The Role of the British Monarchy, Popularity and Future discussion part 2

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Update of the Counsellors of State for the United Kingdom. There are now officially seven who can act in this role: Queen Camilla, The Prince of Wales, Princess Beatrice, The Duke of Edinburgh and the Princess Royal. The Dukes of Sussex and York are still officially on the list, but it is unlikely that they would be called upon in the near future.

The royals who can act as Counsellors of State, standing in for The King when needed ? Royal Central

Counsellors of State stand in for the Monarch if they are temporarily unavailable, either through being out of the country or for short term health reasons, like an operation.

The Regency Act of 1937 stated that the Monarch?s spouse and the first four adults in the line of succession could be called on to be Counsellors. That meant that, following the accession of King Charles III, the role could be fulfilled by Queen Camilla, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Sussex, the Duke of York and Princess Beatrice. How

Two people must exercise the role together ? it can never be carried out by one person on their own. That led to discussion about the viability of the situation given that Prince Harry lives overseas and has stepped back from royal duties while Prince Andrew has withdrawn from public life following a court case.

In November 2022, King Charles wrote to the House of Lords asking it to consider making an amendment to the Act to add Princess Anne and Prince Edward to the list of people eligible to act as Counsellors of State.

The Bill to change who could take on the role was given Royal Assent, meaning it is now law, on December 6th 2022. It took just 22 days to make the changes.

Since then, seven people have been able to act as Counsellors of State.

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The Telegraph's Camilla Tominey shares her views on the first year of King Charles' reign.

King Charles has pulled off a miracle succession, despite Harry's criticism | Royal Insight - YouTube

The King has managed to steer the Royal family through choppy waters over the past year depsite controversy, says Camilla Tominey, The Telegraph?s Associate Editor.

From the way he reacted to the public outpouring of grief following the death of his mother, to executing a faultless tour of Germany, the transition has been largely seamless.

#KingCharles #Royal #Harry

The King?s approval rating has also held up despite very personal criticisms made about him by Prince Harry in his memoir, Spare.

?As captain of the ship, the King has managed to steer the good ship Royal through pretty choppy waters and is sailing into calmer seas,? Camilla says.

However, obstacles could lie ahead, with the possibility that Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, could publish her own memoir.

The Royal family also faces the difficult challenge of maintaining the monarchy?s relevance in an increasingly polarised world, where social media has taken over.

In this episode, Camilla analyses how successfully the King and Queen have conducted their duties over the past year since the death of Queen Elizabeth, and what is likely to lie ahead.

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NEW: Would you favour Britain becoming a Republic or remaining a Monarchy?

Remaining a Monarchy: 66%
Becoming a Republic 25%
Don't know: 9%

Ipsos: https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/two-thirds-prefer-britain-remain-monarchy

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Queen Elizabeth II of England delivered speech in French during 1964 visit   
Queen Elizabeth delivers speech in French during Quebec 1964 visit - YouTube

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Bristol University axes the National Anthem from graduation ceremonies amid students' claims it is 'old-fashioned' and 'offensive to some' | Daily

?Some students at the 147-year-old university have suggested the National Anthem was culled because it is 'irrelevant', 'old-fashioned' or might even be 'offensive to some'.

It comes just weeks after the university vowed to remove slave trader Edward Colston's emblem from its logo, after his statue was toppled during a Black Lives Matter protest in the city in June 2020.

Layla Daynes, 21, told The Sun: 'The monarchy isn't really relevant to my generation, so it wouldn't be missed.'




They aren?t the first educational institution to do this and they certainly won?t be the last. There have been moves afoot at other colleges and universities.

[PrincessOfPeace]

It's a common occurrence in America as well. Supposedly people are 'triggered' lol -

I think it says more about the students then anything else. They're in for a surprise in the real world.

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Oh that is for darn sure, they think they know it all now at their age and in college they can do as they please......I think the real world will kick them down quite a few pegs before they know what hit them.

[PrincessOfPeace]

William is third and Catherine second, behind the late Queen.

Kate Middleton and Prince William feature in top 5 most popular royals - full list - Mirror Online

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YouGov latest royal favourability results (6-7 Feb) -

Prince William: 77% positive view (+3 from 13-15 Jan) -
Catherine: 74% (+4) -
King Charles: 66% (+3) -
Camilla: 50% (+2) -
Prince Harry: 33% (+5) -
Meghan: 27% (+4) -

https://x.com/YouGov/status/1755567183957016731?s=20

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YouGov latest royal favourability results (6-7 Feb) -

Prince William: 77% positive view (+3 from 13-15 Jan) -
Catherine: 74% (+4) -
King Charles: 66% (+3) -
Camilla: 50% (+2) -
Prince Harry: 33% (+5) -
Meghan: 27% (+4) -

https://x.com/YouGov/status/1755567183957016731?s=20

I am curious to  see what the spring quarter will look like for the BRF. Especially as the Queen has taken on many of the King's public engagements.

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This latest survey is an extremely strange one. Why not just have a survey of the working royals, in which case where are Princess Anne, the Edinburghs, Gloucesters and the Kent siblings? Or, if YouGov intended to pit non working royals against working ones, where are Prince Andrew, Fergie, the York Princesses, the Tindalls and the rest?

Why pluck out the Sussex couple and pit them against the Waleses and the King and Queen (the figures aren't exactly brilliant still for Camilla or Charles anyway) with two of those on the survey battling serious health conditions and having a great deal of public sympathy.

