Team Sussex: The Sussex Family General Chat Part 1

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Neil Sean last night said Meghan's agent has found her a new job, Judge of the Rupaul Drag Show, will she accept? Money is money.

[Curryong]

Neil Sean last night said Meghan's agent has found her a new job, Judge of the Rupaul Drag Show, will she accept? Money is money.

I doubt it. And media stories that the Sussexes are desperately scraping around for money is imo very very missing the mark.

[Curryong]

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/emotional-blackmail-huge-problem-with-calls-for-meghan-to-forgive-her-family/news-story/72eb280be7c81df3810039ffe08356c1

?Five birthdays have come and gone for Thomas Markle since he last spoke to his daughter,? Kay writes, like a man secretly hoping for a call from Mills & Boon.

?Of all the broken relationships that have marked Meghan and Prince Harry?s life since their split from the Royal Family, the cruellest, surely, is how they discarded the duchess?s father.

?Not only has he never met his son-in-law, but he has also been robbed of his role as grandfather to Archie and Lilibet.?

This is just the latest instance of some of those in the British media especially who seem remarkably ready to buy Thomas? innocent naive retiree routine ? that he was some unsophisticated goober who, back in 2016, was trapped in the maw of the world?s press and a man who only staged paparazzi photos for cash in some misguided attempt to wrest back control.?

Then there is the Mail?s Dan Wootton, currently facing his own issues, who has repeatedly castigated the duchess over her attitude towards Daddy Dearest.

Thomas, Wootton has written, ?lives in hope that one day his daughter will end the estrangement before his death, which he openly predicts will come in the next three years.?

(When Markle appeared on Australian 60 Minutes earlier this year, Wootton tweeted, ?So glad Thomas Markle is getting his voice back?, like he was some sort of falsely imprisoned Iranian women?s rights activist, not a retiree who probably has half the world?s breakfast TV shows? numbers stored in his phone and his own YouTube channel).

And yet where is the same attitude when it comes to King Charles, William and Kate? Are we regularly treated to impassioned pieces demanding that they forgive the Sussexes for having taken their family drama and turned it into a Netflix hit?

Do they often face leading columnists and writers penning lengthy pieces detailing how their refusal to overlook Harry and Meghan?s large-scale breaching of their privacy makes them look like huge meanies?

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Of course not.

Meghan and Harry not excusing Thomas and welcoming him with open arms is just held up as proof of how selfish and unfeeling they are ? and yet when the royal family does exactly the same thing, it is presented as being morally superior and virtuous and oh-so-strong.?


I agree with every bit of this.

[Curryong]

The Sussexes haven?t ?spoken out? about dozens and dozens of articles in the tabloid Press slamming them, making them look bad etc.

As for wanting the ?prestige? of travelling on Air Force One back to the US, my previous arguments against them making such a request still stand.
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They were at that Memorial Service at St George?s as senior members of the RF. They sat next to the Wales family. Meghan was, and remains incidentally, the third adult royal female in precedence in the Royal Family. Harry is of course the third adult male in form of precedence as well.

Why would they ask for some sort of privileged travel when they occupy those sort of positions already as senior royals in the BRF? And yes, I know they aren?t working royals. But Harry and Meghan are still son and daughter in law to the King, who only has two sons.

And Jill Biden did not attend a ?private function? at Disney. Disney provided the facilities and therefore hosted it. However it was a 2023 seminar allied to the Warrior Games, and Dr Biden certainly did not attend in order to avoid meeting Harry. That is a quite ridiculous imputation to put on it. She?s been involved with the Warrior Games for well over a decade.

Joe Biden is, at the end of everything, an elected official. At one point, if he doesn?t die in office, he will be an ex President, and Mrs Biden will be an ex President?s wife. That is not some sort of glorified position like a god on earth.

[Curryong]

And from the Mirror online.

There is always talk that Meghan tips paps etc off as to where she will be in order to get her photo out there. Not according to the female photographer who snapped her recently at the Farmers Market and speaks about it in the article below. .

Meghan and Harry mortified as they're 'BANNED' from private members' club in Montecito - Mirror Online

By the way, the Sussexes haven?t been banned from any private club, at Montecito or anywhere else.

[wannable]

^ I don't know if they were banned, I guess if they do not go to the San Vicente club ever again, then Lady Hervey was speaking the truth.

^^^That poor author having to write a hit piece for a pay check- her top proof is Thomas hired the Sussex friendly backgrid guy for photo ops.

