A New Chapter Part 8

[sara8150]

I think the children might be to young to sit and be quiet for that long time period, it is a time of quiet reflection and grieving.

Yes Archie is 3 years old and Lilibet is 1 years old not idea to bring to HM Queen Elizabeth II?s funeral till over 5 years old to attend

[sara8150]

Harry and Meghan's children continue to be listed as 'Master' and 'Miss' on updated succession order | Daily Mail Online

[wannable]

Yes, I'm making it a point by posting this touching picture in the New Chapter of the Sussexes Board.  :flower3:  :hi:

Well my hope and happiness lasted a little less than 24 hours.  There seems to be no real goodwill from the Sussexes.  Reports of after W offered them, ''negotiations'' were done during 45 minutes, allegedly because the Sussexes already had a impromptu plan in place with CNN to make their own (American Royal) walk.  The anchor of CNN said LIVE: ''It ended up with the Royals Harry and Meghan walking with the ''other'' royals. What? The CNN editors didn't scrap, hide, delete or CUT from live this comment. 

Firstly, HMQEII had just passed away, everyone should be in grieving mode, there shouldn't be any negotiations, just do it for her, your granny!!!
Secondly, IF CNN/Sussexes had their plan, shame on H&M
Thirdly, I'm delusional to have had that hope and goodwill reflected in my comments yesterday.

*****

My personal opinion about the Sussex children, is IF EVERYTHING would have been 100% Transparent (remember the brouhaha of conceiving, the emails, Sara L taking the blame, no immediate photo op, etc. etc. etc.) and Meghan wouldn't have made the several damaging Archie comments, Archie and Lilibet would ''automatically'' appear in the official Royal.Gov website with their prince/princess title.   The excuse from the BP staff that after 10 days, bla bla bla....really!!! the POW's were placed and done, the only thing you need to do is scroll down to the lines, open edit, change, fixed ,updated! Very simple really.  Then there is an ACTUAL discusion hereditary peers official website about past and most importantly present of how babies were recorded, today it is DNA tests.  i.e. From having people view the birth the last was with QEII, to having certified ''royal'' doctors and officially sign the Walesses children, Yorks, Tindalls and Phillips to DNA test none that we know so far.  NOTE: I have to add it because IT IS being discussed. The Lord Newall, Viscount Torrington is leading it. So don't get angry at me/messenger. The Sussexes presented a no name no signature form with only data of the babies/UK citizen and the USA citizen.

[sara8150]

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle may fly Archie and Lilibet to the UK for Queen's funeral | Daily Mail Online

Archie Harrison and Lilibet Diana tipped to fly in for Queen's funeral with Doria Ragland | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

[Blue Clover]

I believe that one or both of the parents will return to California in the days before the funeral on September 19th but both will be present for the service. However I believe that they won't bring the children to the UK .

TLLK, I thought the same thing, it's hard to be separated from the little ones for this long. I also believe that they will bring the children back to the UK before the funeral.

[Amabel2]

TLLK, I thought the same thing, it's hard to be separated from the little ones for this long. I also believe that they will bring the children back to the UK before the funeral.

a long way to bring two small children for just a few days and for an occasion that they wont at all understand.

[sara8150]

a long way to bring two small children for just a few days and for an occasion that they wont at all understand.

Yes Archie and Lilibet will not understand on great grandmother the HM Queen Elizabeth II?s death

[Amabel2]

of course they wont, so why drag them all the way to the UK for a week - when H and Meg will presumably be at the ceremonies and funeral and seeing their family.

[wannable]

So they can be with their mom/dad who also has his birthday soon, Harry bday September 15! . They won't be in public but in their home (Forgmore cottage) with their parents.  Morning and evenings with their parents is something (add in that the parents have nothing to do with royal work until the funeral day, September 19, so all day with their children is good) rather than nothing/not seeing them for 3 plus weeks, the couple were already on their own tour. 

[Blue Clover]

of course they wont, so why drag them all the way to the UK for a week - when H and Meg will presumably be at the ceremonies and funeral and seeing their family.

Amabel, Why don't we let their parents decide what to do with them?

[Princess Cassandra]

Harry undoubtedly looked miserable in the car because his much-loved grandmother has just died. Even the tabloids put that interpretation on it.

And when did Meghan (or Harry for that matter) state that they wanted an apology from the Royal Family? Journalists may well have said it, as well as one or two of the ?royal experts?. However that is speculation straight from their fertile imaginations. There is far too much belief in what the newspapers report on the Sussexes by people here. Every negative story of what they have done and said, however OTT, receives complete belief as if it comes from Mt Ararat.

And if Harry was refused a lift in the aircraft to Scotland in which the disgusting and corrupt Andrew was allowed to travel, well that says far more to me about the moral fibre of the BRF than anything Harry has done.

