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Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on April 23, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
QuoteThe Duchess of Cornwall's brother Mark Shand, was fighting for life in a New York hospital after falling and hitting his head outside a nightclub.

Mr Shand, 62, is believed to have slipped while smoking a cigarette outside the venue after attending a charity fundraising party.

He suffered a serious head injury.
More: Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall's brother Mark Shand in critical condition after fall outside NY club | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611390/Camillas-brother-Mark-Shand-fighting-life-hospital-hitting-head-outside-NY-nightclub.html)
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Ladybee on April 23, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
Mark Shand was rushed to hospital after smashing his head on the pavement last night. It looks quite serious.

The Duchess of Cornwall' brother Mark Shand fighting for life after smashing head in fall outside club - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/camilla-parker-bowles-brother-mark-3447120)
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: TLLK on April 23, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
BBc has just posted that he has died from his injuries. :no:
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: SophieChloe on April 23, 2014, 05:50:56 PM
I'm sad to read that  :(
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Lady Adams on April 23, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
:( Very sad indeed.
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 23, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
Oh, how awful!  Head injuries are so serious.  I hope he pulls through.... :(

Cindy
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: SophieChloe on April 23, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
He has died from his injuries, Cindy.  :no:
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 23, 2014, 07:14:44 PM
^^ Thanks, SC.  I didn't see the death notice thread until after the notice of the fall.  And when I tried to post at the death notice thread, I assume you were in the process of combining the two, because I was denied access.  I was the two ships that tried to meet in the night.  What I tried to post at the second thread was that it's so sad ... he was much, much to young, certainly to die that way. :(

Cindy
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: SophieChloe on April 23, 2014, 07:49:50 PM
I agree, Cindy.  Far too young to die.  A reminder of just how precious life is and how easily it can be taken away. 
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sara8150 on April 23, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
Camilla's Brother Dies in New York After Head Injury
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20809637,00.html
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Trudie on April 23, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Very sad news my thoughts go out to his daughter who lost her father at such a young age. I hope his  conservations efforts will be continued especially the plight of the Asian elephants.
Title: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sara8150 on April 23, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
Duchess Camilla's Brother Mark Shand Dies at 62 After Hitting Head Outside NYC Night Club
Duchess Camilla's Brother Mark Shand Dies at 62 After Head Injury - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/duchess-camillas-brother-mark-shand-dies-at-62-after-head-injury--2014234)

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Duchess of Cornwall's brother has passed away after a fall in New York City
Duchess of Cornwall's brother has died after a fall in New York City - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014042318362/duchess-of-cornwall-brother-fighting-for-his-life/)

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Duchess of Cornwall's brother Mark Shand dies in fall
BBC News - Duchess of Cornwall's brother Mark Shand dies in fall (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27131635)

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Duchess of Cornwall's brother, 62, dies after smashing head in fall after leaving £1m charity fundraising event
Camilla's brother Mark Shand, 62, dies after smashing head in fall in NY after leaving £1m charity fundraising event | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611390/Camillas-brother-Mark-Shand-dies-hitting-head-outside-NY-nightclub.html)
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Post by: SophieChloe on April 23, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
[mod]Following the very sad update...the title of this thread has been changed. [/mod]
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Eri on April 23, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
So sad RIP !!!
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Orchid on April 23, 2014, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Trudie on April 23, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Very sad news my thoughts go out to his daughter who lost her father at such a young age. I hope his  conservations efforts will be continued especially the plight of the Asian elephants.

I echo your thoughts, Trudie.  I've been involved with the Elephant Family for just over 18 months now and the charity's work and projected ambitions are truly exceptional. Mark Shand initiated a truly wonderful vision for elephant welfare and his work will be sorely missed.  This has been very sad news indeed and my sympathies extend to Mark Shands' family.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sandy on April 24, 2014, 12:33:02 AM
He was his own man and went his own way and did not live off the royal connections.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: FanDianaFancy on April 24, 2014, 01:29:06 AM
True sandy.
True, Trudie, he leaves a very young daughter  of 19-20 years old. Seems he and his ex  were  very  friendly  even after  divorce via pictures where they  were each's escorts for things.

Seems this organization  did  very important work. Very worthwhile cause.
He  may  be dead, they those  in this  will continue the  good work.

Good  for the  daughter, family of  MS, there  was no other party involved  such as  one of NYC's  ladies OR men of the night  via  an agency  or the streeets.  You know  the  rags  will run with crazy stories, but  it  was  not so.
Thank Goodness  his death  was not  at the hands  of  one of our  KILLERS  here. NYC  doesn't need any  bad  press from one of their many  criminals.

The bar  was  not  some dive, trashy place. The man  did nothing wrong.

