The Duke and Duchess of Sussex interviews, TV and other media events Part 2

wannable · December 04, 2022, 04:50:51 PM

The couple's own mouth is their own downfall.

Proverb 13.3
Whoever controls his mouth protects his own life. Whoever has a big mouth comes to ruin.

sara8150 · December 04, 2022, 04:57:25 PM

Quote from: Curryong on December 04, 2022, 01:00:39 PM
Harry and Meghan did not have any say about what date Netflix showed that trailer for their documentary. That would be up to the Netflix producers and programmers. In fact it was reported by Page Six that they wanted the series to begin in late November, as I believe I posted here.

The royal family never need to come out and say negative things about others. They get the RRs and other journalists (most of whom work for London tabloids) to do their bidding, get their particular point across to the public by a word in friendly ears given by their aides and assistants. It?s a bargain between them, a scratch my back type of arrangement that?s been going on between the Palace and Fleet St for at least fifty years. .

Anyway I do not wish to get into huge arguments on this forum every time Harry is mentioned or I attempt to explain how the tabloid Press in Britain influences the perceptions of those in power like the RF by ordinary readers. It?s extremely difficult to get through to people who don?t live in Britain what influence these tabloids have over the minds of ordinary Britons. And I realise it?s impossible.

Royal family wouldn?t comment on Netflix and will not watch on Netflix and embarrassed included Oprah,his upcoming books on January and mores but Harry betrayed his own family and country as moderator for Sussex but will not tolerate ZERO!! But King Charles and Prince William will have crisis meeting behind close doors privately but no release details till release from Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace same before Queen Elizabeth?s death

But royal family will forbid for films in Buckingham Palace,Kensington Palace,Windsor Castle,Balmoral Castle and Sanringham is off limits and also private property of royal residence no films inside without authorization from King or Queen?s permission

sara8150 · December 04, 2022, 05:08:12 PM

wannable · December 04, 2022, 05:31:33 PM

It ''may'' also be a case of Netflix pattern of ''shock and awe' trailer (s). Most shock and awe ends up with average veiwing, money invested end's up even steven (no loss, no gain either).

IMO the demise of Archewell's CEO speaks of no recontract (s). IF they get recontract (s) someone point it out my way :therethere:

ETA: Netflix isn't the only streamline service that do shock and awe trailers, fam member tells me that all the entertainment ind does it, basically the trailer has to capture the audience to watch a film a series more so if it's boring as ....

sara8150 · December 04, 2022, 05:35:16 PM

Quote from: Curryong on December 03, 2022, 10:19:49 PM
Once again the tabloids are indulging themselves with dozens of articles about the Sussexes in the name of clickbait.

So what they are constantly accusing the couple of (speaking out in the name of ?evil? cash) is exactly what they (commentators, ?royal experts?, authors, radio and TV hosts and all tabloid journalists and editors,) are doing.

And Harry saying, as one Sun article alleges was saiid, ie ?These Brits need a lesson?, is something no English person would say, especially with regard to fellow country men and women. Brits!

You?re right about that Harry need learn lessons!! But Harry is Britain

sara8150 · December 04, 2022, 05:36:49 PM

Quote from: Nightowl on December 04, 2022, 08:09:18 AM
I am darn sure Harry never, just never worried about the things in life that we ordinary people worry about like money..he was and has I bet never experienced any hardships in his life. Everything was handles for him, just a phone call away and I think he has gone thought the last few years thinking everything would be the same and that is why he acts out at times without really thinking about what he is doing or saying. He grew up in the royal family and knows all the ins and outs of just about everybody so there is no excuse for him to take pictures within any royal home without permission. He knows you just can not do things without a higher power permission like he can not have a key to the vault or just invite anyone in or take something from a royal home that is of value.....there are rules within all homes on what people can and can not do and that even goes for me and I live alone with my dog....I just can do something out of the ordinary to my home as it would make me uncomfortable when things are out of place....wait, this thing about getting money from a dead mother.........grrrrrrrr that is not unusual as when a family member passes on there is items that are given to whomever the will says......so Harry got lots of money and even if he got the bulk of it later in life I am darn sure he never went without money in his bank account by dad or grandparents or whomever handles money in the family......He was totally unprepared for the life he is now living yet that does NOT excuse his actions and decisions on how he has trashed his family, there is NO excuse for that ever.

