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wannable

The anchor of TV Talk is very disappointed, as one of his colleagues (journalist) died in Afghanistan, whilst a second was severely injured. I'm putting it here because it is very critical about H.

Debunking Harry's claim about the media's lack of care for the war, the soldiers, honoring them.

?He?s MANIPULATING Reality!? Prince Harry Accused Of ?Playing? To His ?WOKE" Following - YouTube


Curryong

Know all about Talk TV. Yet another supposed personality on a rightwing channel bleating about others being ?woke?. And none of the talking heads on any of those channels would say anything favourable about either of the Sussexes if their lives depended on it, so no surprise there! As for ?a colleague killed? well, any excuse to criticise Harry is better than none. 

TLLK

I have great respect for the Invictus Games and to the men and women who represent their nations at this sporting event. "Heart of Invictus" has wonderful stories shared of these athletes. However am frustrated by Prince Harry's false or exaggerated claims in the documentary and his need to air them in this film. Especially when his current statements contradict the ones he had made previously.

Regarding not receiving support.

QuoteClaim debunked: In two past interviews, Harry claimed that he received psychological support from the Army upon his return from Afghanistan, and also said his brother was pivotal in persuading him to seek therapy to deal with the impact of his mother?s death.

In a 2016 interview, Harry discussed the psychological support he received after serving in Afghanistan.

He said: "The Army put you through a day, two-day course on the way back through Cyprus, which is crucial to everybody."

The Duke went on to say that what they were told proved invaluable
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Quote from: wannable on August 31, 2023, 10:24:08 PM
The anchor of TV Talk is very disappointed, as one of his colleagues (journalist) died in Afghanistan, whilst a second was severely injured. I'm putting it here because it is very critical about H.

Debunking Harry's claim about the media's lack of care for the war, the soldiers, honoring them.

?He?s MANIPULATING Reality!? Prince Harry Accused Of ?Playing? To His ?WOKE" Following - YouTube



I have to admit that I  am very surprised that Prince Harry claimed that the British media had not been reporting on the wounded veterans of the  Afghan War. I understand that Prince Harry has strong feelings regarding the British media, however why would he make a statement like the one he did in "Heart of Invictus." That claim is clearly false as there was reporting on the war be television and print media. Also there was fundraising efforts as well. The Sun raised millions of pounds for the veterans.

Prince Harry attended The Sun's Millies ? but now claims media didn't care about wounded soldiers | The Sun

QuoteTHE Sun?s Millies became an annual TV event after being launched with a star-studded show hosted by Strictly Come Dancing?s Tess Daly in December 2008.

And Harry was at the event three years later when he shook the hand of Pte Jaco Van Gass, part of the Walking with the Wounded trek to the North Pole.In 2017, the prince joined the Queen in attending the unveiling of a memorial to Afghan heroes after The Sun raised ?1million from readers.

Our front pages have heavily featured the faces of many Armed Forces heroes.

Among those honoured at our awards was triple amputee Cpl Josh Boggi, who was given a Sun Military Award in 2013 for overcoming adversity after surviving an IED blast in Afghanistan.

Cpl Ricky Furgusson won the Life Saver Award at the 2010 Millies for risking death four times to help wounded colleagues, before he was blown up by a hidden Taliban bomb.

Prince Harry's controversial claims in latest Netflix documentary debunked | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Finally suggesting that it was the British press revealed that he was in Afghanistan.

QuoteClaim: When discussing his deployment to Afghanistan, Harry appears to suggest that his cover was blown by the UK media.

He said: ?The whole reason I was allowed to go to Afghanistan in the first place was because it was kept a secret.

?While I was there for the ten weeks no one knew apart from the British press who said '?we'll keep quiet as long as we get access'.

?To suddenly be on the way home I was angry. But it was important for everyone around me ? their safety ? to remove me?

