Books written about and by the Sussexes Part 3.

[Curryong]

Nobody knows what is in another?s heart. I believe Harry loved his grandmother. You don?t and that?s fine. However I would just point out a couple of things. Harry left the UK and that saddened his grandmother. She still regarded him as a much-loved grandson and said so in a public statement. I believe she loved him until the end as well. And she knew Harry and none of us commenting on him do. She knew him. We don?t.

As for Prince Philip, Giles Brandryth, a great friend of his, talked to him in those last months before he died. And Philip expressed his bewilderment at Harry and Meghan?s decision but then said that people must be allowed to do what is right for their own future. So, in spite of the fury of others on their behalf these two very old people were quite philosophical about Harry and Meghan. 

I don?t think that people who diagnose others they don?t know as drug addicts and alcoholics have any credibility at all. And doing it from afar, not having met the person at all and with no medical training as a Counsellor in the area or as a fully qualified psychiatrist, doubly so. Nor do I invest any credibility in the Twitter mob either. They are likely to hook on to anything and believe, until the next thing comes along.

[FanDianaFancy]

He didn?t pay anything to live at Nott Cott. Neither did William or Kate, by the way. None of the Queen?s other grandchildren have lived at Nott Cott. It has been used in the past as a staff cottage.

Harry didn?t moan about living at Nott Cott as a single man. He does comment that, as an over six footer, the ceilings were very low and that was awkward. They knew that Nott Cott would be too small for them when their baby came and so FC was provided.

You aren?t suggesting surely that the couple paid nothing for FC? They paid back the over 3 million pounds the renovations cost, something the then Cambridges didn?t have to do for their huge KP apartment by the way. The Sussexes are also paying a monthly rent for FC as well and will continue to do so.

The only compare and contrast in the book comes when he and Meghan visit his brother and wife at KP and note the huge number of antiques, beautiful furniture and paintings and contrast it with the way they were living in Nott Cott. Most other royals are allowed some antiques and paintings from the Royal Collection (Princess Margaret for example was loaned several pieces) but the way the Cambridges were living was particularly lavish.

Harry wanted to go and see his grandmother one last time because he felt particularly close to her, especially over the last few months. Death had taken away his mother and grandfather and was now swooping on his grandmother. Harry loved his grandmother, regardless of how others think he felt, and he wanted to be there. 

Oh please Curry. Gotta love you  for supporting anything and everything they do with sweet excuses.
William n Cath lived in NC and they are they are not 5?1 or 4?8. , lol. Ok.
Living in Anglesey?? Where?Wales?  That?s not quite London in KP or Paris , lol.Someplace sophiscated, cosmopolitan. This is not an insult to the people there either. 
QE had 6 adult grandchildren all close to her. Peter was her eldest and first grandson. Truly this honor with William, because of his rank, should have his. Ohhhhbooooowhooooo??..Henry?s mummy n daddy got divorced?blahblah. Peter n Zara folks divorced and their went n made a new family. Ohhhhhhh, so so sad, his mommy died. Awwwww?..
QE , I think of grandaughters, Zara was most close. She was the 2 nd eldest. The honor should have gone to the PHillips.

Henny $0.00 for NCott and FC as Willy paid $0.00 for NC and AHall, KP..
I get that. That is the point. $0.00. These two ingrates

Henny paid back for FC to the fund AFTER public, media outcry, he was leaving.

[FanDianaFancy]

William had a lavish , extremely spacious home at KP. As heir.  As father of 3 although he was granted KP before all three children were born, it was known he was having a growing family. As married man . As husband and father.
Married Willie and Katie did not have that one day or for them to live in before they married.

Everyone knows BRF is very , outrageously wealthy that is of the Monarch and minor children.
However everyone knows, being a representative of the govt, they are celebrity showy. William n Catherine cannot fly off to Vegas, baby and pop bottles in VIP  area and shake their bottoms. The Kardsahians can. JLo and Ben can. They earn their money on their own and it nor their time is not owed to a single , solitary soul  on this planet.

As a single man , HenyOenny was not going to get some major property of living space. Nor did Eug, Bea, William

[Curryong]

I mentioned William and Kate living at Nott Cott in my first sentence of my post. I said none of the OTHER grandchildren lived there. Peter and Zara are untitled, non working royals and not the children of the heir to the throne. Harry is fifth in line to the throne now but at the time he moved in to Nott Cott he was third, is that what you were trying to say?

Being one of the only two children of the Prince of Wales makes a difference. God knows how far Anne was in the line of succession when Harry moved in. She?s behind her three brothers and their children. And Zara and Peter are even more far away.

