The Duke and Duchess of Sussex interviews, TV and other media events Part 2

[Curryong]

The wife was caught with 17 lies related to His family. No corrections were made, he's an accessory.

You expected that Harry would come onto Oprah like an avenging whirlwind and start correcting his wife!! Harry obviously loves and adores his spouse (as he should, most married couples do) and he backs her to the hilt. I?ve been married twice and being happily married is definitely an art!

We don?t know what Meghan went through with the RF and senior courtiers nor are we ever likely to know from their side what patronising things were said or snubs given during the Sussexes? engagement and married life in England.

[wannable]

No I did not expect him, they are both 🤥

[Nightowl]

I don?t know whether you have seen the Oprah interview lately. I haven?t, but I?d like you to tell me if you can what lies Harry told Oprah about the RF. Let?s put Meghan aside for the moment, including what she said on Oprah, and just tell me the untruths that HARRY actually said on the show. He wasn?t there for 9/10s of it, remember.

And we can all post anti Meghan and Harry stuff from their detractors on Twitter. As far as I remember, have to check up on it, the couple weren?t paid for their appearance on Oprah, so I can?t see that cheque books would be coming into it.


Fact check: Meghan and Harry were not paid for Oprah Winfrey interview

****First of all, I am not going to list all the lies Meghan said about the family that she married into, it is out there on You Tube if you want to hear her.  Lies are just that...LIES to make them look so innocent and win favor with their fans and at one time I was caught up in LIES because of what was going on in my life and my sister set me straight and from then on in my life I will not tell a damn lie.....why, it hurts my soul and is painful.   And the one thing that REALLY peeves me off big time is how they both did that Oprah show while Philip was in the hospital and he then went home to die.....NOBODY does that to their grandparents ever.....And how they have treated HM after the is just so *disrespectful and disgusting*.  I so wish with all my heart my grandmother (mom) with with me now and for them to do what they did makes me so angry and that will never be forgiven by anyone who does that to their grandparents who treated them so favorably and gave them so much in life..How anyone can say that what they have done is okay just blows my mind.  I hope they live a long fulfilled life in Ca  with all their wants and needs met and leave the royal family across the pond alone to do the job required of them, yet they have nothing to offer except to tell more lies about the royal family.....I am sure the book by Harry will be explosive and will hurt many people in the royal family as that is his goal it seems like....and I am sure Meghan will in a year or two have a book ready to be sent to the printers.  They are as fake and a pair of phonies as my $6.00 bill here.....

[Amabel2]

You expected that Harry would come onto Oprah like an avenging whirlwind and start correcting his wife!! Harry obviously loves and adores his spouse (as he should, most married couples do) and he backs her to the hilt. I?ve been married twice and being happily married is definitely an art!

We don?t know what Meghan went through with the RF and senior courtiers nor are we ever likely to know from their side what patronising things were said or snubs given during the Sussexes? engagement and married life in England.

so how Come Harry said that the RF were the family that Meghan never had? 

[wannable]

^^The list is in every media outlet, be it posted by big mid or small broadcasters at their official websites including their verified social media accounts.  The list has been posted in the RIF immediately after the Oprah. They kept on lying after the Oprah and there is dedicated people adding it to the list, hence it then went global, short term after Oprah it was only concentrated in the UK and the USA. But they both talk to much, contradict together or separate, global since about 6 months ago.

The conflict and the conundrum both Meghan and Harry created by extension directly or indirectly (H as an accessory) to hurt his family and by extension the UK citizens (in its majority, polls) is well and publicly known.  When accounts together (telling their story or ''subjective disernment'') H&M or separate H one thing/timeline and M same thing/diff timeline is universally known in any court of law as unreliable 'evidence' because they've been ''caught'', which immediately is also known as a lie, hence lawyers repeatedly ask their client 'are you sure it happened like this', including the judge notifying the lawyer (s) of both clients of the unreliability due to being caught evidence Translate and transfer that to society, hence society makes all sorts of rules in behaviour and engagement, it's basic 101. People in general follow society rules, if not we'd be living in a constant war zone/mad max era.

^As an example of the ''RF is the family Meghan never had'' Dec 27 2017, Harry created a conflict with Meghan's estranged family, later by stating to Oprah that ''someone in the family said something racist before the pregnancy (Meghan said during the pregnancy), created an extended conflict with His family. 

Now they have a ''emphatic landslide majority'' of estranged family members on both sides. Total loners. A studied fact is when this happens, the person or persons have antisocial behaviour. Society has rules too about antisocial behaviour, hence rules were invented since the beginning of time.

