The Coronation

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Curryong

#277
Oh Yes? Well, we?ll see whether Cruise gets an invitation first, lol! If he does (and personally I think these reports are typical made up tabloid rubbish) then there will be many indignant MPs, members of the judiciary, Lords Lt of counties, prominent British actors close to the royals etc etc who, having missed out, will be demanding an explanation.

Curryong

#278
Well, went hunting for where that bit of rubbish about Tom Cruise came from and guess what, an Express story from last November and Neil Sean claiming that Cruise will be given some sort of role at the forthcoming Coronation, following a claim of his after the Queen died that Elizabeth was so fond of him that he would surely be there at her funeral. Guess the star misplaced that invitation!

?He said: "You may have heard a friendship developed so much so that Tom was invited firstly to tea with Her Majesty The Queen and then for an informal lunch."

He noted that Tom was a "good associate of the late Duke of Edinburgh" but he's also a "major major royal fan".

Mr Sean also noted that, allegedly, it "looks like Tom could be given some kind of, not just invite, [but a] certain role within the forthcoming coronation.? End quote.

King could be set to invite 'royal fan' Tom Cruise to forthcoming coronation - claim | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Tom Cruise?s royal connection might put him on Queen Elizabeth II funeral guest list: expert | Fox News

wannable

I wouldn't be surprised, 70/30 that Tom will be included in some role, more likely at the 2nd day of 'celebrations', Windsor Castle with all the other arts and entertainment people, like the Queen's Platinum Jubilee; The Service of Thanksgiving was royals, government, charities, everything else had arts and entertainment world, Tom was at the 1st program of that Platinum Jubilee as one of the hosts - 'A Gallop Through History' at Windsor castle.

The Coronation per se is a solemn event, the other 2 'celebration' days mirror the Jubilee.


LouisFerdinand

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Curryong

#282
Quote from: wannable on February 08, 2023, 01:20:54 PM
I wouldn't be surprised, 70/30 that Tom will be included in some role, more likely at the 2nd day of 'celebrations', Windsor Castle with all the other arts and entertainment people, like the Queen's Platinum Jubilee; The Service of Thanksgiving was royals, government, charities, everything else had arts and entertainment world, Tom was at the 1st program of that Platinum Jubilee as one of the hosts - 'A Gallop Through History' at Windsor castle.

The Coronation per se is a solemn event, the other 2 'celebration' days mirror the Jubilee.

Tom Cruise was reported by Neil Sean to be having a role at the actual Coronation (not at the bits celebrating it afterwards which all show biz people who are invited to participate in various events do) which is plainly ridiculous. And his American accent while taking part in the Windsor Gallop through History thing was noted by many British people who wondered what he was doing there anyway.

Equally ridiculous was the prediction that Cruise would be a guest at the late Queen?s funeral, almost as if he?d been welcomed in as some part of the extended RF in the last year or so. It didn?t happen, did it, like the majority of the rest of Sean?s ?predictions?.

I?m quite willing to believe that he could be hosting this or introducing that BEFORE or AFTER the Coronation ceremony, as many actors, singers etc will be, but to infer, as Sean did, that Cruise is going to play a role in the Coronation itself or even be an attendee at the ceremony as some kind of close family friend, is just fantasy talk.

He?s an American actor who?s met a few members of the BRF while promoting his new film at the same time. Nothing more, nothing less. And his talk of having so much in common with William, ?We both fly?, and Sean?s suggestions that he and the late Queen were somehow bosom buddies so Charles is his friend, just imo makes them both look and sound like idiots, which again, imo, isn?t too far off the mark!

This is what Sean said, from that November newspaper report I linked yesterday.

hear also that Tom Cruise has been in touch with senior royals after his spectacular stint on the world's stage at the Platinum Jubilee celebrations and, of course, the royal premiere of his box office rocket, "Top Gun: Maverick."

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Something tells me that Tom will indeed be on the guest list for the funeral of our greatest Queen Elizabeth. End quote.

Well, that ?something? was incorrect, wasn?t it, not unusual with this gossip raker, and ?spectacular stint? at the Jubilee?! Gimmee a break!