And William and Kate lived off base in a large house when they were in Anglesey. I remember seeing photos of it. It was hardly typical married accommodation on base.

Harry paid for the FC renovations because he wanted a primary residence in Britain as per Counsellor and wanted to return some time.  The Press spruiked FC as a wedding gift to the couple from the Queen at the time they moved in. Some gift! Just pay 3 million towards renovations will ya! In spite of the fact that we know you absolutely loved the Cotswolds better!

How much did W+K pay outright for that 21 room apartment at KP again? Lol!

[Curryong]

Btw, record breaking sales for ?Spare?. I knew pre-order sales were high and now this.  Long may it continue.

Prince Harry's Memoir Spare Smashes Publisher's First-Day Sales Record

[Nightowl]

Nobody knows what is in another?s heart. I believe Harry loved his grandmother. You don?t and that?s fine. However I would just point out a couple of things. Harry left the UK and that saddened his grandmother. She still regarded him as a much-loved grandson and said so in a public statement. I believe she loved him until the end as well. And she knew Harry and none of us commenting on him do. She knew him. We don?t.

As for Prince Philip, Giles Brandryth, a great friend of his, talked to him in those last months before he died. And Philip expressed his bewilderment at Harry and Meghan?s decision but then said that people must be allowed to do what is right for their own future. So, in spite of the fury of others on their behalf these two very old people were quite philosophical about Harry and Meghan. 

I don?t think that people who diagnose others they don?t know as drug addicts and alcoholics have any credibility at all. And doing it from afar, not having met the person at all and with no medical training as a Counsellor in the area or as a fully qualified psychiatrist, doubly so. Nor do I invest any credibility in the Twitter mob either. They are likely to hook on to anything and believe, until the next thing comes along.

There can NO SPIN on how Harry loved or treated his grandparents, ever.  If you love someone like your grandparents that you grew up all your life and was there for all those family events then you treat them with RESPECT period. Harry did NOT treat his grandparents with respect, HM was his grandmother, she was from another generation that gave to her grandchildren all the love in her.....as that is what she learned as a child.  Harry is an ADULT, well in body he is an adult in mind he is a simperingly evil little boy playing at being an adult. He is such a worthless piece of human garbage much like a former president and that idiot in Russia.....ego manics out of control.   NO I don't know him personally yet from what I see and read, oh those interviews really cast him in a bad light for the world to see, Harry is a bomb exploding all over the place and everyone can see it, Boy BP sure has done a number on him all these years in cleaning up his garbage way of life....so he TRUTH, his way of life and what was in it has shown full circle now.......reactions, he should hide his face in shame and why say that the BRF is campaigning now against him......another LIE, if anything the BRF is being very quiet and calm within their own lives and that right there I think is making Harry very angry at them, they won't do tit for tat like he wants. 

So what is next now.....more TV interviews, more books, more what?  Shutting up would be a start. Yet that won't give him millions now would it? 

[wannable]

The ghostwriter today has officially sent a defense in reference to the litany of incosistencies in the Spare memoir using two quotes:

The line between memory and fact is blurry, between interpretation and fact. There are inadvertent mistakes of those kind out the wazoo. Mary Karr

Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember as there is in so called objective facts. Things like chronology and cause and effect are often just fables we tell ourselves about the past. Harry, DOS, Spare.


^In one way it's good to clarify that Harry's recollections vary, the bad is that in the process of telling his recollections he is hurting third parties and it is not based on objective facts. 

We can't cherrypick the accusations he has thrown to Charles, Camilla, William and Kate because the foursome will not do an interview.  Many other parts of the book it's quite easy to fact check.

[wannable]

After Harry's over saturation, here's a comic relief from John Crace, he is the Parliamentary sketch writer.

?I was alone. Abandoned. With only a hundred million in the bank? ? Spare, digested by John Crace | Books | The Guardian

[sara8150]

William had a lavish , extremely spacious home at KP. As heir.  As father of 3 although he was granted KP before all three children were born, it was known he was having a growing family. As married man . As husband and father.
Married Willie and Katie did not have that one day or for them to live in before they married.

Everyone knows BRF is very , outrageously wealthy that is of the Monarch and minor children.
However everyone knows, being a representative of the govt, they are celebrity showy. William n Catherine cannot fly off to Vegas, baby and pop bottles in VIP  area and shake their bottoms. The Kardsahians can. JLo and Ben can. They earn their money on their own and it nor their time is not owed to a single , solitary soul  on this planet.