[wannable]

What irks me ''equally'' is third party persons the couple together or separate include in their knitting spider web of drama, which of course will be reported in the media worldwide; like Justin Welby, all the possible black South Africans who denied her drip by drip from the most important to the least.

For third parties HAVING to come out, they must feel offended or worse (worse than offended, like really vexed) that one or the two of them made a public lie. How would you feel? Having to set a record straight because someone made up a lie involving you!!! It's crazy in a sense of does Meghan and Harry think people will just put up with it?!

[Curryong]

so how Come Harry said that the RF were the family that Meghan never had?

We?ve had this conversation before I think, however?..That remark was made right at the beginning, after the first family get together just after the couple had become engaged. Obviously Meghan enjoyed her first Xmas in England in which she met members of Harry?s family or Harry wouldn?t have said what he did.

However, family relationships, even in the closest of families do not remain static for all time, as you must know yourself. I certainly do. (And the older members of the BRF still communicate much of the time through aides as we know so I don?t think they are particularly personally close, or demonstrative as family members.)

I doubt Harry would have repeated the same remark after the summer when he and his wife were left virtually isolated at FC with a newborn. Did Charles and Camilla regularly visit this very young family? Did William and Kate? (We know the Cambridges didnt visit the entire time the Sussexes lived in Oxfordshire.) Highly doubtful or there would have been Press reports.

[Curryong]

^^The list is in every media outlet, be it posted by big mid or small broadcasters at their official websites including their verified social media accounts.  The list has been posted in the RIF immediately after the Oprah. They kept on lying after the Oprah and there is dedicated people adding it to the list, hence it then went global, short term after Oprah it was only concentrated in the UK and the USA. But they both talk to much, contradict together or separate, global since about 6 months ago.

The conflict and the conundrum both Meghan and Harry created by extension directly or indirectly (H as an accessory) to hurt his family and by extension the UK citizens (in its majority, polls) is well and publicly known.  When accounts together (telling their story or ''subjective disernment'') H&M or separate H one thing/timeline and M same thing/diff timeline is universally known in any court of law as unreliable 'evidence' because they've been ''caught'', which immediately is also known as a lie, hence lawyers repeatedly ask their client 'are you sure it happened like this', including the judge notifying the lawyer (s) of both clients of the unreliability due to being caught evidence Translate and transfer that to society, hence society makes all sorts of rules in behaviour and engagement, it's basic 101. People in general follow society rules, if not we'd be living in a constant war zone/mad max era.

^As an example of the ''RF is the family Meghan never had'' Dec 27 2017, Harry created a conflict with Meghan's estranged family, later by stating to Oprah that ''someone in the family said something racist before the pregnancy (Meghan said during the pregnancy), created an extended conflict with His family. 

Now they have a ''emphatic landslide majority'' of estranged family members on both sides. Total loners. A studied fact is when this happens, the person or persons have antisocial behaviour. Society has rules too about antisocial behaviour, hence rules were invented since the beginning of time.

What do ?dedicated followers creating lists of what the Sussexes say and do mean? People on extreme anti Meghan Twitter and Tumblr sites, probably, as you appear to be an avid follower of them and of people like Wootton, Levin and Neil Sean. If we are talking about people spreading lies the anti Meghan sites all over the Internet and the tabloid journalists who trawl them for copy could give everybody a master lesson.

As for rules of evidence in court cases that is both completely irrelevant and in many instances incorrect. People on both sides of a court case can and do lie. Sometimes they win court cases, sometimes not. And incidentally, Meghan has won hers against the Press.

How do you know there?s a ?veritable majority? of members of the RF that are estranged from Harry? Have they all come out and given statements about it? Have Zara or Peter or Mike (who is at the moment appearing in a reality show in the Aus outback?) Have Anne or Edward given a statement? Sophie made a point of saying to a magazine that she had a long chat with Harry after Philip?s funeral. None of us know whether Harry talks to his father or brother by phone or Skype regularly or on occasions.

As for the Markles, Meghan and Harry are better off without any of them. Without Samantha who has attacked her half sister since 2016, without Tom snr who has constantly whined about Harry and said the royal family ?owe him?. Owe him what? For stunts like he pulled before his daughters wedding? As for Tom jnr he has had so little to do with his half sister (or the rest of his family) since he was a teenager that even appearing on an Aus reality TV show earlier this year drew nothing but the same old tired rhetoric.

[wannable]

Why blame third parties when the list is either Harry or Meghan or both with date/time/video/voice/written statement by themselves speaking too much.

She won GBP 1.

Mike is cheeky, he hasn't trashed the family.

There's a court case in the USA Samantha versus Meghan, no conclusion yet. 