If the object of this exercise was to show how unpopular two non working royals are against only four who are working royals and two of those battling serious illness (and Kate's cancer was not then known) then YouGov has succeeded. If however the object was to be fair to all the members of the RF then it's a big fail.

This company needs to stop pitting the Sussexes against the senior working royals years after the couple stopped being working royals and left GB altogether, and imo just have surveys with the King, Queen, the Waleses, the Prss Royal, the Edinburghs, Gloucesters and Kents, in other words the working RF, instead of carrying out completely illogical polling of this sort.

If there was a Scandinavian YouGov company then that quick survey would be akin to asking Swedes to match Prss Madeleine and her husband up against her siblings and parents when Madeleine has been a private citizen for years. Or doing the same in Denmark with Joachim and Marie pitted against his brother, sister in law, and aunt and widowed mother. Fair?

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The Princess of Wales and her husband are popular across the generations.

With rampant speculation about Kate Middleton's wellbeing coming to a screeching halt following the Princess of Wales' revelation that she has cancer, a new YouGov survey finds that she is now the most well-thought-of royal among the public.

Three quarters of Britons (76%) say they have a positive view of the Princess of Wales, up six points since the start of the year.

Similarly popular is husband William, at 73%, although more people have a negative view of the Prince of Wales (21%, compared to Kate's 15%).

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49089-kate-middleton-now-uks-most-popular-royal

https://x.com/YouGov/status/1777636963572498680

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The Princess of Wales and her husband are popular across the generations.

With rampant speculation about Kate Middleton's wellbeing coming to a screeching halt following the Princess of Wales' revelation that she has cancer, a new YouGov survey finds that she is now the most well-thought-of royal among the public.

Three quarters of Britons (76%) say they have a positive view of the Princess of Wales, up six points since the start of the year.

Similarly popular is husband William, at 73%, although more people have a negative view of the Prince of Wales (21%, compared to Kate's 15%).

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49089-kate-middleton-now-uks-most-popular-royal

https://x.com/YouGov/status/1777636963572498680

Thank you for sharing this information. 

To be honest I  don't see any surprises in the poll outcome. 

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The Princess of Wales has overtaken Prince William in a new poll to be crowned Britain's favourite royal, the Independent can reveal.

Kate, 42, who is currently undergoing treatment for an unspecified form of cancer, was seen as "favourable" by 62 percent of respondents to the Savanta research, which is exclusive to this publication.

The Independent: Britain's favourite royal who has overtaken Prince William by a narrow margin revealed

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The Princess of Wales has overtaken Prince William in a new poll to be crowned Britain's favourite royal, the Independent can reveal.

Kate, 42, who is currently undergoing treatment for an unspecified form of cancer, was seen as "favourable" by 62 percent of respondents to the Savanta research, which is exclusive to this publication.

The Independent: Britain's favourite royal who has overtaken Prince William by a narrow margin revealed

I have a hunch that William and Catherine will be moving back and forth in the top spot in the coming months and years.

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I have a hunch that William and Catherine will be moving back and forth in the top spot in the coming months and years.

Well, they may, though as celebrities, even royals, move into their fifties, it's usually a newer generation/their growing children who step into the limelight.

One thing is certain, it won't be Charles, or Camilla, who inhabit those two top spots. Ever since Diana died their numbers in surveys like this one have been diabolical, considering their status.

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[Curryong]

Once again the old perennial question of mine with all these polls, why do these survey firms put non working royals on them? They are not representing Britain or the monarchy in their everyday lives, nor are they, with the possible exception of Andrew, costing the British taxpayer one penny. So why are they there? So the media can rejoice once more as they do every week that the Sussexes are back of the pack, is my guess, or what?

If I were Palace officials I'd be more worried about Camilla's figures (Charles's have gone up because of his cancer) and why the monarchy's approval ratings are now consistently hovering around 60%, about 8 to 12% less than they were pre Sept 2023 before the late Queen's death.

[Curryong]

From that same survey, attitudes between generations towards members of the royal family do vary quite a lot.
Generations differ on their attitudes to the royals and the monarchy�
When it comes to what the public thinks of the monarchy itself, around half of Britons (56%) hold a positive view of the monarchy, compared to 33% who view it negatively.

But views on the monarchy vary across different age groups, with only a third of the youngest Britons (34% of 18-24 year olds) having a favourable opinion. By contrast, among the oldest Britons (those aged 65 and above) fully 76% have a positive view of the monarchy.

Attitudes towards specific royals also differ, with younger generations having less markedly different views on Harry and William than their elders. Among 18-24 year olds, 48% view William positively, while 42% view Harry in the same light. Among those over 65, William enjoys a favourable view from 85%, while only 16% see Harry similarly.

Similarly, Meghan fares better among 18-24 year olds (36%) than among those over 65, of whom just 11% view her positively.

[PrincessOfPeace]

I don't understand why polling is done in America on the BRF but here's the latest -

[Curryong]

A certain cohort of Americans, those 45 plus and especially women, were far more in love with Diana and were great admirers of her than they were of Charles. Charles's first marriage and its aftermath still sticks like mud to the reputations of both Charles and Camilla, even with Britons.

Good that Harry is recovering somewhat in this poll.

[Curryong]

Incidentally, where can this latest poll be seen, in what publication? I've tried looking for it with no success.

[PrincessOfPeace]

I found the image on twitter. I'll look for a link to the poll

[Curryong]

Thankyou Princess.

[PrincessOfPeace]

Here's the link. There's a lot of information to sort through.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/49608-king-charles-new-portrait-uniting-fans-haters-neither-likes-it