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sara8150

#179
August 12, 2024, 05:01:58 PM
Update news

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13735271/Future-King-Norways-stepson-faces-assault-charges-threatened-burn-womans-belongings-knife-seized.html

https://people.com/crown-prince-haakon-norway-speaks-out-stepson-arrest-8692440
CP Haakon says his stepson would have seriously consequences and house of Norway and CP Haakon and M-M would not comment on Marius's arrest it's private matter and it's private business on CP Haakon and M-M no release details from CP couples or house of Norway

Curryong

#180
August 12, 2024, 10:15:07 PM Last Edit: August 12, 2024, 10:18:42 PM by Curryong
I read yesterday from Norwegian sources that the police department involved would be releasing some more details on what happened today, Tuesday (Aus time.) The apartment in which this occurred was apparently Marcus's own apartment, bought some time ago.

'We will provide some more information tomorrow, but do not have a specific time now', writes press manager Unni Grøndal in the Oslo police district to NTB on Monday afternoon.

sara8150

#181
August 13, 2024, 04:34:06 PM
Update news

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13739319/Scandalous-Scandi-royals-Norwegian-assault-charge-Megxit.html
CP Mette Marit did admit apology for meet Jeffrey Epstein but she learned lessons but she wont happen again and also Princess Martha follow Meghan's Megxit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13738403/Crown-Princess-Mette-Marit-Norway-son-faces-jail.html
Article said Marius will face to years in prison

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1935524/Marius-Borg-Hoiby-charged-assault-prison



Kristeh-H

#182
August 13, 2024, 08:49:10 PM
It sounds like he needs prison time.  There is no excuse for violent, abusive behavior.  I feel sorry most of all for Marius' victims, and also for the Norwegian Royal Family, especially as they are also dealing with some troublesome behavior from Martha-Louise and the shaman right now. 

But I do have to wonder if Marius has shown any disturbing tendencies through the years.  With his ex speaking out against him as well, it seems like he has a pattern of abusive behavior that perhaps should have been noticed before now.  Or maybe not.  I don't know.  Maybe Marius was very good at hiding that troubled side and his family didn't know. 

What a sad, terrible mess.   

Curryong

#183
August 13, 2024, 11:26:48 PM Last Edit: August 13, 2024, 11:39:27 PM by Curryong
The Norwegian royal family (and Marius is not royal of course but has been taken into the bosom of the royal family including the King and Queen since CP Haakon married MM) have always been very discreet and in-house about the behaviour of individual members and their reactions to same. They rarely issue statements unless they have to, and sometimes the genuine popularity of the monarchy taking a hit has forced them to do so. For instance Prss ML and her shaman's various observations about the Norwegian population and their attitudes to Durek's beliefs and background.

Having said all that, I would be very surprised if Marius receives any jail time. I believe he may well have issues with alcohol and perhaps other substances. (This is all speculation on my part I emphasise, plus observations about Marius and family over the years. I have no direct evidence about his past behaviour with girlfriends etc.) I believe mental health problems may play a part in Marius's legal defence when he goes to court and he could well be ordered to seek treatment.

Kristeh-H

#184
August 14, 2024, 02:58:53 AM
If Marius does have a substance abuse problem, I do not believe that should excuse his violent, dangerous, and abusive behavior towards women.  If he has such an issue, he would need rehab treatment, but he also needs to be held accountable for his criminal actions.  At least I think so.

Curryong

#185
August 14, 2024, 03:31:46 AM
In the end it doesn't matter what you and I think should happen. It will come down to, imo, what the court decides as an appropriate sentence for Marius, a first offender before the courts. And that means all factors will be taken into consideration, including his background. It's unlikely in my view that he will escape any penalty, whether that means treatment in a mental health or addiction facility and/or clinic or a short prison sentence if no evidence of any alcoholism or other addiction is present.

