Sarah, Duchess of York General Chat

[Curryong]

Charles is 'fly in ointment' for any Andrew/Fergie remarriage according to this article. First of all, I don't believe they want to remarry anyway. Secondly, if Andrew is virtually put out to pasture in the new reign (due to Charles slimming down the monarchy,) then why should they care about whether he and Camilla like Fergie or not, and I don't believe they do like her, actually.

Prince Charles news: Charles 'fly in ointment' for Fergie and Andrew | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Andrew may well be ninth in succession by the time of the next reign and not have to ask anyone for permission to marry. However, as I said, I don't think they want to remarry. Also, there's no real closeness between William and the Yorks, unlike the assertions in this article, the cash for access debacle aside. Never seen William (or Kate) hanging around with the Yorkies at clubs or social occasions as Harry did, and Harry invited Fergie to his wedding.

[sandy]

I don't think they want to remarry.

Charles is a total hypocrite if this is true.

[Princess Cassandra]

I don't feel too confident in the veracity of this article.  The POW may voice his opinion and the Queen may or may not take his advice.  If anyone is the fly in the ointment, wouldn't it be Prince Phillip?

[Curryong]

Maybe the author of the article thinks Prince Philip won't last too much longer? Anyway, I don't believe in the article either.

[Princess Cassandra]

The DOE was very vocal about not expecting to live much longer but is healthier than anyone thought he'd be.  He may just surprise everyone! And I do believe he would be the fly in the ointment if Sarah and Andrew wee contemplating re-marriage. (not that I think they are)

[amabel]

The DOE was very vocal about not expecting to live much longer but is healthier than anyone thought he'd be.  He may just surprise everyone! And I do believe he would be the fly in the ointment if Sarah and Andrew wee contemplating re-marriage. (not that I think they are)

oh I think so. I think that the queen's forgiven Fergie, and tolerates her and is firenldy to her these days.  But Philip may forgive but he wotn forget and would never approve of a remarriage.  Not that I think Andrew wants a remarriage.  Fergie probably does...

[Princess Cassandra]

oh I think so. I think that the queen's forgiven Fergie, and tolerates her and is firenldy to her these days.  But Philip may forgive but he wotn forget and would never approve of a remarriage.  Not that I think Andrew wants a remarriage.  Fergie probably does...

Most likely the Queen understands that Fergie doesn't do exasperating things that are detrimental to the Royal Family on purpose. The thing is, that is my opinion, and maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong.  But the DOE would be more practical and know that she is not capable of good judgment and would, unintentionally or no, continue to do damage as time goes on.   

[amabel]

Most likely the Queen understands that Fergie doesn't do exasperating things that are detrimental to the Royal Family on purpose. The thing is, that is my opinion, and maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong.  But the DOE would be more practical and know that she is not capable of good judgment and would, unintentionally or no, continue to do damage as time goes on.   

of course the queen knows Fergie is stupid.... But she is probably more forigivng than he is...?...He'll never never do more than tolerate SF again

[Blue Clover]

It's probably a good time to review exactly what went wrong between Fergie and the Queen, other than toe-gate. I'll have to watch a video or something, there are plenty of them.

[amabel]

It's probably a good time to review exactly what went wrong between Fergie and the Queen, other than toe-gate. I'll have to watch a video or something, there are plenty of them.

there are dozens of things. She was always silly and vulgar and after a fairly short while she became an embarrassment.
She was having an affair wtht Steve Wyatt when she was pregnant, I think.. she then ditched Andrew who is the queens beloved son.  He wanted a divorce... Fergie is then caught fooling around iwht Johnny bryan.  She was an over spender.  She sold Access to Andy when they were divorced..

[Blue Clover]

@amabel Okay, now its all coming back to me - all the awful details.  :eyes: :o :no:

[Princess Cassandra]

And you can totally understand why she is a liability to the RF - she felt remorse and then went on to do more. When the going gets rough she self destructs.  She may be more stable now; hopefully she got some good analysis and counseling, but being back in the fold the way some of the media has suggested? No.

[sandy]

She is decidedly not back in the fold.

[Princess Cassandra]

Agreed. It was fake news by some of the rags, but I don't remember which ones. They came out right after Eugenie's wedding. 

[Curryong]

Sarah York and Zara Tindall hired by Hong Kong tycoon for 'influence'.


Hong Kong tycoon hires Queen's grandaughter Zara and Duchess of York for 'influence'

[wannable]

None of the mentioned are being paid to work for the DOC, DOL, SG, Tax Payers...

[Curryong]

Patrick Jephson has his say about Fergie and the Hong Kong billionaire and the PR money...

Greedy Del Boy royals and the grave danger of a monarchy for sale, writes PATRICK JEPHSON | Daily Mail Online

[Trudie]

Now that Andrew has been told to step down from duties and charity work it limits his perks and income. Will Sarah continue to hang on or will she finally move on to find a man who can be more of a benefit to her and her extravagant spending habits?

[dianab]

i think fergie has had her boyfriends through the years. so i've read.

from which i've read, she's very much well connected among very rich American, Italian and French people

[TLLK]

Now that Andrew has been told to step down from duties and charity work it limits his perks and income. Will Sarah continue to hang on or will she finally move on to find a man who can be more of a benefit to her and her extravagant spending habits?

:goodpost:

This is an interesting discussion topic.

Honestly I believe that Sarah will ultimately realize that her future is more financially secure with someone else, so I wouldn't be surprised if she moves on. Her overspending and accumulation of debts has been a problem for decades.  <_<

[Curryong]

As has been said, Fergie has had romances with others over the years. However, no-one seems to have suggested marriage and that Duchess title was still quite useful over in the US. Andrew must have a couple of million or so still in the bank, and a bird in the hand as they say....I think she will stay for the time being and see how things work out for Andrew. It would also be awful image wise for her to drop him like a hot potato within months.

However, if Andrew is still in the wilderness and his income has severely dropped in another twelve months or so, I can see Sarah moving on. He was good for connections to the wealthy with his Royal background. Most of that's in the toilet now.

[Trudie]

@ Curryong  I tend to agree with you but I can't help but think Sarah is waiting for Prince Philip to pass and try to regain her HRH just to keep wealthy sycophants to fund her.

[Curryong]

Yes, that is up in the air and I may be completely wrong. She and Andrew may indeed remarry after Prince Philip's death, and settle down together at Royal Lodge on a much reduced income. However, I'm not so sure that Andrew wants Fergie as a wife again, and for her the disadvantages of being with Andrew in future years may outweigh what have been obvious perks. I do believe that their financial arrangements with each other are probably quite unsavoury and that some defacto form of cash for access has gone on on Fergie's behalf.

However, even sycophants read newspapers and we don't know how many of them would be prepared to help her out with loans etc if all she can offer in return are not contacts with the BRF but instead a disgraced Royal pushed to the peripheries of Royal life. He's still a Prince of course and some may fall for it but I doubt it somehow.

[wannable]

The Queen will not have her son, the mother of her grandchildren living under a bridge. One can make easily a trust fund un breakable for up to all the years and lifetimes. Of course she will, she's a billionaire, once she passes away, just see. My parents did it with the rogue one, slippery hands with rich parents should be grateful about long term future think tanks

[Trudie]

I wonder if Andrew received a trust fund from the QM