Books written about and by the Sussexes Part 3.

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wannable

#75
January 11, 2023, 01:42:48 AM Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 01:54:43 AM by wannable
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on January 10, 2023, 08:38:23 PM
I know some people don't really care about dates and numbers but not getting it right when your grandmother died and the like is odd. When you want to be credible, getting your dates correct is a big deal.

Drugs/Alcohol produce memory loss, if abused, permanent. During memory loss, the ability to form recollections worsens.  Having said that,

Harry explained how the school celebrates birthdays, the usual in many private schools, a cake, comes a parent to deliver a birthday gift.  Fergie appeared as Diana had passed away 2 weeks earlier August 1997, said the gift was from Diana, Harry said it was an XBox. 

Xbox was invented 2001.

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Harry claims that Henry VI was his Greatx7 grandfather. 

Henry VI only child was killed, in the Wars of the Roses. Edit to add: This is the literal point of the Wars of the Roses. 



Okay he failed history but but but where are the fact checkers, hello anyone.

Curryong

#76
January 11, 2023, 02:16:18 AM
In the book Harry jokes about the Founder of Eton, Henry VI and then about ?King George who had the boys for tea over at the castle. Something like that.? End quote. It was obviously a joke.

wannable

#79
January 11, 2023, 02:27:46 AM
For what it's worth, educated guessing here the in parenthesis, would he be referring to King George III. I would almost think KGIII had to do with Eton. But plain KG.

Curryong

#80
January 11, 2023, 02:35:21 AM Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 02:48:05 AM by Curryong
I?ve read years ago that Sarah brought Harry a posthumous 13th birthday gift bought in Paris by his mother before she died.

Diana was killed in a car crash on Aug. 31, 1997; her funeral took place on Sept. 6; and then the school term started. Lady Sarah went to visit Harry at Ludgrove for his 13th birthday, on Sept. 15, bringing him the PlayStation that Diana had already bought for him in Paris, and she would continue to visit both boys at their respective schools. (Harry joined William at Eton in 1998.)

Note Lady Sarah, not Fergie.

wannable

#81
January 11, 2023, 02:47:43 AM
''I was also, most often, alone. I liked people, I was gregarious by nature, but just then I didn't want anyone too close. I needed space.

''Days after my return I had a birthday. September 15, 1997. I turned thirteen. By long-standing tradition there would be a cake, sorbet, and I was allowed to choose two flavours.'' (He then said he received the gift from his mom by ''Aunt Sarah'').

''I tore at the wrapping paper, the ribbon. I peered inside. 'Mummy bought it for you. Shortly before...' It was an Xbox. I was pleased. I loved video games.

^ My point is Harry's memory is failing. Xbox was invented November 2001, the release date for that gaming console March 2002. Harry couldn't have received an Xbox 1997. 

There must be a lot of inconsistencies and bad recollections in his book, I'm just sorry there weren't fact checkers to help him and his ghostwriter.

wannable

#82
January 11, 2023, 02:57:12 AM
Like literally and technically Harry was 2 weeks to turn 13, rather than what most people who discuss Harry (and Diana) making it sound he was 12 flat. He was 12, but 11.5 months from 12  is ''time'' that one is alive and growing.  Even in academic and sports competition when there is a ''age limit' the clause is year of birthday, so if he was in a let's make believe competition age limit 12/1997 he would be sent to competition for age 13 to 15, just saying, there is a reason for this.

Princess Cassandra

#83
January 11, 2023, 03:07:21 AM
Quote from: Nightowl on January 11, 2023, 12:06:00 AM
Regardless of how many books are sold, it is still a book of *LIES* and for those that bought the book to support his lifestyle foolish are those that want to waste money on LIES. So have at it people, I have a *real* tiara of HM's to sell you.....it is worth more than a book of lies....LOL and not for one second do I believe all the money from the books will go to a charity ......no way in ....whatever!  Meghan needs her $5 grand dresses Harry.
People are curious because so much has been made of it. SO much drama all around the Sussexes. I doubt the book will have longevity....no doubt it will be abundant in used book sales.

Curryong

#84
January 11, 2023, 03:37:06 AM
From Channel 9?s correspondent

The book is already the top-selling book on Amazon's UK site, which like many big retailers is offering it half price, and is expected to be one of the year's biggest sellers.
John Cotterill, non-fiction buyer at the Waterstones bookstore chain, told trade magazine The Bookseller that Spare was "one the biggest pre-order titles of the last decade for Waterstones."

Nightowl

#85
January 11, 2023, 03:42:16 AM
Quote from: Curryong on January 11, 2023, 12:38:20 AM
Harry has never said that ALL the money from the books will go to charities. Not even any of the RRs have stated that Spare is a book composed of all lies!

And nobody wants any tiaras!!


