Duke and Duchess of Sussex All Legal Actions Part 2

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TLLK

#50
May 09, 2022, 08:19:18 PM Last Edit: May 09, 2022, 08:22:14 PM by TLLK
Harry's Court Setback Shows Libel Case Against Old Enemy Is 'Ill-Advised'

QuoteJudge Matthew Nicklin stated in a court filing, dated April 26 and seen by Newsweek: "I have refused to direct trial of the issue of serious harm.

"I appreciate that [Prince Harry's] case is one based (at this stage) solely upon inference, but ultimately this is an issue of fact."

TLLK

#51
June 09, 2022, 01:35:12 PM
Meghan and Harry?Back From the Jubilee?Have Conflict Waiting Down the Line

QuoteThe duke's lawyers were back in court on June 9, arguing over the meaning of the Mail on Sunday story during a preliminary hearing.

wannable

#52
June 09, 2022, 02:57:05 PM Last Edit: June 09, 2022, 03:02:42 PM by wannable
I don't know what to think of this one.  Harry's lawsuit against HM government over police bodygurd WAS a secret for over a bit more than a year. Clearly someone in the 'system' whispered the news to the MOS. Now my question is why can't it be news? Harry is suing for that. (ETA: Yes the MOS as an 'exclusive breaking news' has the copyrights when worldwide media ask permissions to copy/paste and it does come with a ''price'', so they made a lot of money of off that news and in the above article will fight/take it all the way in the court. Will Harry also agree to stay or relinquish?)

As a side note, Harry had the best protection this past weekend, the Queen's personal security related people were with the Sussexes during the entire duration (including inside St. Paul's, eagle eyed royal watchers ID 2 of the men seated behind the couple)

TLLK

#53
July 07, 2022, 02:52:09 PM Last Edit: July 07, 2022, 05:02:51 PM by TLLK
Reportedly the Duke of Sussex is considering a second lawsuit against the Home Office.

Quoteack Royston
@Jack_Royston
Prince Harry is considering a new lawsuit after the palace didn't tell the Home Office he'd pay for police security. He is "engaged in pre-action correspondence for a proposed second judicial review claim in relation to these matters, and intends to issue that claim shortly."


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62044951

Nightowl

#54
July 08, 2022, 03:50:23 AM
 Well the one thing is that the lawyers just love the Sussex's for all the lawsuits they keep filing....boy to have that endless bank account to pay those very high attorney fees, I know attorney fees, I worked for one and $600 an hour is not cheap!...Soon they will be in the poor house while the attorneys laugh all the way to the bank....LOL

sara8150

#55
July 08, 2022, 06:17:48 PM Last Edit: July 08, 2022, 06:40:56 PM by sara8150
Prince Harry had 'significant tensions' with top royal aide Sir Edward Young, High Court hears | Daily Mail Online

Prince Harry Seeks Judicial Review Over U.K. Police Protection | PEOPLE.com

Prince Harry Wins First Stage in Libel Lawsuit Against Mail on Sunday | PEOPLE.com

Prince Harry admits to 'significant tensions' with the Queen's private secretary | HELLO!

Prince Harry's legal battle continues following family trip to Wyoming | HELLO!

Prince Harry scores victory after High Court judge rules newspaper article was 'defamatory' | HELLO!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62044951

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62090652

Prince Harry wins latest round in libel fight against Mail on Sunday | UK News | Sky News

Prince Harry?s libel claim against Mail on Sunday boosted by high court ruling | Prince Harry | The Guardian

Prince Harry told Royal Family tensions 'irrelevant' to status change 'Striking inability' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Harry wants Archie and Lilibet to 'know his home' as Duke prepares for security showdown | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Prince Harry wins High Court battle in latest in security saga | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-08/mail-on-sunday-article-about-harry-was-defamatory-judge-rules

Prince Harry 'kept in dark' by palace amid 'significant tensions' with top aide - Mirror Online

Prince Harry wins first part of legal battle against newspaper over security row - Mirror Online

Prince Harry lays bare 'significant tensions' with Queen's top aide as he sues Home Office over protection row | The Sun

Prince Harry wins latest court battle in blow to free press as judge rules article made him look bad | The Sun

Curryong

#56
July 08, 2022, 09:46:00 PM
Prince Harry wins latest round in libel fight against Mail on Sunday | UK News | Sky News

Parts of an article in The Mail on Sunday about the Duke of Sussex's legal claim against the Home Office were defamatory, a High Court judge has ruled.

Curryong

#58
July 22, 2022, 08:52:32 PM
Meghan and Harry have been quite successful so far, wholly or in part, with all their cases in British courts, really.