[wannable]

California Health & Safety Code 114259.5 stipulates that live animals aren't allowed in Certified Farmers' Markets and permitted food facilities, with the exception of service animals. Fraudulently misrepresenting service animals is a misdemeanor.

Here's the website for Santa Barbara Co. Markets. I've been to the one in Goleta when my daughter was a student at UCSB.  Home | Sbcfma
There are some pet friendly farmer's markets in California, but it would appear that the one the Duchess visited does post the signs regarding live animals. As far as  I know, it's up to the managers of the markets to enforce the code.

^ The California Health & Safety Code misdemeanor is banning the person of the dog to that market. 

I have two dogs, I have neighbours and friends who say their dogs are well behaved and never will bark, bite, pee or poo where they shouldn't.  Never believe it will never happen. There are some states in the USA where the owner in any random public areas - due to lack of rain - have to carry a water bottle to wash the pee, other than the poo bag.  Where I live, dog with no leash - the misdeamenor is 72 hours of jail, pet is confiscated or pay the penalty which to put it simple, all lawful penalties in this country is VERY steep. Then there's also CCTV all over the place, a neighbour vs another farther away neighbour won her dog bite case, the farther neighbour had to pay all vet expenses, gov court expenses, on and on.

[Curryong]

Media outlets are now starting to report that Lady (use the term loosely) Victoria Hervey?s claim that Meghan and Harry have been banned from an exclusive LA club due to breaking rules, was just a load of bs. The couple are still ?more than welcome? there.

Insider rejects embarrassing claims about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry

She went on GB News and uttered a baseless rumour that she had heard ?from someone telling her? about that banning. Even Neil Sean has called her out on it and questioned why the news channel haven?t yet refuted it. But of course anything that makes the Sussexes look bad in any way is acceptable on that channel.

Lady Victoria should stick to defending her great ex lover and friend Prince Andrew and leave other people?s lives alone if she doesn?t have a viable source for her gossip, imo. Or she might end up getting sued, perhaps by Andrew?s victim Virginia G (whom he paid out) whom she accused of concocting a fake photo to establish her claim. In fact that photo of Andrew and victim was far from fake even if Ldy V can?t see it.

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Wow the article doesn't credit Neil Sean, he gave the exclusive, he said he had an exclusive of the denial of Lady Hervey more than 3 days ago!

[Curryong]

Wow the article doesn't credit Neil Sean, he gave the exclusive, he said he had an exclusive of the denial of Lady Hervey more than 3 days ago!

Did I say that the article credited Neil Sean with anything? No I didn?t. And whether Sean picked up gossip that Ldy Victoria didn?t and doesn?t know what the heck she is talking about with regard to the Sussexes, is neither here nor there.

The fact is that this supporter of Andrew and his behaviour sat in a TV studio as some sort of so-called royal expert, and began a rumour that was printed in countless media outlets, and the whole thing was baseless. So let?s hope GB news viewers know exactly how viable her reports are in future. Though I?m not holding my breath!

[wannable]

I wasn't referring to you, I was referring the article, an exclusive should be mentioned by the journalist/editor of that article. The originator denying Lady Hervey was Neil Sean. Basically the Thenews.com.pk from Pakistan stole the exclusive from a British reporter.

[Nightowl]

Neil Sean last night said Meghan's agent has found her a new job, Judge of the Rupaul Drag Show, will she accept? Money is money.

Don't believe that for a second....just fake news!

[wannable]

^ Time will tell what WME can find for Meghan.  Three months since the agent and Meghan signed up and other than Rupaul, just a few days ago Neil Sean strikes again that they also have found her Stritly Come Dancing, BBC, UK with two options; 1. Judge 2. Protagonist of their Christmas Special - Neil said that either option is a very big check.

Will she, won't she?

I am also curious about does she regret from Duchess to finding gigs as a living?

[Nightowl]

^Oh I think that title Duchess of Essex is her driving force behind everything she does, that title is everything  to her...just look at how she has used/made it in most everything she has done. Yes she has the right to do that........yet has she ever been to Essex, England? 

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^Oh I think that title Duchess of Essex is her driving force behind everything she does, that title is everything  to her...just look at how she has used/made it in most everything she has done. Yes she has the right to do that........yet has she ever been to Essex, England? 

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex visited in 2018.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/gma/story/duke-duchess-sussex-visit-sussex-details-harry-meghans-58251423

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex made their first visit Wednesday to Sussex.