Yet it is still a Book of Lies regardless....that is the way Harry rolls, nothing is ever his fault, heck they even married 3 days before the *real* wedding (which is a LIE) and the real wedding was what.......fake?  Just one of dozens and dozens of LIES, didn't Meghan's mother teach her not to LIE? Guess not....oh more and more and more people are questioning Harry's drug use...it is spreading like wild fire on the internet. Boy what a mess he has made of his horrible life as a royal prince yet so happy in his life as a non working royal prince...all the while looking miserable.  I chuckle at his saying..I am happy! Yep, happy with his daily dose of weed!

FanDianaFancy

#86
January 11, 2023, 04:57:36 AM
No shocking news that his book, scathing tell all and more, is a hit. Big seller.

Infamous man. People love watching the drama of the car crashes, trainwrecks.


then what? Next?

Well he wants to see William, KC for new ammunition.

Meg, if she should write her story, it would be bigger in sales than his book.

Henry the fool earned his tens of millions .
He does have big expenses he never had before, bills, lol. House payment, utilities, taxes, taxes, security, etc. his whole upkeep for him n family.

TLLK

#88
January 11, 2023, 02:03:58 PM
Here's a review of Spare from The Economist.

Prince Harry?s autobiography is an ill-advised romp | The Economist

QuoteWhat is the most embarrassing moment in ?Spare?? Is it when Prince Harry describes how he lost his virginity to an older woman who ?smacked my rump? and used him ?not unlike a young stallion?? Or when he talks about his frostnipped ?todger?? Or when he reveals that Meghan calls her pet dogs?British readers, look away??fur babies?? Or, or, or?
Distance, Harry explains at one point in this book, ?between Yourself and Them??which is to say between Us and Him?is ?an essential bit of being royal?. But there is no distance here. None. You even get the freckles on his body as he strips naked and is checked for ticks at Balmoral.
When leaks from ?Spare? started appearing on January 5th, a mood of delighted disbelief settled on British newsdesks. Royal correspondents used to subsisting on crumbs?an innuendo buried in six hours of anodyne Netflix nonsense here, a plucky first day of school for Prince George there?suddenly found themselves glutted by revelations on everything from how many Taliban (25) he killed in Afghanistan to his ?nether regions?. Best of all, these came not from press skulduggery but were offered up voluntarily by Harry for cash. The press had an embarrassment of riches; Harry had the riches of embarrassment.
In one way, this book is fun. Penguin, the publisher, had threatened a ?literary memoir?; happily ?Spare? is nothing nearly so dull. Its literary style is manly thriller. Its sentences are simple; troubling thoughts occur to Harry in an italic font; paragraphs are short and punchy.
For effect. It is, in short, a romp. And obviously the access is excellent. Alan Bennett once wrote a novella about the queen in which he imagined the humdrum side of royal life, and this book does Bennettian humdrum better than Bennett. You learn that footmen served the young princes their tv dinners under silver domes, like kings in a cartoon; that his granny made a mean salad dressing; that King Charles III does headstands against a door in his boxers to help his back.
It is all very engaging. But it also feels somehow iffy. ?Autobiography,? George Orwell once wrote, ?is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful?since any life when viewed from the inside is simply a series of defeats.? This book manages to feel both like a series of defeats and somewhat untrustworthy at the same time. Things are rarely just Harry?s fault. A decision to go to a fancy-dress party as a Nazi is explained away by saying that he was merely following the orders of Herr und Frau Obergruppenf?hrer William and Kate. They look the sort. Camilla is a scheming villain; Charles is a duffer; an editor is a ?pustule?. Only Meghan??she?s perfect, she?s perfect??is exempt.
For all the romps, and the rumps, this book feels less like a lark than a terrible miscalculation. Harry, as he points out himself, is the creature in the gilded cage. Presumably he hoped that by writing a memoir, he?d set himself free. The cage isn?t fashioned by the royals, however, but by the eyes of the audience. By revealing so much, all he has done is draw the bars in closer. The Firm would have stopped him from producing a book like this. And that would have been a service.

PrincessOfPeace

#89
January 11, 2023, 02:15:28 PM
In every review I've read, they all make the same point, nothing is ever Harry's fault. Harry is always the 'victim'.

wannable

#90
January 11, 2023, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: TLLK on January 11, 2023, 01:13:42 AM
Just to clarify MC is shared a photo from one of the local booksellers' displays.  Sorry if there was some confusion as she herself didn't create the display.  There appears to be a few booksellers that are creating interesting displays pairing Spare with other books.

She can express whatever she wants. Her feelings about royals, ex senior working royals is not 'shock and awe' effect.  She's been subtle reactionary.

wannable

#91
January 11, 2023, 04:52:04 PM Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 05:05:18 PM by wannable
Another inconsistency, Harry said Meghan purchased a first class ticket for Thomas with Air New Zealand Mexico/London

Air New Zealand was contacted today, they don't operate Mexico/London, never have, and much less have first class anywhere, only Business class.


