A New Chapter Part 8

[Princess Cassandra]

It probably doesn't sell like hours after PP funeral, he told Gayle King that the conversation with Charles and William ''were not productive''.  The couple wreck so much havoc, it's hard to keep up or remember, then google is my friend.  The next day all front page news had Harry (and Gayle King simulating on the phone with Harry) with the ''NOT PRODUCTIVE'' in Super font 18 and bold letters rather than the solemn Queen saying goodbye to her lifetime partner.

IMO everytime people abuse the elderly, the more I dislike them. He has become so dissociative he thinks that trashing Charles, William doesn't affect the Queen, Camilla, Kate. He really needs all sorts of help from people that really care for him, rather than the paid people who don't and encourage him to be worse by the minute, hour, day, week, month.

He has always appeared to "shoot from the hip", "leap before looking", and display "Harry Hotspur" tendencies. Very sad, and I feel terrible for the Queen and the POW as well as all the family.

[wannable]

In retrospect, I would have hoped Gayle King (especially because she has children!) would talk to Harry and tell him with a God Honest Truth that hours or even days or a couple of weeks NO ONE IN A FAMILY should have between them a 'productive' discussion (aftermath PP death, for God's Sake, every company in the world has compassionate leave...what's up with Harry, gone mad, and Gayle is mad too), especially when there is estrangement. The moment she notified the world with a dismissive attitude of hand up pushing down, half semi rolled 🙄, head tilted, a small poor Harry pout talking about him, I knew then that she doesn't care for Harry, she's only there for the money, job, her career, and an exclusive, whatever the exclusive is, good bad ugly, this one being nasty=ugly.

I would hope, the last thing one gives up on, actually try to never give up on, that when Oprah's father passed away, Gayle travelled a weekend to Oprah, cooked for Oprah and the people coming in and out to say their last goodbye to him,  ''looks back'' to understand what she did to Her Majesty's family.

[Nightowl]

It probably doesn't sell like hours after PP funeral, he told Gayle King that the conversation with Charles and William ''were not productive''.  The couple wreck so much havoc, it's hard to keep up or remember, then google is my friend.  The next day all front page news had Harry (and Gayle King simulating on the phone with Harry) with the ''NOT PRODUCTIVE'' in Super font 18 and bold letters rather than the solemn Queen saying goodbye to her lifetime partner.

IMO everytime people abuse the elderly, the more I dislike them. He has become so dissociative he thinks that trashing Charles, William doesn't affect the Queen, Camilla, Kate. He really needs all sorts of help from people that really care for him, rather than the paid people who don't and encourage him to be worse by the minute, hour, day, week, month.

That is a great comment, and I get Harry as I had a family member just like him who even went so far as to record conversations taken place in private and them put them out on social media to hurt the family all because she did not get her own way with money or cars or whatever it was at the time.  Most did nothing, yet I turned my back and never spoke to her again and never let her in my home as all TRUST was broken. I can't speak for anyone but me, yet I sure hope the royal family is darn careful in speaking to Harry or Meghan for they are traitors to their *family*.   What Harry and Meghan did was treacherous and mean and hateful and anyone who thinks that is OKAY is just the same type of person that Harry and Meghan are.....the world is filled with evil and Harry and Meghan are evil to the soul in what they did.

[wannable]

Senator Markle 2022

[sara8150]

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ?not welcome? to return to UK ? poll result | Royal | News | Express.co.uk
Yes 3%
NO 96%

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle should not meet with Royal Family on UK trip ? YOU VOTED | Royal | News | Express.co.uk
Yes 8%
NO 90%

[Princess Cassandra]

That is a great comment, and I get Harry as I had a family member just like him who even went so far as to record conversations taken place in private and them put them out on social media to hurt the family all because she did not get her own way with money or cars or whatever it was at the time.  Most did nothing, yet I turned my back and never spoke to her again and never let her in my home as all TRUST was broken. I can't speak for anyone but me, yet I sure hope the royal family is darn careful in speaking to Harry or Meghan for they are traitors to their *family*.   What Harry and Meghan did was treacherous and mean and hateful and anyone who thinks that is OKAY is just the same type of person that Harry and Meghan are.....the world is filled with evil and Harry and Meghan are evil to the soul in what they did.

I did read that the RF make sure none of them are alone with Harry.  This entire situation seems to get worse, and one part of it reminds me so much of books I've read about King Edward VIII after he left and became the Duke of Windsor; he hadn't thought out what abdicating would really mean. He, too, thought he could retain certain aspects of his royal life and didn't realize that he just couldn't return and pick up threads of his former life.  HM, the POW and the DOC knew from history that he could not be half in and half out. 

[wannable]

Rumors are the Sussexes requested in their upcoming trip a visit to the Queen, denied and allegedly never ever again.

Apparently that bridge is burnt. As I?ve said the couple treat each person individually not thinking everyone has a family, hurt a member you?re hurting the circle/unit/union.

In their conning Oprah show mistake, they rushed to say PP and the Queen are safe from their lies.

Time will tell, but I can see this rumor to pan out.

The only person who is reliable to them is Eugenie.