Who  said  , falls can be dangerous...so true.

What  , just an awful , bad, fatal accident.



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My  gossippy sidenote...so stop reading now  if  you do not  want  to read......
PH, PW  AND  PK I am sure  will attend the  funeral services of their " beloved  stepuncle?!?!"  LOL!
I know they  must, have to show resepct  to  their father  with things of BRF to Camealya, Queen next up,  but attend her  brother's funeral? Really?
If this were a Spencer  aunt or uncle, I doubt they  would  go or I would be surprised if they  would attend.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Lothwen on April 24, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
Very sad news :no:
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Post by: sara8150 on April 24, 2014, 03:21:26 AM
Kate and William pause during their Australian visit to express their sadness over the death of Camilla's brother Mark Shand
Kate and William pause during their Australian visit to express their sadness over the death of Camilla's brother Mark Shand | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611744/Kate-William-interrupt-Australian-visit-express-sadness-death-Camillas-brother-Mark-Shand.html)

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A playboy and gossip but he never let his beloved sister down: Richard Kay on the Mark Shand he knew
A playboy and gossip but he never let his beloved sister down: Richard Kay on the Mark Shand he knew | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611454/A-man-extraordinary-vitality-tireless-campaigner-conservationist-Life-times-Mark-Shand.html)

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Pictured hours before his death: Camilla's brother Mark Shand, 62, smiling for cameras with his 'secret fianceé', 36, and Princess Eugenie
Pictured hours before his fatal slip in New York bar: Camilla's brother Mark Shand, 62, smiling for camera's with his 'secret fianceé, Ruth Powys, 36, (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611776/Pictured-hours-fatal-slip-outside-New-York-bar-Camillas-brother-Mark-Shand-62-smiling-cameras-secret-fiance-Ruth-Powys.html)

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Duchess of Cornwall 'utterly devastated' by death of brother Mark Shand
Duchess of Cornwall 'utterly devastated' by death of brother Mark Shand - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10783907/Duchess-of-Cornwall-utterly-devastated-by-death-of-brother-Mark-Shand.html)

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William and Kate lead tributes to Mark Shand, brother of the Duchess of Cornwall
William and Kate lead tributes to Mark Shand, brother of the Duchess of Cornwall - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10784095/William-and-Kate-lead-tributes-to-Mark-Shand-brother-of-the-Duchess-of-Cornwall.html)

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Camilla 'Utterly Devastated' At Death Of Brother
Camilla 'Utterly Devastated' At Death Of Brother (http://news.sky.com/story/1247993/camilla-utterly-devastated-at-death-of-brother)

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William and Kate "saddened" by death of Camilla's brother Mark Shand
Mark Shand: William and Kate "saddened" by death of Camilla's brother - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mark-shand-william-kate-saddened-3448645)

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Prince Charles' brother-in-law dies in New York
Prince Charles' brother-in-law dies in New York - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/us/prince-charles-brother-in-law-dies/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

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Camilla's brother dies in New York after head injury
Camilla's brother dies in New York after head injury - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/camillas-brother-dies-in-new-york-after-head-injury/)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 24, 2014, 10:46:06 AM
QuoteCamilla and Charles 'Utterly Devastated' as Duchess's Brother Mark Shand, 62, Dies After Slipping and Smashing His head When He Left £1 Million Fundraiser in New York for His Elephant Charity

The Duchess of Cornwall was left ‘utterly devastated’ last night by the death of her younger brother in New York.  Mark Shand, 62, suffered a head injury when he slipped and fell on the pavement on a night out in Manhattan. He was put on life support but doctors could not save him and he died 12 hours later.

Camilla, 66, was extremely close to her only brother, who was known for his swashbuckling travel books and passionate commitment to conservation.

A source close to her said: ‘The Duchess is up at Birkhall [her and Charles’s Scottish retreat] with the Prince at the moment and to say that she is devastated is an understatement. They are a very close family and even if they didn’t see each other every week – as was often the case with Mark – were in constant contact.

‘It is just the most tragic of accidents. No one can quite believe it has happened. He was always such a vital man, so full of life.’

More: Camilla's brother Mark Shand, 62, dies after smashing head in fall in NY after leaving £1m charity fundraising event | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611390/Camillas-brother-Mark-Shand-dies-hitting-head-outside-NY-nightclub.html)

Cindy



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QuoteA Statement from Clarence House About The Duchess of Cornwall's Brother Mark Shand

It is with deep sadness that we have to confirm that The Duchess of Cornwall's brother, Mark Shand, has today passed away in New York. 

Mr Shand died in hospital as a result of a serious head injury which he sustained during a fall last night.