PrincessOfPeace

#187
August 14, 2024, 01:55:59 PM
Marius to NRK, via his defender Øyvind Bratlien - Admits the use of violence in cocaine intoxication

"Something happened that should never have happened. I committed bodily harm and destroyed objects in an apartment in the intoxication of alcohol and cocaine after an argument. I have several mental disorders which mean that throughout my upbringing and adult life, I have had, and still have, challenges. I have struggled with substance abuse for a long time, something I have been in treatment for in the past. I will now resume this treatment and take it very seriously."
"The drug use and my diagnoses do not excuse what happened in the apartment at Frogner on the night of Sunday last weekend. I want to be responsible for what I have done, and will explain myself truthfully to the police".
"For me, the most important thing is to say sorry to my girlfriend. She deserved neither what happened that night, nor the extreme pressure from both the Norwegian and foreign press afterwards. Being pursued by photographers and journalists at a time like this I know has been tough to stand in".
"I also want to apologize to my family. I know that my actions have greatly affected you".
"So to you my love, I'm sorry. This should never have happened and I take full responsibility for my actions".

-Marius Borg Høiby

Curryong

#189
August 14, 2024, 08:34:53 PM
So, Marius has been in the grip of cocaine addiction for years and is not recovered. I thought it was something like that which caused this episode. It's time for him imo to go into longterm treatment and not leave until he is completely cured. No more incidents of attacking girlfriends and others, ever.

Kristeh-H

#190
August 15, 2024, 02:10:01 PM
I am not good at posting links, but now a second ex-girlfriend has come forward and stated that Marius was also violent towards her.  She says that he punched her, kicked her, strangled her, and trashed her apartment as well.  She said she had decided to speak up after Marius gave a public apology, but implied that his behavior was a one-time incident fueled by cocaine.  She wants people to know that Marius has a history of this dangerous and abusive behavior.

So it sounds like there are at least 3 women that Marius has abused.  I think he is a real piece of work, who needs to spend some considerable time in prison, as well as receiving drug rehab and therapy to get to the root of his anger and violence towards his partners.

And while right now, I do feel some sympathy for Mette-Marit and Haakon, if it should come out that they knew of his abusive nature and continued to fund and enable him, I will lose all respect for them.   

Kristeh-H

#192
August 15, 2024, 09:42:18 PM
Thanks for the links, Sara.

Blue Clover

#193
August 16, 2024, 01:49:13 AM Last Edit: August 16, 2024, 02:15:30 AM by Blue Clover
Quote from: Kristeh-H on August 13, 2024, 08:49:10 PMIt sounds like he needs prison time.  There is no excuse for violent, abusive behavior.  I feel sorry most of all for Marius' victims, and also for the Norwegian Royal Family, especially as they are also dealing with some troublesome behavior from Martha-Louise and the shaman right now. 

But I do have to wonder if Marius has shown any disturbing tendencies through the years.  With his ex speaking out against him as well, it seems like he has a pattern of abusive behavior that perhaps should have been noticed before now.  Or maybe not.  I don't know.  Maybe Marius was very good at hiding that troubled side and his family didn't know. 

What a sad, terrible mess.   

I agree with everything you have said. The picture of the knife in the wall after the physical violence is highly disturbing. In the statement he released, his behavior was blamed on substance use and mental health challenges, and then he ended it by declaring his love for the woman he battered. She is not the first girlfriend to see his physically and mentally violent side. He is not healthy at all, is dangerous, and needs to face prison time for his behavior. I feel sorry for the Norwegian royal family, but something suggests that they knew he had behavioral problems all along.  I am sure it's a difficult time for them, and they will stand by him.

Kristeh-H

#194
August 16, 2024, 02:58:07 AM
Thanks, Blue Clover.  I agree with you too--except maybe for the standing by him part.  For the good of the monarchy, I'm not sure they can afford to publicly support him.  He is dangerously violent.  It's more than the knife even.   These women are saying that he put his hands around their throat and tried to strangle them.  In my view, that is attempted murder.

I'm not a PR expert, but I think the family needs to publicly distance themselves, much as the British Royal Family had to do with Andrew.  They may still see Marius in private (I feel sure Mette-Marit would), but I think they need to keep quiet and he shouldn't be seen at public family events with them.

Kristeh-H

#195
August 16, 2024, 03:04:31 AM
Oh, and in Marius' "apology" letter, notice that he calls the woman his girlfriend, his love, etc.  The woman herself says that she is not his girlfriend.  Even in his "apology", Marius is showing possessiveness and disrespect for the woman ending the relationship.  Another classic sign of an abuser.

I put apology in quotes, because I don't believe Marius is sincerely remorseful at all.  He's sorry for being caught, that's all.

Curryong

#196
August 16, 2024, 03:35:09 AM Last Edit: August 16, 2024, 03:47:35 AM by Curryong
Quote from: Kristeh-H on August 16, 2024, 02:58:07 AMThanks, Blue Clover.  I agree with you too--except maybe for the standing by him part.  For the good of the monarchy, I'm not sure they can afford to publicly support him.  He is dangerously violent.  It's more than the knife even.  These women are saying that he put his hands around their throat and tried to strangle them.  In my view, that is attempted murder.

I'm not a PR expert, but I think the family needs to publicly distance themselves, much as the British Royal Family had to do with Andrew.  They may still see Marius in private (I feel sure Mette-Marit would), but I think they need to keep quiet and he shouldn't be seen at public family events with them.

Marius is in my view likely to be ordered to get a full course of treatment for his addictions and anger management issues. He may get a short, by other countries' standards, prison sentence but it's doubtful he'll get more I think.

Marius's position is very different to Andrew's. Andrew remains a Prince and a Duke. Marius is untitled, is not a member of the Royal House, which is formally differentiated in Norway and consists of the King and Queen, Crown Prince couple and the heir Ingrid Alexander, the CP's daughter and first child. Her brother Sverre Magnus is not regarded formally as a member of that set, and Marius certainly isn't. He doesn't carry out royal duties and never has. Both are of the Royal Family. See below.

C Prss MM is Marius's mother and I believe he will be let back into the fold once he has served whatever penalty he is given and will still be seen with his family. He is still a stepson of CP Haakon's. Haakon may be very sad about the situation, annoyed and perhaps ashamed on behalf of his stepson, but imo I don't think the couple will be sending Marius out into the darkness for good.

As for Andrew, has the BRF 'publicly distanced' themselves from him? He has been publicly fore and present at things like the Coronation wearing his Garter robes. He appears and stays at Windsor, Balmoral and at Sandringham and still gets royal security. Edward sometimes rides with him in Windsor Great Park. Yes, Andrew doesn't carry out royal engagements any more, but the 'distancing' from the family has been strictly limited as far as I can see.

Curryong

#197
August 16, 2024, 03:45:45 AM Last Edit: August 16, 2024, 03:51:49 AM by Curryong
The Royal House of Norway belongs to the House of Glücksburg. The members of the Norwegian Royal House are Their Majesties King Harald and Queen Sonja and Their Royal Highnesses Crown Prince Haakon, Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Princess Ingrid Alexandra.


The members of the Royal Family are in addition the Crown Prince and Crown Princess's other children, His Highness Prince Sverre Magnus and Mr Marius Borg Høiby; Her Highness Princess Märtha Louise, Miss Maud Angelica Behn, Miss Leah Isadora Behn, Miss Emma Tallulah Behn and Her Highness Princess Astrid, Mrs Ferner.

https://www.royalcourt.no/seksjon.html?tid=28435

Kristeh-H

#198
August 16, 2024, 03:47:40 AM
Marius' situation is not entirely comparable with Andrew's, I agree.  But there was also less evidence against Andrew than there is against Marius.   

Curryong

#199
August 16, 2024, 03:57:40 AM
So Andrew deserves to be coddled in the heart of the BRF, in spite of being a disgusting and corrupt disgrace and having to pay out money to a female in a legal settlement? OK then!!!

And the evidence against Marius hasn't yet gone to court. Most cases of this sort do not deal with ex girlfriends' assertions. It will be dealt with under the facts of what happened on that night.
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