The Plantagenets 1154-1495 Henry II to Richard III

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So Why would Cecily say that Edward IV was not legitimate? I dont think that he was.  Was she pressured by Richard?  DID she perhaps feel that a boy King like Edward V was not a good idea and that the boy would be safer if he did not become King and Richard, a strong adult man, ruled?

I've never understood the exact reason why she wasn't denying the remarks that the Earl of Warwick was making  which were circulating as far back to when Edward married Elizabeth Woodville as it definitely made herself look terrible. I believe it was that she believed her reported favorite son George (Duke of Clarence) was the one who should have been king over Edward. She was very upset when George was found guilty of treason and sentenced to death. (Not that Edward really had any other option if he wanted to retain the throne.)

Cecily Neville, known as the 'Rose of Raby'

Warwick was in the process of negotiating with the French king for the hand of Bona of Savoy for Edward when the king revealed that he had secretly married Elizabeth Woodville, the impoverished widow of a Lancastrian knight in 1464. Cecily was furious while the proud and haughty Warwick simmered at his humiliation. Further frustrated by Edward's social advancement of the Queen's many needy relations, Warwick, and Cecily's son, George, Duke of Clarence, switched their allegiance to the House of Lancaster. Warwick married his elder daughter, Isabel, to George and his other daughter, Anne Neville, to Henry VI's son, Edward, Prince of Wales. A rumour began to circulate that Edward was illegitimate, the son of Duchess Cecily and an archer by the name of Blaybourne with whom it was said, she had indulged in an affair when the Duke of York was stationed at Rouen, which would have made Clarence the rightful King of England. Cecily seems to have said little on the matter in public, but travelled to Sandwich, intending to reconcile her warring sons.

In recent years, research into the issue of Edward's possible illegitimacy has revealed that from 14 July to 21 August 1441, the approximate time of Edward's conception, Richard, Duke of York, was on campaign at Pontoise which was several days' march from Rouen, where Cecily lodged. Adding weight to this theory, the christening celebration of Edmund, Earl of Rutland, the second son of Richard and Cecily, was a lavish affair, while the christening of the couple's firstborn son Edward was a low-key ceremony in a small chapel in Rouen.

Warwick, allied to Margaret of Anjou, invaded England and reinstated Henry VI on the throne for a short period (October 1470 - April 1471) However, Edward regained his throne and Warwick was slain at Barnet in 1471. The festering ill-feeling between Edward and his brother George was never really healed, for, in 1478, George was condemned to death for treason. Cecily appealed to Edward that his execution should not be a public spectacle and he is said to have been drowned in a butt of malmsey wine in the Tower of London in February 1478.

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Eleanor of England (1215-1275) was the daughter of King John of England. She married Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester. After her husband's demise in 1265, The Countess of Leicester became a nun at Montargis Abbey.

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At some tournaments King Edward III liked to fight incognito, disguised as an ordinary warrior.   

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The Wedding of King Richard I of England and Berengaria of Navarre at the Chapel of St. George in Limassol, Cyprus occurred on May 12, 1191.

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Archbishop Reynolds of Canterbury placed the crown of Edward the Confessor onto the head of Edward III on February 1, 1327. The crown was fitted with extra padding to ensure that it did not topple off. Edward was just fourteen.

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After King Edward V was proclaimed king in 1483, why was Earl Rivers arrested?

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After King Edward V was proclaimed king in 1483, why was Earl Rivers arrested?

Rivers was accompanying the young King down to London with the rest of Edward?s retinue. Richard and his men intercepted them. Richard hated Rivers and the rest of the Queen?s first family, the Wydvilles. He was determined that Edward was to be under his control and no other, which would have been impossible with Rivers alive and having a support base in London. So he arrested the young King?s maternal uncle (and others) and soon summarily executed them.

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Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine, the wife of King Henry II of England, was a patron of the Abbey of Fontevrault for sixty years.

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When King Edward I was released from captivity after the Second Baron's war, he retook Gloucester and Worcester.

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At some tournaments King Edward III liked to fight incognito, disguised as an ordinary warrior.
   
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Why was Queen Anne Neville dominated?   
The Powerless Anne Neville Why Was She Dominated? - YouTube   
     
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Why was Queen Anne Neville dominated?   
The Powerless Anne Neville Why Was She Dominated? - YouTube   
     
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Why was Anne Neville dominated? Because, like the vast majority of medieval women, she had no power. She was told who to marry and when widowed that still continued. She had an extremely ruthless man as her second husband, and as she lay dying of probable tuberculosis she was troubled by fears that she was being poisoned in order that her husband would be able to marry his niece Elizabeth. I think in the circumstances anyone would feel dominated!

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King John signed the Magna Carta at Runnymede   
Mary Evans King John signs the Magna Carta at Runnymede 10825835   

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In 1392 the citizens of the City of London gave King Richard II a one-humped camel and 
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Lady Grey (Elizabeth Woodville) presented King Edward IV with a letter.   
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King Henry III replying to the Prtelates     
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Queen Philippa was the wife of King Edward III of England.   
Queen Philippa's Hainnault servants had left after her wedding. 
Wantelet de Maunay, who had been her page at Valeciennes, stayed to become her carver.   
His name was anglicized to Sir Walter Manny.

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In October 1216 King John crossed the Gulf of Wash. He retreated from the troops of Prince Louis.   
In October 1216, John Lackland crossing the marshy gulf of Wash, retreating from the troops of Prince Louis the Lion Stock Photo - Alamy

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King Richard II developed elaborations on court protocol.     
He insisted on new forms of address such as "Your Highness" and "Your Majesty".

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King Louis IX of France had been planning a new crusade.   
The future King Edward I was trying to get money to fit out a crusader army.   
He took a seventeen thousand pound loan from King Louis IX, repayable from the revenues of Bordeaux.

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At Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick's castle in Middleham, Richard, Duke of Gloucester (King Richard III) underwent his aristocratic apprenticeship in the arts of war and diplomacy.

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Henry III was the first Plantagenet to be born in England.     
In 1264 Simon de Montfort captured his brother-in-law King Henry and Henry's son Prince Edward.
Simon established a military dictatorship.

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New BBC production on the  three women central to the War of the Roses: Margaret Beaufort, Elizabeth Woodville and Anne Neville. This episode was free if anyone is interested.

(Free Episode) Philippa Gregory's The Real White Queen and Her Rivals | Episode 1| BBC Select - YouTube

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The primates of London and Canterbury argued about which of them should be     
given the presence at the wedding and coronation of Anne of Bohemia.     
Anne of Bohemia was the wife of King Richard II of England.     
The quarrel was resolved by the primates of London and Canterbury sharing the honors.   

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In 1419 King Henry V requested that the clergy collectively pray for protection   
from black magic. He became a frequent visitor to holy sites.