PoW and DssoC Official overseas travel 2019-present

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sandy

#75
March 24, 2019, 11:07:23 AM
SHe does not have to wear clothes for younger women. She has her own tailors and designers. I still find the outfit way out of place for the venue.

She is not stylish but she can get clothing designers to get her more suitable clothes. The Queen and her late mother never went in for flowing garb but more tailored designs. Camilla looks like she just took the dresses she wore to mosques and put them in a suitcase.
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Quote from: TLLK on March 24, 2019, 01:27:00 AM
I disagree that she looks out of place. The colors and the use of the natural  fabrics (linen/cotton) are well suited for warm and humid climates in the Caribbean just as they would be in Southeast Asia or on the Indian Subcontinent.  :)

She can do better. She has designers at her disposal.  ANd the clothing tends to get wrinkly. Charles could use some work on his wardrobe too, his suits look wrinkled.

amabel

#76
March 24, 2019, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: sandy on March 24, 2019, 01:47:52 PM
The styles with the natural fabrics could be different and more suited to the culture
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what is unsuitable about loose clothes which are from natural materials that are sutiable for hot humid weather?

amabel

#77
March 24, 2019, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: TLLK on March 24, 2019, 03:48:14 PM
@sandy-I'm not sure what you are expecting for the "culture." Could you please share an example? TBH what Camilla is wearing is similar to what I've seen at Chico's which caters to Camilla's generation. Tunic tops and loose pants are fairly common for the over 65 age group.
if th culture is Caribbean?  I got the impression that people tend to wear loose light coloured clothes,  ie long shirts and loose pants.. as it is the most comfortable to wear in that climate....

TLLK

#78
March 24, 2019, 03:54:33 PM
Absolutely true @amabel. People around the world who live in hot and humid climates tend to choose loose fitting clothing.

wannable

#79
March 24, 2019, 04:03:07 PM
Perhaps @sandy means ''themed'' to the Caribbean; parrots, palm trees, flower motif.   i.e. like the pacific island motifs.  Although I see younger generation like Catherine and Meghan, the later likes her monochrome or single pallet colour if we are to go by ''pacific'' tours and warm weather, beachy, tropical climes.

I think Camilla looks quite appropriate for her age, the fashion choice of light coloured single pallet is ''In''.  The themed clothing I described is very 80's 90's. Not much of this type of wear is used in droves today versus 3 decades ago. One sees in the outdoor areas in tropical or island countries, especially the young generation, do not wear these themed jeweled coloured pallets like their 50, 60 and geriatric parents/grandparents.


I do travel a lot yearly to some pacific islands and the Caribbean.

wannable

#82
March 24, 2019, 06:53:25 PM
Also true and valid in my fashion world self...

I was giving the ''options'' of fashion for Camilla, since I noticed the clothing conversation was stuck in agreeing in her choices so far/this trip or complaining or insinuating she can do better options but not giving the options.  Rabbit hole situation tactic, saying she can do it, but no how, no ideas, no examples.  :teehee:  So there you go gave them all. Bob Marley and Wailers colorful outfits, very Jamaican.

wannable

#84
March 25, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
I highly doubt UK business will be interested.  Whilst Cuba is a main topic with Human Rights violations, jailed dissidents, activists, and journalists.



amabel

#86
March 25, 2019, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: TLLK on March 25, 2019, 02:35:30 AM
@sandy-Pleas

Today Camilla wore a dress with hose and low heels at the church. In your opinion, is this the more appropriate outfit for her to wear on this tour?

@amabel-Yes Diana's wedding dress was an excellent example of a natural fabric that does wrinkle. IMO even though it was prone to wrinkles, I'd still choose that over a synthetic.


well of course you would.  Good quality stuff is real and tends to wrinkle  but it lasts longer and is more comfortable to wear

sandy

#87
March 25, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: TLLK on March 25, 2019, 02:35:30 AM
@sandy-Please reread my most. I never told you to give an example. Rather I made a simple request that you could share an example of what you would expect Camilla to wear for the "culture" of the Caribbean. If Camilla chooses to shop at a place like Chicos, then that's her choice or she could continue to have a dressmaker create her tunic/trouser outfits.

Today Camilla wore a dress with hose and low heels at the church. In your opinion, is this the more appropriate outfit for her to wear on this tour?

@amabel-Yes Diana's wedding dress was an excellent example of a natural fabric that does wrinkle. IMO even though it was prone to wrinkles, I'd still choose that over a synthetic.



Yes it is more appropriate for her to wear a dress instead of what looks more like casual wear

Princess Cassandra

#88
March 26, 2019, 01:32:30 PM
Well, he did get his tour of Old Havana yesterday, and some of the pictures showed  one or two samples of architecture. Also he got to speak to some "American tourists", so the border is opening up a bit. Going there is definitely on my bucket list. 