Claim debunked: But news of his deployment was actually revealed by a US website and an Australian women?s magazine, who boasted a ?world exclusive? about ?Harry the Hero?.

Harry and Meghan are among the producers of "Heart of Invictus." Why would anyone permit Harry to make claims that are so easily proven wrong during this documentary?

Nightowl

I had hopes that the games would be about the men who fought the wars and who came home with severe injuries, yet Harry so far has made it about him and how he suffered......good grief, again talking about his mother.  Well that was to be expected as usual from him, he will never let that go as that is all he knows apparently.  What 10 years, so years down the road and that is still what he will talk about as if anyone will be listening.  Are people around him to darm scared of him to tell him to move on and grow up? Do they think being a royal prince makes Harry special.....it doesn't! He really lost his way and I just wonder what it is like living with him daily, stress is putting it mildly.  Glad to see the royal family moves on from Harry and Meghan.

Curryong

I don?t think that the army organising ?a day, two day course in Cyprus? when coming back from his tour in Afghanistan exactly counts as invaluable longterm psychological support, however Harry may have felt about it at the time. And as for the British media blowing his cover that may well have been what he was told by his senior officers at the time.


Curryong

Quote from: Nightowl on September 01, 2023, 03:02:02 AM
I had hopes that the games would be about the men who fought the wars and who came home with severe injuries, yet Harry so far has made it about him and how he suffered......good grief, again talking about his mother.  Well that was to be expected as usual from him, he will never let that go as that is all he knows apparently.  What 10 years, so years down the road and that is still what he will talk about as if anyone will be listening.  Are people around him to darm scared of him to tell him to move on and grow up? Do they think being a royal prince makes Harry special.....it doesn't! He really lost his way and I just wonder what it is like living with him daily, stress is putting it mildly.  Glad to see the royal family moves on from Harry and Meghan.

No the media has inferred that it was all about Diana in their reports on the documentary Heart of Invictus, and his prior appearances with reference to the doco. They also inferred that he supposedly took aim at the RF, which he did not do.

However very very little of the documentary or in his intro to it is Harry talking about Diana or his own sufferings in that regard. The doco is a five part series on Netflix. And Change has given a review here on this forum of the first two episodes. The documentary concentrates on the vets? stories.

TLLK

Quote from: Curryong on September 01, 2023, 03:05:20 AM
I don?t think that the army organising ?a day, two day course in Cyprus? when coming back from his tour in Afghanistan exactly counts as invaluable longterm psychological support, however Harry may have felt about it at the time. And as for the British media blowing his cover that may well have been what he was told by his senior officers at the time.



I just reread the chapter on Spare and found on page 149 that  Harry acknowledged that it was an Australian magazine had outed him and that it was reported on an American website (Drudge Report. )
Spare was released this year,  so I don't understand why he is trying to suggest it was the British media who "outed" his whereabouts in Afghanistan.

Curryong

What Harry actually stated was

From the DM

?Harry also complains about the media ruining his deployment to Afghanistan, saying: 'The whole reason I was allowed to go to Afghanistan in the first place was because it was kept a secret.

'While I was there for the ten weeks no one knew apart from the British press who said ''we'll keep quiet as long as we get access''.

'To suddenly be on the way home I was angry. But it was important for everyone around me ? their safety ? to remove me.'

Harry's cover was blown by the Drudge report in 2009 with a 'world exclusive' about 'Harry the Hero'.

And Harry and others might possibly be wondering how did a quite obscure US gossip outlet (or for that matter ?New Idea? in Aus)  get news of Harry?s whereabouts in Afghanistan. In 2009 the US media outlets almost always got any report about the BRF from British sources, ie Fleet St. So?..?

TLLK

The  British media stayed quiet throughout his deployment.  When they realized that New Idea and Drudge Report had revealed to the world his whereabouts,  the editors quietly informed BP and CH that his cover was no longer a secret. It was only afterwards that they like the other media around the globe reported on the matter.

