In today's world, let's say in 20 years William is married to Kate but unhappy so he takes up a mistress and he had a baby by the mistress, what do you think would happen?
Depend on a mistress, I guess. If she were super discreet - nothing, but if he talked to the tabloids - drama of the century. MO.
I seriously believe there's no way to be discreet in this already media soaked age, and I wonder if it'll be more saturated in 20+ years. You never know, by the time William is 40, then it may be legal to put cameras in all the rooms in the royal residences, celeb homes, people's homes (by the government or licensed papparrazos) and shown on global tv or internet as in a true 24/7 reality show :blink:
I know that sounds like a major Big Brother phobia but now when I sit, type, and think about what we have now and how technology progresses half the time if not more, it's possible :cry:
Nothing. The baby and mother will live in a country house supported by William but will have no claim whatsoever to the throne.
See...Katie can still have her country house and illeg...children.
i hope he'll marry kate for the sake of all decent available women.
To answer the question, What is a prince, or a king, got his mistress pregnant?, I would say, he is no King. He is a Fertilizer.
Quote from: sambarumba on November 22, 2007, 10:48:13 AM
i hope he'll marry kate for the sake of all decent available women.
Food for thought: May be the boy should marry Miss Middleton and take her off the street, for the sake of all decent available gentlemen. May be....?
Well of course it wouldn't be moral supportive situation but it can happen. I'm sure if we look back in our royal history in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc, we will find something like this happening. Heck Henry VIII married all or most of his mistresses eventually and had children by them :lol:
He has to assume the childrem and be a good father...It is all that I hope for him :shrug:
That would be nice :hug:
It's a slightly different question I know but with the same idea. If William got a woman pregnant before marriage would he have to marry her then? He is the future Head of the Church of England but what if the couple did not wish to marry?
No.. He does not have to marry her.
Yeah but wouldn't he be taken out of the line of succession for that?
No. Why should he be taken out of the line of succession for impregnating a woman? For years, kings have done that - it isn't a secret. It may not be right but it isn't a crime.
I think something like this happened with one of the Grand Ducal families in Liechinstein. Her name was Tessy Antony and while the name of the Prince eludes me, she and him were married and she is known as a countess, not a princess. It's essentially a morganatic marriage.
Much as Charles and Camilla's is....IMO
Quote from: PrincessKLS on January 17, 2008, 09:22:28 PM
Yeah but wouldn't he be taken out of the line of succession for that?
No, but his child couldn't inherit.
In the past illegitimate children were given titles and were called godchildren. Today would anyone care? look at Prince Albert of Monaco. His little boy can't inherit anything but what his father leaves for him in a private capacity.
If he got a woman pregnant and married her after the birth, would the child be an heir to the throne?
QuoteI think something like this happened with one of the Grand Ducal families in Liechinstein. Her name was Tessy Antony and while the name of the Prince eludes me, she and him were married and she is known as a countess, not a princess. It's essentially a morganatic marriage.
That's Prince Louis of Luxembourg...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Luxembourg
his girlfriend Tessy Anthony became pregnant in 2005, she was 20 and he 19. She had the baby, they got married 6 months later, and had another baby the following year. Tessy was not made a countess, but as his wife, is known as "Tessy de Nassau" (name of the Luxembourg grand-ducal family.)
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The media, especially the press, would want to know every single detail even down to the exact hour and location where the Royal got the lady pregnant.
I don't know about 'prince or King', but I believe Princess Madeleine of Sweden delivered her first child less than nine months after the wedding day to Chris O Neill. Same with Madeleine's brother Prince Carl Philip and his rather controversial fiancé, Sofia Helquist.
Fortunately the Swedes are a very tolerant bunch and nobody turned a hair. Sweden also does not have a rapacious press like that of Britain.
Same with the now divorced Louis and Tessy of Luxembourg, who were very young when they wed. If they had anything like the British tabloids there would have been an almighty scandal at the time.
