is sad, however, that the other royal dukes will not be able to show the traditional family unity. Kent and Gloucester have been so faithful all these decades and I wish they could have this traditional role in the Coronation. It will certainly be poignant when the Prince of Wales makes his oath.

Nightowl

Thank you, I totally agree with you about the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester.  I have liked them  for decades and read about them when I could.  Each as an heir which is good to keep their heritage intact.   I like heritage and families that find theirs goes back hundreds of years.  Any news on or if Edward and Sophie will get  the Duchy of Edinburgh? 

TLLK

The current Duke of Kent did participate in his cousin's coronation in 1953 and was the third person to swear fealty to her that day. The Dukes of Edinburgh and the previous Duke of Gloucester (Elizabeth and Edward's uncle Henry) proceeded the 17 year old  Edward Kent. The current Duke of Gloucester did not swear fealty as he was only around 8 years old at the time.

Honestly due to the 87 year old Duke of Kent's mobility issues, it would not be an easy task for him to kneel at Charles' feet to swear the fealty oath. It's possible that at 78, the Duke of Gloucester is  content to have the Prince of Wales take on this role representing Charles' titled male relatives.

The Duke of Kent's recollection of his cousin Elizabeth's coronation in 1953. He said he was primarily anxious about forgetting his lines.

Duke of Kent says the Queen's Coronation was 'daunting' and 'overpowering' | Daily Mail Online

Quotehe Duke of Kent has labelled his role in the Queen's Coronation in 1953 'daunting' - and admitted his 'chief anxiety was that I'd forget my lines' in his upcoming memoir.

In his new book 'A Royal Life,' Her Majesty's cousin, 86, details the events following his uncle King George VI's death at Sandringham at the age of 56 - including the Queen's Coronation, reported The Telegraph. 

He recalls in his memoir, set for release later this month, how he was nervous about his lines after being told he would have a prominent role in the ceremony.

Then aged 17, the Duke was informed he would be seated in front of the peers alongside his cousin Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, and his uncle, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, as one of the three royal dukes who would pay homage to the Queen after the Archbishop of Canterbury.

'My chief anxiety was that I would forget my lines. I had been given the impression that I had to remember them so I had learned them by heart,' he recalls.

Princess Cassandra

Quote from: Curryong on September 22, 2022, 01:56:17 AM
There will be all sorts of memorabilia produced for the Coronation, I?m sure, including books. When I was a child I remember my grandmother had a book of the Coronation of King George VI, heavy, with a gold cover. It contained the story of the run up to the Coronation as well, with the Abdication crisis and photos of Edward VIII and Mrs Simpson. I loved looking at it when I was younger.
That would have been something I would have enjoyed, too.  When we were breaking up my parents-in-law's house I brought home a commemorative compact from George V and Mary 's coronation. It still has some face powder in it, but some of the enamel has chipped off. I think it was well used, though it is still in the original presentation box. It's nice to have but isn't the same as something you can look at again and again. You were lucky!


Nightowl

Now why would they stay home, this is one of the biggest events of history and they need to be seen and heard so I expect them to be there and yelling at Charles to make a fool of him as we all know Harry hates his dad and brother.  This will help promote them in the eyes of their fans and the world.

Curryong

Quote from: Nightowl on January 11, 2023, 05:58:44 AM
Now why would they stay home, this is one of the biggest events of history and they need to be seen and heard so I expect them to be there and yelling at Charles to make a fool of him as we all know Harry hates his dad and brother.  This will help promote them in the eyes of their fans and the world.

On which public occasion have Harry or Meghan yelled at any other member of the royal family let alone Charles? And when have they ever disobeyed protocol regarding Charles when in public? None.

Nightowl

Well they have to do something to keep themselves in the news as they need that constant attention from their fans, they are like so many on social media, they need to be valuated to feel important so why not cause problems for Charles at his coronation, after all look at all the problems they are causing now, so it will be nothing new for them to make Charles and William suffer some more.  Nothing they do surprises me anymore in regards to what they do to make trouble or to throw someone under the bus.  They are extremely good at that as they have proven to the entire world.  And now LYING is a form of *art* to them, they surely can't remember all the lies so just make another one.   I don't think they realize that everything they say or do can be FACT checked for the truth......when was the last *truth* they told.  Like now when Harry says he was told when Queen Mom died.......I just shake my head in disbelief over that one for I remember seeing Harry with his dad on the slopes at that time.   

Amabel2

Quote from: Curryong on January 11, 2023, 07:28:57 AM
On which public occasion have Harry or Meghan yelled at any other member of the royal family let alone Charles? And when have they ever disobeyed protocol regarding Charles when in public? None.
they are unpopular enough as it is, they arent going to make any public scenes. 

LouisFerdinand

Would Prince Harry attend the Coronation alone?   

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sara8150

Royals make it clear Harry will NOT be welcome at Charles's coronation, source claims | Daily Mail Online

Harry not set for Coronation invite amid fears private talks will 'end up on paperback' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Prince Harry 'not welcome at coronation as royals fear chats will end up in paperback' - Mirror Online

Prince Harry will not be welcome at Coronation because senior royals fear what they say will 'end up in paperback' | The Sun

I'm a royal expert - there are many historical reasons why King Charles should not invite Harry to the Coronation | The Sun
Confirmed from Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace that Sussex will not welcome to King Charles?s coronation due bombshell claims,embarrassing the members of the royal family and also King Charles and Queen Camilla what Harry claims in his books but Prince Harry broke rules and he cross the line im sure royal experts was corrects but Harry wouldn?t allowed tell all interview included his tell all books and interview is forbidden!! But Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace still silent about Harry?s memoir books and also Netflix not without present from palace attorney