[Curryong]

I doubt very much that the Sussexes would have time to visit the Queen on the three days that they are away visiting their charities. The Queen is likely to be at Balmoral throughout most of it anyway. With her mobility issues the new PM may well go to Scotland to kiss hands.

My guess is that these rumours began now so that whoever started them and is spreading these stories can clap their hands and crow ?See, we were right!? when the Sussexes and Queen don?t meet. There have almost certainly been no plans for Meghan and Harry to rush to London or to Scotland to meet any relatives on this very short trip. There?s no need to.

[wannable]

It's a game.  Sunshine Sach (Couple US media go to) says the Sussexes do not want to see the Cambridges.

Next day (BRF UK media go to) The Queen was requested a meeting by the Sussexes, denied with the added that any informal or formal meeting the couple want is to be with William. (I could imagine the explosion and plates flying in Montecito)

Oh the drama.

[Curryong]

Oh, the evasions, rumours and absolute lies peddled by the British media. They may believe they know everything that goes on between the Queen and her relatives. In fact they know next to nothing. Ever.

[wannable]

Someone has to post it, for discussion purpose and as I said yesterday in another thread, see if it comes to be true or not.

This rumor and the whsipers are very strong about Harry will never ever see the Queen again. (In person, alone or accompanied).  Allegedly his only option is William, who allegedly is willing to meet with his brother as many times Harry wants.

[Curryong]

I never expected Harry and Meghan to see the Queen on this trip, nor did any serious royal watchers that I know. The time constraints alone wouldn?t permit it.

And most families, whether royal or not, do not operate on rumours and whispers, however often media spread them. I?d like to see the links to this story, thanks. And I don?t mean British tabloids, Bowyer or Levin, lol! Twitter, was it?  :hehe:

[wannable]

Who knows, I have a feeling it's true. Time will tell. Too much shenanigans to put it mildly of the big hurts he (and Meghan!) have caused, that supposedly the Queen doesn't want to see them again. The couple damaged her legacy using the Racism word and spread it like poison to the commonwealth. Many politicians are whispering this, the rumor is coming from politician groups from ALL parties, allegedly a handful of mostly independent or labour type  in comparison in a large room filled with them politicians are with the stance that no matter if it's right or wrong, black is to be defended at all costs.  They don't care the loss of the benefits of student visas, sponsorships, bursaries, etc etc etc. that is prescribed with the commonwealth.  THe majority of the politicians are with the Queen, but supposedly know what is going on with the 'handful' of noise makers.  :therethere:

The couple have a home in the same estate as the Queen, 15 minute walk, to the Cambridges 10 minute walk.  The Queen won't change her diary and has denied their request (allegedly they asked), for now, if she's feeling well, she will travel to BP to receive the new PM, if not, there are several options mapped out; new PM travels to Balmoral or Charles in behalf of HM.

ETA: The politicians whispering are from the black nations rather than UK parliamentary politicians, just to make it clear where it comes from. The level headed ones are thinking about the 'exchange of benefits' in all sectors with the UK government, the handful aren't thinking about it, they are in let's damage and destroy it completely. It's a very serious situation that the Queen is allegedly very very hurt. She's been working for this and all things for 70 years to have a couple of evil people make a hell of a havoc.

[Curryong]

Actually Frogmore Cottage is six minutes from the Castle not fifteen. However, that is irrelevant as my guess is that the Queen will remain at Balmoral unless she absolutely has to go to BP, very unlikely in my view. It?s important that the incoming PM kisses hands symbolically with the monarch not the Prince of Wales, though, as there has never been a 96 year old sovereign before, arrangements might be made for Charles to do the honours it would be most unusual by custom.

I asked for viable sources for the rumoured stories on Harry being forbidden access to the Queen that you brought here to this forum. Apart from your ?feeling? that it?s true, which is natural of course, as you are a notable anti-Sussexite you don?t appear to have anything to show, to verify them.  So we can all take it as read I guess that it is indeed a Twitter rumour. And you keep saying it is being ?alleged?. Again I ask, alleged by whom? Names please, and viable sources for that.

Well, if there are black politicians whispering this it?s a wonder no British broadsheet has got hold of it, just Twitter apparently. And if there are many politicians from all parties then you should be able to name names here and also the newspapers in these Commonwealth nations that are spreading racism rumours. NZ has coloured politicians (Māori) Nothing there. .

[wannable]

Tom Bower has appeared in many shows, very consistent and will soon be heading to a fully booked schedule of appearances in the USA, he has much more info that he can't publish YET until the sources decide to sign/seal/and let their names be officially recorded. Many have now decided a YES go ahead, and chapters in plural will be added to his book (the paperback version) In reference to the Queen, he threw in the what he knows and the palace were informed.  For a institution of this magnitude, TB must have showed them evidence. A few politicians stating the above is enough to sound the alarm bells in any quarters.

[Curryong]

I am a Commonwealth citizen and I keep my ears very close to the ground with regard to Commonwealth affairs. There are absolutely no rumours of Commonwealth newspapers printing any reports of anything like you are suggesting.