The Duchess, The Prince of Wales and all her family members are utterly devastated by this sudden and tragic loss. 

Mark Shand was a man of extraordinary vitality, a tireless campaigner and conservationist whose incredible work through The Elephant Family and beyond remained his focus right up until his death.

More: Our view (http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-and-diary/10072/our-view)

Cindy
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: marine2109 on April 24, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cornwall?s Brother Has Passed Away. | The Royal Correspondent (http://royalcorrespondent.com/2014/04/23/her-royal-highness-the-duchess-of-cornwalls-brother-has-passed-away/)

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Fallece Mark Shand, hermano de Camilla, tras una caída en Nueva York (http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_inglesa/2014042470939/fallece-mark-shand-hermano-camilla/)

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Mort brutale de Mark Shand, frère de Camilla Parker Bowles (http://www.purepeople.com/article/mort-brutale-de-mark-shand-frere-de-camilla-parker-bowles_a140240/1)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 24, 2014, 04:39:50 PM


Cindy
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sara8150 on April 24, 2014, 05:05:09 PM
EXCLUSIVE: 'Mark was my everything, he gave me everything I have': Devastated secret love of Camilla's brother reveals how she held her hand on his heart as he died after fall outside New York bar
'Camilla's son Tom Parker Bowles and nephew fly to New York to collect Mark Shand's body' | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612167/Camillas-son-Tom-Parker-Bowles-nephew-fly-New-York-collect-Mark-Shands-body-62-year-old-died-hitting-head-went-revolving-door.html)

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Revealed: Camilla's tragic brother 'was on a cocktail of blood pressure drugs which increased risk of fainting, falling and dizziness'
Mark Shand was on a cocktail of blood pressure drugs when he died | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612300/Mark-Shand-cocktail-blood-pressure-drugs-died.html)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: FanDianaFancy on April 24, 2014, 10:58:29 PM
Awwww,  the media rumors. Cocktail of blood pressure  meds....
That is  nothing new, rare, special.
Many take   2 or 3  blood pressure  meds.

The guy died in a tragic way that can befall anyone. He  left a very young and now  wealthy,no doubt, daughter  of 19-20 years old.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: HereditaryPrincess on April 24, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
This is very sad news. I can imagine that Camilla and the rest of the family are devastated. :cry: I have a what might seem like an obvious question, but are the Shands related to Princess Diana's mother, Frances Shand Kydd? I'm sure I've read that they're distant cousins or something like that, but I could be imagining things. Shand doesn't seem to be a very common surname, so I was just wondering.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: FanDianaFancy on April 24, 2014, 11:03:43 PM
Shand was Diana's  mother's  second  marriage name.
I wondered that too.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 24, 2014, 11:04:42 PM
Diana's mother married an Australian man with the surname Shand-Kydd.  So, no relation.

Cindy
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: HereditaryPrincess on April 24, 2014, 11:08:28 PM
^^^ Thanks cinrit. :) Although I do think it's a little strange that their not related, as Shand doesn't seem to be a very common surname. However this can happen - just because you have the same surname as someone else, doesn't mean you're related. (One of my relatives used to claim that she was related to a famous person because they had the same surname, but they weren't, just as a personal example.)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sara8150 on April 25, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612592/Now-Charles-save-Camilla-just-saved-darkest-hour-following-death-Queen-Mother.html)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: marine2109 on April 25, 2014, 07:08:37 AM
Mark Shand's nephew pays tribute to late uncle - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014042418393/mark-shand-nephew-pays-tribute/)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Eri on April 25, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Diana's fanatics are behaving horribly on The Daily Fail comments section !!! :censored2: The man had nothing to do with The Prince's first marriage !!!
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sandy on April 25, 2014, 04:40:46 PM
I don't hold anything against Mark. He is not Camilla plus he did not trade in on his sister's marriage to Charles.

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Quote from: sara8150 on April 25, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612592/Now-Charles-save-Camilla-just-saved-darkest-hour-following-death-Queen-Mother.html)

At the time the Queen Mum died and soon after her funeral, Charles and Camilla flew to Scotland to claim his inheritance from her. I remember the story of Charles bringing Camilla to Craithie Church a place she could not go to in the Queen Mums lifetime. I don't think Camilla was all that fond of the Queen Mum considering how she told Charles she wanted no C and C wedding in her lifetime. This story sounds like romance novel drivel.  I'm sorry the Shands lost Mark but to cheapen it into a Saint Camilla promotion is nauseating.

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Quote from: Eri on April 25, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Diana's fanatics are behaving horribly on The Daily Fail comments section !!! :censored2: The man had nothing to do with The Prince's first marriage !!!