[Curryong]

Why blame third parties when the list is either Harry or Meghan or both with date/time/video/voice/written statement by themselves speaking too much.

She won GBP 1.

Mike is cheeky, he hasn't trashed the family.

There's a court case in the USA Samantha versus Meghan, no conclusion yet.

Yes, but who is keeping these ?lists?? They are being kept by people who are anti-Sussex, and on the Internet, which the tabloid press journalists regularly trawl for copy. It?s not an official list being kept by BP to be handed out to foreign Govts, diplomats, the Press Corps etc, lol.

And Meghan won BOTH parts of her case against the Daily Fail. The amount of court awarded compensation didn?t and doesn?t matter. She won.

Samantha wants money from her half-sister. Full stop.

[wannable]

Why should the lists disappear? Since Tampon gate will never disappear, there is no reason for H&M lies to disappear.

But caught lying, she had to apologize.

USD75K is peanuts. She should have asked for more, since the judge gave it greenlight for court dates. Basically that is the amount Samantha makes in one year of earnings, billed as a Mental Therapist. (According to her case, bills that proved her job)

[Curryong]

Why should the lists disappear? Since Tampon gate will never disappear, there is no reason for H&M lies to disappear.

But caught lying, she had to apologize.

USD75K is peanuts. She should have asked for more, since the judge gave it greenlight for court dates. Basically that is the amount Samantha makes in one year of earnings, billed as a Mental Therapist. (According to her case, bills that proved her job)

For years Samantha had ?proof? on her Twitter account that she had several Masters degrees in psychiatry and psychology from various universities in the US that she would never name (probably because it would prove she never attended any such establishment.) I can remember those claims very clearly. It now comes down to a therapist diploma from wherever!

And I am suspicious that Samantha is earning thousands per year as a therapist of any sort, whatever she showed the judge. How?s the anti-Meghan book you authored that was going to be Part One of a Two Part series going, btw, Samantha (or is it Yvonne?)

Curious that every time Meghan is involved in a court case you produce things that appear to prove that Meghan (or Harry) is about to lose big and the case is a slam dunk for the other side. That has been and is, far from the case. I happen to have been following this case and there have been judgements that favour Meghan over the months as well. What has been reported is just normal procedure from both sides in an ongoing non criminal court case.

The info below was provided by you know who! Masters degrees from where, might one ask? And when asked for proof of earnings this graduate in various disciplines from US universities, provides to a judge, when she has to put forward valid documentation, a therapy diploma!!

Samantha Grant Markle - Biography - IMDb

[Curryong]

Witnesses in defamation case against Meghan Markle have been identified | Now To Love

[Princess Cassandra]

A thread to discuss the interviews, television appearances and other media events for the Sussexes Part 2.


I'm just putting this on a new thread because the QCT controversy is getting mixed in with all sort of other aspects of the Sussexes lives.

This is some of what Harry actually said in that video discussion. He didn't attack Granny or anybody else. He did not attack the Commonwealth organisation as such.

"(There is) no way that we can move forward unless we acknowledge the past. So many people have done such an incredible job of acknowledging the past and trying to right those wrongs, but I think we all acknowledge there is so much more still to do. It's not going to be easy and in some cases it's not going to be comfortable but it needs to be done, because guess what: Everybody benefits."

The vast majority of the countries of the Commonwealth are in the organisation because they were colonised by the British. They didn't just transform appear in a pink mist from nowhere because King George VI Queen Elizabeth II decided it would be a good idea to have a Commonwealth. The countries concerned are almost all a product of the colonial history of GB.

I hope no-one here is going to deny that colonisation contained some bad/inhumane aspects. All he is saying IMO is that we in the realms and other countries within the Commonwealth have to recognise our pasts and acknowledge that various aspects of it were not good.

And speaking for myself, as an Aussie, there are commentators and others around today in Australia who still deny that the Stolen Generation (aborigine children who were taken from their parents 'for their own good', for several decades, to be placed in missions and Homes, supervised and cared for by white people (some well meaning, some not) and assert that these children were mostly taken away because of parental neglect. That process by several State Govts caused trauma to every family member, that lingers on, in spite of Prime Minister Rudd's heartfelt official Apology to the Stolen Generation about forty years too late.

This took place in the 20th century in an Australia that was a Commonwealth member during that time and had signed up to its Charter. Did the Commonwealth as a whole rap Australia (or Canada) over the knuckles about these policies or ask them to change their attitude to the indigenous population, to recognise what they were doing was wrong? No! As an organisation it failed, as a talking shop at successive CHOGMS in the 1950s/60s/ it failed. And I say that as a proud Aussie and supporter of the Commonwealth.