Harry really took that line he crossed with the royal family and smashed it into very tiny pieces making sure it would never be whole again......that is on HIM only as the royal family has NOT come out and said one darn word of negativity about him or Meghan.

Do not use the royal family to make your way in life after you trashed them......that is cowardly and cruel, he turned his back on his grandparents and dad and brother, as did his wife.......just what in the h*ll does he expect now? He and wife claim they want privacy yet every time we turn around he and wife are out there talking and trashing the royal family, if he hates his family, heritage and history then why is he behaving this way? Walk away and make your own life, be a real man and stand up for what you truly believe in instead of always tearing down the family you ran away from. He could of done so much with his life and maybe still can if he learns to accept responsibility for his decisions .....the TV series, well they have already said they are not responsible for it as they don't like it yet they made it and had it filmed so blame someone for what they did..........talk about immature and childish with showing the trailer part of their show the same time the royal family was in Boston. That shows *weakness and insecurity* on their part, attention seeking as they need that where William and Catherine just did the job and went home.

I am so glad to see Charles and William and family just taking care of business and going about their own lives

Yes Charles and William is care of this business since death of Queen Elizabeth

Curryong · December 04, 2022, 10:26:08 PM

Quote from: sara8150 on December 04, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
You?re right about that Harry need learn lessons!! But Harry is Britain

That doesn?t mean that Harry would call his fellow countrymen and women ?Brit?s?. I?ve never heard him use that word in public or private, and little notes he?d sent or given to people like taxi drivers or waiting staff used to appear on Twitter every now and again. ?Brits? as in ?Brits need to learn a lesson? just isn?t something a British person would say. I was born in England and I?ve never said it nor have I ever heard it coming from the mouths of any person living in the British Isles. That statement was almost certainly made up by a journalist.

Princess Cassandra · December 05, 2022, 03:43:00 AM

Curryong, you are so right about the media. We have slanted media here in the States, also, and they do terrible damage. That's why I draw my own conclusions from listening to the speeches of the individuals themselves and observe their actions, and I often discover the truth among the obvious journal-trash. I lost respect for Harry and Meghan a long, long time ago, but everyone is entitled to form their own opinions. We may disagree on the subject of the sussex's, but that's ok.

wannable · December 05, 2022, 12:37:42 PM

The trailer has been caught by many sleuth hounds with FAKE images from other decades and centuries ago. Basically if you want to sell a point, use your own images to make it more believable, but they didn't. Maybe that is why Meghan complained about the producer?

REALITY IS

wannable · December 05, 2022, 12:43:10 PM

The couple are being blasted in both mainstream and social media ^ another picture and from the trailer is where Harry said Meghan is being hounded by paparazzi and had to protect her, so instead of using a real picture of Meghan being hounded (Kate wouldn't have a problem, there is loads of pictures and videos of Middleton being hounded) the couple (Netflix) used a picture of a Harry Potter premier dated 2011 where no royal attended, the huge press pen as if it were theirs.

Did they even know each other 2011?

wannable · December 05, 2022, 12:51:05 PM

This one is acceptable because it IS a Harry picture, cropped, hounded by the paparazzi. His mother's old videos too where Diana can be seen with no edits is acceptable rather tha to make it look like if it were Harry or the wife (2nd trailer is out)

wannable · December 05, 2022, 01:01:06 PM

Oh boy, the 2nd trailer DOES have Paparazzi chasing Kate. :laugh:

TLLK · December 05, 2022, 01:16:58 PM

The second trailer appears to target the courtiers, aides, secretaries etc.. Prince Harry makes a comparison to the late Diana, Princess of Wales.

Harry & Meghan | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube (Click to view the second trailer.)

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/new-trailer-harry-meghan-released-sussexes-netflix-docuseries/story?id=94476564

Quoten a new trailer released Monday, Harry and Meghan appear to open up about tensions within the royal family and their decision to step down from their senior, working royal roles in 2020.

"It's really hard to look back on it now and go, 'What on earth happened?'" Harry says in the trailer.