Nobody is trashing Mark. But they are trashing the cheap PR ploy of promoting "saint Camilla" who saved Charles. From what? Himself? This is supposed to be about Mark not about Camilla "comforting" Charles.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: TLLK on April 25, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
Sorry to see that anyone would take the opportunity to speak poorly in a time like this one. Trolls can be found anywhere.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Eri on April 25, 2014, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: sandy on April 25, 2014, 04:40:46 PM
I don't hold anything against Mark. He is not Camilla plus he did not trade in on his sister's marriage to Charles.

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Quote from: sara8150 on April 25, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612592/Now-Charles-save-Camilla-just-saved-darkest-hour-following-death-Queen-Mother.html)

At the time the Queen Mum died and soon after her funeral, Charles and Camilla flew to Scotland to claim his inheritance from her. I remember the story of Charles bringing Camilla to Craithie Church a place she could not go to in the Queen Mums lifetime. I don't think Camilla was all that fond of the Queen Mum considering how she told Charles she wanted no C and C wedding in her lifetime. This story sounds like romance novel drivel.  I'm sorry the Shands lost Mark but to cheapen it into a Saint Camilla promotion is nauseating.

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Quote from: Eri on April 25, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Diana's fanatics are behaving horribly on The Daily Fail comments section !!! :censored2: The man had nothing to do with The Prince's first marriage !!!

Nobody is trashing Mark. But they are trashing the cheap PR ploy of promoting "saint Camilla" who saved Charles. From what? Himself? This is supposed to be about Mark not about Camilla "comforting" Charles.
PR ploy by Di's friend to whom she leaked? That doesn't make sense ...
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Trudie on April 25, 2014, 11:34:53 PM
^ Makes perfect sense to me Eri after all Diana has been dead almost 17 years and Charles and Camilla are closer to the throne. Kay does earn his living as a journalist and a royal one at  that. He does need his job so why not cultivate and redeem himself to Charles and Camilla.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sandy on April 26, 2014, 12:00:55 AM
My point that it is wrong on many levels to use Mark Shand's death to write a promotion piece about how Camilla helped Charles in his grief over the Queen Mum. Totally irrelevant since this is not about Camilla and  Charles but Mark Shand.  The ones who should be written about are his next of kin including his lovely young daughter.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: cinrit on April 26, 2014, 12:53:23 PM
QuoteMark Shand - Obituary

Mark Shand, who has died aged 62, was the brother of the Duchess of Cornwall and a noted conservationist.

An adventurer in the best sense of the word, Shand never tied himself to anything so tedious as a full-time job. Among his earliest heroes was the 19th-century explorer Sir Richard Burton, and his exploits included riding on horseback through the Andes, journeying to Tibet and being shipwrecked in the western Pacific during a hurricane. His first book, Skulduggery (1987), told of an expedition to an uncharted territory in the Indonesian archipelago, Irian Jaya, which was said to be seething with cannibals.

All this might have degenerated into a life of exotic dilettantism. But while travelling in India in 1988, Shand come across an emaciated captive female elephant being used for begging purposes by her owners: “My mouth went dry,” he later wrote of the moment when he first saw her. “I knew then that I had to have her.” He bought the animal, named her Tara and rode her 750 miles from Konarak on the Bay of Bengal to the Sonepur Mela, the ancient elephant trading fair at Patna on the Ganges. Travels on My Elephant (1992), his account of the journey, was a bestseller and won him the Travel Writer of the Year Award.

More: Mark Shand - obituary - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/10783674/Mark-Shand-obituary.html)

QuoteDaughter of Mark Shand Posts Touching Photo of Late Father on Facebook

The daughter of Mark Shand, the Duchess of Cornwall's brother, paid tribute to her late father on Facebook today.

Ayesha Shand, 19, posted a moving photo of her and the 62-year-old smiling together on the social networking site.

The teenager was in Italy when Camilla's brother died in New York after a fund raising event for his Elephant Family charity.

More: Mark Shand: Daughter Ayesha posts touching photo of late father on Facebook | Royal | News | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/472492/Mark-Shand-Daughter-Ayesha-posts-touching-photo-of-late-father-on-Facebook)

Cindy
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Post by: sandy on April 26, 2014, 03:08:11 PM
That's the way it should be Cindy (the articles you posted) and the press avoid the opportunity of playing up to C and C by bringing up an irrelevant story about the Queen Mum.  The press did not have the bad taste to do this when Camilla's father passed on, I guess the media is on a feeding frenzy now to butter up C and C. Cindy, I know the daughter was mentioned but I still think dragging C and C spin into it is in poor taste. It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Lothwen on April 26, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
^I agree with you. 
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Post by: FanDianaFancy on April 26, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
I agree as well.  We are  not being critical of anyone here, but of the media as usual.