And

The number of guests for King Charles' coronation has been reduced from 8,000 to 2,000 as the new sovereign seeks to curb royal expenditure. Although the final guest list is currently unconfirmed, royal expert Neil Sean has claimed that Charles is reportedly keen to invite Hollywood star, Tom Cruise to his coronation next year, after the star developed a sweet friendship with the King's late mother, Queen Elizabeth II, particularly in her final few months.

That piece was about the coronation guest list not the entertainment afterwards. Keen to invite Cruise! Yeah, right!

TLLK

#283
(The DM article below is a summary of Katie Nicholl's article that is found in Vanity Fair, but I couldn't find it.)
I believe that this is what most royal watchers are expecting should one or both of the Sussexes accept the invitation to KCIII's coronation. We already know that modifications are being made to the service ie: Only the Prince of Wales will be kneeling and swearing fealty to the King.

The Sussexes like the York family (DoY, the York sisters and their spouses) and Prince/Princess Michael of Kent will likely be seated with those members of the the BRF who do not undertake senior royal duties.


Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'to be treated like Beatrice and Eugenie' at Charles' coronation | Daily Mail Online

QuoteWriting in Vanity Fair, royal expert Katie Nicholl said that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry would potentially take on a role similar to Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie in proceedings.

Describing how they would be less visible, she explained: 'Now that they are no longer working royals, the Sussexes can expect to be treated the same way as Harry?s cousins Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who attend important family occasions but are not in the spotlight and do not appear on the Buckingham Palace balcony.

Curryong

#284
That?s Katie Nichols? opinion. We don?t know if anyone will be swearing fealty or whether that part of the ceremony has been cut. In fact nobody knows where anyone in the family will be seated and that includes this journalist.

And the difference between Harry and the other non working royals is that he isn?t a younger brother, niece, nephew, second cousin etc but one of the King?s only two offspring. If you are going to dump one of your two adult children among the number of near and other more distant relatives in the third or fourth row simply because the British media believes you should, then imo that says more about you and how you feel about your child than anything else. Charles has already had a reputation as a distant parent for years since his sons were young. Something like Nichols suggests will only reinforce it.

From the article

The monarch, 73, was met with cheers as he stepped out of his black Rolls Royce at the premises this afternoon.

As the royal greeted members of the institution who were standing outside the building, a student in the crowd was heard yelling: 'Please bring back Harry!'

At first, the monarch did not hear what the member of the public and asked a member of his team for clarification. An aide told him: 'Harry, your son.'

Appearing unbothered by the mention of the Duke of Sussex - who unleashed fresh bombshells on the Royal Family with his memoir Spare last month - King chuckled and said: 'Oh.'

wannable

It is fine second row section B. He can be the center of his own universe in montecito

wannable

The 3 day coronation has one name.

Tom only sent a formal condolences to Kensington Palace

Curryong

Quote from: wannable on February 09, 2023, 12:38:13 AM
The 3 day coronation has one name.

Tom only sent a formal condolences to Kensington Palace

A Coronation is a coronation. The entertainment before and afterwards are part of the Coronation celebrations. Nobody, in Britain anyway, would call a pageant or concert etc before or after the ceremony in the Abbey The Coronation. That would just be considered strange.

That article discussed seating and the guest list for the Abbey Coronation. The journalist understood what Sean was referring to, just like the Queen?s funeral Tom was supposed to attend according to Sean, and didn?t.

And who cares who actor Tom Cruise sent condolences to. The RF got thousands of condolences from all over the world. Cruise?s was nothing special, however friendly with the BRF he and Neil Sean like to paint it.

TLLK

#288
Quote from: Curryong on February 08, 2023, 11:24:40 PM
That?s Katie Nichols? opinion. We don?t know if anyone will be swearing fealty or whether that part of the ceremony has been cut. In fact nobody knows where anyone in the family will be seated and that includes this journalist.

And the difference between Harry and the other non working royals is that he isn?t a younger brother, niece, nephew, second cousin etc but one of the King?s only two offspring. If you are going to dump one of your two adult children among the number of near and other more distant relatives in the third or fourth row simply because the British media believes you should, then imo that says more about you and how you feel about your child than anything else. Charles has already had a reputation as a distant parent for years since his sons were young. Something like Nichols suggests will only reinforce it.