As a single man , HenyOenny was not going to get some major property of living space. Nor did Eug, Bea, William

Yes Prince William and Catherine live Kensington Palace based in London but he and Catherine can afford house nearby Windsor Castle and Sandringham im respect that

I understand that William and Catherine must have security 24/7 in London,Wales and mores for travel

Before William and Catherine have children lives in Wales for years and both decided to become full time royals work with late Queen Elizabeth and members of royal family

BUT Harry did big mistakes for trips to Vegas and embarrassing himself in the taboilds
 

[sara8150]

I mentioned William and Kate living at Nott Cott in my first sentence of my post. I said none of the OTHER grandchildren lived there. Peter and Zara are untitled, non working royals and not the children of the heir to the throne. Harry is fifth in line to the throne now but at the time he moved in to Nott Cott he was third, is that what you were trying to say?

Being one of the only two children of the Prince of Wales makes a difference. God knows how far Anne was in the line of succession when Harry moved in. She?s behind her three brothers and their children. And Zara and Peter are even more far away.

And William and Kate lived off base in a large house when they were in Anglesey. I remember seeing photos of it. It was hardly typical married accommodation on base.

Harry paid for the FC renovations because he wanted a primary residence in Britain as per Counsellor and wanted to return some time.  The Press spruiked FC as a wedding gift to the couple from the Queen at the time they moved in. Some gift! Just pay 3 million towards renovations will ya! In spite of the fact that we know you absolutely loved the Cotswolds better!

How much did W+K pay outright for that 21 room apartment at KP again? Lol!

Yes when William and Catherine got married they lives in Wales for years before children but both move to KP based office and home and also nearby Windsor Castle and nearby Sandringham also im respect that but William and Catherine have security 24/7

[TLLK]

An interesting article from a therapist who expresses concerns about the number of therapies that Prince Harry seems to be moving from and his expectation that others' behaviors need to change.

How much more therapy does Harry need to realise there is no ?truth? when it comes to family?

[Nightowl]

That is a very good article and Thank you for sharing it with us.

Could Harry be using his therapy as an excuse for his behavior these past months?  I think it is more than that..way to much booze and drugs will make you believe anything and also very paranoid.  Something is not right with Harry besides being angry at his family, it is more than that as he is showing us.

[FanDianaFancy]

The good thing, best thing is he wrote his little novel.
KC, William, Catherine n Camilla too, must know now, no point of return.

Anytime, anyday , any communication with them for him and Meg is money making ammunition.

Next, he and Meg are celebrities, famous fir being famous.
The people get fickle , move on.
Yes Sussex have their fans. That base is their , but not big enough .
  Look for two more books, interviews about the BRF from them gir a price. It us theur mobey maker, schnitck.

Harry had a good week on the USA  pr , in the spotlight .

Now, LisaMariePressly has died. She was just the GoldenGlobe Awards on Tuesday looking very premature old, bad. Well, loss of her son ( suicide) and and an awful divorce with him,the crumb, trying to get money, are good reasons why.
Next story up hapoened in Harry?s week. I guess he will blame her for taking his thunder, his spotlight.

[TLLK]

The Half-Madness of Prince Harry - WSJ- An opinion piece on Spare.

