Royal Wedding .................................Rumors Surface

FanDianaFancy · August 13, 2013, 02:43:03 PM

If,if the rumor are true of an engagement, if, big if because the papers rumor makes up things all the time, PAndrew and Sarah would demand the Abbey ...sentimental reasons , they , her parents were married there.
Yes, Sandor is right about how Sarah goes on and on about her wedding at the Abbey.
Rumors made by the papers. How many times did they say it was true that PW was engaged to K. When it finally did happen, they none knew about the trip, talk to her father and mother. The press was blindsided. Same thing for K's pregnancy. Until she got sick, they had not a clue. All the press did was reprpted constantly that PW was going to marry K hoping one time it would be true and they could claim they had the exclusive. They none had the exclusive. Same thing for K's pregnancy.

If this is all true, I still say the grandiose of a PW wedding for Eug and Bea, whichever one is first up, is not appropriate. They are no more , no less royal than Zara and Peter Phillips.
No,I am not British.
I do not live there.
I still say I do not know the people will take that . You are looking at three , lets estimate here, three grandiose weddings of PH, Eug, Bea over the next 6 -8 years.
Asuming all will get married, natural thing to do, natural progresstion in life, over the next 6- years earliest to 8 yrs. latest.
I think Eug and Bea will get married before PH. It will be like a grandiose, over the top wedding like PW every two-three years. Add PW and K will most likely have another baby, their spare, in two-three years. The huge weddings would be asking a lot of the people and country. Unemployment up? Prices ? Social situations up? Hey, lets let them eat cake and we shall beg in the streets for HRH is marrying today sort of thing. It will be BRF all the time living it up all the time.
Then there is the question of where Eug and family and Bea and family will live?
Downsizing BRF? Hardly.
Perception is everything.
PE and family seem more off and out on their own. They do not live in Kennsignton P or CH or St.JP. PE and Sophie work for their keep.
PAnne is off on her own and her children have their own homes and lives and PAnne works for her keep and the crown and her country and her subjects.
Ok,none of these people are Middle-Class or living in some regular upscale neighborhood .
Isn't Zara 's home an estate on her mother's grounds?
Perception is everything.
Peter lives?
PE and Sophies 's Bagshot Park is an English estate ...funded by? Given by HRH, QEII?
Still, perception is everything and it looks as if PAnne and family and PEdward and his young family will continue to follow PAnne's path.

Eri · August 13, 2013, 04:31:49 PM

^ And I will never get why Willy is any better than Bea and his wedding granted all the money spend on that Circus and people just sucked it up ... he is no better than Bea until Liz and Chuck prove Mortal !!! Let's bring it down :

1. Bea = Liz's grandchild
2.Will = Liz's grandchild

1. Will a Prince
2. Bea a Princess

So it seems to me she is deserving of everything Willy got !!!

cinrit · August 13, 2013, 04:43:38 PM

^^ On a personal level, William and Beatrice are equals, as both are grandchildren of the Queen. On a Royal level, William is destined to be King someday, so that does mean that he's going to get special attention. But then, simply by virtue of being a girl, if Beatrice had a brother, on a Royal level, he would get special attention, too.

Cindy

Honesty · August 13, 2013, 05:16:24 PM

Bea is to term a phrase, a minor royal. She is no less a person than William. Most folks in England think she is a good example for others.

FanDianaFancy · August 13, 2013, 05:16:56 PM

Easy answer there Eri.

Eug and Bea and Zara and Peter and the minor kids, Lady Lousie and Viscount Severn, are NOT the heirs to the throne. They are not next in line .
PC is no more no less impt than PAnne, PAndrew and PEdward as a person. No doubt QEII and PP loves all of their four children equally. PC is no more, no less in these ways.

Prince Charles will one day be King of England, Charles #____. His spouse will be Queen Camilla (Camilla, QueenConsort is the real term blahblah...)
PC,like him or not, like it or not, will be King of England.
PH, PW, Eug, Bea, Zara, Peter -first grandchild of QEII and PP, Lady Louise and Viscount Severn are no more, no less loved, wanted by QEII and PP. We can be sure of that. they are all the same as grandkids to QEII and.

Pricne William and all his ,many titles will be,is secon d in line to be King William #____ of England one day.
His child, HRH Prince George , is third in line and will one day be King George #_____ of England.
PH is the son of a future King of England.