As clips are shown of Harry's family and Buckingham Palace, the prince is heard saying, "There's a hierarchy of the family. You know, there's leaking, but there's also planting of stories."

QuoteAlso in the trailer, clips are shown of Harry's mother, Diana, who died following a Paris car crash in 1997 in which she was pursued by paparazzi.

"I was terrified," Harry says. "I didn't want history to repeat itself."

The 1-minute trailer ends with Harry saying, "No one knows the full truth. We know the full truth."

wannable · December 05, 2022, 02:46:39 PM

Gert's Royals
@Gertsroyals

The clip in the Harry & Meghan trailer released today showing Paparazzi swarming the car was not of Harry & Meghan.

Rather Michael Cohen, President Trump's Former Lawyer Leaves For Prison Term, filmed in 2019.

wannable · December 05, 2022, 02:51:02 PM

In the 2nd new trailer

Harry said I was terrified. I didn't want history to repeat itself.

REALITY
Katie Price arrives court for sentencing.

TLLK · December 05, 2022, 02:58:28 PM

I have to say that after the Oprah interview with the manipulated headlines, I can understand why the media will be scouring the trailers to look for stock photos and other items that are not actually related to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex but are being presented as such.

Amabel2 · December 05, 2022, 03:10:41 PM

if noone knows the full truth, then how can Harry say that he knows the full truth?

wannable · December 05, 2022, 03:43:13 PM

Too many sleuth hounds. (Not only fake pictures, but every word they say will be sleuth hounded, just like with the Oprah)

It's going to be a crazy weekend.

^Amabel perhaps BP will release some stuff too? They've been holding back, but will the palace (and the BRF keep on with the ''long game'')

Dan Wootton
@danwootton

If only Harry and Meghan knew the number of hours Buckingham Palace staff spent keeping damaging stories about them OUT of the papers.
For months they succeeded.
That only changed when late Queen herself warned Harry about Meghan's treatment of staff and I broke story in The Sun.

^ The above statement by Dan Wootton, has been replicated by other people who claim to know, it's not only him standing alone. One particular, Lady C, said the DM does have the stories with fact checkers/proof sitting in a confidential database.

wannable · December 05, 2022, 04:46:06 PM

Robert Jobson
@theroyaleditor

This photograph used by @Netflix and Harry and Meghan to suggest intrusion by the press is a complete travesty. It was taken from a accredited pool at Archbishop Tutu's residence in Cape Town. Only 3 people were in the accredited position. H & M agreed the position. I was there.

Curryong · December 05, 2022, 11:46:42 PM

Quote from: wannable on December 05, 2022, 03:43:13 PM
Too many sleuth hounds. (Not only fake pictures, but every word they say will be sleuth hounded, just like with the Oprah)

It's going to be a crazy weekend.

^Amabel perhaps BP will release some stuff too? They've been holding back, but will the palace (and the BRF keep on with the ''long game'')

Dan Wootton
@danwootton

If only Harry and Meghan knew the number of hours Buckingham Palace staff spent keeping damaging stories about them OUT of the papers.
For months they succeeded.
That only changed when late Queen herself warned Harry about Meghan's treatment of staff and I broke story in The Sun.

^ The above statement by Dan Wootton, has been replicated by other people who claim to know, it's not only him standing alone. One particular, Lady C, said the DM does have the stories with fact checkers/proof sitting in a confidential database.

Dan Wootton who, as editor of a tabloid has had to apologise for lying articles in the Sun and other publications, AND Lady CC, who has herself told lies about her background and implied that she is an aristo when she is NOT! Yes, those two are really credible!

As for footage shown of other events that seem to refer to the Sussexes, neither Harry whose commentary has been placed beside the scenes, nor Meghan, were part of the production team at Netflix. Neither were operating any cameras or recording equipment, nor were either responsible for the inserting of irrelevant footage into the documentary.

I?ll be listening to what the couple have to say about life in the Palace and what happened afterwards from their own lips, not looking at stock footage, which appears in practically every documentary, and shock, horror, in the pages of tabloids themselves accompanied by captions saying it?s somewhere else.

