The Sussex Family General Chat Part 2

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TLLK

Quote from: HistoryGirl2 on March 20, 2023, 12:24:58 PM
^If this agreement never took place and it is in fact a lie, the Sussexes will put out a statement saying it?s a lie. So I?m sure we will find out soon enough if it?s not true or not.

I agree. I strongly believe that if the this was untrue that the Sussexes would respond with a statement of their own and possibly even launch legal action against the publication that first  shared the information. We'll just have to wait and see.
If the Sussexes don't respond, then we'll know that the agreement was satisfactory to both parties (landlord and tenant).

wannable

It took place, I posted the financial statement report on Frogmore, which matches the numbers. It was a good deal for both parties, the crown estate and the too early quitting pair.

changemhysoul

Another article about the Sussex's will they or won't they come which is fine, whatever.

What I find funny is one, once again, sources who complain about the Sussex's talking about also talk about private dealings with the Sussex's. Pot meet kettle.

Two, organizing two schedules.....which is funny to me because has stated by someone else we've been told they won't be ceremony, they won?t be on the balcony, they won't be invited to xyz event, they're not apart of the family, the family don't want to speak to them (which is fine, i don't need reasons why, we all know, doesn't matter), iceland, etc, yadda, yadda, yadda. so just find a place to put them behind a pillar so the camera can't see them and call it a day.

in fact, since they only want attention and etc as claimed, tell them their only seats are behind a pillar, they know they won't be able to use the event for whatever, they reject coming and all parties are happy knowing they won't have to deal with each other. everybody wins

wannable

The only one who has spoken directly about Coronation, working for the BRF/Commonwealth is Harry, translate that to desperate to comeback and be in.

From the BRF, an email to 'save the date' by a top BRF employee email address confirmed by the Sussex spokesperson.

changemhysoul

And as I said, for me, source's are pot = kettle

Harry isn't desperate to get back but we can agree to disagree. Being willing to work in the Commonwealth but rejecting the UK because of the media isn't despreate...to get back but that's in my view. Also, he didn't randomly say that, he was asked in an interview. Let's not leave out context, he isn't going from place to place saying "I want back in and etc" he was asked, what he would be willing to do.

I also didn't say that they didn't confirm they had a save the date-email but at least it was them not sources.

What I did comment on was this whole idea (because it's been referenced by more than one paper from the British media) that there are two plans depending on if they go or not. When the story has been no really wants them there anyway, so just find a pillar and sit them behind it or tell them they're going behind a pillar, they can reject coming and then all parties will be happy.

So it's a conversation about there's no need to make two plans or anything, since they won't be apart, just sit them somewhere or if they tell the Sussex's are all about taking the spotlight then tell them that they're going behind a pillar, they can reject coming and then no one has to worry about the day of.

wannable

He could have said 'no' to both questions, but he didn't, he actually expanded.

Invalidating sources, we wouldn't have historical accounts that turned out to be true in many instances. We also wouldn't have solved uniform cases by interviewing 'sources' (witnesses).

HistoryGirl2

Quote from: changemhysoul on March 23, 2023, 02:14:45 PM
And as I said, for me, source's are pot = kettle

Harry isn't desperate to get back but we can agree to disagree. Being willing to work in the Commonwealth but rejecting the UK because of the media isn't despreate...to get back but that's in my view. Also, he didn't randomly say that, he was asked in an interview. Let's not leave out context, he isn't going from place to place saying "I want back in and etc" he was asked, what he would be willing to do.

I also didn't say that they didn't confirm they had a save the date-email but at least it was them not sources.

What I did comment on was this whole idea (because it's been referenced by more than one paper from the British media) that there are two plans depending on if they go or not. When the story has been no really wants them there anyway, so just find a pillar and sit them behind it or tell them they're going behind a pillar, they can reject coming and then all parties will be happy.

So it's a conversation about there's no need to make two plans or anything, since they won't be apart, just sit them somewhere or if they tell the Sussex's are all about taking the spotlight then tell them that they're going behind a pillar, they can reject coming and then no one has to worry about the day of.

I do think it?s a contradictory (some might say desperate) to say that the ball is in their court and hope that they?re willing to sit down and have a talk before attending the coronation and then not have that happen and still consider going. On top of the lack of security he claims makes it impossible for his family to visit the UK.

While I?m sure the sentiment amongst a lot of the family is ?let?s place them by a pillar,? it?s too important an event to leave up to chance. This isn?t really strange. Contingency plans are in place for any big event.

wannable

#232
Let's just say no sources but Harry himself, no apology to Meghan, no attendance.

So, IF they show up, the sussexes will sell to Netflix they received an apology, If they don't attend, the family is racist.

As I said weeks ago, the couple have mastered con artist ways, they use every situation to make it a victory or a victimhood with whatever moves from the BRF, they use every single piece as Netflix worth content, it's a game for them.  Evil is evil, they need the money, they don't care if their popularity in both countries has gone down to negative numbers, they don't care if they are caught. They were caught out at the Oprah, they didn't shy away, they keep on going even if they are outed.

