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wannable

#125
December 15, 2022, 12:04:38 PM
For now Valentine Low's book can give one a rough draft.

Curryong

#126
December 15, 2022, 12:10:03 PM
It was said before the Inquiry really began that the terms of reference were about how to proceed in the future in royal Household if there were any claims of harassment and allegations of bullying in the future from Senior people and Principals in the Households towards junior staff. Processes were to be formulated and conduits to better procedures made.

In The Future. It wasn?t a trial by jury of anyone. And that includes the Sussexes, much as the tabloids would have loved to have seen them hung out to dry, that would have been a very different process from what occurred. And Yes, the Queen, almost certainly on the advice of her PS and other advisers, decided it should not be made public.

As for Meghan?s knowledge of the UK. I would say, having met many Americans in my lifetime, that even well-travelled ones who have lived in Britain for a while on business etc have gaps in their knowledge of the country. That is absolutely natural.

Most who visit for a holiday have hopefully good memories of the place but many customs about the British way of life escape them. And as for Americans in the US, a large majority know little and care less about the UK. There is sometimes interest at a time of a royal wedding or a Coronation, and people then will watch a programme and then forget about it.

I except Americans on Royal Forums who have some knowledge and some have a lot. However, with all due respect, you could stuff yourself with research about Britain for years and still make mistakes of protocol and behaviour in royal life. Both Fergie and Diana were British and Diana was an aristocrat and both still said they felt like fish out of water at times. How can you research what being a royal is going to be like, really? The answer is you can?t, unless and until you are actually living it.

wannable

#127
December 15, 2022, 12:18:45 PM
They will copy/paste from the best organizatios worldwide.

Curryong

#128
December 15, 2022, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: wannable on December 15, 2022, 12:18:45 PM
They will copy/paste from the best organizatios worldwide.

Who are They? And you can?t actually experience living every day as a royal by reading books and reports about it however full of information those are. People who marry in to any royal family worldwide just learn from living it and learning from experience. Books and data can only teach you so much.

wannable

#129
December 15, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
They are Human Resources, usually the department that officially print the Q&A of employment ''issues'' what to do.

Curryong

#130
December 19, 2022, 08:44:42 PM Last Edit: December 19, 2022, 08:59:31 PM by Curryong
Jeremy Clarkson is well known in Britain for his big mouth. Now, thank heavens there is widespread criticism for what he said he would like to happen to Meghan, and he deserves every bit of it.

Jeremy Clarkson 'horrified to have caused so much hurt' after his column on Meghan Markle | Daily Mail Online

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64025074

Clarkson comments got six thousand complaints. And what does it say about editors at The Sun for printing such vileness. Clarkson?s own daughter has protested against it.

Violent misogynistic fantasies like Jeremy Clarkson?s are not new ? but the Sun gleefully publishing them is | Zoe Williams | The Guardian

TLLK

#131
December 19, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
Glad to see that Mr. Clarkson is receiving the drumming that he richly deserves.  <_< IMO he's welcome to his own negative opinion of the Duchess of Sussex but he's used very disgusting language which was unnecessary.

Nightowl

#132
December 20, 2022, 12:31:58 AM
Absolutely and totally agree with your comment!

FanDianaFancy

#133
December 20, 2022, 12:42:04 AM
I do not flip flop on Sussex, Wales, etc.
This comment by this guy, whoever he is, is a dream he needed to keep to himself.

Wrong. Wrong. Nasty thing to print. He was wrong. No apology accepted.

Add though, however, if he had said this about William, all would be good. Ok. Fine.
Catherine, no problems.
If he wanted to make a point, he should have released an article saying Catherine should be dragged like Thornes. He would have been awarded prizes, air time, held as righteous because  Catherine, according to HenMeg , is racist.
Next day, same article on Meg. Nono. Uhh, big nono. She cannot be criticized by media unless be called racist.

AGAIN, people really need to THINK before hitting the post link.
What you do, say, think, dream is ok to say to family, friends  around the kitchen table. However, the public is not around your kitchen table. Not  everything you say, do,think, needs to be said publicly.

Of course this man represents all of the media, racist, and people of England, racist, and BRF, racist do HenMeg and fans will run with it.

Omy God. When will it all end. When will peace be restored. When will HarMeg shut up. when willreports be on KC, events etc. and not Sussex.

I guess when Sussex get divorced.