Nightowl

#59
July 23, 2022, 04:42:15 AM
What did they win...Money, approval to be back in the royal family, police protection while they sit in Ca doing nothing, HM giving them the blank check to the family funds....just what is the win?  I bet my last pair of gorgeous pearl earrings that most of the doors in the royal family are closed to them as who in their right mind would trust them for everything anyone says to them will be on TV, in Netflix or a book....Trust is the most important thing in the world to most people and we all know from their actions and behavior and words that you can NOT trust the Sussex's ever again.   They can win all the lawsuits they have out there yet that does not mean they are *trustworthy* or *honest*.  Everything anyone does in life has *consequences* even a whisper.

Curryong

#60
July 23, 2022, 08:09:14 AM
It seems to me that I can post nothing here with regard to the Sussexes without receiving a diatribe every time about the Sussexes seeming lying and untrustworthiness.

Well, guess what! The Sussexes have been lied about in the British tabloids from the beginning as well, including pretty terrible insults about Meghan appearing in porn and bringing up her children gender fluid, and her mother being in jail and living in a crime ridden neighbourhood. All lies, beginning in a tabloid journalist?s imagination. Not to mention so called royal experts saying whatever comes into their mouths about Harry and Meghan on talk shows without offering any proof at all.

My last post on the Sussexes was in this thread. I wrote two sentences, a mild observation that was accurate about wins against British media and others.

This latest legal action has not been about lies or truth. It?s been about Harry attempting to protect his family when he is in the UK. Reports have shown that protection was in fact withdrawn by a committee, which unknown to Harry included two members of the Royal Household, one of them Sir Edward Young (a man noted in a couple of broadsheets as not being too successful as the Queen?s Private Secretary.) He and Harry had clashed on several occasions including when Harry was attempting to see his grandmother to talk to her. We don?t know what Young and the other we?re doing on this committee but it would be quite easy to guess.

Nightowl

#61
July 23, 2022, 10:09:48 AM Last Edit: July 23, 2022, 10:23:24 AM by Nightowl
This is not about the British tabloids or other media in Britain lying, it is all about what the Sussex's have done in not telling the truth.  I would not trust the British tabloids either, they need to be held accountable for their words like anyone else.

Protection in the UK is what Harry is afraid of....didn't he realize that in leaving the royal family that all the perks, money and cars and everything else was no longer his to have, that includes security? Surely both of them realized that, it is like in leaving a career/job that a person has, if no longer employed in the company then your perks are gone, like a paycheck, vacation time, medical....surely they can't be that dumb to not realize that.  Harry's actions are what he is showing the world, a spoiled brat as my friends say...he is full of his own ego and entitlement in thinking that he can have the bank of dad pay for him, all the security he had when he worked for the Firm, everything, heck he still flies in a private jet while telling us still to listen to him about climate changes and not fly.

His trip to England recently, was he protected, and surely Meghan should of known NOT to roll down the window of the limo so that no one could see them or attack them because that right there showed their lack of understanding protection, yet she had to be seen ....as we saw. And what I don't get is who is he being protected from? He is living in America, not the UK and he might have house there, (not a home) and since it is empty(since Eugenie is now living in a foreign country) and he is not visiting anytime soon so far, what is the issue of being protected in the UK since he does not live there?

This is in my opinion just a way for them to attack HM and the entire family and to be seen and heard on the world stage....one lawsuit after another and I bet more to come.....Just what else can they do to be seen and heard on the world stage except file another lawsuit,  they really need attention and this is one way of doing it.....winning all or any of these lawsuits is NOT changing a thing, *it is just something to brag about and makes them feel good that they won....yet just what did they win?*  Can the courts fire the people involved in the decisions or give them a fine or what?  Just what did they win?

wannable

#62
July 23, 2022, 11:08:15 AM Last Edit: July 23, 2022, 11:14:37 AM by wannable
He won to be heard only why he needs government security, all other parts dismissed, like questioning RAVEC.

So one of two will come out of the hearing of why he needs it. It is meant to be kept confidential. I?m sure his lawyers have already told him that it is a double edge sword. Some lawyers will say the Judge is being mischievous by accepting the hearing. It?s going to be documented.

The media is being mischievous with the word win. Preferably read the court 1 page document.

Curryong

#63
July 23, 2022, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: wannable on July 23, 2022, 11:08:15 AM
He won to be heard only why he needs government security, all other parts dismissed, like questioning RAVEC.

So one of two will come out of the hearing of why he needs it. It is meant to be kept confidential. I?m sure his lawyers have already told him that it is a double edge sword. Some lawyers will say the Judge is being mischievous by accepting the hearing. It?s going to be documented.

The media is being mischievous with the word win. Preferably read the court 1 page document.