Pretty easy to understand this.

PMargaret was no more no less wanted and loved by QE Bowles Lyon.
After E became QEII, Margaret starting loosing rank only in line and not in love, attention by The QE Mother and QEII.
PMargaret's kids were , no doubt close and wanted and loved by The QE Mother and QEII, but by rank, the reinging monarch's children, PC, PAnne, PAndrew, PEdward , lives pushed forward by the press etc.
PMargarets' daughter did not have a wedding like her first cousins: PAnne, PAndrew, PCharles.

The siblings of PC were all where PHenry is now.

Eug , Bea are simply not impt in rank. Lesser royals. Like it or not, it is how it works.
Move on down, move on down the line.

The big fuss by some media and some of us here, royalists' fans or not, is K, future Queen Catherine of England, needs to step up her role and duties for she is who she is.
She is not Kaite Whales married to Billy Whales.
They cannot have their cake, call for utmost privacy for example, and eat it too.

The rumors of PW and K not rasing their children as he was raised, with wanting less media coverage is baloney.
He cannot hide and shield his child, HRH, Prince George, future King of England , away from his subjects.

Eug and Bea can get married in a smaller way,more private which would be appropriate and live a more quiet and
independent life and one free of media coverage and every little detail being covered. Everything they do,say up for criticism.
They all really have a freedom there that PW, K,Ph and his future wife will not have have. PH's kids will have less media coverage and media and people being critical of them, but they still have some. They will be where Eug and Bea are now.

PW can get all of that priviacy too. Just give up his place in line. PH too. PC too. Just give their place. There is no chance on God's Green Earth of that ever happening. One has to take all the bad with all the good according to their rank in life there.
Yeah,PW has to take al the bad and all the good. Yeah, but look at all he gets in return.

Zara, Peter, Eug, Bea can marry who they want and name they kids want they want.
They can live where they want .
PW has been given Anmer Hall,KennsingtonP apts, the biggest ones, etc. and more to come as it has to be because he is who he is . He has also recieved new titles befitting for a future king.

Eug, Bea, need to get into a more private life, no grandiose wedding, find their way , live their lives like PAnne has her children doing and PAnne's kids seem happy, together, accomplished people.
I cannot stand PAnne.
She did very well with her children. PAnne also works hard for her keep and to be QEII's daughter.
There should be no royal roles for Eug and Bea as there are not for Zara , Peter.

I really think it was a diservice for PAndrew's girls to be titled princess.
PEdward's girl and son are not styled princess and prince.
I guess there is no right that a born prince, son of the current sovereign, must have his kids titled prince or princess.

PHarry perhaps will not have his kids ( a long way off) styled prince and princess.
They are going to be way down in line for throne after their grandfather,King Charles, Uncle William and Williams ' kids:
Prince George and however many other kids K and W will have.
Yes, I know I am posting here of people who are not even here or close to being here such as PH kids or PW other kids he will have. Just saying to make a point.
PC becoming K is a while off.
PW is a while off.PG is awhile off. Like it was said, PGeorge wont' be king until say, 40 years from now. He will be the king going into the next century.

Eri · August 13, 2013, 05:25:06 PM

Quote from: cinrit on August 13, 2013, 04:43:38 PM
^^ On a personal level, William and Beatrice are equals, as both are grandchildren of the Queen. On a Royal level, William is destined to be King someday, so that does mean that he's going to get special attention. But then, simply by virtue of being a girl, if Beatrice had a brother, on a Royal level, he would get special attention, too.

Cindy

"One day" means nothing !!! I can name a lot of people who "one day" should have been Kings/ Queens who never were !!! Bea is deserving of everything Willy is because again until TWO people are alive he is no better than her !!!

FanDianaFancy · August 13, 2013, 05:34:01 PM

No Eri.

You are missing the point. I don't how better to explain it .

I used the PMaragarets' kids as an example of way back when they and their first cousins :pC,PA, PA, PE, were not married and had kids.
PMargarets ' kids are way, way down the line. Impossible to to get there.

One day does make a be difference in terms of rank.

To over exxagerate. For joking...LOL!!! Well, no. No one knows who will live on. It is pretty sure that all the cast of cahracters will live on as planned: QEII, PC then and then PW and then PG and next in line, PW's baby #2, baby #3. then PH and his first born, second, so forth. PW 's line is teh line of the future monarch.
These times though, unlike other times during royalty, the plague and the pox are not issues. No one can behead another.
PC would have beheaded Diana within a year of PH 's birth .
Andrew would have tried to have Charles beheaded way back before he even amrried.
Anne would relaly be sour face because she would have married to prince somebody in Europe , like promised and bethrohed at brith. Not too much use for a girl.