Prince Harry, dressed in a suit, and Meghan Markle, dressed in a green Hugo Boss leather skirt, arrived in Sussex in style, by helicopter. They were greeted with cheers from well-wishers in the area where Harry, 34, derives his dukedom.The couple visited Chichester, Brighton and Bognor Regis in the county of Sussex.

[Nightowl]

^ Thanks for that info, your so much better at finding things then me even on google.   Well at least they both visited Essex before they left, still I don't see the need for titles as they are not working royals anymore.  Status, egos, whatever..........all to up the ante if they want something.   

[Curryong]

^ Time will tell what WME can find for Meghan.  Three months since the agent and Meghan signed up and other than Rupaul, just a few days ago Neil Sean strikes again that they also have found her Stritly Come Dancing, BBC, UK with two options; 1. Judge 2. Protagonist of their Christmas Special - Neil said that either option is a very big check.

Will she, won't she?

I am also curious about does she regret from Duchess to finding gigs as a living?

Show business is one of the most insecure professions on the face of the earth. People who enter it, whether as actors, musicians or anything else, aren?t people who are terribly worried about security and a weekly pay cheque. If they were then they?d go into accounting, dentistry, office work, something that does offer that sort of financial support. It?s often a vocation and people in the performing arts feel driven to do it.

So no, I don?t think that Meghan regrets the move. She regarded her time being told what to do and say by Palace officials as stressful I would say, and especially as she was in a new country as a new wife and mother.

I think Harry does probably finds that kind of thing as challenging as he grew up in a very structured way, many relatives including his own father working within the confines of the Royal Household, and then he went into the army, again the same thing. So I do believe that Harry finds everything still very new, quite scary at times and challenging. However, as I do not believe he will ever leave his wife or allow his children to grow up without a father 24/7 as he did, he is going to have to find a way to make it work in the US. He certainly knows that Meghan will never want to live in the UK fulltime or perform royal duties ever again and I don?t believe he wants that either, whatever the British media say. .

[Curryong]

^ Thanks for that info, your so much better at finding things then me even on google.   Well at least they both visited Essex before they left, still I don't see the need for titles as they are not working royals anymore.  Status, egos, whatever..........all to up the ante if they want something.   

Essex and Sussex are two very different English counties, and don?t have that much in common with each other either. And as for territorial titles, you didn?t see the Cambridges constantly visiting the University city of Cambridge, nor do the Wales family spend all their time in Wales. Same for the Edinburghs, Yorks, Kents, Gloucesters and others, royal and not.

Essex - Wikipedia

Sussex - Wikipedia

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@Nightowl-Here's a good map of the counties found in England.
Counties of England (Map and Facts) | Mappr

[Curryong]

They are both sometimes considered part of the Home Counties, that is, counties very much bordering London and being partly subsumed by that city, though I really wouldn?t place Sussex or Berkshire or Buckinghamshire in that category. Essex certainly is.

From Wiki

The third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary (2010) defines the term as "the English counties surrounding London, into which London has extended. They comprise chiefly Essex, Kent, Surrey, and Hertfordshire.? Parts of all of those historic counties are, since 1965, officially within London, although no part of Berkshire, Buckinghamshire or Sussex is. The county of Sussex is also wholly outside, and Berkshire almost wholly outside, the route of the M25 motorway, which is often treated as an unofficial perimeter of Greater London, and some definitions mention that those counties are not always included amongst the home counties,[10] or that the term has been extended to include them.[1

[Curryong]

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/what-could-have-been-secret-royal-plan-that-could-have-prevented-megxit-revealed/news-story/9d8274b0d9c3539498195d806528937b

What could have been. A view from Valentine Low, no admirer of the Sussexes, who nevertheless points out that Africa could have been a marvellous solution.

?No matter who or when someone had the light bulb moment of sending the duke and duchess off out to find their bliss a whole continent away from the Palace, it would have been the perfect solution ? the duke and duchess could have escaped the spotlight to do the work they cared about.?

According to Low, things fell down because of issues with funding and security arrangements.

Meanwhile, in Spare, Harry writes that while the late Queen ?signed off?, his father had told him ?to put it in writing, which I?d done immediately. Within a few days it was in all the papers and caused a huge stink?.

However, just imagine how different things would look today if Out of Africa: Sussex Edition had come off. Spare would likely not exist and Harry and Meghan?s biggest Netflix concern would probably be Fergie having made off with their account password.