Prince Harry?s book is odd. There?s even something half-mad about it.
He opens with a dramatic meeting at Frogmore, his former mansion on the grounds of Windsor. It is just after the death of Prince Philip, Harry?s paternal grandfather. For months Harry has been estranged from his father, Charles, and his brother, William?a ?full-scale public rupture.? Harry has flown in from America and requested a meeting. The day is overcast, chilly. Charles and William arrive late looking ?grim, almost menacing,? and ?tightly aligned.? ?They?d come ready for a fight.? Harry is tongue-tied, vulnerable, leaves heartbroken. ?I wanted peace. I wanted it more than anything.?
You feel such sympathy. What could have driven them so far apart? Why are Charles and William so cold? Then you realize, wait?Philip died just a month after the Oprah interview in which Harry rather coolly portrayed his family as remote and hapless puppets and implied they were racist.
Harry forgets, in the opening, to tell us that part. But you can see how it might have left Charles and William a little indignant.This is the book?s great flaw, that Harry doesn?t always play it straight, that he thinks ?my truth? is as good as the truth. There are other flaws, and they grate. There?s a heightened-ness to his language?he never leaves a place; he flees it ?in fear for our sanity and physical safety.? He often finds his wife ?sobbing uncontrollably? on the floor and the stairs, mostly over what he fails to realize are trivial things. He is grandiose: ?My mother was a princess, named after a goddess.? ?How would I be remembered by history? For the headlines? Or for who I actually was?? Lord, he was an attractive man fifth in line for a largely ceremonial European throne; it would hardly remember him at all. (Unless he wrote a scalding book and destabilized the monarchy!) He repeatedly points out that he?s a Windsor and of royal blood. His title means a lot to him. He is exhibitionistic: ?My penis was oscillating between extremely sensitive and borderline traumatized.? (Frostbite.)
There are gaps in his knowledge-base that wouldn?t be irritating if he weren?t intent on establishing that he?s giving you the high-class rarefied inside dope. ?Never complain, never explain? has been an expression of the old American upper class since forever, and I?m sure the British one too. It isn?t special to the Windsors. ?An heir and a spare? is old Fleet Street tabloidese. It doesn?t mean, as he suggested on book tour, he was bred for body parts.
Famous families often have internal communication problems. The children of those families learn much of what they know from the many books written about the clan. They internalize and repeat observations and stories that aren?t quite right but are now given their insider imprimatur. Harry?s anecdotes tend to undermine the institution of the monarchy. When he was a teenager Britain?s biggest tabloid told the palace it had evidence he was doing drugs. In fact, as Harry tells us candidly, he did do drugs when he was young. The palace, no doubt knowing this, opted to ?play ball? with the newspaper and not deny all aspects of the story. This made Harry feel thrown under the bus.
His father, he believes, used him as a ?sacrifice,? to appease a powerful editor and bolster his own sagging reputation. ?No more the unfaithful husband, Pa would now be presented to the world as the harried single dad coping with a drug-addled child.? He reports Charles and his wife, Camilla, were jealous of William and Kate?s ?drawing attention away from them.? His stories of jealousy sound like projection. But they also make the book feel less like ?Clown Turns on Circus? than something more deadly, especially just before Charles?s coronation this May.
Harry accuses the tabloids of violating his privacy, and no doubt they often did. What is almost unbelievable is that he is so unmoored and destabilized by this inevitable aspect of fame, especially royal fame. He implies he left Britain primarily because of the newspapers and their criticism of his wife.
But the odd, half-mad thing about this book is that in it he violates his own privacy, and that of others, more than Fleet Street ever could. He is careful throughout to say he is telling his story in order to help others, those who?ve struggled with mental illness or been traumatized by war. It is hard to know another person?s motives; it can be hard to know your own. But I don?t think this book is about others. I think it?s about his own very human desire for revenge, to hurt those who?ve hurt him. And to become secure in a certain amount of wealth. And to show his family and Fleet Street that their favorite ginger-haired flake could make his own way, set up his own palace, break free, fly his own standard, become the duke of Netflix.
This book is classic Fredo: ?I can handle things. I?m smart. Not like everybody says, like dumb, I?m smart and I want respect!?
It is all so contradictory. He says he wants reconciliation but writes things that alienate, he says he reveres the monarchy and isn?t trying to bring it down but he has gone beyond removing bricks from the facade and seems to be going at the bearing walls.
I close with a thought on privacy. Prince Harry violates his own. He tells us too much about himself and others.
Once there was a reigning personal style of public reticence about private pain. You didn?t share it with everybody, and you didn?t use it for advantage or as a weapon: I have known pain, you must bow before me. The forces of modernity have washed away the old boundary between public and private. It isn?t good. It?s making us less human even as we claim to be more sensitive. But fully mature people still have a sense of their own privacy, they keep to themselves what is properly kept to oneself. Privacy isn?t some relic of the pre-tech past, as I said once, it is connected to personhood. It has to do with intimate things?the inner workings of your head and heart, of your soul. You don?t just give those things away. Your deepest thoughts and experiences are yours, held by you; they are part of your history. They are part of your dignity. You share them as a mark of trust. This is true intimacy, not phony intimacy but the real thing.
If you tell all the strangers your secrets what do you tell your intimates?
A friend said the other day: ?Most of the forces in the world are pushing toward exhibitionism and calling it honesty. The assumption is if you keep things to yourself you have something to hide.? But you aren?t reserved out of shame, you are reserved out of a sense of your own value and self-respect. And it doesn?t leave you alone; it means you are part of something larger, a whole world of distinct souls.
You shouldn?t violate your own privacy, not for attention or admiration, and not for money. It?s a mistake. And it won?t heal you.

[Curryong]

Ah yes, a columnist of, shall we say, a certain age, as she was once a speechwriter for Ronald Reagan, a US President who served some time ago. And a columnist for a journal of a um conservative readership rather than otherwise. Not, one would say, a natural ally of a Californian couple of liberal leanings. Just a weeny bit of bias, more than a touch of prejudice colouring her opinions on Harry, then. Nuff said!