It was in the Allison interview transcript.  I don't have the exact quote, but I'm sure you can find it on UTUBE.  Of course I am not "in the know" but I suspect there is a lot more to that flight to Scotland story, and I for one have learned to doubt much of what I hear. I did listen to the King's speech, however, and regarding Harry and Meghan, I thought he was trying to reassure his son that he is still a member of the family with an acknowledged loss. He will have expressed this to the family and if he and Harry are communicating, to Harry as well. Harry and Meghan will be made welcome -  if not warmly, at the very least politely.  There will be additional issues in the future, because in my opinion Harry and Meghan can't help themselves from doing what they do. At least right now they are all experiencing shared grief,  and it was so nice to see them walking out together.  Also comforting to see the other royals still together at Balmoral yesterday.

[Nightowl]

Well my hope and happiness lasted a little less than 24 hours.  There seems to be no real goodwill from the Sussexes.  Reports of after W offered them, ''negotiations'' were done during 45 minutes, allegedly because the Sussexes already had a impromptu plan in place with CNN to make their own (American Royal) walk.  The anchor of CNN said LIVE: ''It ended up with the Royals Harry and Meghan walking with the ''other'' royals. What? The CNN editors didn't scrap, hide, delete or CUT from live this comment. 

Firstly, HMQEII had just passed away, everyone should be in grieving mode, there shouldn't be any negotiations, just do it for her, your granny!!!
Secondly, IF CNN/Sussexes had their plan, shame on H&M
Thirdly, I'm delusional to have had that hope and goodwill reflected in my comments yesterday.

*****

My personal opinion about the Sussex children, is IF EVERYTHING would have been 100% Transparent (remember the brouhaha of conceiving, the emails, Sara L taking the blame, no immediate photo op, etc. etc. etc.) and Meghan wouldn't have made the several damaging Archie comments, Archie and Lilibet would ''automatically'' appear in the official Royal.Gov website with their prince/princess title.   The excuse from the BP staff that after 10 days, bla bla bla....really!!! the POW's were placed and done, the only thing you need to do is scroll down to the lines, open edit, change, fixed ,updated! Very simple really.  Then there is an ACTUAL discusion hereditary peers official website about past and most importantly present of how babies were recorded, today it is DNA tests.  i.e. From having people view the birth the last was with QEII, to having certified ''royal'' doctors and officially sign the Walesses children, Yorks, Tindalls and Phillips to DNA test none that we know so far.  NOTE: I have to add it because IT IS being discussed. The Lord Newall, Viscount Torrington is leading it. So don't get angry at me/messenger. The Sussexes presented a no name no signature form with only data of the babies/UK citizen and the USA citizen.

I understand where your coming from so here is what I do in situations where people disappoint me or do one thing and lie about it......I just do not sat myself up for their failures in life anymore......in fact I in all honesty expect the worst of of them and that usually is what happens, so no more disappointments. 

I at this point in time from what I have seen and read about the Sussex's is that I now expect them to write more books, do more interviews and tell the world how horrible the royal family is as that is ALL they have on their plates to do, think about it, just what do the Sussex's have that is worth anything important to give to anyone?    The new Prince and Princess of Wales now will have a heavy workload to help the county and the people.....that is called *Work*.

[Nightowl]

Harry undoubtedly looked miserable in the car because his much-loved grandmother has just died. Even the tabloids put that interpretation on it.

And when did Meghan (or Harry for that matter) state that they wanted an apology from the Royal Family? Journalists may well have said it, as well as one or two of the ?royal experts?. However that is speculation straight from their fertile imaginations. There is far too much belief in what the newspapers report on the Sussexes by people here. Every negative story of what they have done and said, however OTT, receives complete belief as if it comes from Mt Ararat.

And if Harry was refused a lift in the aircraft to Scotland in which the disgusting and corrupt Andrew was allowed to travel, well that says far more to me about the moral fibre of the BRF than anything Harry has done.

And just maybe finally Harry is feeling *Guilty* for all the drama and stress that he and Meghan have created in HM's life. He had a chance to go visit and didn't and that is ON HIM totally.  Years of Harry and Meghan bad mouthing the royal family, won't that cause HM to be stressed out with all the other stuff going on in the family, meaning Andrew and the death of Harry's grandfather no less.  HM was grieving the loss of her husband yet did Harry or Meghan give a damn.........NO they continued their plan of wanting to destroy the monarchy because why?  MONEY is why....financial freedom is why.  Greed over took both of them, Harry grew up with money and palaces, castles, you name it, it was given to him and Meghan did not grow up like that yet when given to her, I think it went straight to her head and she wanted more......money to do it her way!  I have read so many comments about that situation and for me, as most of my family is now gone with only my son left on this earth, family to me is *everything* and what they did to the royal family was betrayal by lying over and over again....that makes them traitors in my book to never be forgiven.  I just wonder if all this stress and drama had a huge emotional and mental affect on HM that hastened her death..I can't say for sure as I don't know her docs yet my doc has talked to me about stress and what affects it has on the heart because the death of my sister really really affected me deeply more than anything else in this world.  Just putting 2 and 2 together to make whatever.