From the article

The monarch, 73, was met with cheers as he stepped out of his black Rolls Royce at the premises this afternoon.

As the royal greeted members of the institution who were standing outside the building, a student in the crowd was heard yelling: 'Please bring back Harry!'

At first, the monarch did not hear what the member of the public and asked a member of his team for clarification. An aide told him: 'Harry, your son.'

Appearing unbothered by the mention of the Duke of Sussex - who unleashed fresh bombshells on the Royal Family with his memoir Spare last month - King chuckled and said: 'Oh.'

Yes it's Katie Nicholl's opinion on the seating arrangements and balcony line up, and honestly it's mine as well. I do believe that the working members of the BRF will take precedence over their non-working relatives. Also I believe that  the part of the Coronation Service will be modified and that only PoW will swear fealty to the new monarch rather than all of the royal dukes etc... I also believe that we'll only see the working royals present on the balcony at Buckingham Palace, but that the non-working members of the BRF will be at Buckingham Palace to gather after the service.

Now whether or not mine and Ms. Nicholl's predictions are correct, well that remains to be seen.  :shrug:

wannable

#289
All reporters have misses. I suggest to watch the coronation at a preferred channel.

Watch Neil Sean reporting from Westminster Abbey, Fox News live 🍿

wannable

#290
Harry did not behave himself for the service of thanksgiving. He arrived 15 minutes late for the coach and Charles ended up arranging a last minute transportation for the couple. The royal channel has the uninterrupted of the service. Everyone is seated including the senior royals then incoming Harry and Megs disbelief.

This will not happen during a once in a lifetime coronation a historical event. I suspect the couple will make another media disruption and poor Pa is just too soft. If this happens it will spell the final end of the montecito duo with the British royals. They will not keep on taking it. They cannot the public outcry will be deafening.

Curryong

Quote from: wannable on February 09, 2023, 02:20:00 AM
All reporters have misses. I suggest to watch the coronation at a preferred channel.

Watch Neil Sean reporting from Westminster Abbey, Fox News live 🍿

Yes and Sean has more than most. I certainly won?t be watching Fox, or any foreign Channel for that matter. The national broadcaster the ABC here will be covering it and the three free to air channels here will probably be taking it from the BBC.

wannable

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wannable

The good news is the Coronation organizers can change the amount of people 'yet' because scaffolding and seats is quite easy. The hard news is after the service there is a reception, which is the costly part.  Moneys.

Peers in uproar as only a minority will be invited to King Charles's Coronation
Sources say they are expecting dissent in the ranks as many Lords will be left disappointed
King Charles Coronation: Peers in uproar as only a minority will be invited
The Telegraph, Victoria Ward

wannable

The Royal Family
@royalfamily
👑 The new Coronation emblem has been unveiled!

The emblem will feature throughout the historic events in May, including street parties, community gatherings and on official merchandise.



wannable

A separate comment to not ruin the above Coronation emblem.

I see that #CaroleanEra is trending with the Coronation.

In the English speaking world, Carolean era refers to the reign of Charles II (1660-1685) and usually refers to the arts. It is better known as The Restoration. It followed the Interregnum when there was no king. The period was noted for the flourishing of the arts following the demise of The Protectorate. It ended with the Glorious Revolution of 1688 when James II of England & VII of Scotland went into exile.

The Carolean era should not be confused with the Caroline era which refers to the reign of Charles II's father, Charles I (1625-1649). The phrase has come into use again recently relating to the accession of King Charles III.

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wannable

The design features the rose of England, the thistle of Scotland, the daffodil of Wales and the shamrock of Northern Ireland, paying tribute to The King's love of the natural world.

Together, they create the shape of St Edward's Crown, with which HM will be crowned in May.

TLLK

Quote from: wannable on February 10, 2023, 10:58:59 PM
The Royal Family
@royalfamily
👑 The new Coronation emblem has been unveiled!

The emblem will feature throughout the historic events in May, including street parties, community gatherings and on official merchandise.




It's lovely especially with the floral emblems of the United Kingdom.

LouisFerdinand

I especially like the use of the daffodil of Wales in the emblem.