Curryong

#134
December 20, 2022, 01:26:32 AM Last Edit: December 20, 2022, 01:37:58 AM by Curryong
OK, I?ll keep this short. Clarkson would have been condemned, rightly, for what he said whoever he said it about. It was vile and misogynistic in the extreme. He wouldn?t have been getting praise from anyone, in or out of public life.

Nobody that I know believes that Clarkson represents the British media or people. Almost all the people who have come out deploring his language have been British, actually. However, it says something about the Sun?s editors? standards and morality that they allowed that sort of sentiment to go to print in their newspaper.

When will the Sussexes be quiet so there is peace? I?d just like to observe to that that for years Meg said nothing to what was said in the media about her. From before her engagement when she was living in Nott Cott to when she spoke to Oprah.

When will peace be restored? When people stop reading hate-filled clickbait articles. Because, like it or not, they make newspaper proprietors extremely wealthy.

As for people concentrating on King Charles and his doings I think we can say that in terms of sheer numbers, since Diana came on the scene and certainly since his sons grew up, the British media appear to have directed their attention to new and possibly more interesting persons and events. See remarks above re clickbait.

Curryong

#135
December 21, 2022, 03:10:31 AM Last Edit: December 21, 2022, 03:20:34 AM by Curryong
IPSO have now received more than 17,500 complaints (more than they received through the whole of 2021) about Jeremy Clarkson?s horrific column referring to Meghan, which the Sun by the way, left up on its website for several days. It?s now removed. MPs and others have also written to The Sun?s female editor in protest.

In fact this thing isn?t going away. However, strangely, the Palace has remained deafeningly silent. They certainly didn?t remain silent where Lady Susan was concerned but Clarkson and his opinions were just let go, even though Meghan is still the King?s daughter in law. Wouldn?t have anything to do of course with the fact that Queen Camilla had lunch with those well-known big mouths Clarkson and Piers Morgan, among others, only a few days before the article got published.

Harry and Meghan vindicated by royal family's silence over Jeremy Clarkson 'hate' column, say supporters - Wales Online

Jeremy Clarkson news ? latest: ITV boss says presenter will remain on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? | The Independent

wannable

#136
December 21, 2022, 02:33:57 PM
The vicious circle of 'trashing' people. I'm 99.9% sure the BRF will NOT voluntarily enter into it.

H&M trash, a big one like them, Morgan and Clarkson play the game.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

wannable

#137
December 21, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
IOW, H&M trash their families, they leave everything and everyone wondering who is who, what is what in doubt and still RETAIN jobs.

No difference should be taken with these two men that trash H&M.

That is the message of 'equality treatment' to these type of lowly people,  17K is nothing compared to the almost 1M (multiple times) complaints of the pair, just saying. 

It's a disgusting war, but thinking out of the box and the ''level'' of the foursome, rather than go balistic over nasty things they throw at each other, hence my goose/gander comment.

TLLK

#139
December 24, 2022, 12:07:50 AM
Glad to see that both Clarkson and The Sun have apologized.

Curryong

#140
December 24, 2022, 02:33:34 AM Last Edit: December 24, 2022, 02:42:10 AM by Curryong
Quote from: TLLK on December 24, 2022, 12:07:50 AM
Glad to see that both Clarkson and The Sun have apologized.


In a tweet earlier this week, Jeremy said he had made a 'clumsy reference to a scene in Game of Thrones', which had 'gone down badly with a great many people' and he was 'horrified to have caused so much hurt'.

"He also said he will be more careful in future.

"Columnists' opinions are their own, but as a publisher, we realise that with free expression comes responsibility.

"We at The Sun regret the publication of this article and we are sincerely sorry. The article has been removed from our website and archives."

Yes The Sun has apologised for that foul column though I could have done without all that braying at the end (which I haven?t included in the quote) about their vile rag supporting charities. So what? Not relevant at all. And the complaints to IPEC would have continued growing. They knew that, so they decided to shut it down for their own sakes..

And as for Clarkson apologising, he didn?t, unless that weak Tweet of a few days ago beginning ?Oh dear, I seem to have put my foot in it?? is supposed to be one. It isn?t.

And neither of these belated so-called Mea Culpas reference the hurt and disgust that Meghan must have felt when she read the column. No apology directly to her, I see. Not that I expected there?d be one. Neither Clarkson nor the editor at the Sun have any sense of decency.

And as for Australia. News Corp takes on the Sussexes, and loses.