My frustration with Prince Harry is that his false or exaggerated claims detract from his own story as a veteran  and  what should be a celebration of these athletes. Invictus Games is IMO  Prince Harry's most brilliant project to date, but he has a habit of self- sabotaging that has increased over the last years that has a wider impact than he seems to realize.

wannable

Quote from: TLLK on September 01, 2023, 01:01:15 AM
I have great respect for the Invictus Games and to the men and women who represent their nations at this sporting event. "Heart of Invictus" has wonderful stories shared of these athletes. However am frustrated by Prince Harry's false or exaggerated claims in the documentary and his need to air them in this film. Especially when his current statements contradict the ones he had made previously.

Regarding not receiving support.


I have to admit that I  am very surprised that Prince Harry claimed that the British media had not been reporting on the wounded veterans of the  Afghan War. I understand that Prince Harry has strong feelings regarding the British media, however why would he make a statement like the one he did in "Heart of Invictus." That claim is clearly false as there was reporting on the war be television and print media. Also there was fundraising efforts as well. The Sun raised millions of pounds for the veterans.

Prince Harry attended The Sun's Millies ? but now claims media didn't care about wounded soldiers | The Sun

Prince Harry's controversial claims in latest Netflix documentary debunked | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Finally suggesting that it was the British press revealed that he was in Afghanistan.

Harry and Meghan are among the producers of "Heart of Invictus." Why would anyone permit Harry to make claims that are so easily proven wrong during this documentary?

Recollections may vary, he stated in his 2016 interview the help, 2023 the opposite. ALL His claims were debunked in 12 hours. Changing an objective reality to a new subjective reality in his own world.


He strikes the British media, the Home Office, now the MOD - now whispering in Netflix is he is angry with the initial mixed reviews of his docu, the lack of media support in both countries; USA and UK about the docu.  He has himself to blame. He used to be so likable by everyone because it was a princely thing to shine a light on everyone but not him.  His new stance is to compare their stories to himself.  Episode 1 injured personnel talking about their limbs, he then says I didn't lose an arm, a leg, but I AM as hurt and suffered as you.  :ugh: It's like Meghan's Archetype podcast of comparing herself with the guests stories, me me me all over again.

wannable

HERO RAPS HARRY I've had your back for 15yrs Harry but youre wrong about media not supporting veterans, says maimed war hero Ben McBean
I've had your back for 15yrs Harry but you're wrong about media not supporting veterans, says maimed war hero Ben McBean | The Sun

An undisputed fact is the years of alcohol and drug abuse, Harry very likely can't remember long and mid facts of reality.

I would really like to have the entire testimony of his war against the media - the latest - Neil Sean is claming that the Mirror in the last day DID SAY that W had given a truckload of moneys from his settlement - a direct wire transfer to one of H patronages (Endeavour or Invictus?!), H was poker face, didn't say thank you, hasn't said thank you and apparently according to Neil - the top bosses are pressuring - will have to say thank you on stage at this coming Invictus. Let's see.

TLLK

More injured veterans are coming forward to dispute Prince Harry's claims made in "Heart of Invictus," regarding the British media's coverage of injured veterans.

Prince Harry's claim media didn't care about wounded British soldiers branded offensive by string of ex war heroes | The Sun

QuoteLord Dannatt, 72, was Chief of the General Staff when Harry served and brokered the news blackout deal which enabled his tour to go ahead. He seems to have completely forgotten that he was present at some of the events to honor injured veterans.

A year earlier he liaised with Help For Heroes charity founders Bryn and Emma Parry and won crucial Sun backing.

Lord Dannatt said: ?Being kind, I would say that Prince Harry?s recollections are not as clear as they might be.

"He may recall the support he and William gave to Help For Heroes in the early days given it was launched on October 1, 2007.

?There is no doubt that Prince Harry returning from his deployment to Afghanistan with injured soldiers brought a fresh focus to the sacrifice many families made.