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That is the  game of media, some of the  so-called  journalist anyway.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on April 26, 2014, 11:31:32 PM
QuoteUncle Mark is dead. Four words I never thought I'd write. It never even crossed my mind that Mark would cease to be.

Idiotic, I know, but such was the raw power of his personality, the blinding glare of his charm, the sheer force and magnetism of his character, that I never imagined life without him. None of us did. Other people die. Normal folk expire. Not Mark.

Death is for pencil-pushers, bank managers and pompous golf club bores. But now he's gone. Ripped from our grasp. Way before his time.
More: The greatest uncle a boy could have: In an utterly heartwrenching and deeply personal homage, Camilla's son breaks his family's silence on the death (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614050/The-greatest-uncle-boy-In-utterly-heartwrenching-deeply-personal-homage-Camillas-son-breaks-familys-silence-death-Mark-Shand.html)
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: sandy on April 27, 2014, 12:22:32 AM
I'm glad he's paying tribute to his uncle. Better than his name dropping Sir that's for sure.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Princess Cassandra on April 27, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
It's beautiful written.  It helps you to see what a remarkable man he was and the strong influence he had on his nieces and nephews, and I'm sure, his daughter.  I confess I never knew anything about him before.
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Eri on April 27, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
The fact some had it in them to talk nonsense when the man's body wasn't even cold yet is mind blowing ...
Title: Re: Mark Shand has died after injuring his head in fall outside NY club
Post by: Limabeany on April 27, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on April 25, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Now Charles can save Camilla, just as she saved him in his darkest hour following the death of Queen Mother | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612592/Now-Charles-save-Camilla-just-saved-darkest-hour-following-death-Queen-Mother.html)

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When Charles' affair with Camilla was first made public by author Andrew Morton – and then by the execrable 'Camillagate' tape – the Prince could hide away while Camilla had the paparazzi camped on her doorstep.

In fact, as I revealed it was the 'outing' of Camilla which incensed the prince more than any other aspect of the whole sorry saga of his break-up with Diana – and he held her personally responsible for it.

Diana later told me how, ignoring her own despair at the unravelling of their lives, Charles had pointedly complained about 'poor Camilla' being thrust into the spotlight.
The irony remained with Diana for the rest of her life.

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Camilla will now be hoping those princely qualities will be devoted to her. In recent months she had begun finding that her role as a full-time royal, taking on more duties as the Queen reduces her workload, had placed a barrier with her existence beyond palace life.

Her friends found it harder and harder to see her and, according to a close aide, this had made her lonely. 'It was no criticism of Charles, it was just a fact of life of the system,' says the friend.

The only people she saw regularly were the family: her children Tom and Laura and her grandchildren, and Annabel and Mark. Annabel and her husband, businessman Simon Elliot, had been an indispensable part of her transition into royal life after Diana's death in 1997.

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[Camilla] has become the most valued figure in the life of the prince, one who has helped to soften him and soothe away those princely anxieties

Charles, says friends, will do 'whatever she wants'. As one close friend says: 'He loves her and he is a very kind and caring man. He does feel things keenly and he will be both shaken himself and hate watching her grief.

'So he will have to try and balance all the usual duty stuff with looking after her. Actually he is good at showing loving kindness – much more so than his parents.'

Ten years after their Windsor wedding, their marriage is more secure than ever. In a few short weeks it will be 20 years since Charles' television confession about his adultery with the then Mrs Parker Bowles, the third person in the Wales's crowded marriage.

Two decades on the woman once described as the 'most reviled in the country' occupies a position of affection with large swathes of the country.

We have come to appreciate the deep and affectionate relationship which exists between her and the Prince of Wales. She has become the most valued figure in the life of the prince, one who has helped
to soften him and soothe away those princely anxieties.

Now in the depth of the loss of her brother, it is Charles who must put aside other distractions to be the dependable figure in her life.
Is there any event not sacred or emotional enough to them that they wouldn't consider using it to advance their pr agendas?  :no:
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Post by: SophieChloe on April 27, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
The death of the Queen Mother was his darkest time?...She was very old, she had a great and grand life.  What about the premature death of Diana, the Mother of his children. 
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Post by: Limabeany on April 27, 2014, 07:36:42 PM
That is exactly what my friend said a few minutes ago, she lost her husband 15 years ago, and she said telling her young boys (11 & 6) that he was dead and watching them cry and grieve tore her up even more than her own grief...
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Post by: sandy on April 27, 2014, 07:37:30 PM
Charles was the one who named Camilla--he confessed adultery then his secretary publicly confirmed that Camilla was the one he cheated with. Morton never named Camilla "mistress" to Charles and Charles friends denied that there was any affair.  Charles does not seem a kind and caring person to me. And neither does Camilla.  Charles never showed loving kindness to his first wife, he was downright nasty to her even making fun of her bulimia.