Some lawyers according to your posts have been constantly saying that Meghan will lose this case, Harry will lose that one and judges concerned (who certainly know what they are doing more than a poster commenting on a royal forum) shouldn?t have been accepting this or doing that. It?s funny that Meghan and Harry have won so many legal cases then if you were correct, which you weren?t!

wannable

#64
July 23, 2022, 01:13:20 PM
They've lost cases as well. 

This one is against HM Home Office. Harry's lawyers during the hearing have to explain to satisfy or not why Harry needs tax funded police protection. Whatever they explain will be documented.  The real question is will it be leaked.

wannable

#65
July 23, 2022, 01:46:45 PM Last Edit: July 23, 2022, 01:51:19 PM by wannable
Quote from: Nightowl on July 23, 2022, 10:09:48 AM
This is not about the British tabloids or other media in Britain lying, it is all about what the Sussex's have done in not telling the truth.  I would not trust the British tabloids either, they need to be held accountable for their words like anyone else.

Protection in the UK is what Harry is afraid of....didn't he realize that in leaving the royal family that all the perks, money and cars and everything else was no longer his to have, that includes security? Surely both of them realized that, it is like in leaving a career/job that a person has, if no longer employed in the company then your perks are gone, like a paycheck, vacation time, medical....surely they can't be that dumb to not realize that.  Harry's actions are what he is showing the world, a spoiled brat as my friends say...he is full of his own ego and entitlement in thinking that he can have the bank of dad pay for him, all the security he had when he worked for the Firm, everything, heck he still flies in a private jet while telling us still to listen to him about climate changes and not fly.

His trip to England recently, was he protected, and surely Meghan should of known NOT to roll down the window of the limo so that no one could see them or attack them because that right there showed their lack of understanding protection, yet she had to be seen ....as we saw. And what I don't get is who is he being protected from? He is living in America, not the UK and he might have house there, (not a home) and since it is empty(since Eugenie is now living in a foreign country) and he is not visiting anytime soon so far, what is the issue of being protected in the UK since he does not live there?

This is in my opinion just a way for them to attack HM and the entire family and to be seen and heard on the world stage....one lawsuit after another and I bet more to come.....Just what else can they do to be seen and heard on the world stage except file another lawsuit,  they really need attention and this is one way of doing it.....winning all or any of these lawsuits is NOT changing a thing, *it is just something to brag about and makes them feel good that they won....yet just what did they win?*  Can the courts fire the people involved in the decisions or give them a fine or what?  Just what did they win?

After the hearing the Judge will affect or not the present and future of the none working royals, as I said 1 of 2 options will happen. Affect: Harry wins, there will be protection for Harry, Andrew, Anne, both Princesses of York 24/7. Not Affect: No protection, only Anne when she's working.  The challenge (the hearing granted) according to the court paper ''has to be mantained confidential'' IF it is leaked, who and what will happen then. Hence the 2 edge sword.  IF leaked, we all know the media will destroy Harry no matter what, because it is related to 'tax payer' funded police. Harry doesn't want just any security, he wants specifically the tax payer funded police that will have to give Harry inteligence services, which he doesn't actually have.  The decision of the Judge IS very significant for the royals I mentioned.  ALL other parts have been dismissed, like I said RAVEC, or paying for protection officers. IOW, RAVEC is out of the question, Harry nor nobody can question who are the members of RAVEC and tax payer funded police can't be privately paid. Retire as a police officer and enter or make your own security company for celebs.

wannable

#66
July 23, 2022, 02:17:09 PM
IOW, the Judge's decision can have forever during the royal's lifetime police protection being a working royal or not. This can also be extended to a second hearing by PM working or not (that is what I've read in lawyer circles blogs and verified social media accounts.

The key word is the UK has a Monarchy, senior royals working/not are targets.  Same with PM's exes or actuals.

It might change and go US Presidents and exes way, forever until death (for the whole fam)

No one wants a tragedy at the end of the day. 

I DO want Harry's case to win.  I DO want to see not only him but Andrew and his family and especially Anne have it 24/7.

wannable

#67
July 23, 2022, 07:22:05 PM
Same for the Wessexes with Judge decision affect 24/7 no affect: only when they work. They have the same situation as Anne.

Nightowl

#68
July 23, 2022, 11:27:44 PM
In my opinion the only security that any royal with the exception of HM and her heirs is that when a royal is working, they get protection and if not working then they have to pay for their own protection.  This is taxpayer money, people work darn hard and to have royals protected just because they are royals and go shopping or whatever as it is not an event for work is wrong.....These are not paupers, they have money, endless bank accounts so pay for your own protection when you go to something that is not a work related event.  That to me makes it equal for the royal and the taxpayer  for lots of people want to go see the royals at events.