[Princess Cassandra]

The four of them certainly appeared to be tense, and I thought it was because the rift had become so deeply entrenched that they felt uneasy and insecure in each other's company, even if they were trying to come together for the sake of their grandparents and the King.  But, I was happy to see them together! It now appears that there is more to that story.  I think we can anticipate a lot more drama as the Sussex's continue to do what they do.  I do so hope I'm wrong.   

[Nightowl]

Not holding my breath that the Sussex's will ever be a good fit for King Charles lll or anyone in the royal family....after all Meghan is an *actress* and knows darn well how to play the part and the people.  Just how long was Meghan a duchess?

[Curryong]

Not holding my breath that the Sussex's will ever be a good fit for King Charles lll or anyone in the royal family....after all Meghan is an *actress* and knows darn well how to play the part and the people.  Just how long was Meghan a duchess?

Meghan is a Duchess right now. All married-in wives in the BRF take their status from their husbands, as all British women do by custom. The Dukedom of Sussex was given to Harry. Meghan was therefore a Duchess on her wedding day and will remain so for as long as the couple are married. They are happy together and I?m sure it will last a lifetime.

[Nightowl]

Meghan is a Duchess right now. All married-in wives in the BRF take their status from their husbands, as all British women do by custom. The Dukedom of Sussex was given to Harry. Meghan was therefore a Duchess on her wedding day and will remain so for as long as the couple are married. They are happy together and I?m sure it will last a lifetime.

Yes, Meghan is a duchess and will be the rest of her life, no doubt about that ever, Yet her former career was an *actress* and those teaching and lessons will be with her the rest of her life also so, that means she can use those lessons to be whatever she wants to be.  I have a very close friend who is an actor and knows that show Friends, ( I have no clue about that show as that is not what I spend my time on) and he has shown me and others how those acting lessons or teaching can fool people in life....now anyone out of Hollywood that is in the media, I believe they are *acting* to get what they want, yep a bit cynical of me I know.  Both Harry and Meghan LIED about the royal family, and both BROKE any TRUST they had, that is very *disrespectful* and trust broken can barely ever be repaired as we all know. 

I still will not hold my breath that either one of them will ever be faithful to the royal family after their betrayal. They can't spin that or even take that back as it is out there for the world to see and read....and that is on them only.   Isn't there a quote about keeping your enemies close at hand, something like that, that walkabout was a fabulous PR stunt by William as someone said to me.

[Amabel2]

why worry about it?

[Curryong]

why worry about it?

I?m not worrying about it. I?m passing a few observations in another thread about the ridiculous nature of people (and in the end royals are just people) who have never been in the military parading around as honorary Admirals this and honorary Generals that with an array of faux medals on their chests, given to them by their mother simply for being her children.

[Amabel2]

I?m not worrying about it. I?m passing a few observations in another thread about the ridiculous nature of people (and in the end royals are just people) who have never been in the military parading around as honorary Admirals this and honorary Generals that with an array of faux medals on their chests, given to them by their mother simply for being her children.

i was nto responding to you but to Nightowl.  harry and Meghan have left royal life.  why worry about waht they do now?>

[sara8150]

Meghan Markle puts her Archetypes podcast on pause during period of mourning for the Queen | Daily Mail Online

[wannable]

Neil Sean said last night it's on pause because Spotify is reviewing with a tooth comb veiled or direct crapping of the BRF in order to edit it out.

[Princess Cassandra]

why worry about it?

Because when they speak they often do damage to others and to the institution itself.  There are many who still listen to them and believe what they say.  Now the Duchess has issued a veiled threat about her memoirs.

[Nightowl]

For one, I don't worry about the Sussex's at all as I have their number a long time ago. Meghan has issued a veil threat about her diary or memoirs.......so I believe we can expect *another* book from the Sussex's as that is a large part of how they make their money....so the Lies pile up I believe as that is all they have been doing for the last 2 years......nothing new......here is something I saw on the internet....

Redirect Notice on the internet......

[Nightowl]

Just how anyone can believe, trust and honor them is beyond me........of all, Harry should be deeply ashamed of himself for the way he and his wife have trashed the royal family over and over again and I am not the only one in the world that thinks like that....I think everyone here knows just how I feel about Trust and Betrayal of Family.