[wannable]

Certain age? Can't people of a certain age have opinions? I find her opinion piece spot on.

Harry doesn't always play it straight

She's not the only one who has noted it, all RR's and extending now to other 'section' journalists have found by fact checking that he slags people, but before the slagging there was an ''incident'' that leaves out the objective fact of context to his moaning, groaning, claims. Like what Peggy starts of as an example in her article.  Harry left out that his grandfather had just passed away, 1 month before he did the Oprah attacking his family or agreeing with all the Meghan trashing, what human being family member (Charles and William) will be cool with that? Of course they were tense, tight.

That Harry at this point in time/life thinks no one will fact check/fact finder the inconsistencies or the half stories he tells, it's a backlash to himself.

My ***** was oscillating between extremely sensitive and borderline traumatized. (Frostbite.)

Peggy is being nice here, she didn't mention that in the book he proceeded to fix the frostbite with a brand cream whilst Diana was watching him.  That is not half madness, that is full madness.  Listening to the audio book with his voice is vomit inducing. It should come with a ''warning''.

[Curryong]

Well, here is another article, coming from a different angle and speaking about lasting grief. As I lost my mother at much the same age as Harry did (and yes it has affected my whole life in various ways) as the author describes.

What Prince Harry's memoir Spare tells us about 'complicated grief' and the long-term impact of losing a mother so young

[wannable]

She is generalizing (all good informative) as a Social Worker and Health Researcher.

She recommends patients to speak with the family (climax of her article), then she concludes (conclusion of the article)  that there is no right or wrong way to express his grief. So basically everyone who has a Harry type problem, can do it however it pleases them. 

No one stopped Harry from doing what he has done to date by expressing his grief.  Sarah mentions the danger of 'stopping' someone, which isn't the case of Harry.

What is a social worker do?

Social workers help people cope with challenges in their lives. They help with a wide range of situations, such as adopting a child, being diagnosed with a terminal illness, or preventing and treating substance abuse.

A health researcher is responsible for conducting surveys and analyzing data and lab results in order to gain a better perspective of a population's health. They uncover trends, risks, and other factors, such as whether biology, behavior, society, or the environment play a role in a population's health

[Curryong]

I know what a social worker is. I?m newly retired from having been being employed as one for decades. There has been very little compassion given from the host of commentators and media or understanding of long term grief on the psyche. And Charles?s reaction after telling his 12 year old son that his beloved mother was dead was to leave the room! Words fail me!

[wannable]

In the process of Sarah's social worker and health researcher opinion piece, it is a generalization of Harry's grief.  She generalizes too that no one should stop the patient's way (s) of expressing such grief.

So, I gather she is fine with Harry trashing his family publicly.

Do I agree? I find her article as I stated Informative, but it doesn't mean I agree 'entirely'. She isn't a therapist, publicly hurting third parties with whatever list of mental health illnesses Harry has, trashing the family isn't one of them.

I do agree with the ''different angles' of articles in Re to Harry, including psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists opinion (s) piece based on their profession.

[sara8150]

Have you read Harry's book? William and Charles keep dignified silence despite attempts to quiz them | Daily Mail Online

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Awkward moment William and Kate ignore blatant question about Harry's book on royal visit - Mirror Online
Prince William and Catherine will not comment about Harry?s book its private matters,private business and family matters but Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace always kept silent not back to last December due Harry?s Netflix not without palace attorney present

[wannable]

?This is not about trying to collapse the monarchy, this is about trying to save them from themselves?

Bryony Gordon's interview with Harry at Montecito.

He says he has enough/more explosive material for a second book, enough to blow William and Charles.

He wants to save them from themselves, he wants to save Charlotte and Louis.

He wants William to do a psychedelic drug trip with him

^ William stay strong, don't answer back, the silence is killing this psychopath and his delusions of grandeur.

[wannable]

Prince Harry exclusive: ?There?s enough for another book ? I cut memoir in half to spare my family?

^ Victoria Ward opinion about the above interview

[PrincessOfPeace]

He's absolutely repugnant. What a disgusting person Harry has become.

[TLLK]

?This is not about trying to collapse the monarchy, this is about trying to save them from themselves?

Bryony Gordon's interview with Harry at Montecito.

He says he has enough/more explosive material for a second book, enough to blow William and Charles.

He wants to save them from themselves, he wants to save Charlotte and Louis.

He wants William to do a psychedelic drug trip with him

^ William stay strong, don't answer back, the silence is killing this psychopath and his delusions of grandeur.

Thank you for sharing the link so posters can have the opportunity to read this long article. I found it incredibly sad to read.