I?m so embarrassed about Prince Harry?s interview on 60 minutes,good morning America and Stephen Colbert but im still silent on Harry?s articles for 24/7 hours im guaranteed Harry wouldn?t allowed write his books about his private personal life,Meghan,children,military and mores but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace is correct about Harry?s memoir is humiliated!! But I didn?t add Harry?s articles more embarrassed


Nightowl

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^I really hope that is true, the entire royal family should just leave Harry alone as they are doing now, let him live his life and just shut the door and lock it with deadbolts.  They can never trust him again nor Meghan and if that was Harry's goal to bomb any bridge back then he blew that bridge sky high in a zillion pieces. He betrayed his family, his heritage, his family traditions, his country and his grandparents whom he claims to love, if that is his way of saying I love you Grannie, then shut that door in his face as there is no trust ever again.  Besides who wants that kind of love as it is poison.

That interview with Stephen Colbert was the worst ever, it really showed Harry in a bad light and Colbert was making fun of him and he did not even get it, and TH, what an idiot doling that, whose feet was he kissing last night.   If Harry did this all for money then that is a very poor excuse indeed. I never liked Colbert and this just proves to me that I should not waste my time watching these shows ever again.


Amabel2

well of course he's doing ti for money, but it is obvious htat Harry has had a long standing grudge against his brother, and is now taking his opportunity to attack him...

wannable

I'm inclined to believe the couple will not receive an invitation.


sara8150

Quote from: wannable on January 12, 2023, 01:24:17 PM
I'm inclined to believe the couple will not receive an invitation.



You?re right about that

sara8150

Quote from: Amabel2 on January 12, 2023, 11:38:23 AM
well of course he's doing ti for money, but it is obvious htat Harry has had a long standing grudge against his brother, and is now taking his opportunity to attack him...

Yes Harry admit write in the books and attacks on his own family and include his own brother the Prince William not necessarily for that but Harry didn?t hug his own dad the King Charles after Princess Diana?s death im so shocked Harry tell all on books how dare,Harry!!

sara8150

Quote from: Nightowl on January 12, 2023, 10:10:59 AM
^I really hope that is true, the entire royal family should just leave Harry alone as they are doing now, let him live his life and just shut the door and lock it with deadbolts.  They can never trust him again nor Meghan and if that was Harry's goal to bomb any bridge back then he blew that bridge sky high in a zillion pieces. He betrayed his family, his heritage, his family traditions, his country and his grandparents whom he claims to love, if that is his way of saying I love you Grannie, then shut that door in his face as there is no trust ever again.  Besides who wants that kind of love as it is poison.

That interview with Stephen Colbert was the worst ever, it really showed Harry in a bad light and Colbert was making fun of him and he did not even get it, and TH, what an idiot doling that, whose feet was he kissing last night.   If Harry did this all for money then that is a very poor excuse indeed. I never liked Colbert and this just proves to me that I should not waste my time watching these shows ever again.



Yes i can?t believe Harry did interview include 60 minutes,good morning America and Stephen Colbert that definitely lame excuse in my royal watchers almost 26 years since 1997 but im been silent about Harry?s interview for 24/7 unbelievable that!!

But members of royal family and include Majesty King and Queen Charles and Camilla not approved on Harry?s bombshell interview and bombshell books

LouisFerdinand

In any of the interviews did the commentator ask what is Prince Harry accomplishing?


sara8150

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Curryong

Quote from: sara8150 on January 12, 2023, 10:24:55 PM
Should Prince Harry attend King Charles? coronation? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk
Polls says NO!! 93% NO! Yes 6% don?t know 1%

Another one of those dodgy unscientifically based ?polls? this rag specialises in, I see. Keeping themselves busy with fake outrage and ?polling?, supposedly of their readers, that mean absolutely zilch!

Princess Cassandra

I'm excited about the Coronation (and surprised that I am so excited, too).  I hope we receive updates along the way, and the closer it gets the more exciting it will be. I am wondering if anyone in the RIF is planning to join the crowds in London? Or even thinking about it?   

Nightowl

^I am also very much, when I was a little girl and could understand what was going on in the world I became very interested in royal families, even with Queen Margrethe of Denmark riding her bike around Copenhagen  with security following her.  I had pictures of her that I saved and somehow got lost in time in a magazine that is no longer produced. I love the English history going way back to Alfred the Great one of my favorite people. I want to see the royal history being preformed and see all the glory that goes with this event.  So this coronation  is something I will really enjoy seeing and saving pictures of it.

Princess Cassandra

And I think we can be assured that the King will ensure that all changes are in the best of taste and appropriateness. Things have to change as time goes on, but it will remain a stately, reverent ceremony. Much to look forward to!

Nightowl

I think is some way it will also be a sad and yet happy time for Charles, after all there would be no coronation if a parent had not passed on. Sad because he is taking the place of his mother whom was admire and loved deeply by so many as we have seen at her funeral yet in another way Charles has prepared for this role his entire life and really really worked to make positive changes in the Duchy which has helped so many of his country men and women. There is always 2 sides to every coin.  He is torn I believe between the 2 in his heart.


Oh I am so sick of the drama from the west.....aren't they tired yet?  Please do not let it interrupt the coronation, we all need a breather and some happy times!   

wannable

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Prince Albert of Monaco Talks About Friendship with King Charles and Looking Forward to His Coronation
Prince Albert describes King Charles as "a most patient man. A very educated man and someone with a great sense of humor"
People Magazine interview

*****

I can't wait to see the outfits, robes, gowns, crowns, circlet crowns, tiaras.

It's going to be a historical day for the books, the media will be lined up.