As long as the couple CAN get away with it, they will never stop, fact in psychology. The only stop can be by a uniform white or blue or death. Strong words but true.

changemhysoul

#233
Still, I say offer them the pillar and see the response.

I also like the idea of just zooming in, someone can even be in charge of pressing the top laptop down in curtesy fashion.

True or not, it's in very bad taste to say they can only be stopped by death when....they've had legit death threats against them, kids in included. '

And with that, I'll be bowing out of this conversation for a while because that's just crossing a line.

wannable

#234
It's a psychology fact about people with ''no boundaries'' living in the fast lane.  All of them live without a care about image, society, how will I look like.  Sorry if you got triggered.

I HAVE to add that the couple are a subject of discussion by serious medical websites and specialist too in areas of law and medicine.  So, it is not out of bounds to discuss what one reads.  That is why what I commented has been discussed and is a medical fact. Usually a normal person when caught, does shy away and never publicly lies again, but when a person does keep doing it, there is a serious problem of uniform or 6feetunder scenario.  I'm not inventing it, this is factual case studies documented worldwide since about 60 years ago.

wannable

Heritage lawyers in the USA will never EVER get the documentation from US immigration about Harry's Visa.  Let's just say that Harry is like the President son, Hunter Biden. Protected. Privilege. I can get away with it. I used my princely position son of a King. 

Amabel2

Why wouold his visa application become public?  Its unlikely that he's going to be sent home or refused a visa

Amabel2

Quote from: wannable on March 23, 2023, 03:21:38 PM
It's a psychology fact about people with ''no boundaries'' living in the fast lane.  All of them live without a care about image, society, how will I look like.  Sorry if you got triggered.

I HAVE to add that the couple are a subject of discussion by serious medical websites and specialist too in areas of law and medicine.  So, it is not out of bounds to discuss what one reads.  That is why what I commented has been discussed and is a medical fact. Usually a normal person when caught, does shy away and never publicly lies again, but when a person does keep doing it, there is a serious problem of uniform or 6feetunder scenario.  I'm not inventing it, this is factual case studies documented worldwide since about 60 years ago.
Dont know why you are bringing up  6 feet under, it is unkind and nasty IMO. and Harry and Meg DO care a lot what poeple think abouut htem, just they seem to have an elastic attitdue to the truth, like many people, and say what suits them at a given time. 

wannable

Do to the admission of coke, canabis and magic mushrooms.  The US forms have several questions about it. The US government made public 3 UK cases; 2 famous 1 random in the recent past historical. In the 3 cases, they can't apply for the next 10 years from rejection.

wannable

#239
Quote from: Amabel2 on March 23, 2023, 03:53:51 PM
Dont know why you are bringing up  6 feet under, it is unkind and nasty IMO. and Harry and Meg DO care a lot what poeple think abouut htem, just they seem to have an elastic attitdue to the truth, like many people, and say what suits them at a given time. 

Meghan said she was suicidal.   It doesn't matter if you believe her or not. After reading several medical experts, the belief can be; she was suicidal because of BRF bad treatment OR she gave out bad treatment (Bower and Low her bad treatment to royals and staff, whilst the 2 Sams and a Jason were actually recording it all) to an extent that she can be suicidal. Option Megxit. and let the bomb explode thousands of miles away.

HistoryGirl2

#240
I would find it quite unprofessional if BP just said, ?Whatever, stand by that trash can and we won?t make any considerations?. The reason for that is because this event isn?t about Meghan and Harry. This is an event that hasn?t happened in England since 1952. They?re not going to leave anything up to chance for fear that it could jeopardize smooth sailing the day of or the days leading up to it. And for what? A petty attempt to get back at two people who aren?t even working members of the RF?

They?ve done the professional thing to do when someone that has special requirements delays an RSVP. Plan as if they?re coming. Now, I?ll give Harry and Meghan the benefit of the doubt and say that this delay is about making sure the safety requirements are met, and the staff is working behind the scenes to see what can be done about it.

But I?ll still say, it?s rather strange to even consider going after making it clear that from your perspective, you?ve done all the right things and the family is just upset that you?ve called them out on everything they?ve done wrong. Especially considering it?s your son?s birthday and you?re thrilled to no longer be in the clutches of such a racist (beg your pardon, *unconsciously biased*) and unbending institution. All I?ve personally seen is the RF and BP kind of reacting to their erratic and inconsistent actions, I?m not seeing any instigation on their part.

wannable

The onus isn't on Charles or William. The Sussexes are invited. They also are playing the game, killing them with kindness. Whatever the Sussexes do, they earn money by selling content but with a price of getting disliked by more people, that army is growing.

wannable

#242
I'm full on 'no sources' straight from the horses mouth in reference to Harry Coronation/Commonwealth and Meghan with her Suicidal thoughts.