This with Harry, his actions, decisions and words are all on the level of a spoiled brat having a temper fit....he has all his life been cuddled, spoiled and given every thing at his command......no wonder he is the way he is today....and I get that for I did the same with my daughter, she wanted something, she got it from mom 100% till mom realized how wrong she was and made changes which did not go over well...we both learned some hard lessons during that time period, so I see Harry as the same as my daughter and he is not learning a darn thing....he is not a sharp intelligent man, sure he can fly a plane yet dealing with the human race is something he does not know how to do as he seems to think everyone jumps at his word.....metal and humans are 2 very different species.

Curryong

#69
July 24, 2022, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: Nightowl on July 23, 2022, 11:27:44 PM
In my opinion the only security that any royal with the exception of HM and her heirs is that when a royal is working, they get protection and if not working then they have to pay for their own protection.  This is taxpayer money, people work darn hard and to have royals protected just because they are royals and go shopping or whatever as it is not an event for work is wrong.....These are not paupers, they have money, endless bank accounts so pay for your own protection when you go to something that is not a work related event.  That to me makes it equal for the royal and the taxpayer  for lots of people want to go see the royals at events.

This with Harry, his actions, decisions and words are all on the level of a spoiled brat having a temper fit....he has all his life been cuddled, spoiled and given every thing at his command......no wonder he is the way he is today....and I get that for I did the same with my daughter, she wanted something, she got it from mom 100% till mom realized how wrong she was and made changes which did not go over well...we both learned some hard lessons during that time period, so I see Harry as the same as my daughter and he is not learning a darn thing....he is not a sharp intelligent man, sure he can fly a plane yet dealing with the human race is something he does not know how to do as he seems to think everyone jumps at his word.....metal and humans are 2 very different species.

Harry offered to pay himself for his family?s protection and that was repeated at the beginning of this Court action, though the Committee deliberately made no mention of it.
So, it would not and will not cost taxpayers anything.

?Coddled all his life?? Would that include the ten years in the Army including two tours of service flying helicopters in war zones?

?Dealing with the human race?? Well Harry dealt with the human race in Lesotho when he began Sentebale with Prince Seiso.

Harry also dealt with the human race when he began the Invictus Games for maimed and wounded vets.

He was certainly dealing with humans when he worked with ?Walking with the Wounded? to the North Pole and again in a long Walking with the Wounded? to the South Pole the next year.

And Harry has worked for people with The Halo Trust to remove Land Mines which kill and maim humans.

Not to mention has raised millions for charities by playing in a dozen polo matches over the years.

wannable

#70
July 24, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
privatizing the police is out of the question.

TLLK

#71
July 24, 2022, 05:08:34 PM
Quote from: wannable on July 24, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
privatizing the police is out of the question.

I agree that the taxpayers,  Home Office and the Met Police will not allow that to happen any more than the Secret Service would permit it here in the U.S. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Harry and his family will receive the taxpayer funded security when he/they are participating in official engagements associated with the BRF ie: DoE's funeral and the Jubilee related events. When they're here in the UK on private visits they'd be protected by the security of the residences they're likely to visit: CH, WC, Balmoral and Sandringham.

TLLK

#72
August 04, 2022, 04:27:22 PM Last Edit: August 04, 2022, 04:32:50 PM by TLLK
The Duke files a second lawsuit this time naming the Metropolitan Police.

Harry Files New Lawsuit Against U.K. Government in Sign Tensions Remain

QuotePrince Harry has formally filed a second lawsuit against the U.K. government at a time when commentators have suggested tensions with the royal family are easing.

The Duke of Sussex is already suing the British Home Office over its decision to remove his police protection, first taken in 2020, which he says means it is unsafe in Britain for him, Meghan Markle and their children Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor.

Now he has filed a second lawsuit against the same government department but also naming the Metropolitan Police as a second defendant, the High Court confirmed to Newsweek.

It will focus on a decision in January 2022 that individuals should not be allowed to pay privately to receive police protection.

wannable

#73
August 04, 2022, 05:25:03 PM
 :wacko: ^


*****

In other similar legal action news, the company Meghan invested ''Clevr Brands'' has received a Code Violation from California Health & Safety, apparently their products have lead and lead compounds, type of harm: birth defects and other reproductive harms. The California H&S are requesting the company to recall all products dated since 1 June, 2021. To be notified to the FDA.

wannable

#74
August 04, 2022, 05:46:07 PM
The above is a critical violation, inspectors will be all over the Co. for years. 

IMO the Co. wasn't transparent with Meghan. It's really bad luck April 2021 she invests, 4 months later August 2021 the Co receives the Code violation for Lead Contamination. As per law, the Health & Safety will make this month August 2022 a critical check because of the violation, this may sink or float the Co.

The more critical the violation, usually in 1 year the scenario of sink/float.  Smaller code violations a Co. gets babysit for ''years''.
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