And pushing their agenda at the time of her brother's death is just poor taste.
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Post by: cinrit on April 27, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
I think it's the media that's pushing their agenda, not Charles or Camilla.  The only thing we've heard from them about Mark's death is a notice that was put on Charles' website.

Cindy
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Post by: sandy on April 27, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
It is subject to speculation if Charles PR team has anything to do with these promotional articles (that sound like bad romance novels) or is it the possibility that writers want to win points with C and C and possible get honors for journalism.
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Post by: FanDianaFancy on April 27, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
Eri, that is the media.
Sohie, I agree with that about  his grandmother.
sandy  and others, I agree it  is  the meida who want to get in favor at any and every turn  spewing  stories like these and not PC and not C  and their TPTB.
These British  reporters who are fans of PC and C will SAY ANYTHING at ANY  turn on ANY ANGLE to promote the  story  of PC and C.
Wait for it.
I  know  it  is coming  closer and closer that  Camilla practically raised  Diana's sons   by guiding PC.

Here, Camilla lost her dear brother. She  will  be able to  put in a  way  to  move from her grief  and onto her good memories.  her sister and her children and Camilla's children will to. You accept a death at some point and move on, live on.  Different death's  are different. GE, the  QM  was the death of an old  lady who lived several lives.  She  lived to see great grandchildren.
Diana left two  teen  boys ( teen and preteen).
MShand's daughter  will take more time, naturally  , to  accept and live on. She is very young, although an adult, but  is  getting out there to live her life.
Poor girl even though she is rich.
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Post by: SophieChloe on April 27, 2014, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on April 27, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
Here, Camilla lost her dear brother. She  will  be able to  put in a  way  to  move from her grief  and onto her good memories.  her sister and her children and Camilla's children will to. You accept a death at some point and move on, live on. 
Well said, FDF!  He was her dear Brother.  May he rest in peace.   
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Post by: Limabeany on April 27, 2014, 09:49:00 PM
Was he her only sibling?
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Post by: SophieChloe on April 27, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
She has a Sister : Annabel Shand Elliot
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Post by: Limabeany on April 27, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
 :thanks:
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Post by: TLLK on April 28, 2014, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: cinrit on April 27, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
I think it's the media that's pushing their agenda, not Charles or Camilla.  The only thing we've heard from them about Mark's death is a notice that was put on Charles' website.

Cindy
I agree. The couple has made a simple statement and for now nothing else has been stated.
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Post by: sandy on April 28, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
I am not so sure that Kay's article did not have Charles' seal of approval.  He always hides behind other people even though he might be responsible for this sort of PR. Lots of smoke and mirrors.
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Post by: Blue Clover on April 28, 2014, 06:25:14 PM
It does sound like Mark Shand lived a rich, full and adventurous life according to his family members. When is the funeral?
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Post by: TLLK on April 28, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
BC-I haven't seen any information on a funeral and/or memorial service yet.
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Post by: cinrit on May 01, 2014, 12:00:21 PM
QuoteDuchess of Cornwall's Brother Mark Shand to be Buried in Private Family Family funeral in Dorset Today

The private family funeral of the Duchess of Cornwall's brother Mark Shand is to take place in Dorset today.  Conservationist and travel writer Mr Shand died unexpectedly last week after falling and hitting his head in New York.

Camilla and her family, who were left devastated by the 62-year-old adventurer's death, will gather for a private family funeral at Holy Trinity Church in Stourpaine.

The Prince of Wales will be at his wife's side to support her during the service.

More: Mark Shand to be buried in private family funeral in Dorset today | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617246/Mark-Shand-buried-private-family-funeral-Dorset-today.html)

Cindy
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Post by: Orchid on May 01, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
Camilla's farewell to her tragic brother: Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Charles arrive at the family funeral of Mark Shand who died in hotel fall in (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617652/The-Duchess-Cornwall-Prince-Charles-arrive-family-funeral-brother-Mark-Shand.html)

A most inspirational and kind man.  I do find it a sad pity though that the media cannot leave the family alone during the funeral service.
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Post by: TLLK on May 01, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
 :goodpost: Orchid. It would be better for the family to be left alone.
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Post by: sara8150 on May 01, 2014, 06:35:10 PM
Duchess leads mourners at brother Mark Shand's funeral
BBC News - Duchess leads mourners at brother Mark Shand's funeral (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27240146)