Princess Cassandra

#93
March 29, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Now that the trip is over I'm finding pictures of it all over the place to look at my leisure. What a great visit they had to the Caribbean! And what a surprise to find that not ALL of the Cuban architecture has been left to decrepitude as I had been led to believe. Two pictures I found gorgeous from Cuba; one was of the Prince and the Duchess at the theater, and one was taken in a government building on their last day in Cuba. I also didn't know that there is an equestrian venue on the island. The beaches on the islands they visited are gorgeous, also.  And it looks like they were very well received. The Queen must be so pleased.   

wannable

#94
March 29, 2019, 05:21:39 PM
Quite right, admirable at their age; 65 duties for Charles, 50 for Camilla, all in 9 days.

royalanthropologist

#95
March 29, 2019, 05:49:43 PM
He he. That is true Wannable about royal tours from time immemorial. Moreover, the opinion that matters is that of the host and the British government, both of whom felt that C&C were suitable representatives of the country and the commonwealth. Charles is the next Head of the Commonwealth, so touring member countries is a priority. I think the trip went well.

Of course there are silly things like the "question-answer-reporting-gate" that never was, but overall there were no mishaps. The hosts seemed happy and so did the royal couple. I hope the UK and Cuba will continue developing links.

BTW @sara8150 you are doing great job with all the updates and links. Much appreciated.  :thumbsup:
"In the past, people were born royal. Nowadays, royalty comes from what you do"...Gianni Versace

royalanthropologist

#96
March 31, 2019, 06:02:19 PM
Sometimes there is a misunderstanding of what these trips are all about. In my view, the British government agrees them with the host. The rationale is that a relatively non-political BRF is much better at soft diplomacy than a hard-nosed minister who may not be all that well known.

From that perspective, it is sad when such trips are trivialized and labelled "jollys" by people who either do not know or do not want to know. It is even more tragic when a trip such as this is reduced to body-shaming, the pettiest of nitpicks, old family squabbles and all sorts of imagined or real sleights.

Having got that off my chest, I think that the discussion about the life of people in the Caribbean and their history is very important.  I suppose the royal visitors are always briefed beforehand so that they do not commit any bad faux pas. One of the unique things about the Caribbean is how many of those states were actually rebellious slaves who refused to submit to their masters.
"In the past, people were born royal. Nowadays, royalty comes from what you do"...Gianni Versace

TLLK

#97
March 31, 2019, 07:20:29 PM Last Edit: March 31, 2019, 07:26:52 PM by TLLK
QuoteSometimes there is a misunderstanding of what these trips are all about. In my view, the British government agrees them with the host. The rationale is that a relatively non-political BRF is much better at soft diplomacy than a hard-nosed minister who may not be all that well known.
:goodpost:

Modern constitutional monarchies typically dispatch the monarch/consort, adult heir/spouse and any other adult family members on these types of goodwill trips throughout the calendar year. Ranging from full State Visits (typically held in the Spring and Fall) to more low key official and working trips, they're part of the diplomatic mission for their respective governments. In recent weeks the monarchs from Spain, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark and Jordan have been involved in these types of trips. Also the various heirs from the UK and Denmark have also been abroad representing their nations. The Swedish CP couple and the UK's Duke of Cambridge will be embarking across the Pacific to Vietnam and New Zealand in the coming weeks.

IMHO to have them labeled as holidays does a disservice to the host nation(s) and the incoming representatives from the visiting country.

Here is an article that explains the planning process and the realities of a foreign visit for royals. IMO it could be applied for any reigning royal family from Lichtenstein to the UK.
Royal Tour Planning Process - What Happens on a Royal Tour & Who Pays For It

Planning a royal tour

QuoteRoyal tours can take up to a year to plan, and are either instigated by the UK government, or by an invitation from the host country. The itinerary is put together based on whatever matters of national importance the host government would like to draw attention to, while also incorporating some of the visiting royal's personal interests.

QuoteThe UK government usually covers the cost of the international flights that the royal party and their team require in getting to and from the country they're visiting, but the host nation covers the majority of costs. The theory goes that they have invited the royal party to visit, and the resulting publicity will showcase their country as a tourist destination and draw positive attention to causes and initiatives.

QuoteWhat the royal party do in their downtime?

They actually don't really get much free time to themselves. Royal tours used to span months, but these days it's more economical to cover more engagements in less time, so the royals will never be away longer than two weeks, and customarily they attend around four engagements a day.

TLLK

#98
April 15, 2019, 12:52:58 PM
Royal Visit Germany: Charles and Camilla?s May Tour Revealed ? Royal Central

QuoteThe Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall are to make a four day visit to Germany next month. The couple will undertake the trip at the request of the UK government.

Charles and Camilla?s tour will run from May 7th to May 11th 2019 and see them visit Berlin, Leipzig and Munich on a trip that aims to show the depth of relations between the UK and Germany and underline the continuing importance of those links.

With QEII having given up foreign travel, I would expect that her heir and his spouse will continue to make several foreign visits throughout the year.

Princess Cassandra

#99
April 16, 2019, 03:19:37 AM
Quote from: TLLK on April 15, 2019, 12:52:58 PM
Royal Visit Germany: Charles and Camilla?s May Tour Revealed ? Royal Central

With QEII having given up foreign travel, I would expect that her heir and his spouse will continue to make several foreign visits throughout the year.

Yes, and a four-day trip to those cities will be very interesting to follow.  Interesting also will be to see if the Sussex baby arrives during that time. 
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