I have heard Harry make angry accusations - I hope he adopts the more conciliatory approach I read in his quote at the beginning of your post.
As you know, here in the States we have had slavery, shameful treatment of indigenous people, and other injustices in our past (and still in our present). Racism is our legacy from these evil practices, and I think we need to acknowledge that reversing racism is more of a marathon than a sprint. It is a sea change; it will not get cured by anger and violence, and it is not helped by accusations and hate. This is what I think Dr. Martin Luther King was trying to say. I agree we have to face the horrible things that have been done, and if we are truly enlightened, we can acknowledge them with remorse and a sad understanding of man's inhumanity to man, and then resolve to address racism accordingly. In fact, this is our responsibility to ourselves and the future, rather than uselessly blaming ourselves for the past.
There are those here who actually cultivate unrest for political advantage. And there are others who address the issue of past inhumanities with anger, accusations and violence. In my view they are just perpetuating the evils of racism and hate. Thankfully, there are others who seek unity and an end to injustice and unrest. Harry and others in the public eye can effect real change and reverse useless patterns of negativity by choosing their words and the tone of their speeches carefully. In fact, we can all do the same.   

[Nightowl]

What a *Brilliant Comment* Princess Cassandra, just so remarkably insightful and again Brilliant.......read it 3 times and love it. So wish more people would read and step up. Thank You!

[TLLK]

I have heard Harry make angry accusations - I hope he adopts the more conciliatory approach I read in his quote at the beginning of your post.
As you know, here in the States we have had slavery, shameful treatment of indigenous people, and other injustices in our past (and still in our present). Racism is our legacy from these evil practices, and I think we need to acknowledge that reversing racism is more of a marathon than a sprint. It is a sea change; it will not get cured by anger and violence, and it is not helped by accusations and hate. This is what I think Dr. Martin Luther King was trying to say. I agree we have to face the horrible things that have been done, and if we are truly enlightened, we can acknowledge them with remorse and a sad understanding of man's inhumanity to man, and then resolve to address racism accordingly. In fact, this is our responsibility to ourselves and the future, rather than uselessly blaming ourselves for the past.
There are those here who actually cultivate unrest for political advantage. And there are others who address the issue of past inhumanities with anger, accusations and violence. In my view they are just perpetuating the evils of racism and hate. Thankfully, there are others who seek unity and an end to injustice and unrest. Harry and others in the public eye can effect real change and reverse useless patterns of negativity by choosing their words and the tone of their speeches carefully. In fact, we can all do the same.   

@Princess Cassandra -Excellent remarks on this topic sad human history.

[sara8150]

Harry and Meghan's original Netflix director quit 'over creative differences' | Daily Mail Online

[sara8150]

Confusion over NBC announcement about Meghan Markle's Tonight Show appearance | Daily Mail Online

Mystery as Meghan Markle is announced as a guest of Jimmy Fallon ? and then cancelled | HELLO!

Meghan Markle not appearing on NBC after ?embarrassing? mix up | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Palace gave Meghan Markle strict rules on TV show over Prince Harry relationship fears - Mirror Online
Palace makes strict rules no interview but Harry and Meghan broke the rules not since Oprah and NBC but Palace says no tell all interview on their personal questions or family and friends NOPE!! Definitely forbidden

Meghan Markle baffles fans after US talk show announces she WILL appear as guest... despite pal claiming she won't | The Sun
Wednesday December 7

[Nightowl]

Harry and Meghan's original Netflix director quit 'over creative differences' | Daily Mail Online

Not surprised at all as they always seem to have people that work for them quitting all the time.  They must be very difficult to work for it seems like.   

[Princess Cassandra]

Not surprised at all as they always seem to have people that work for them quitting all the time.  They must be very difficult to work for it seems like.

I've learned to believe little of what I read or see in the media, but for what it's worth, I've read about plenty of complaints. 

[wannable]

I heard only part of Meghan's first podcast with Serena Williams, more interested in what the tennis legend had to say - roughly she spoke 15 min of the 60. I find it quite boring and just read article analysis of each episode. IMO the guests should speak more than the host (Q&A should be Question Host, Answer Guest (s))

The hype of Meghan's archetypes has run its course IMO. From the first episode #1 to last week's #77

[Macrobug67]

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[TLLK]

This is the second time in the same week that a Sussex thread has been closed due to bickering and those posts were removed.  Thread will remain closed until Friday 11/25/22. Do not take the discussion to another thread.

[TLLK]

Thread is now reopened after a clean up.

[TLLK]

It's been confirmed that the series will be released on December 8, 2022.

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle's Netflix Series Release Date Confirmed For December