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http://dianasjewels.net/pearlnecklaces.htm

Thank you Lindelle for sharing wonderful pictures of Diana!  The jewelry is breathtaking!!!   :thumbsup:

Your very welcome Emme.

Lovely photos of the Late Diana, Princess of Wales - thanks for sharing!

Lindelle thank you for sharing all these lovely photos. Like the pearls she wore Diana was as unique and as beautiful as each and every pearl.

Indeed, unique like every pearl!  :) :flower:

 :P  What lovely pics of Diana.  What a STAR Diana was.  Love all the pearls.   :)

Thanks for sharing Lindelle.   :heart: :blowkiss:

Hey guys, your all very welcome.
I hadn't seen some of them myself.

How many of these jewels were Diana's personal property?

Don't know.

Quote from: Lindelle on October 01, 2010, 04:29:29 AM
Don't know.

she had hte use of royal jewels as part of her divorce settlement, but obivously they weren't hers.  I think that she probably woudl not wear the jewellery that was her "own" on public occasions...

I tend to agree that's probably the go.

Quote from: Lindelle on October 02, 2010, 07:06:05 AM
I tend to agree that's probably the go.

I think that I read soemwhere that when William was born Charles bought her a necklace to commemorate the birith but I think that it is one that we've never seen since seh probalby only wore it at private occasions...

Wonder which one?

Quote from: Lindelle on October 02, 2010, 09:15:45 AM
Wonder which one?

I beleive it was a pearl necklace with some other stone in the centre.. nad I think he also gave her a charm bracelet with somehting on it as a memento of W's birth....

I remember her wearing a charm bracelet at times.

 :thankyou:

The pictures were wonderful to look at I think my favorite is/was the 7 strand choker w/rubies and diamond spacers... stunning!!!

I to wonder what happend to her actually jewelery apart from the engagement ring Harry took and that which belonged to the royal family...

Click on the slideshow.

http://www.princess-diana.co.uk/special-theprincessofjewellery.htm

Beautiful, Lindelle!  Thanks for sharing.

What a woman.

Quote from: Lindelle on September 17, 2010, 12:11:47 PM
http://dianasjewels.net/pearlnecklaces.htm

What a beauty...she is!
I also had a look at the ear rings...and especially this one:

http://dianasjewels.net/Earrings/0000303625-001.jpg

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You're welcome.

http://www.dianasjewels.net/pearlearrings.htm

Diana wore jewelery well-it looks like she's wearing the jewlery instead of it wearing her, if that makes any sense.

Plenty of sense here Lothwen.
Like when they used to say Raquel Welch could make a hesham bag look good.

For anyone curious about the necklace Charles gave Diana to celebrate Williams birth you can see it in the photos of baby William and Diana in which she was wearing a light brown dress. I believe these were the first photos of William. As for many of Diana's pearls I remember reading that she often wore fakes along with real ones. The only pearl necklace I remember her wearing that was not hers was the one she wore as she left BP for her honeymoon. That pearl choker belonged to her sister Lady Sarah.

Trudie, yes she did in fact wear a lot of fake jewellery.
Personally I didn't care too much for that particular necklace Charles gave her.

Quote from: Trudie on October 13, 2010, 12:21:24 AM
As for many of Diana's pearls I remember reading that she often wore fakes along with real ones.

COOL................. .sticky
The beauty is only visible with the heart.

Oooohhhhhh, I like that saying Winnie.

Quote from: Mike on October 01, 2010, 04:26:24 AM
How many of these jewels were Diana's personal property?

Mike, I don't know if the Queen ever gave Diana any pearls because the late Queen Mary was extremely fond of them, but I did read somewhere that the Queen gave Diana a tiara worn by Queen Mary and following the divorce Diana had to give back the tiara.  I believe that many of the jewels owned by the RF are actually owned by the Crown.

As I recall, one of her most famous tiaras belonged to her brother and she had to give that back.  That's what prompted my question, how much of her jewelry was really hers?  I don't know.   


:halloween1:  Oh, look.  It's Camilla.     :biggrin:

Quote from: Mike on October 15, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
As I recall, one of her most famous tiaras belonged to her brother and she had to give that back.  That's what prompted my question, how much of her jewelry was really hers?  I don't know.   


:halloween1:  Oh, look.  It's Camilla.     :biggrin:

most of the jewellery she wore belonged to the crown.  If she got presents from foreign rulers they were considered gifts to the crown and not ot her personally..  The tiara she wore at her wedding was Spencer family property.  Charles did give her jewellery that was "personal" and she may have bought some other stuff herself but I'd say that most of what we've seen her wearing publicly was "crown jewellery" and not her own...

Quote from: amabel on October 02, 2010, 09:11:08 AM
I think that I read soemwhere that when William was born Charles bought her a necklace to commemorate the birith but I think that it is one that we've never seen since seh probalby only wore it at private occasions...

It is the pearl necklace with the diamond pave heart she is wearing in the picture of her holding William and the one immediately below.