?But his comments and that focus were one amongst many and there had already been a shift in public support for our service people.?

wannable

He has himself to blame, waged a war against the British media, especially the ones he has a grudge - and they are the only tabloids helping vets, he is waging a war against the Home Office, and now he is waging a war with the MOD.  Stateside he publicly announced his allegiance with the Aspen Institute, whom have been caught in their own web of lies in reference to free speech and disinformation - caught themselves doing no free speech and spreading disinformation.

IF he was liked, the documentary would have received FREE PROMOTION he was expecting in both countries, and it didn't happen.  A bit of the free promo at the BM, hence in the team sussex thread I said he should be grateful about that, despite trashing the same media that help the veterans and are under his suing siege.

Which government office is next? Other than he said the BRF forced him to work and travel for the Foreign Office.

This is also why I said yesterday he is being grey rocked. The abuse he is doing left right and center is enough for the top bosses to ignore him.  I do feel for the little people who are speaking out feeling offended; be it right or left or neutral. Making fun of a dead journalist because he belonged to a right wing media is so wrong.  It is upsetting and very rude to say the least.

Nightowl

This is becoming a big nightmare for the Sussex's, it seems they  want everyone to acknowledge how great they are and with *recollections may vary* is showing their many lies which will finally trum everyone against them.  They have *nobody* to blame but themselves, someone who isn't afraid to speak to Harry  really needs to speak the TRUTH to the so called Prince to get through to him and his wife. *Unbelievable*

Curryong

Concentrating, as are the media, on a couple of sentences Harry spoke about them in the first episode of a five hour, five part documentary series about wounded heroes. And Harry does NOT making it all about himself. He appears in Ep 1, (and not to any great extent) what about ep 2, 3, 4, 5, which concentrate on the stories of these brave men and women.

Harry was no doubt thinking about how the media concentrated on HIM and him alone when he was forced to return prematurely from his first tour of duty, and also about the way the MOD and the media used him in a documentary about him at Camp Bastian towards the end of his service there on his second tour of duty.

AND it would still be interesting to know exactly who told the Drudge Report about his being on service overseas..

TLLK

Quote from: Nightowl on September 01, 2023, 09:03:02 PM
This is becoming a big nightmare for the Sussex's, it seems they  want everyone to acknowledge how great they are and with *recollections may vary* is showing their many lies which will finally trum everyone against them.  They have *nobody* to blame but themselves, someone who isn't afraid to speak to Harry  really needs to speak the TRUTH to the so called Prince to get through to him and his wife. *Unbelievable*

I don't really view it as a nightmare, but as a disappointment/frustration.  :ugh: This is yet another self-inflicted wound from Prince Harry.

Invictus Games is IMO Prince Harry at his best and "Heart of Invictus" does highlight the inspirational stories of the veterans. I know its not currently in Netflix top ten, but I'm hoping that viewership will pick up when the Invictus Games begin.

The claim  that he makes in the documentary about the British media not reporting on the injured soldiers was simply untrue and easily disproved. It was not necessary to make the remark especially after he'd been present at the Milli Awards ceremony and had visited rehabilitation sites that had received funds from the fundraising efforts of the papers.

As for the suggestion that it was the British media who leaked his whereabouts, again he himself acknowledged in Spare that it was an Australian magazine (New Idea) and an American website (Drudge report).  :no: I can't understand why he chose to even bring that up in the documentary.

Personally I believe if he came out and made a statement that he "misspoke" especially about the British media not covering the injured soldiers,  it would be a step in the right direction IMVHO.

Nightowl

Well *time will tell* if Harry can come out and speak the truth, I won't hold my breath for he and Meghan have shown us just the type of persons they are........one lie after another for the last 3 years, just how can anyone justify that? The stress in his life and Meghan's must be out of this world. Thus is on them totally,  the royal family as they have nothing to do with this event. 