News Corp takes on Harry and Meghan's Netflix show ? and loses

wannable

#141
December 24, 2022, 02:07:06 PM
Clarkson's 'lack' of exact word description of Cersei Lannister walk of shame context isn't close to the context of GOT.

Clarkson isn't a member of the BRF, his apology is to save his neck from fans rather than his employment, so the Sussexes to date have trashed their families, until when? will the duo ever apologize?

The Crikey Australian website is the adversary of the Murdoch's. So yes, they will write opposing news. Like if it will stop the media from scrutinizing public figures who behave badly or are as said in the latest articles 'nepo' babies. Children of famous people making moneys because of their famous parents.

sara8150

#142
December 25, 2022, 01:15:27 AM Last Edit: December 25, 2022, 01:29:08 AM by sara8150
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex dismiss The Sun's apology for Jeremy Clarkson column as a 'PR stunt'  | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle Spokesperson Calls The Sun's Apology Over Clarkson Article a 'PR Stunt'
Articles says Jeremy Clarkson need seriously consequences
QuoteSadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, took to Twitter to condemn the article. "As Jeremy Clarkson should well know - words have consequences. The words in his piece are no joke - they're dangerous and inexcusable," the mayor tweeted. "We are in an epidemic of violence against women and girls and men with powerful voices must do better than this."

Brits immediately put the article under fire after it was published as well, with 6,000 complaints being made to press regulator IPSO about the piece, according to the BBC.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle react after the Sun issues apology over controversial Jeremy Clarkson column | HELLO!

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64085604

Harry and Meghan reject The Sun's Clarkson apology - calling it 'nothing more than a PR stunt' | UK News | Sky News

Sussexes dismiss Sun apology for Clarkson column as ?PR stunt? | Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex | The Guardian

wannable

#144
December 25, 2022, 01:37:49 PM
What kind of apology does Meghan want? Cancelled and unemployment?!

Joyous holiday for the Sussex fam

wannable

#145
December 27, 2022, 02:00:19 PM
The gloves are off for Meghan Markle.

First The Hill and now (today) Politico, two political newspapers.

This is no royal reporting for a tabloid or broadsheet type, this is! clearly and distinctly newspapers fully dedicated to politics, congress, law making...the two most largest political papers.   :o

changemhysoul

#147
December 27, 2022, 05:15:04 PM
The Politico article was and is trash. It's obvious the writer wanted to shot a Meghan but was too scared to do it along. I'm sorry but nothing she has done warrants being put in the same line as Trump, Ye and Musk and others. It's also telling that the docu-series was made by Harry AND Meghan but it's Meghan that's used and referenced. Along with the fact that the writer has had a bit of an obsession's with Harry. Politico could barely handle the heat and changed the picture and headline.

What's most amazing that, the author wouldn't have an article and it wouldn't have been interesting without mentioning Harry and Meghan, mainly Meghan. It hasn't gone down well but /shrugs.

Clarkson's comment were vile and nasty but when people have been allowed to say whatever about Meghan with it going unchecked through out the years, Clarkson most likely thought he'd get away with it. He also could've kept his non-apology to himself. The Sun....not going to even go there.

Clarkson's comments were vile and nasty but they exist in a culture where most people have been able to be out-right nasty and who's words already has violence undertones when it comes to Meghan, so I don't expect any real change.

wannable

#148
December 27, 2022, 06:44:23 PM
IF H and M weren't nasty, none of this would have existed. The BRF have security alerts with far left BLM's and violent black people willing to believe the blank statement.

Curryong

#149
December 27, 2022, 08:30:25 PM Last Edit: December 27, 2022, 08:33:24 PM by Curryong
I took a look at the opinion piece in Politico when I woke up this morning. And there, right in the first paragraph a glaring error. The ?former Duke and Duchess of Sussex.? ! Well, Charles must have taken the titles away from Harry unconstitutionally and without anybody noticing, then! Didn?t really give me a lot of confidence about the author?s  accuracy in the rest of the article!

And comparing Meghan to Trump, Ye and Musk? Really? That just made me laugh. It?s an opinion piece in a journal and that?s all it is. Full stop.

And as I?ve said before, people throw the word ?narcissist? around with gay abandon in spite of having no psychiatric training. Even MD?s do so in tabloid articles. I take about as much notice of them as I do of this bloke. People with no background in psychiatry who put specific labels on others in the public eye when writing about them in articles are below contempt. And that?s my feeling about this article.
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