It also occurs to me that as a 'birth present' for producing the heir to the throne, that necklace was not exactly lavish.

The Site:
http://dianasjewels.net/
PS.You could see more than pearls.

The wedding gifts she received from the Saudis and Gulf emirates were Diana's personal property and would not have returned to The Queen. These jewels, and others she received during her marriage, now belong to William and Harry.

The royal pieces (Cambridge Lover's Knot Tiara, Art-Deco Diamond and Emerald Choker, Seven-Strand Diamond and Sapphire Pearl Choker, 'Prince of Wales Feathers' Diamond Pendant) were also wedding gifts, but were considered to be permanent loans. Diana was allowed to keep these jewels for her lifetime in her divorce agreement, but they were returned to The Queen after her untimely death since her children were minors and unmarried.
For I remember the divorce agreement was the royal jewels after Diana died belongs directely to William as he's future king.

The most of her jewels were her personal property, she buys/purchase the most for herself, I read in somewhrere (in Daily Mail) the Van Cleef & Arpels was one of her favorite jewelry. I remember Patrick Jephson talking about Diana go to jewelry too.

(sigh) beautiful dianab.
Thankyou.

dianab,  :thanks: for your link.  http://dianasjewels.net/rings.htm

I see, even if Harry did pick out the Saphire and Diamond engagement ring, it still belonged to William because of the terms in Diana's divorce settlement.

Hale that was awesome!

 :doublewave:  Lindelle, that was dianab's link.  It certainly answered the question for me about Diana's engagement ring.  Oooo....actually I wonder if anyone else knows that?  I'll post it in the Wedding/Engagement thread.

:vday4:  Thanks once again dianab.

Well I thanked her too :faint:

Princess Diana's Diamond and Pearl Necklace Up for Auction (https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/princess-dianas-diamond-and-pearl-necklace-up-for-auction-w464351/)

wish there was more info on the details of why it was on auction, ie: for charity, who had it prior, as I doubt the boys would have put it up unless it was for charity. someday we'll be sorry pieces like that arent in a museum.

I thought I had read that Diana hadn't purchased the Swan Lake suite of diamond and pearls necklace and earrings at the time of her death and have found something to back that up!

On the Block: Diana's Swan Lake Suite | The Court Jeweller (http://www.thecourtjeweller.com/2017/02/on-block-dianas-swan-lake-suite.html)

Diana was still waiting for Garrards, the Royal jewellers at the time, to finish off the matching earrings to the suite at the time of the ballet and never wore the necklace again of course. The set never belonged to the boys. Garrards must have allowed Diana to wear the necklace for the occasion and then by arrangement give it back the next day.

In the chaos and misery surrounding Diana's death this particular suite was left in limbo. The boys didn't buy it of course and the Royal family certainly wouldn't have wanted it. According to the above article Garrards eventually sold the pieces to a private purchaser but they were resold later because that owner's wife felt too terribly sad when wearing them and thinking about their history.

I think the necklace is very sweet but the pearls are just overly large for my taste. Several people at the time of this latest auction said the same.

I've read that Garrards later lost the custom of the BRF because some jewellery belonging to the Danish royals (a tiara I think) was taken in for cleaning there in London and embarrassingly no trace of the piece could be found at the firm's premises afterwards. Apparently and unsurprisingly there was the most terrible stink about it though the scandal was kept virtually under wraps and the DRF were compensated by Garrards with a new tiara that was an exact copy of the old. The historical value was gone forever of course.

@Curryong- Do you think that the necklace could have been convertible and used as a small tiara at some point?

I agree with @Curryong that the pearls on the necklace would have been better not on it, I think it would have been a nice, understated but elegant as just the diamonds themselves.

As for it being a tiara, I suppose @TLLK but by then she was pretty much done wearing tiaras. Depending had she lived on how things with her and Charles Spencer got on, she might have needed one for the odd affair that required one if he refused to lend out the Spencer  tiara (which he was making it harder and harder for her to get over the years, a great shame, as she was made to wear it, IMO).

Brings up an interesting question, have any of his girls worn it in public yet?

Sorry I'm late again here, as usual. Been celebrating Australia Day!  I have never heard that the Swan Lake necklace was designed to convert to a tiara, TLLK. It seems to be a bit fiddly looking and the wrong shape for that somehow. I really think that Diana was in the mood where she was finished with all the royals bar her boys. Tiaras weren't on her mind.

I have never seen any tiaras on any of the heads of Charles S's girls. My guess is that, like most aristo families who still have a tiara or two, they will be seen on the heads of the daughters as brides and then popped back in the vault, unless Prince Charles starts having mass tiara events again as King.

Hope that you enjoyed your Australia Day fun @Curryong. (Will not mention shrimps and  "barbies." ) :wink:

I agree with both of you that she was likely done with tiaras for the foreseeable future. Had she lived long enough to see her son's coronation, she could have always used one of the Spencer tiaras for the event.