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Camilla's tears for beloved brother: Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Charles lead mourners including Mark Shand's distraught former girlfriend at his funeral
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, and Prince Charles attend funeral of her brother Mark Shand | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617652/The-Duchess-Cornwall-Prince-Charles-arrive-family-funeral-brother-Mark-Shand.html)

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Camilla's tears as she leads mourners at Mark Shand's funeral
Camilla's tears as she leads mourners at Mark Shand's funeral - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10801236/Camillas-tears-as-she-leads-mourners-at-Mark-Shands-funeral.html)

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Prince Charles and Camilla lead mourners at Mark Shand's funeral
The Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Charles attended Mark Shand's funeral on Thursday - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2014050118532/camilla-prince-charles-attend-mark-shand-funeral/)
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Post by: Lady Adams on May 02, 2014, 12:27:17 AM
Arthur Edwards tweeted a photo of the floral displays inside the church, and I thought they were so appropriate and lovely, truly one of a kind:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlYWh7IIAAIFlR.jpg:large

Quote from: TLLK on May 01, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
:goodpost: Orchid. It would be better for the family to be left alone.
Agreed-- the photo of Camilla crying was heart wrenching.

Strange BP didn't issue a polite request asking papers not to print them, a la the Cambridges.
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Post by: sandy on May 02, 2014, 12:58:17 AM
I could have done without seeing these photos. It should have been private. And it was a bit over the top with the  headline saying Camilla was "leading" the mourners. It was not a parade it was a celebration of Mr Shand's life. Mark Shand's closest next of kin is his daughter and it would be fairer to say that the family was "leading" the mourners.

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Post by: Queen Camilla on May 02, 2014, 07:41:11 AM
Quote from: Lady Adams on May 02, 2014, 12:27:17 AM
Arthur Edwards tweeted a photo of the floral displays inside the church, and I thought they were so appropriate and lovely, truly one of a kind:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlYWh7IIAAIFlR.jpg:large

Thanks Lady Adams for the photo of floral display inside the church.  A perfect tribute to Mark.
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Post by: marine2109 on May 02, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
Search - Getty Images : GBR: The Prince Of Wales And The Duchess Of Cornwall Attended The Funeral Mark Shand (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=488037771&EditorialProduct=Royalty)

AFP | ImfDiffusion - CELEBRITIES / UK: Funeral of Mark Shand, brother of Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall / (http://www.imageforum-diffusion.afp.com/ImfDiffusion/Search/Results.aspx?numPage=1&srchMd=4&ThemeID=3170959&lang=&ID_Fulcrum=-1514752556_0&mui=1)

ROYALIMAGES | ANP Foto (https://www.anpfoto.nl/royalimages/search.pp?eventid=1773977)

face to face (http://facetoface.de/webgate/index.php?OFFER=00260252%7C%7CIn+tiefer+Trauer%21+Camilla+weint+bei+der+Beisetzung+ihres+Bruders+Mark+Shand+in+Dorset+%2F%2F+Funeral+of+Mark+Shand+&SEARCHMODE=NEW&TABLIGHTBOX=RESULT&SEARCHSHOWTAB=1)

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Post by: Eri on May 02, 2014, 12:52:46 PM
There is so much wrong with those pictures I don't know where to begin ... on a shallow note ... damn !!! Chuck really know how to wear a suit I wish he would land his Tailor to his sons ...
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Post by: marine2109 on May 02, 2014, 01:09:27 PM
QuoteCamilla's tears at the funeral of his brother Mark Shand

Las lágrimas de Camilla en el funeral de su hermano Mark Shand (http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_inglesa/2014050171074/duquesa-de-cornualles-funeral-mark-shand/)

https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hola.com%2Frealeza%2Fcasa_inglesa%2F2014050171074%2Fduquesa-de-cornualles-funeral-mark-shand%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Camilla Parker Bowles : Effondrée aux obsèques de Mark Shand, son frère (http://www.purepeople.com/article/camilla-parker-bowles-effondree-aux-obseques-de-mark-shand-son-frere_a140654/1)

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QuoteDuchess Camilla in tears for his brother's funeral

Hertuginde Camilla i tårer til sin brors begravelse | Billed Bladet (http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige/england/hertuginde-camilla-i-taarer-til-sin-brors-begravelse)

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Camilla Parker despide a su hermano entre lágrimas - Diez Minutos (http://www.diezminutos.es/familia-real/otras-monarquias/camilla-parker-despide-a-su-hermano-entre-lagrimas)

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Camilla Parker, rota de dolor junto al Príncipe Carlos en el funeral de su hermano Mark Shand - Bekia (http://www.bekia.es/realeza/noticias/camilla-parker-rota-dolor-junto-principe-carlos-funeral-hermano-mark-shand/)

