The Iffy-Wiff Club: The Sussexes Legal Action Part 1

[Nightowl]

I think Harry finally broke the last link with the royal family, they must be reeling at this insanity of his. Now with this case finally finished Harry has all the time in the world to *Think* what he and Meghan have done and maybe learn from this situation.  Life in the UK and the royal family will go on as before and Harry is now very far removed from their lives.  This is all on him and Meghan, HM did say NO and when Charles took over he just followed his mother's way of saying NO. Best the royal family can do is *Just turn your back and walk away, never looking back* that works wonders.

[sara8150]

I think Harry finally broke the last link with the royal family, they must be reeling at this insanity of his. Now with this case finally finished Harry has all the time in the world to *Think* what he and Meghan have done and maybe learn from this situation.  Life in the UK and the royal family will go on as before and Harry is now very far removed from their lives.  This is all on him and Meghan, HM did say NO and when Charles took over he just followed his mother's way of saying NO. Best the royal family can do is *Just turn your back and walk away, never looking back* that works wonders.

You're right about that

[Kristeh-H]

I'm glad to see that the BBC has acknowledged that they should have questioned Harry more, given some pushback on his claims, and at least presented the other POV.  I hope other media outlets will also take note and not simply allow the Sussexes to make misleading or untruthful statements unchallenged.  Of course that means that H and M will stop giving interviews as they can't bear for "their" truth to be questioned.  Win-win!

I'm not going to post a link as the headline contains an expletive (starred out, but we know what is meant), but the Mail Online has an interesting article.  I know, it's the Mail.  But this one sounds true to me.  It says that Harry knew and had acknowledged that he was going to lose government-funded security by January 2020, at the latest, and he and the family were negotiating on who would pay for private security once he and Meghan had left.  The article says that Charles agree to pay their security costs for a year while the Sussexes were getting started on their new "independent" life.  If true, and I am inclined to think so, Charles was very generous and supportive of H and M.  I understand why Charles is so hurt and angry at the Sussexes' betrayal, the way they tell half-truths and complete un-truths, the sly way they imply ugly things, and how they make it sound as if they were kicked out into the street against their will. 

I can't blame Charles at all for not speaking with Harry.  He probably would like a reconciliation too, but if Harry refuses to take any responsibility for the situation and unjustly blames his father for everything, then reconciliation is impossible.  Again, the Sussexes are not trust-worthy.

[sara8150]

I'm glad to see that the BBC has acknowledged that they should have questioned Harry more, given some pushback on his claims, and at least presented the other POV.  I hope other media outlets will also take note and not simply allow the Sussexes to make misleading or untruthful statements unchallenged.  Of course that means that H and M will stop giving interviews as they can't bear for "their" truth to be questioned.  Win-win!

I'm not going to post a link as the headline contains an expletive (starred out, but we know what is meant), but the Mail Online has an interesting article.  I know, it's the Mail.  But this one sounds true to me.  It says that Harry knew and had acknowledged that he was going to lose government-funded security by January 2020, at the latest, and he and the family were negotiating on who would pay for private security once he and Meghan had left.  The article says that Charles agree to pay their security costs for a year while the Sussexes were getting started on their new "independent" life.  If true, and I am inclined to think so, Charles was very generous and supportive of H and M.  I understand why Charles is so hurt and angry at the Sussexes' betrayal, the way they tell half-truths and complete un-truths, the sly way they imply ugly things, and how they make it sound as if they were kicked out into the street against their will. 

I can't blame Charles at all for not speaking with Harry.  He probably would like a reconciliation too, but if Harry refuses to take any responsibility for the situation and unjustly blames his father for everything, then reconciliation is impossible.  Again, the Sussexes are not trust-worthy.

I'm agreed and you're right about that but King Charles is authorized for security but don't forget he is head of England but King Charles follow his mother's advice and tips but he and Camilla have 24/7 police protection plus escort and also William and Catherine plus kids have police protection and escort also in UK,Scotland,Ireland and Wales but Harry lose his police protection in UK but he cant have police protection in UK and Harry must pay police protection

But King Charles and Prince William both not speaking Harry anymore you know why?!? When William and Harry got rifts for six years not date to 2019 Harry wrote in his memoir the spare and William angry and William told Harry don't shipped to Buckingham Palace or Kensington Palace to heard about bombshell books

[Nightowl]

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I firmly believe that someday when Charles time is up and he passes over with this situation still the way it is, Harry is serioulsy going to regret it and that is when he will hit bottom and his family including Meghan will suffer the passing of Charles the rest of their lives. Harry right now is a loose cannon ready to take aim again at the royal family and do as much damage as he can, he is hell bent on their destruction as that letter shows his revenge.  I sure hope people in the royal family and those that work for them are aware of how out of control Harry really is and take precautions.

[PrincessOfPeace]

Lawyers for Prince Harry were back in court in London on Tuesday, days after he lost a legal fight with the government over his security arrangements and gave an emotional interview in which he said his father King Charles no longer spoke to him.