DaFluffs · August 13, 2013, 08:58:35 PM

@FDF.... beheading...... :lol: :lol:

chavita · August 14, 2013, 03:32:51 PM

This is exciting!! I hope it's true. :happy:

Limabeany · August 14, 2013, 04:05:55 PM

The beheading or the wedding? :hehe:

Eri · August 14, 2013, 06:00:53 PM

Quote from: FanDianaFancy on August 13, 2013, 05:34:01 PM
No Eri.

You are missing the point. I don't how better to explain it .

I used the PMaragarets' kids as an example of way back when they and their first cousins :pC,PA, PA, PE, were not married and had kids.
PMargarets ' kids are way, way down the line. Impossible to to get there.

One day does make a be difference in terms of rank.

To over exxagerate. For joking...LOL!!! Well, no. No one knows who will live on. It is pretty sure that all the cast of cahracters will live on as planned: QEII, PC then and then PW and then PG and next in line, PW's baby #2, baby #3. then PH and his first born, second, so forth. PW 's line is teh line of the future monarch.
These times though, unlike other times during royalty, the plague and the pox are not issues. No one can behead another.
PC would have beheaded Diana within a year of PH 's birth .
Andrew would have tried to have Charles beheaded way back before he even amrried.
Anne would relaly be sour face because she would have married to prince somebody in Europe , like promised and bethrohed at brith. Not too much use for a girl.

Funny post but we don't have to go so far back in time ... The current Monarch was never meant to be Queen !!! She was meant to be a Lady and to not be remembered ... but her uncle Abdicating changed it all !!!

FanDianaFancy · August 14, 2013, 06:29:26 PM

You are right Eri. Yes.

But QEII, PCharles, PWilliam, PGeorge, PHarry, PAndrew all have to die before Eug or Bea can be Queen of Enlgand. I forget which girl is the eldest. Is this correct in rank ?
Yes, that is correct. All of PC descendants are first and would have to die. Then PAndrew and his descendants . If he too and his descedants all die, then PEdward will be Edward, #_____, King of Enlgand and the heir and spare will be his two kids.
All of this is very highly unlikely. There are better chances of you, me becoming friends with Duchess Kaite.
With QEII, her uncle abdicated and he had no pure children of the nobility.I say that to say, suppose he mareid of the nobility and had children adn nthe mother died. Then those kids would have been in line , direct line.
He could have and would have still had to abdicate to marry that woman. His children of a woman of the nobility would not have abdicated anything.

PCharles, PWilliam, PGeorge and PHarry are not abdicating their place in line.
PHarry will getmarried one day and have children one day.
I assume within the next 7 years. PH,PE,PB seem in no hurry and don't see have found their soulmates

cinrit · August 14, 2013, 07:13:35 PM

I used to not remember which was the older one, either, but I remember now by alphabet ... B comes before E, so Beatrice comes before Eugenie. That's probably cheating, but at least I remember now. :D

Cindy

NotWaitieKatie · August 15, 2013, 02:18:11 AM

Quote from: LIMABEANY on August 14, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
The beheading or the wedding? :hehe:

:laugh10: I almost fell out of my chair.

memememe · August 15, 2013, 03:18:10 AM

Why is William more important than Bea and thus gets more:

Because only two people have to die for him to become King - Charles and Elizabeth

For Harry - there are now four people - Charles and Elizabeth of course + William and George - so he has moved down the pecking order

For Beatrice - there are six people who have to die - Charles, Elizabeth, William, George, Harry and Andrew]

Simple really.

Sandor · August 15, 2013, 11:51:45 AM

Quote from: Eri on August 14, 2013, 06:00:53 PM

Funny post but we don't have to go so far back in time ... The current Monarch was never meant to be Queen !!! She was meant to be a Lady and to not be remembered ... but her uncle Abdicating changed it all !!!

Elizabeth was the Heiress Presumptive all along, meaning that she would be Queen unless her uncle married and produced children of his own.
There were rumors that Edward VIII couldn't or wouldn't have any children, so Elizabeth was next in line (and consequently, much more important than Margaret).