TLLK · December 06, 2022, 01:43:15 AM

Why all is not what it seems in Harry and Meghan's latest Netflix trailer

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The second Harry & Meghan Netflix trailer focuses on scenes of apparent media chaos, purporting to show the couple being continuously harassed whilst also ostracised from the Royal family.
The treatment of the Duchess of Sussex is compared with that of her late mother-in-law, Diana, Princess of Wales, the unspoken message apparently being that similarly, her life was in danger.
However, an analysis of the footage suggests things were not quite as the one-minute clip might have viewers believe.
US footage
Much of the footage that rapidly flashes up throughout the trailer is taken in the US and abroad rather than in the UK.
The clip opens with a shot of the Duke and Duchess in their vehicle in what appears to be California.
?It?s really hard to look back on it now and go, 'what on Earth happened?'? Prince Harry is heard saying. Meghan appears to be taking a deep breath, as if contemplating the horrors that have befallen her in recent years.
The footage used of their engagement photocall, which took place at Kensington Palace, is taken from a US broadcaster.
You hear that? That is the sound of hearts breaking all around the world,? an American journalist is heard enthusing.
The clip suggests that the couple were adored by the wider public at this point in their relationship and could do no wrong.
Piers Morgan
A second clip shows the couple walking in the rain during their first joint evening engagement on February 1 2018.
As it was getting dark when the couple arrived, camera flashes can be seen as the couple arrive at the Endeavour Fund Awards in London and the media remain behind the cordon, as is standard practice.
The choice of commenter is bizarre. Piers Morgan?s voice is played over the top of the footage, saying: ?She?s becoming a royal rock star?.

Morgan is one of the Duchess's most vocal detractors and has repeatedly criticised her over the years.
It was his claim that he ?didn?t believe a word? of what she told Oprah Winfrey about her mental health that brought an end to his tenure at Good Morning Britain, the ITV breakfast show he presented for six years, last March.
Morgan took to Twitter on Monday to voice displeasure that his voice had been used ?to flog their ghastly new series?, joking: ?I?m traumatised by this exploitation.?
The clip appears to have been chosen to highlight the disparity between how the couple were once feted and later, widely criticised.
Official engagements
A colour image of the couple on holiday in Botswana - a private holiday snap - is followed by footage taken at a Buckingham Palace garden party which took place just three days after their wedding in May 2018.
It shows the Duke and Duchess descending the steps on arrival, alongside the then Prince Charles and Duchess of Cornwall.
Harry and Meghan are then pictured on their first official outing after announcing their engagement, when they attended the Terrence Higgins Trust World Aids Day charity fair in Nottingham on December 1 2017.
Crowds waving Union flags are seen as the couple turn to wave to wellwishers.
The visit immediately drew comparisons with Diana due to her high profile work with Aids victims.
The various clips show the couple on official business, getting on with their public duties during happier times, when they were warmly received by the public and in the media.
?And then? ? Meghan clicks her fingers. ?Everything changed,? says Harry.
Buckingham Palace balcony
The second segment of the trailer appears designed to show how the couple were abandoned by the institution and forced to contend with the British public and the media alone.
As the Duke tells viewers there is a ?hierarchy of the family,? an image of the Buckingham Palace balcony, taken during Trooping the Colour in June 2019, is shown.
However, the angle it has been taken at suggests that the now Princess of Wales, wearing eye-catching yellow, is centre stage, positioned in the middle and therefore at the very heart of the monarchy.
In fact, Queen Elizabeth II, as ever, was standing firmly in the middle of the balcony for the RAF flypast.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex appear on the far right of the image, as if on the periphery of family life. But they are actually standing closer to the late Queen, and therefore closer to the centre, than the Cambridges, as they were then.
Couple under intense spotlight
?There?s leaking, but there?s also planting of stories? says the Duke, as they are filmed during their tour of southern Africa, carrying their baby son, Archie.
The footage used is shot from a window at Archbishop Desmond Tutu?s residence in Cape Town. The presence of a photographer to the left of the shot implies that the couple are being watched unknowingly, spied upon almost.