Along with singer Elton John and five other high-profile British figures, Harry is suing Associated Newspapers (ANL), the publisher of the Daily Mail tabloid, alleging widespread unlawful behaviour.

They accuse ANL of serious privacy breaches dating back 30 years, ranging from tapping their phones and bugging their homes to obtaining medical records by deception. Among those they say were involved are current national newspaper editors and other senior press figures.

ANL, which publishes the Daily Mail, the Mail on Sunday and MailOnline, has denied involvement in unlawful practices and described the "lurid claims made by Prince Harry and others" as "simply preposterous".

Reuters

[Kristeh-H]

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I firmly believe that someday when Charles time is up and he passes over with this situation still the way it is, Harry is serioulsy going to regret it and that is when he will hit bottom and his family including Meghan will suffer the passing of Charles the rest of their lives. Harry right now is a loose cannon ready to take aim again at the royal family and do as much damage as he can, he is hell bent on their destruction as that letter shows his revenge.  I sure hope people in the royal family and those that work for them are aware of how out of control Harry really is and take precautions.

I have to say, that in such a scenario, I don't think Harry would have any regrets.  Or more accurately, he might feel somewhat bad that there was no reconciliation, but I don't think he would accept any responsibility for the situation.  I have never seen Harry (or Meghan) ever take any accountability for their behavior or admit that they might bear any blame for the various family feuds with both sides of their families.  It is always someone else's fault, never theirs.  And Harry has never seemed to feel any remorse over the way he and Meghan treated his grandparents in their final years.   

[Curryong]

We know nothing of the inner workings of the Markle family. And as Samantha Markle is still in the process of suing her sister for defamation (a case she lost in the Florida lower courts but she is now pursuing on Appeal) I wouldn't have thought that she has held herself responsible in any way for the deterioration in her birth family or with her half sister, either. 

As for the BRF could you please point me to any statement made by King Charles, Queen Camilla, or either of the adult Waleses in which they have admitted any blame for anything said and done by them to Meghan or to Harry since the couple's marriage, including on one occasion physical assault. Because, apart from remaining as silent as the grave about bearing any responsibility at all I don't believe they have done anything to help or assist the situation. Unless you really think that Charles, Camilla, William or Kate's behaviour has always been scrupulously fair in absolutely every regard for the forty years of Harry's life that silence, that ignoring, that boycotting of a member of the family (and his wife), is just as self serving as the Sussexes in many people's eyes.

[Kristeh-H]

We know nothing of the inner workings of the Markle family. And as Samantha Markle is still in the process of suing her sister for defamation (a case she lost in the Florida lower courts but she is now pursuing on Appeal) I wouldn't have thought that she has held herself responsible in any way for the deterioration in her birth family or with her half sister, either. 

As for the BRF could you please point me to any statement made by King Charles, Queen Camilla, or either of the adult Waleses in which they have admitted any blame for anything said and done by them to Meghan or to Harry since the couple's marriage, including on one occasion physical assault. Because, apart from remaining as silent as the grave about bearing any responsibility at all I don't believe they have done anything to help or assist the situation. Unless you really think that Charles, Camilla, William or Kate's behaviour has always been scrupulously fair in absolutely every regard for the forty years of Harry's life that silence, that ignoring, that boycotting of a member of the family (and his wife), is just as self serving as the Sussexes in many people's eyes.

Samantha Markle is not the only member of her family that Meghan does not get along with. 

As for physical assault, I assume you are referring to Harry's claim that William pushed him down? I highly doubt that the incident--if it even occurred--happened exactly as Harry described.  Harry's memory 'curates as it sees fit' after all, and the Sussexes have made plenty of misleading statements.  If we're going to speculate, it wouldn't surprise me if William were cautioning Harry about Meghan, Harry became enraged and went to attack William (as Harry himself says that he did with his bodyguard), and William was pushing Harry away in self-defense.  Purely speculative, I admit, but that makes as much or more sense than Harry's version. 

I don't think the BRF are perfect at all.  But considering the false statements the Sussexes' have made, I think they are much more to blame.  I think Harry and Meghan's biggest problems with the BRF are that they aren't higher ranked and the Palace wouldn't agree to let them build a personal fortune on their titles.  Despite that, I think Charles might like a reconciliation, but knows that he can't give them what they want and that if he reaches out, anything he says might be splashed across international headlines--probably twisted and misleading yet again.  The Sussexes cannot be trusted not to sell out to the media and they brought that reputation on themselves.

[FanDianaFancy]

"They decided my life doesn't matter.

The one thing I did rely on is my family keeping me safe. Not only did they decide to remove my security in the UK but it also signals to every single government around the world not to protect us."

Henry is a very angry, bitter, sad, mad, man- child who is confused, delusional, wrong, and is just stupid.

