Andrew and new Epstein Trial

Started by Curryong, July 10, 2019, 01:18:07 AM

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Blue Clover

An increase in Prince Andrew, Epstein, and Ghislaine articles today.

Princess Cassandra

News clip last night said that he has been un-cooperative in the US investigation of Epstein's crimes.

sandy

The FBI wants to question Andrew. He was accused of not cooperating in all our news sources here.


sandy

I thought it would only get worse and it is.

sara8150

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Curryong

Of course Andrew is going to ignore all this investigating  as much and for as long as he possibly can. His mother has his back and nothing potentially embarrassing can ever happen to her baby boy!


sandy

There will probably another Churchgoing photo this weekend. The Queen won't face reality.


sandy

Andrew should just get on with it and cooperate and stop being "angry and bewildered."  If the FBI said he failed to cooperate then he failed to cooperate. He needs to grow up and accept responsibility.

wannable

It's very confusing ''to date'' as Andrew's team states as a matter of fact that they haven't received any formal communication/request from the USA Feds or the Court and insist that Andrew is willing to collaborate once they DO receive the formal coms, rather than by media tit for tat.

Not defending but reading it all and stating here in the RIF what is new and about.

Double post auto-merged: January 29, 2020, 06:39:19 PM


Also the best way for the media to show factually is screen shot the FBI and/or Court warrant for Duke of York's presence, collaboration letter....

That way they can REALLY have him in the spot for the ''latest news'' development.

sandy

I tend to believe the FBI. I think Andrew and his "team" are stalling.

The FBI is under no obligation to "prove" they want Andrew to testify, particularly having to show the media.

TLLK

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I found this article answered many questions.
Can Prince Andrew be forced to testify? - BBC News

Question #1

QuoteCan Prince Andrew be forced to co-operate with an investigation in the US?

There are two broad types of legal "investigations" involved.

Firstly, the criminal investigation being conducted by the FBI into Jeffrey Epstein.

Secondly, investigations being undertaken by lawyers acting for accusers of Jeffrey Epstein who are seeking compensation in civil claims against his estate.

Prince Andrew is not under any legal obligation to assist the FBI or lawyers representing Epstein's accusers.


However, under something known as "Mutual Legal Assistance" (MLA), both prosecutors and the lawyers acting for Epstein's accusers can issue a formal request for the prince to give evidence (known as a deposition) in the UK.

In relation to the criminal investigation, this would take place at a magistrates' court, almost certainly Westminster Magistrates Court, where it is customarily done.

Prince Andrew would be sworn in and asked questions. The hearing would take place before a judge in private. However, he could exercise his right against self-incrimination and choose not to answer.


In relation to the civil claims, there is a similar process. Again, a formal letter of request must be issued under MLA. The High Court would then appoint an examiner - either an experienced barrister or a "master", a judge who deals with procedural matters before a trial.

Prince Andrew would be required to attend a place and answer questions on oath in a private hearing. Questions would be put by lawyers representing Epstein's accusers, and Prince Andrew would be entitled to legal representation. Again, he could exercise his right against self-incrimination and not answer.

In both the civil and criminal proceedings, Prince Andrew could seek to have any formal MLA request set aside before he is deposed, on the grounds that he has no relevant or material evidence to give.[
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Question #2

QuoteWill 'depositions' happen?

If it happens, it is all some way off in the future. Statements by US prosecutor Geoffrey Berman and lawyers for Epstein's accusers are putting moral pressure on Prince Andrew to co-operate.

That co-operation could be provided by the prince informally by agreement. This is something that his lawyers are likely to be seriously considering now.

It is significant that neither US prosecutors nor lawyers for Epstein's accusers have yet issued MLA requests, so there is the opportunity for the prince to co-operate informally.

Question #3.

QuoteWhat if a subpoena is issued in the United States?

A subpoena is an order to compel someone to appear in court or to submit evidence.

If that happens, there is no obligation for Prince Andrew to go to the US and submit to the subpoena.

If he did travel to the US and there is an outstanding subpoena, he could in theory be arrested for contempt of court and taken to a court to answer questions.

It is obviously highly unlikely that he would be arrested. It would be more likely that he would simply be required to go to court and answer questions. Once in court the Prince could exercise his right against self-incrimination and refuse to answer questions.

Daniel Sternberg, a barrister specialising in extradition law at Temple Garden Chambers in London, said: "It is important to remember that Prince Andrew has not been charged with any offence in the US. The FBI is investigating whether he has material evidence that could assist in its criminal investigation of alleged sex trafficking.

"In the civil case brought by Epstein's victims, the close friendship between the Prince and Epstein means that the lawyers for Epstein's victims believe his evidence may be relevant to their claims.

"While there is no way to compel Prince Andrew to give evidence in the UK or the US in either the civil or criminal case, his failure to do so does not sit well with his previous public statements that he would help any appropriate law enforcement agency with its inquiries."

However the legal process develops, Prince Andrew's discomfort is likely to increase



wannable

Richard Palmer
@RoyalReporter
Jan 29
Prince Andrew hits back. It?s hard to get to the bottom of this. The truth is that two sets of lawyers are arguing over the conditions for an interview and no formal request has been made yet.

sandy

He is in no position to "hit back." Andrew should seek counseling and therapy.

wannable

And yet his lawyers speak in behalf by 'hitting back'.

Not that he should be defended, but the latest is his people are waiting for an official request.

The media took the victims lawyers microphone to media as ''official''.  It needs to come in stationary paper with the victims lawyers firm blue signature, blue seal.  Same with the USA government arm, FBI.

sandy

Andrew made himself clear in that interview.

wannable

Yes he did say in his interview that he wants to collaborate, hence his lawyers are waiting for an official in paper request.  A tape recorded microphone to media is not official and can't be filed in their or the victims lawyers or the FBI file. 

Of course I'd like him to collaborate and testify to both parties; the victims lawyers and the FBI. Or subpoena as a witness, this also comes in paper as being 'served' (envelope with the notice)


QueenAlex

Quote from: sandy on January 30, 2020, 02:45:23 PM
He is in no position to "hit back." Andrew should seek counseling and therapy.
why?  Because the FBI haven't communicated with his lawyers?

sandy

Andrew is stalling, he knows what he should be doing. I see no excuses for him.

QueenAlex

Quote from: sandy on January 30, 2020, 05:27:51 PM
Andrew is stalling, he knows what he should be doing. I see no excuses for him.

he's not going to answer questions till his lawyers get a formal request.