^^^Young and with their first born at their wedding. :)
https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+of+tessy+and+louis+wedding&tbm=isch&imgil=a6ji1fhSlaTliM%253A%253B2v8fVTt2H1DgjM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Forderofsplendor.blogspot.com%25252F2011%25252F09%25252Fwedding-wednesday-louis-and-tessys.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=a6ji1fhSlaTliM%253A%252C2v8fVTt2H1DgjM%252C_&usg=__xiShjD71wrt97pnAfgajIyTcGWQ%3D&biw=1280&bih=691&ved=0ahUKEwjUl7ymrdPVAhUP-GMKHSCqD38QyjcIRQ&ei=9tKPWdTEM4_wjwOg1L74Bw#imgrc=a6ji1fhSlaTliM:
Thanks TLLK. I'd forgotten that Louis and Tessy had actually produced their first boy before the nuptials. Luxembourg is a Roman Catholic country and quite conservative. Grand Duchess Josephine Charlotte would probably have absolutely had kittens about that if she'd still been around. It caused a bit of a stir but I hesitate to think what would have happened if a 21year old Harry had wed Chelsy under the same circumstances. The Sun and Daily Fail would have feasted on the fallout for months!
I am not sure any monarchy today would be able to sustain the notion that there are "illegitimate children". The uproar and the interventions of the courts would probably put paid to that. The best they could do was persuade the prince to get married as soon as possible...short gun wedding style. Otherwise the notion of an "illegitimate" child would rankle many, many people who are born outside wedlock.
They certainly would have a hard time bearing up under an onslaught similar to the British Press. However, it's quite well known that Albert of Monaco has illegitimate older children than his twins with Princess Charlene.
The late Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands had at least one known illegitimate child, as has ex King Albert of the Belgians. It was a long running dispute with his illegitimate daughter who just wanted to be recognised by him that, besides illhealth, pretty well decided Albert on abdication, not the actual existence of the woman herself.
There have also been strong rumours in the past about Prince Philip and Juan Carlos of Spain also having some progeny out of marriage, so I'm not sure the populations of the countries that these royals represent would be so quick to call for them to be thrown out.
Their marriage has't lasted and I don't tink that the Royal parents were too happy with it. but I believe the Lux Press is very pro royal and perhaps they didn't think there was anyting odd in a young couple doing the same as many other young couples. It was not a morganatic marriage..
King Henry VIII got his mistress Elizabeth Blount pregnant. The King and Cardinal Wolsey saw to it that Bessie was treated just like Henry's Queen while she was with child.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on August 13, 2017, 05:47:56 AM
I am not sure any monarchy today would be able to sustain the notion that there are "illegitimate children". The uproar and the interventions of the courts would probably put paid to that. The best they could do was persuade the prince to get married as soon as possible...short gun wedding style. Otherwise the notion of an "illegitimate" child would rankle many, many people who are born outside wedlock.
Yes there are royal "illegitimate children". I'm sure you know that Prince Albert of Monaco has 2 and some reports say more. And that other royals have people making what seem to be quite "Likely" claims that they are children of the Said royal. King Albert II of Belgium for example.
So I don't reallyknow what you mean
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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on October 15, 2017, 12:23:18 AM
King Henry VIII got his mistress Elizabeth Blount pregnant. The King and Cardinal Wolsey saw to it that Bessie was treated just like Henry's Queen while she was with child.
No she wasn't. She was problaby secluded somewhere to give birth and then as I recall she was married off and her child ws reared in the Royal court.
Prince 'admits' second illegitimate child - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1478979/Prince-admits-second-illegitimate-child.html)
Quote from: Curryong on August 13, 2017, 06:02:05 AM
They certainly would have a hard time bearing up under an onslaught similar to the British Press. However, it's quite well known that Albert of Monaco has illegitimate older children than his twins with Princess Charlene.
The late Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands had at least one known illegitimate child, as has ex King Albert of the Belgians. It was a long running dispute with his illegitimate daughter who just wanted to be recognised by him that, besides illhealth, pretty well decided Albert on abdication, not the actual existence of the woman herself.
There have also been strong rumours in the past about Prince Philip and Juan Carlos of Spain also having some progeny out of marriage, so I'm not sure the populations of the countries that these royals represent would be so quick to call for them to be thrown out.
@Curryong- It was acknowledged after his death that Bernhard had two illegitimate daughters. Both came to pay their respects prior to the funeral and were received by their half-sisters. I agree that there are likely other illegitimate children that were fathered by the late and present monarchs and prince consorts. I wish that Albert would just deal with the situation with Delphine Boel. <_<