If there are rumours of racist members of the royal family then I would suggest that it is far more likely to have occurred as a result of incidents such as we saw on the recent royal tours of the Caribbean. These resentments about the Crown and British colonial rule have been festering for decades and far outdate anything Meghan and Harry said on Oprah. If Tom Bower intends to go that route, and bring in Commonwealth revolts started presumably by Meghan and Harry, (lol, absolutely ridiculous, what sort of power is he suggesting this couple have?!!! (Lol again)  then Commonwealth Heads will soon disabuse him of those fantasies.

[wannable]

IF the Queen doesn't see them ever again, any motive true or false, it won't matter. She's the Queen who rejected seeing Harry and his family again.

IF Tom Bower publishes new chapters, he will get away with it for all the reasons I've posted to date in reference to him. He covers all angles and aspects tight lid, no one can sue him.

The tip of the iceberg was the Racism claim.  Many politicians in Jamaica are against the small noise makers that did what they did, supposedly some of these noise makers are regretting what they did, keeping low as their rating numbers have plummeted.

Time is always right, got to wait.

[Curryong]

Oh, so it?s now come down to ?a few Jamaican politicians?who are keeping their heads down.?

Bit different to what you were suggesting a little while ago on your previous post, until I challenged you. You were inferring a full scale revolt throughout the Commonwealth against the Queen, begun by black politicians, and begun by the Sussexes..

What you stated in a previous post. Through the Commonwealth, hm! ?Many politicians?, hmm From all parties, eh. And all started by Meghan and Harry! What power, lol.

?Many politicians are whispering this, the rumor is coming from politician groups from ALL parties, allegedly a handful of mostly independent or labour type  in comparison in a large room filled with them politicians are with the stance that no matter if it's right or wrong, black is to be defended at all costs.  They don't care the loss of the benefits of student visas,?

I think you should stop reading rumours on Twitter and getting all excited by them. That?s my suggestion. And Tom Bowyer knows nothing about the private relationship between the Queen and her grandson. 

[wannable]

You're not interested in Tom Bower (you stated it here in the RIF), if I comment all rather than the general interest of the Sussexes related to Royalty.  BUT since you asked, I replied where, whom and what.  TB allegedly knows it all, knows a lot of things (more) about H&M and will disclose in paperback version. 

IF one is really interested in reading ''all'' sides, post away. If one prefers to cherrypick, each to its own.

[Curryong]

Yes I got my answer, rumours on Twitter about what Tom Bower apparently has coming up in his book, (hints not facts about the paperback) , and some muddled account about black politicians!

Well, we?d better wait and see what Bower says about Harry and Meghan going around the Commonwealth (when, btw?) rabblerousing with all those black politicians who are determined to destroy the Queen and Commonwealth, lol.

[wannable]

Tom has done the rounds in ALL  guest invited TV, Radio and Podcast and this discussion would very likely be wait and see if it's true. Rather than reactionary to the rumors which needs to be written first with his footnotes.

That citizens want to share his conversations in short sentences in social media, they have that right.

[wannable]

Senator Markle 2022

I wonder how the sales are doing? 2024?

[Princess Cassandra]

Rumors are the Sussexes requested in their upcoming trip a visit to the Queen, denied and allegedly never ever again.

Apparently that bridge is burnt. As I?ve said the couple treat each person individually not thinking everyone has a family, hurt a member you?re hurting the circle/unit/union.

In their conning Oprah show mistake, they rushed to say PP and the Queen are safe from their lies.

Time will tell, but I can see this rumor to pan out.

The only person who is reliable to them is Eugenie.

I am not surprised at these rumors. Though who knows how true they are, H and M do seem to have burned bridges in the UK where the British public is concerned.  The couriers and family may be trying to keep her from stressful situations as much as possible. How many people in their late 90's and not in the best of health take part in complicated family dynamics?

[TLLK]

An article about Meghan found in  The Cut.

Cut Cover: Meghan Markle on Her New Life in California

The conditions are right for confession. It is a beautiful August day in Montecito, in a beautiful sitting room, in a beautiful home. Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, a lively 3-year-old with a shock of ginger curls identical to his father?s, toddles into the room demanding ?Momma? listen to his heartbeat with a wooden toy stethoscope. He stands, tummy protruding, while his mother, Meghan, convincingly performs her glee at hearing the thump-thump, thump-thump in his chest. Archie giggles and, satisfied, toddles right back out again.

Meghan, relaxing in a cozy chair, gazes over all that is climate-controlled and high-ceilinged and sun-dappled and perfectly marshmallowy, and hers. An invisible hand has lit a Soho House?branded rose-water candle (the founder, Nick Jones, is a friend from ?long before I met Harry,? she says), and that scent fills the air, mingling with the gentle tones of a flamenco-inflected guitar floating from a speaker. Then, in the lull in conversation, Meghan turns to me and leans forward to ask in a conspiratorial hush, ?Do you want to know a secret??

Meghan, silenced no more, looks around, making sure nobody (who would be?) is listening in. Then the top-secret drop: ?I?m getting back ? on Instagram,? she says, her eyes alight and devilish.

[wannable]

Oof over the top cringe.