*****

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'It was no palace': Prince Harry admits he was 'EMBARRASSED' to show Meghan Markle his two-bedroom Christopher Wren-designed  Nottingham Cottage home in the grounds of Kensington Palace - and reveals the Suits actress likened it to a 'frat house'

So from the long list of occupants, these two moan and groan (for everything).  The worst part is people (initially) around them fell for their fretting (trap) and were given what they wanted or a solution, after 1 year at Not Cott, they moved to Frogmore Cottage.  They created havoc and never content with anything...

There are many IF they had exercised humbleness, patience and the sort, but it simply isn't their type of character/behaviour. 

I know the reviews in its majority have been unfavorable, but the above believe it or not of their 'housing' has caused a massive loss of Gen Z via social media ex defending warriors. So, I suppose ''housing'' is a great factor in real day to day life of 99% of this new generation that are stuck with their parents or extended family rooftop.

FanDianaFancy

#92
January 11, 2023, 05:39:43 PM
Our like comment to click on is no longer here. @wannable , I am coming right behind you.

Prince Harry admits he was 'EMBARRASSED' to show Meghan his Nottingham Cottage home | Daily Mail Online

Hmmmm. Can some reporter ask him, the ungrateful, stupid, triflin, spolit brat Prince Harry, how much did he pay for Nottingham Cottage?
How much did he pay for monthly utilities, taxes?
How much is a small, adequate , decent apartment in London?
why did he feel Nottingham Cottage was beneath him for him as a single man and for him and Megan to live in before marriage as FC was selected for them and was on the agenda to get renovated to their wants, needs?
Why is it many of the Qs other grandchildren were given the grace and favor of NC, including WillCatherine, but it was awful, terrible for him?
Where did he think he  should have lived?

Another questions. When QE passed away, he was informed, rightly so as QEs other grandchildren were told. He issued a statement that he and the Duchess were on their way to Balmoral. Doesn?t he think it was wrong for him to go to Balmoral? Why did he even need to go to Balmoral?

Curryong

#93
January 11, 2023, 08:00:16 PM

The extended interview with Stephen Colbert. The audience were chanting his name.

And, people were waiting outside to see and greet Harry before the show. I read it elsewhere.

Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex Talks #Spare with Stephen Colbert - EXTENDED INTERVIEW - YouTube

Curryong

#94
January 11, 2023, 08:56:25 PM
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on January 11, 2023, 05:39:43 PM
Our like comment to click on is no longer here. @wannable , I am coming right behind you.

Prince Harry admits he was 'EMBARRASSED' to show Meghan his Nottingham Cottage home | Daily Mail Online

Hmmmm. Can some reporter ask him, the ungrateful, stupid, triflin, spolit brat Prince Harry, how much did he pay for Nottingham Cottage?
How much did he pay for monthly utilities, taxes?
How much is a small, adequate , decent apartment in London?
why did he feel Nottingham Cottage was beneath him for him as a single man and for him and Megan to live in before marriage as FC was selected for them and was on the agenda to get renovated to their wants, needs?
Why is it many of the Qs other grandchildren were given the grace and favor of NC, including WillCatherine, but it was awful, terrible for him?
Where did he think he  should have lived?

Another questions. When QE passed away, he was informed, rightly so as QEs other grandchildren were told. He issued a statement that he and the Duchess were on their way to Balmoral. Doesn?t he think it was wrong for him to go to Balmoral? Why did he even need to go to Balmoral?

He didn?t pay anything to live at Nott Cott. Neither did William or Kate, by the way. None of the Queen?s other grandchildren have lived at Nott Cott. It has been used in the past as a staff cottage.

Harry didn?t moan about living at Nott Cott as a single man. He does comment that, as an over six footer, the ceilings were very low and that was awkward. They knew that Nott Cott would be too small for them when their baby came and so FC was provided.

You aren?t suggesting surely that the couple paid nothing for FC? They paid back the over 3 million pounds the renovations cost, something the then Cambridges didn?t have to do for their huge KP apartment by the way. The Sussexes are also paying a monthly rent for FC as well and will continue to do so.

The only compare and contrast in the book comes when he and Meghan visit his brother and wife at KP and note the huge number of antiques, beautiful furniture and paintings and contrast it with the way they were living in Nott Cott. Most other royals are allowed some antiques and paintings from the Royal Collection (Princess Margaret for example was loaned several pieces) but the way the Cambridges were living was particularly lavish.

Harry wanted to go and see his grandmother one last time because he felt particularly close to her, especially over the last few months. Death had taken away his mother and grandfather and was now swooping on his grandmother. Harry loved his grandmother, regardless of how others think he felt, and he wanted to be there. 