Amabel2


TLLK

Quote from: Amabel2 on September 02, 2023, 09:59:04 AM
what does anyone expect now from Harry but lies and nonsense.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the case now though I do wish that it wasn't.

Amabel2

Im afraid that teh Harry revealed in Spare is the real Harry, and he is very very far from the jolly soldier prince that he was seen as.  He is spiteful and nasty, and angry....

wannable

I don't know if he is ''aware or not'' about some of his own revelations that actually revealed his own character and at the same time the intention to hurt, embarrass and possibly other things in his mind about family members - it backfired to who he is ^ spiteful, nasty and angry. He (and the wife) is very antagonizing especially since I read a comment in the King's board, family group gatherings about why not Harry and yes Andrew.  The latter hasn't trashed his family nor written words giving an example of meetings - thinking he is going to win public approval - when in his own or ghost writer's words - it backfires because in the dialog if it wasn't H, it was M who were very rude or made up fantasy lies about life experiences.

Many of the passages and dialogs have been widely discussed here and worldwide.

Too sum up their life - this article is perfect.

Harry and Meghan's annus horribilis of karmic disaster: MAUREEN CALLAHAN's devastating analysis of how a string of crushing failures since the Queen's

TLLK

The Daily Mail made a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) for information on the Sussexes' trip to New York in the fall of 2021.

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Archewell team requested cushions, new carpet, and outdoor space to film Harlem elementary students for

QuoteNewly released emails have unveiled the extraordinary lengths Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's team went to pull off the couple's high-profile visit to New York City in 2021.

The files, obtained by DailyMail.com via a FOIA request, show how the Sussexes' high-powered aides had pulled strings behind the scenes to ensure they were presented in a positive light during a series of public appearances that were filmed for their $100million Netflix documentary.

For one of the stops in their three-day tour, representatives for Harry and Meghan raised the idea of bringing cushions and a new carpet to a public school in one of New York's low-income areas to better fit with Meghan's aesthetic.

The emails show Archewell staff had a say in which school they would visit, went through multiple edits of press releases to make their appearance sound 'more substantial,' and even amended the public diary for top school officials.

TLLK

Spotify founder Daniel Ek shares his thoughts on why the company parted ways with the couple.

Spotify Boss Breaks Silence on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Split


QuoteMeghan Markle and Prince Harry's $20 million Spotify deal collapsed as it did not live up to the hope it would make "consumers very happy," the boss of the streaming service has suggested.

The couple announced their podcast deal in December 2020 but produced just one 12-episode show, Archetypes, hosted by Meghan.

Daniel Ek was asked during a BBC interview whether the partnership was value for money, and revealed the company had hoped to shake things up with the marquee acquisition.

wannable

Eco-travel firm faces calls to axe patron Prince Harry after he used private jet owned by a Texan oil heir to fly to a Katy Perry concert
Prince Harry's eco-travel organisation under increasing pressure to sack its royal founder

The board of Travalyst, which the Duke of Sussex set up in 2019 when he was still a working royal, has maintained a wall of silence since news broke of his latest environmentally damaging jaunt. Last weekend, he and wife Meghan Markle took a 40-minute flight from an airstrip near their ?14.5 million Californian home to Las Vegas and back on a Gulfstream jet to watch Ms Perry's gig. The journey, which they shared with Hollywood star Cameron Diaz , came less than a month after they took a private Dassault Falcon 7X plane from New Jersey to the Caribbean paradise island of Canouan - described as 'a place where billionaires go to escape millionaires'- for a romantic break. In contrast, Prince William last week took a commercial British Airways flight to Singapore for his environmental Earthshot Prize ceremony.

Prince Harry's eco-travel organisation under increasing pressure to sack its royal founder after he used private jet owned by a Texan oil heir flew to

Nightowl

It is a good thing that at times regarding Harry and Meghan I am at a loss of words on their behavior, choices and decisions they make in their lives..and this is one of those times....... :lol: