On This Day ~ In British Royal History

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April 7, 1818 - The Wedding of Princess Elizabeth of Great Britain, daughter of King George III of Great Britain, and Landgrave Frederick VI of Hesse-Homburg at the Private Chapel of Buckingham Palace


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April 18, 1712 - Demise of Louisa Maria Teresa Stuart, the daughter of King James II of England


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April 23, 1445 - The Wedding of King Henry VI of England and Margaret of Anjou at Titchfield Abbey in Titchfield


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April 28, 1442 - Birth of King Edward IV of England in Rouen, France.   
                        He was the son of Richard of York, 3rd Duke of York and Cecily Neville.


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May 15, 1567 - The Wedding of Mary, Queen of Scots and James Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell at Holyrood Palace


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May 28, 1368 - The Wedding of Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence, son of King Edward III of England, and Violante Visconti at Church of St. Maria Maggiore in Milan, Italy


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June 2, 1953 - Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain at Westminster Abbey in London   


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June 15, 1330 - Birth of Edward of Woodstock, Prince of Wales, son of King Edward III of England at Woodstock Palace in Oxfordshire, England


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June 19, 1566 - Birth of James VI, King of Scotland (King James I of England), son of Mary Queen of Scots, at Edinburgh Castle


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June 25, 1533 - Demise of Mary Tudor, daughter of King Henry VII of England. She was Queen of France. She was Duchess of Suffolk.


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June 28, 1838 - The Coronation of Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom at Westminster Abbey in London


Curryong

Queen Victoria?s Coronation was a year and one week away from the death of her uncle King William IV. That?s around the usual amount of time for British Coronations.

LouisFerdinand

Quote from: Curryong on June 29, 2021, 12:24:28 AM
Queen Victoria?s Coronation was a year and one week away from the death of her uncle King William IV. That?s around the usual amount of time for British Coronations.
Suppose Victoria had married Prince Albert before the Coronation. How much fancier would the Coronation have been then?


Curryong

I don?t know what you mean by ?fancier.? Victoria?s Coronation was attended by guests from the elite of Great Britain, the higher aristocrats, many of them already at her Court, leading politicians etc. There were some foreign visitors of course, and among them were members of her mother?s family (who were also relatives of Albert?s as they were first cousins.)

There was pomp and ritual as there always was on these occasions but of course ordinary people saw little of it except for the Procession, State Coach, beefeaters, guardsmen etc. Because there was no TV or even radio, ordinary working people and even the middle classes couldn?t partake of the ceremony at WA. The first Coronation to be televised was the present Queen?s.

The broadsheet Press wrote it up of course, but the ceremony itself seems to have been more than a bit disorganised and chaotic, Bishops forgetting parts of the ceremony, Peers rolling down steps (ironically his name was Lord Rolle) and the Coronation Ring put on the wrong finger of Victoria?s hand.

What is even more extraordinary is that some of the ritual and precedence doesn?t seem to have been written down and filed away by anyone at Court for future reference, with the result that in desperation Courtiers planning Edward VII?s Coronation in 1901/1902 had to resort to searching the memory of 1838 guests who were over eighty, to try and get those things correct. One of those guests was Queen Victoria?s much loved maternal aunt Augusta of Mecklenburg-Strelitz.

At least if Albert had been Victoria?s husband in 1838 he would almost certainly have been put in charge, with the Lord Chamberlain, of the event and it would all have been meticulously arranged and recorded.


Amabel2

Perhaps the English didn't like ALbert's "German effiencey".

Curryong

Quote from: Amabel2 on June 30, 2021, 08:09:33 AM
Perhaps the English didn't like ALbert's "German effiencey".

No, some didn?t, and he was quite unpopular in some quarters because of his manner, though others admired him. However, in the matter of the Queen?s Coronation he would have been excellent. It would have saved Courtiers scampering around in 1902 asking very old people what they could remember of a ceremony 64 years in the past.

LouisFerdinand

Prince Albert's Aunt Victoria was originally Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. Did people dislike her because she was a German even though she wed Prince Edward, Duke of Kent?


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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on June 30, 2021, 10:53:17 PM
Prince Albert's Aunt Victoria was originally Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. Did people dislike her because she was a German even though she wed Prince Edward, Duke of Kent?

Well, strictly speaking Prince Edward, though a British Prince, was as German in bloodlines as she was. All the Hanoverian Kings and their consorts were German.

I don?t think the Duchess of Kent occupied a prominent place in the minds of most Britons. From the time of her arrival in Britain however, she seems to have regarded the Court of King George IV as something akin to a scene of Babylonian excess and orgies, and even the ultra respectable Court of William IV and Queen Adelaide failed to get her approbation.

As she persisted in isolating herself from these Courts and courtiers and had few friends among the British aristocracy in her early widowhood, this of course had its effect on her daughter. Victoria had attended very few Court functions before she ascended the Throne, though she was personally fond of her aunt Adelaide and uncle William. In fact King William made some loud remarks at a dinner about the Duchess keeping his niece away from Court which deeply offended the Duchess and upset Victoria.

In spite of all this the Duchess did stay in Britain after Edward?s death. She was very cognisant as the years went on that her daughter would become Queen and so she stuck it out, with financial help from her brother Leopold. I?m not sure that she really wanted to settle back in Germany, really. After Victoria married Albert she was very comfortable where she was.

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July 5, 1321 - Birth of Joan of the Tower, daughter of King Edward II of England, Queen Consort of King David II of Scotland


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July 11, 1274 - Birth of Robert I the Bruce, King of Scots at Turnberry Castle in Ayrshire, Scotland


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July 15, 1445 - Demise of Lady Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scots, wife of James I, King of Scots at Dunbar Castle in Scotland


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July 23, 1885 - The Wedding of Princess Beatrice of England and Prince Henry of Battenberg, at St. Mildred's Church, in Whippingham, Isle of Wight, England   

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July 29, 1565 - The Wedding of Mary, Queen of Scots and Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh, Scotland


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August 9, 1902 - The Coronation of King Edward VII of Great Britain at Westminster Abbey


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August 14, 1473 - Birth of Margaret Pole, 8th Countess of Salisbury, the daughter of George, Duke of Clarence