His direct quote there from his BBC interview.
 1).   He does live in The UK and the children are never going there. Common sense. The mother will go where her children go or do not go. Megan does not want to go there.
Henry rarely goes there and the few times he alone or he and/ or Meggie  have gone there, they had UK security of RPOs, Metro Police, Scotland Yard, intell, whatever and everything because they , or Henry alone , were on BRF govt property.
 They were with high ranking BRF : QE, PC, WnC.
Qs Jubliee. Qs funeral. PPs funeral. The times Henry has gon alone, fir his many court cases for example, he could hav stayed in BuckPalace and had all tha security there, but he chose not to stay there.

 Again , again n again, ruling was on a case by case basis when he is there and/ or with his wife and/ or their children.

2) This statement proves it is not UK Metro, Intell he only wants because he rarely goes there, but he must get that security there to get IPP and then have any, other country he n Megan go to, to provide that country's top, govt security. As in other words, they want USA SecretService.

3) After immediately leaving rank as Senior BRF working royals, while in Canada, they had Canadian top govt security.
 Next, coming to USA, they had armed bodyguards. Well, Tyler Perr put them up a his house with his private security.
 See thing is, Henry then did not want to obviously pay for private security.
There is no reason they needed to borrow Perry's mansion and have him foot the bill for their security.
 Sussex could have rented a $15-25 million dollar home in BelAir, Calabassas, Monticito, Malibu and hired their own private security of armed bodyguards.
Celebrity entertsiners do this all the time between buying homes . The hire and pay for as much armed security 24/7 ,365 days a year as they want. Ex. Guards caught the deranged man who busted through Jennifer Anniston's gate of one of her homes just this week.
She was home at that time . Her security...on the ground...maybe on the roof...cameras...security room/ gatehouse, they were there and got the deranged individual ASAP.

YES, these private security companys of trained, armed, certified, skilled bodyguards and property guards do not come cheap.
 It costs millions of dollars a year. Private planes,this security, the company's big SUVs like Suburbans , limos, the motorcade, etc.

Sussex do not want that bill $$$$$$ if they can help it.
Then, like other celebrities, Sussex has to pay that  private security bill anytime  they want to travel.

[FanDianaFancy]

"They decided my life doesn't matter.

The one thing I did rely on is my family keeping me safe. Not only did they decide to remove my security in the UK but it also signals to every single government around the world not to protect us."

Since when does every country around the world protect celebrities/athletes/entertainers?
lol.
 Henry n Megan are celebrities.
They represent no govt like a US Ambassador, Pres of TUSA, PMs, etc.
H n M stepped down from English govt.representation/BRF.
It has been 6 years now.
 2020-2025.
Yes, these private security need security and they have that in TheUSA. Private hired security by them. As they travel abroad, their hired private security works with and within the law of that country's security.

Ex. Taylor and Beyoncé traveled the world and The USA a few times over within 2 years recently. They had their private security and bodyguards from and in New Orleans, LA USA to Orleans France. Paris, Texas to Paris France.

[FanDianaFancy]

"I can only come to the UK safely if invited. "

Henry has been in The UK many times since Qs funeral on his own. For his many court cases...a stop over on his way to Germany....wherever it was  for Invictus Games.
 

[FanDianaFancy]

I would like to think that by now and after all these years that Harry would grow up and realize what he has done to his family and the very people that used to just worship this young man.......he surely can not expect the perks and privilege of the working members of the royal family while he is no longer a member of the Firm and lives in another country for heaven's sake. Yet he hasn't for he still acts like a little spoiled man child not getting his own way.....it will be very sad to see him in time when he is an old man and still thinks the same way and acts the same way.

Anne, Sophie, Edward don't have that level of security unless at the job, so to speak.
Yes they have some security, govt security, surely at their homes.
 Maybe they pay for some private security there.

 Eug, Bea, Zara, Peter, Louise, James, etc. do not have RPOs, etc, kind of security. Yes, they must have private hired security of their own.

It is complicated.

 Henry can hire private security too when he is there, but that is not what he wants.
 He wants the other security thus , then allowing him to be able to get free govt security from other countries.

[FanDianaFancy]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14676685/meghan-markle-photo-prince-harry-bbc-interview.html
Article said will private conversations between Sussex and Palace no details about that

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14676773/living-nostradamus-prince-harry-bbc-interview-charles.html

https://people.com/prince-harry-claims-meghan-markle-not-given-security-until-he-intervened-11727541
Harry and Meghan will not allowed get 24/7 security guards in UK or USA if Harry and Meghan have security on their own and pay security

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/830035/king-charles-one-wish-after-prince-harrys-bombshell-confession/

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/829998/king-charles-makes-first-appearance-since-prince-harry-shock-interview/

His letter is really nice.
Oh pitiful.
However , it has half truths.
Other countries do not give him n Megan state run, govt security.

 The other half truths, I won't even bother to pick apart. Too many.