Just in case, I'm in no war with the RIF community, I'm just taking the pot, the kettle, the sources suck so, here we are.

BP sent an email
Harry is negotiating HIS and the family participation, hence my latest comment the onus is not on Charles or William.  Harry's negotiations are being media published,   it helps to gauge the public interest and sentiment, unfavorable by the way. It is not going as Harry wants it to go. Will expand on a later date.

My only admittance is I do discuss via whatsapp the royals and the sussexes with a fleetstreet friend we discovered each other via facebook after studying highschool together, there will be certain things I will not comment or any furthering about certain issues that get people triggered or angry.

Harry and Meghan are not grateful with just an invitation, when Harry decided he has to ALSO negotiate, call it hostage or blackmail, the press called it out NOT ME...now google hostage or blackmail negotiations...there are 3 type cases from criminals to mental illness derranged people.

wannable

The New York Post really has it on them.

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Why Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are driving four hours to hang out in Hollywood

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle could have easily used a secret ?celebrity door? when they arrived for dinner at one of Los Angeles? most exclusive private clubs.

Instead, a source said, the couple were happy to walk up to the front entrance of the San Vicente Bungalows, a chic West Hollywood hotspot owned by hotelier Jeff Klein, where they were caught on camera by waiting photographers.

It's their time, if they wanted to drive 8 hours to and from, day completed.

Curryong

Quote from: wannable on March 26, 2023, 12:19:56 AM
The New York Post really has it on them.

It's their time, if they wanted to drive 8 hours to and from, day completed.

It is THEIR time and money. Nobody else?s business. And how does the NY Post or other enquirers know how the Sussexes get to LA and back? They could have had private business in the city for two or three days, driving up one day and driving back a couple of days later.

They could have ?gasp? even flown to LA and back by plane or helicopter. They could have been staying with friends there for a few days. And they also had and have the right to use whichever door to the club they felt like using.

Sheesh, what a thing to sneer about. As if newspaper executives and personalities never have the spotlight, or attend expensive clubs!

Princess Cassandra

Quote from: wannable on March 23, 2023, 05:06:23 PM
I'm full on 'no sources' straight from the horses mouth in reference to Harry Coronation/Commonwealth and Meghan with her Suicidal thoughts.

Just in case, I'm in no war with the RIF community, I'm just taking the pot, the kettle, the sources suck so, here we are.

BP sent an email
Harry is negotiating HIS and the family participation, hence my latest comment the onus is not on Charles or William.  Harry's negotiations are being media published,   it helps to gauge the public interest and sentiment, unfavorable by the way. It is not going as Harry wants it to go. Will expand on a later date.

My only admittance is I do discuss via whatsapp the royals and the sussexes with a fleetstreet friend we discovered each other via facebook after studying highschool together, there will be certain things I will not comment or any furthering about certain issues that get people triggered or angry.

Harry and Meghan are not grateful with just an invitation, when Harry decided he has to ALSO negotiate, call it hostage or blackmail, the press called it out NOT ME...now google hostage or blackmail negotiations...there are 3 type cases from criminals to mental illness derranged people.
I don't understand why it is appropriate to negotiate. This situation is certainly not how the King or anyone else ever imagined it to be, but the reality is that it isn't possible to make arrangements to fit everyone's satisfaction. The King must be very sad and disappointed, and I feel for him that the Coronation will be marred by all that is going on. But I don't think it is right to make matters worse by trying to meet Harry's wants and expectations.

PrincessOfPeace

The Telegraph reporting Harry is not expected to see his father while he is in the UK as he was told the King was "busy"

Princess Cassandra

Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 27, 2023, 12:02:00 PM
The Telegraph reporting Harry is not expected to see his father while he is in the UK as he was told the King was "busy"
Interesting! i am wondering if the trip to France having been cancelled, the King might have taken advantage of the unexpected empty diary to take on a project at Highgrove or just try to relax and restore his spirits. Or perhaps there is much more to it than that - perhaps it has something to do with Harry. Probably we won't be told about it in any case.             

Amabel2

I cant imagine why Charles woudl be expected to be eager to see Harry, he is a busy man and he must know that every meeting with H is likely to be fraught.  He will see him soemtimes but I dont think he will do it unless he's pscyhed up to do so.

TLLK

Quote from: Princess Cassandra on March 28, 2023, 02:57:14 AM
Interesting! i am wondering if the trip to France having been cancelled, the King might have taken advantage of the unexpected empty diary to take on a project at Highgrove or just try to relax and restore his spirits. Or perhaps there is much more to it than that - perhaps it has something to do with Harry. Probably we won't be told about it in any case.             

I've read that KCIII and QC are currently at Highgrove as their calendars would have been cleared for the State Visit. The King will have his red boxes to attend to, but  this is an unexpected and likely well appreciated break in their schedule.