Curryong

#95
January 11, 2023, 09:13:47 PM
From Wannabie
Another inconsistency, Harry said Meghan purchased a first class ticket for Thomas with Air New Zealand Mexico/London

Air New Zealand was contacted today, they don't operate Mexico/London, never have, and much less have first class anywhere, only Business class. End quote.

Sussex staff  may well have purchased tickets for Thomas to go to London with two different airlines, one to get him out of Mexico to an LA airport, and then one from LA to London by NZ airlines.

They wanted Thomas to get to London to be away from the Press which was besieging him and offering him money to act the way the tabloid Press wanted. We know Meghan sent him an email beginning with ?Do you want us to come and get you? We can arrange for someone to pick you up now?.?? because they were among the emails and texts she provided to the court during the DM privacy case.

Only, Thomas didn?t want to go. He replied that ?he had things to do?.? Why it?s expected that Harry would provide the exact details (ticket numbers etc) in a book of memoirs I don?t know. An autobiography isn?t a court affidavit.

And what is called business class in airline travel in Aus and NZ is called ?first class? by British people. I know that myself because I wished to fly back to the UK after 10 months due to the illness of a family member and asked about first class as I didn?t want to spend 24 hours cramped up with my knees practically under my chest. I was told by Qantas that there was only business class.

wannable

#96
January 11, 2023, 09:30:20 PM
I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies in Harry's book Spare. 


''We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now,''

''Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.''

:laugh10:

All travel sites will offer the 'best' routes and airlines that frequently operate from Mexico to London, Air New Zealand is not even a choice. Harry has opened Pandora's Box with his drug taking.

Curryong

#98
January 11, 2023, 10:30:33 PM
Quote from: wannable on January 11, 2023, 09:30:20 PM
I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies in Harry's book Spare. 


''We told him, leave Mexico right now: A whole new level of harassment is about to rain down on you, so come to Britain. Now,''

''Air New Zealand, first class, booked and paid for by Meg.''

:laugh10:

All travel sites will offer the 'best' routes and airlines that frequently operate from Mexico to London, Air New Zealand is not even a choice. Harry has opened Pandora's Box with his drug taking.

Yes, the anti Sussex brigade always have it that Harry is a druggie. Carry on thinking that, people.

And in my life I must have read at least 500 autobiographies, biographies and histories written by professional authors and historians. At least 75% of those I?ve read have contained errors or one sort or another. Sometimes jaw dropping ones. So if Harry made a mistake about which company his wife booked an air ticket from for his father in law, he is in good company.

Nightowl

#99
January 11, 2023, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 11, 2023, 08:56:25 PM
He didn?t pay anything to live at Nott Cott. Neither did William or Kate, by the way. None of the Queen?s other grandchildren have lived at Nott Cott. It has been used in the past as a staff cottage.

Harry didn?t moan about living at Nott Cott as a single man. He does comment that, as an over six footer, the ceilings were very low and that was awkward. They knew that Nott Cott would be too small for them when their baby came and so FC was provided.

You aren?t suggesting surely that the couple paid nothing for FC? They paid back the over 3 million pounds the renovations cost, something the then Cambridges didn?t have to do for their huge KP apartment by the way. The Sussexes are also paying a monthly rent for FC as well and will continue to do so.

The only compare and contrast in the book comes when he and Meghan visit his brother and wife at KP and note the huge number of antiques, beautiful furniture and paintings and contrast it with the way they were living in Nott Cott. Most other royals are allowed some antiques and paintings from the Royal Collection (Princess Margaret for example was loaned several pieces) but the way the Cambridges were living was particularly lavish.

Harry wanted to go and see his grandmother one last time because he felt particularly close to her, especially over the last few months. Death had taken away his mother and grandfather and was now swooping on his grandmother. Harry loved his grandmother, regardless of how others think he felt, and he wanted to be there.

Loved his grandmother?  That is one of the biggest LIES he has told, IF he wanted to see his grandmother he could of flown to her from the IG when he was there promoting them after he was done.  If again he wanted to see his grandmother he could of just got on a private plane and flown to her. The way he treated his grandparents is DESPICABLE and that is out there and on Harry and Meghan for the way she made fun of curtsying to HM after her death....how anyone can say he loved his grandparents is beyond me.  Doing the *great Oprah Interview* while his grandfather lay dying, that is called *loving your grandfather*.  Of all the LIES and more LIES he keeps telling and fans keep accepting as the truth is why he is being blasted on the internet.  Harry is a darn DRUGGIE and ALCOHOLIC and that is why is so out of control.  I have been in touch with a ranking member of AA and we discussed behavior patterns and ways druggies hide their drugs and booze.   I can tell you if that was someone making fun of my grandmother they would be picking themselves up off the floor if they could even get up. And for Harry to sit there smiling while she did that is showing how EVIL Meghan is, wonder if she would like someone doing that to her mother?
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