But

Low identifies Palace ?inertia? as being one of the points where things fell down in the lead up to Megxit and which contributed to le cataclysme Sussex. (Like the Big Bang but with more for mantras and phone calls to Oprah).

According to the Courtiers author, ?the first signs that things were going wrong with Harry and Meghan were evident about a year before they left?.

However, what was crucially lacking was that ?no one was really in charge of dealing with the problem. The people who worked immediately for Harry and Meghan ?[were] struggling to deal with it.?

?The people ultimately in charge of the palace ? Harry hated them and they hated Harry and Meghan, as they would certainly admit in private. There was no one person who [was] going to take charge of it and just take the situation by the scruff of the neck.

?I think it could have ended more happily. I think Harry and Meghan would still have left but it could have been dealt with a lot better.?

Instead, as we all know now, the situation was left to fester until things erupted, Vesuvius-?

The Queen?s PS at the time, Sir Edward Young, was one of those who ha**d Meghan and Harry. He appears as one of the three insects in ?Spare?. He was certainly no conciliator, no Sir Christopher Geidt.

[Nightowl]

@Nightowl-Here's a good map of the counties found in England.
Counties of England (Map and Facts) | Mappr

Gosh, got the Counties mixed up.......sorry about that.  I need new glasses here as I am typing blind. Thank you for the information on  both of them....anyhow they won't be back ever to the Firm so hope they find their pot of gold in Ca and learn to stop bad mouthing Harry's family.  They have shown us all their ugly side, so hopefully they can show us their good side......

[Nightowl]

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/what-could-have-been-secret-royal-plan-that-could-have-prevented-megxit-revealed/news-story/9d8274b0d9c3539498195d806528937b

What could have been. A view from Valentine Low, no admirer of the Sussexes, who nevertheless points out that Africa could have been a marvellous solution.

?No matter who or when someone had the light bulb moment of sending the duke and duchess off out to find their bliss a whole continent away from the Palace, it would have been the perfect solution ? the duke and duchess could have escaped the spotlight to do the work they cared about.?

According to Low, things fell down because of issues with funding and security arrangements.

Meanwhile, in Spare, Harry writes that while the late Queen ?signed off?, his father had told him ?to put it in writing, which I?d done immediately. Within a few days it was in all the papers and caused a huge stink?.

However, just imagine how different things would look today if Out of Africa: Sussex Edition had come off. Spare would likely not exist and Harry and Meghan?s biggest Netflix concern would probably be Fergie having made off with their account password.

But

Low identifies Palace ?inertia? as being one of the points where things fell down in the lead up to Megxit and which contributed to le cataclysme Sussex. (Like the Big Bang but with more for mantras and phone calls to Oprah).

According to the Courtiers author, ?the first signs that things were going wrong with Harry and Meghan were evident about a year before they left?.

However, what was crucially lacking was that ?no one was really in charge of dealing with the problem. The people who worked immediately for Harry and Meghan ?[were] struggling to deal with it.?

?The people ultimately in charge of the palace ? Harry hated them and they hated Harry and Meghan, as they would certainly admit in private. There was no one person who [was] going to take charge of it and just take the situation by the scruff of the neck.

?I think it could have ended more happily. I think Harry and Meghan would still have left but it could have been dealt with a lot better.?

Instead, as we all know now, the situation was left to fester until things erupted, Vesuvius-?

The Queen?s PS at the time, Sir Edward Young, was one of those who ha**d Meghan and Harry. He appears as one of the three insects in ?Spare?. He was certainly no conciliator, no Sir Christopher Geidt.

I really don't need a lecture on the Sussex's.........

[Curryong]

Why is this article a lecture, or indeed aimed at you?

I saw the article this morning and decided to link it here in the Team Sussex thread, which was set up in this forum for any news or articles favourable or conciliatory to the Sussexes. It?s not in the Iffy Wiffy thread.

And copying what Valentine Low states  (he wrote the anti Sussex book ?Courtiers?) and wrote, does not constitute a lecture on anything. Plus the journalist on AU NEWS who wrote the article publishing what Low said, isn?t a Sussex supporter at all, either.

[Nightowl]

I took it as a lecture as I get lots of lectures on the Sussex's.........well okay, whatever......you love them as we all know and I really can't stand them for all they do is *LIE* as we all know, so long comments don't sit well with me as I think I need new glasses..........moving on to the Food Guy and my Recipe Tin Eats and her dog Dozer.   Have you heard of them for they are in your country?