In reality, those involved - both the camera operator and the photographer - will have been accredited media standing in an authorised, pool position, to record the moment on behalf of other organisations.
Such arrangements are made by royal aides and are standard practice on official royal engagements.
War
Jenny Afia, the couple?s solicitor, says: ?There was a war against Meghan to suit other people?s agendas.?
Prince Harry is shown with his head in his hands, apparently distraught, while his heavily pregnant wife approaches in the background.
nterspersed with footage of newspapers rolling off the presses before being handed out on the street, the Sussexes? message is clear.
Both the media and the wider British public can expect to come under attack.
?It?s about hatred, it?s about race,? says Christopher Bouzy, the founder of US tech company Bot Sentinel.
Bouzy, a vocal supporter of the Sussexes, once wrote on Twitter that he thought William and Kate were ?ageing in banana years?.
On Monday, he acknowledged the role he plays in the forthcoming documentary, thanking those who had helped his company ?expose the targeted hate campaign against Harry and Meghan.?
Harassment
Footage of what appears to be Meghan en route to her wedding is accompanied by Harry saying.. ?The pain and suffering of women marrying into this institution? this feeding frenzy.?
Several clips show his late mother being closely followed by photographers, as well as the then Kate Middleton, who was surrounded by photographers as she left her London flat for work on January 9, 2007 - her 25th birthday.

The inclusion of footage of the then Ms Middleton being hounded by the press appears to contradict the Duchess?s narrative that she was treated differently from her sister-in-law.
Of the three headlines that flash up on screen, two are from US publications - People magazine and Life&Style - which may detract from their claims that the British tabloids were the enemy.
Chaotic scenes and camera angles
As Meghan says: ?I realised... they?re never going to protect you,? there is more footage from World Aids Day in Nottingham but this time it is shot from behind, showing the crowds of supporters and photographers in the background and therefore conveying a different message.
Harry and Meghan are filmed getting into a vehicle then looking behind, as if panicked, as a car was shown following behind. This appears to have been filmed in the US rather than the UK.

Another wall of cameras is filmed from behind to offer viewers a sense of chaos, of things out of control. This too, is thought to have been filmed abroad.
?I was terrified,? says the Duke, ?I didn?t want history to repeat itself.?
What follows is unofficial camera footage, or outtakes, which suggest commotion and disorganisation.
The footage is blurred as a cameraman runs, while flashes from cameras as the couple leave radio station Reprezent 107.3FM in Brixton in January 2018 are accentuated as evening falls.
Further scenes involving a crowd of photographers and Diana being followed through an airport were filmed aboard, as was a subsequent car shot, filmed from inside a vehicle.
The trailer ends with more footage taken outside the then Miss Middleton?s Chelsea flat on her 25th birthday, followed by the Duke and Duchess walking away from an official photocall following the birth of their son, Archie, in May 2019.

The array of clips, including car shots and large groups of photographers, appear to have been deliberately chosen to convey a general scene of confusion and unrest.
They amplify the couple?s message that they had no choice but to leave the UK.
And they can be contrasted with the gushing imagery and official footage taken before their marriage, when they say life was different.

Princess Cassandra · December 06, 2022, 03:39:22 AM

If they really wanted to escape the royal scene, complete with camera clicks and RR's, why are they "performing" all the time, I ask myself. Clearly it isn't just for the money.

Princess Cassandra · December 06, 2022, 03:43:10 AM

Quote from: wannable on December 05, 2022, 01:01:06 PM
Oh boy, the 2nd trailer DOES have Paparazzi chasing Kate. :laugh:

I remember that. The RF made an appeal to the media to stop harassing her.

Princess Cassandra · December 06, 2022, 03:49:27 AM

:lol:

Quote from: wannable on December 02, 2022, 09:37:41 PM

Peter Ford
@mrpford

Nothing more heartbreaking than seeing Meghan in tears on her USD3000 Hermes blanket. But as good fortune would have it - from a producer's point of view- all being captured for use in the show!

''I always have a professional photographer when I cry''

:goodpost: :lol:

Curryong · December 06, 2022, 07:42:56 AM

Meghan wasn?t crying into any sort of blanket when Valentine Low (of all people) reported on his Twitter in the summer after Archie had been born that she (Meghan) ?was in a bad way?. A great condition for a new mum to be in when living in a new country, amid her husband?s oh so nurturing family.