When does the Queen return to London? I believe that's when any announcements will be made, concerning either Beatrice's wedding or George's christening.

chavita · August 15, 2013, 02:36:37 PM

Quote from: LIMABEANY on August 14, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
The beheading or the wedding? :hehe:

:lol:

pandaanda · August 15, 2013, 08:37:19 PM

Andrew is here as well, only Eugenie is missing. It means
1. You need Dave Clarke at Balmoral as husband to be for Princess Beatrice
2. Eugenie is certainly with Cressida and company in Africa

amabel · August 16, 2013, 06:03:01 AM

Quote from: Sandor on August 15, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: Eri on August 14, 2013, 06:00:53 PM

Funny post but we don't have to go so far back in time ... The current Monarch was never meant to be Queen !!! She was meant to be a Lady and to not be remembered ... but her uncle Abdicating changed it all !!!

Elizabeth was the Heiress Presumptive all along, meaning that she would be Queen unless her uncle married and produced children of his own.
There were rumors that Edward VIII couldn't or wouldn't have any children, so Elizabeth was next in line (and consequently, much more important than Margaret).

Exactly. Until an heir is Born, the next person in the line is "in line for it" and can't be sure that he or she might not suddenly become King or queen. And since David, as POW was getting to middle age, without any signs of marrying a suitable girl, it was looking very likely that he would not marry and so the throne would pass ot hs brother and thence to his brother's eldest child Elizabeth. And she would not be "a Lady", sicne she had the title "Princess Eliz of York" from birth. Had her uncle David had an accident in the 30s, and been say killed riding a horse, (IIRC George V tried to make him give up racing) then Eliz's father Albert would have become King and then Eliz would have been pretty definitely likely to be queen, unless her mother produced a son.

Queen Camilla · August 16, 2013, 10:24:11 AM

IMO, Beatrice deserves/will get a large wedding because she is the Queen's eldest granddaughter who is a princess.

Beatrice is always helping her grandmother, so HER grandmother might want to give her granddaughter a large wedding. After all, why let the daughter-in-laws & granddaugher-in-laws wear the family jewelry but not the blood granddaughter.

BTW, William has a high risk job and can easily get killed. Harry is in the army and can get killed and George can catch any number of lethal childhood illnesses and die.

All the Wales except Charles have been eliminated. Then Beatrice is 1st in line of her generation.

She is after all the daughter of the Duke of York. Queen Mary married the Duke of York & their sons became Kings. Elizabeth was the daughter of the Duke of York & she became Queen.

Actually, I don't think the rumor is true. Beatrice was riding with her grandmother because Phillip was still in Sandringham.

amabel · August 16, 2013, 01:17:13 PM

Harry has been on 2 active missions, and probably wont get another one. William I'm sure the risks aer very low, or he wouldn't be doing the job.. and as for George - very few children die young nowadays in the west, thankfully and he will have the best of medical attention. it seems to me quite odd to be "writing off the Wasles line" in this way?
Beatrice's chances of being queen are almost nil. And I doubt if she will have a big wedding. The York girls unfortunately carry Fergie in their baggage so they are not particularly popular.
As for "not allowing the daughters in law to wear the family jewellery, and not the blood daughters or grand daguthers, that's the way it is. Not that Bea can't wear royal jewels, of course she can, but the wives of the heir and his sons are more important than a granddauther whose chance of being queen is almost nothing.

Eri · August 16, 2013, 02:43:07 PM

Liz adores her granddaughters :no: what in the world did I just read? Did I just read to Liz Bea is less important than a woman it would take just 5 minutes of Willy signing a paper to be out of the family? :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: Judging by Zara's Tiara and big wedding Bea's will be EPIC !!! :Jen:

http://madhattery.royalroundup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-0730-britain-zara4.jpg

georgiana996 · August 16, 2013, 02:45:37 PM

Omg I think this is the first time I agree with eri :unsure: :eyes:

its true though bea will have it in the abbey there's no way around that

Eri · August 16, 2013, 02:47:09 PM

^ Bea will rave good bey both Willy's and Harry's wives like Ann did !!! :lol:

Felicia · August 16, 2013, 03:03:05 PM

Highly highly unlikely she will have an Abbey wedding.

I would have thought almost certainly St George's chapel and reception at Windsor.

Yes she will get to wear a lovely tiara if she wants-but that's it