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Dernier adieu à son frère. Les larmes de Camilla - Paris Match (http://www.parismatch.com/Royal-Blog/Royaume-Uni/Les-larmes-de-Camilla-562210)

Herzogin Camilla + Prinz Charles: Trauerfeier für Camillas Bruder | GALA.DE (http://www.gala.de/royals/briten/herzogin-camilla-prinz-charles-trauerfeier-fuer-camillas-bruder_1087046.html)
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Post by: sandy on May 02, 2014, 02:51:05 PM
So many photos. I wish it had been kept private.
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Post by: Limabeany on May 02, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: Eri on May 02, 2014, 12:52:46 PM
There is so much wrong with those pictures I don't know where to begin ... on a shallow note ... damn !!! Chuck really know how to wear a suit I wish he would land his Tailor to his sons ...
Agreed on all levels, I am having the hardest time making sense of the daughter in these pictures, and the fact that these pictures are taken at all at any funeral, and the fact that Charles has impeccably fitted suits and his much younger sons... Well, we all have seen them...  :orchid:
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Post by: HereditaryPrincess on May 03, 2014, 06:03:53 PM
I've heard elsewhere that Tatiana Santo Domingo (wife of Andrea Casiraghi, Albert II of Monacos's nephew) was at the funeral. I'm not sure how she's connected to the Shands, it would be interesting to know. :hmm:

On another note, I agree with sandy on the photos. It was meant to be a private funeral. :no:
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Post by: cinrit on May 03, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
I guess if you're well-known enough, or connected to someone well-known enough, the media will be all over your funeral.  The first time I saw such intrusion was in the mid-80's when Sir Michael Redgrave died.  I happened to be in London at the time, and I remember watching the news of the funeral on TV, the cameras panning to close-ups of Vanessa and Lynn, both of whom were sobbing.  I was appalled....

Cindy
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Post by: Lothwen on May 03, 2014, 06:23:30 PM
^It was a private affair which meant there were no cameras inside the service, but as people were walking in and out of the church the photographers were there.
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Post by: cinrit on May 03, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
^^ Yes ... and same for Michael Redgrave's funeral.  Intrusive even if outside, IMO.

Cindy
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Post by: cate1949 on May 04, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
I think the daughter dressed that way as a salute to his life's work -

I suspect that the media was allowed because it does humanize Camilla and for people who still dislike her - perhaps may make them more sympathetic.
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Post by: Limabeany on May 04, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I meant her joy, I didn't have it in me that soon, especially because it was unexpected, but we all have different spirits and move on at different speeds.  :happycry:
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Post by: Princess Cassandra on May 04, 2014, 04:28:34 PM
Don't forget, Mr. Shand's daughter is technically still an adolescent, and at this stage of her life she may not quite realize the significance of her loss.  I've known two who lost important family members at 13 and 18 - they didn't really deal with it until they were older.  I realize that sounds strange, but it is true.  Possibly that's what is going on here.       
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Post by: Limabeany on May 04, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
I agree, teenagers nowadays mature differently and it depends on the family as well, I have never seen teens or adolescents quite like that especially with an unexpected death of a parent, but, people are different, my inability to grasp it does not signify more than that, I don't understand extremists, how people can consider clubbing baby seals acceptable, fans of famous people who lose perspective where they are concerned or wearing underwear as clothes either... :blahblahblah:
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Post by: Princess Cassandra on May 04, 2014, 09:07:51 PM
I'm in total agreement with you on all that stuff, Limabeany! :clap:  I wish I had not seen the pictures as the family were arriving and leaving -  I felt as if I were intruding on their privacy, just by looking at them.  But, I did see them, and saw that Camilla is really feeling the loss of her brother.

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Opps - I didn't mean to make it look as if were clapping for the pictures taken at the funeral.  I apologize!
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Post by: SophieChloe on May 04, 2014, 09:14:15 PM
No need to apologise - I'm sure we understood  :hug?: :hug:
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Post by: Princess Cassandra on May 04, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
Opps - I didn't mean to make it look as if I were clapping about the family arriving and leaving the funeral!  I apologize to everyone.
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Post by: cinrit on May 04, 2014, 10:20:38 PM
^^ No worries, Princess Cassandra.  We knew you didn't mean it that way. :hug: :hug:

Cindy
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Post by: Limabeany on May 04, 2014, 10:45:21 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 04, 2014, 09:07:51 PM
Opps - I didn't mean to make it look as if were clapping for the pictures taken at the funeral.  I apologize!
We know, sweetie!  :hug: :happy15: