The Duke and Duchess of Sussex Interviews, TV and other media events Part 4

[TLLK]

Welcome to Part 4 of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex TV, Interviews.

The previous thread can be found here.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex interviews, TV and other media events Part 3

[Curryong]

Netflix has announced that the Harry and Meghan doco series was the second most successful ever for the streaming giant.

Netflix reveals Harry and Meghan as most successful documentary ever

Netflix has announced the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's recent series, Harry & Meghan, which revealed behind the scenes details of royal life as its second-highest ranked documentary ever.

[wannable]

Meghan's turn



Trailer
Meghan Markle: Unforgiven (Official Trailer) - YouTube

Director
Nick Randall
Writer
Nick Randall
Cast of actors
Meghan Duchess of Sussex
Prince Harry
Gemma Collins

[changemhysoul]

An interview from Liz Garbus (director behind Harry & Meghan Netflix) for Vanity Fair.

The archive link is here Harry & Meghan Director Liz Garbus Wanted to ?Connect the Dots? to ?Larger Historical Issues? | Vanity Fair

Some quotes from the article....


?People are very happy to read everything about Harry and Meghan when it?s somebody else writing about them,? says the filmmaker. ?But when Harry and Meghan want to tell their story in their own words, it suddenly becomes an issue. People are not forced to watch a documentary. It?s not going to be required in school. It is your choice what you binge and what you don?t binge. There have been more documentaries and books written about Harry and Meghan than Harry and Meghan have produced themselves. So I think it?s an interesting kind of pearl-clutching that doesn?t quite add up with the public?s appetite for reading stuff about them from other people.?

Though she wasn?t a royal watcher, Garbus says that making the documentary was, at times, a surreal immersion exercise into the alleged palace mind games Harry and Meghan described to her. ?For instance, Buckingham Palace said that we didn?t reach out for comment [on the docuseries] when we did,? says Garbus. ?They did that to discredit us?and by discrediting us, they can discredit the content of the show.? We lived through some of those moments that were a little bit like Alice Through the Looking Glass.?

Garbus, meanwhile, did not direct her first scripted feature until 2020?s Lost Girls. ?Documentary has always been more open to women,? says the filmmaker. ?I think there?s a very cynical reason for that, which is that it?s lower-paid and [offers] smaller budgets.?

The first half of it is more Harry and Meghan centered and the second half talks about her works and views on film-making, etc and the industry.

[HistoryGirl2]

Meghan's turn



Trailer
Meghan Markle: Unforgiven (Official Trailer) - YouTube

Director
Nick Randall
Writer
Nick Randall
Cast of actors
Meghan Duchess of Sussex
Prince Harry
Gemma Collins

Lol the level of narcissism is just laughable at this point.

[Curryong]

Lol the level of narcissism is just laughable at this point.

Why narcissism? This thing is a short doco ABOUT Meghan. It?s not made by her, endorsed by her or starring her. She has nothing to do with it. However the guy that has just made this has roped in Trevor Engelson, Meghan?s ex, to make something as well, so there are plenty of others wanting a slice of the pie.

[changemhysoul]

Why narcissism? This thing is a short doco ABOUT Meghan. It?s not made by her, endorsed by her or starring her. She has nothing to do with it. However the guy that has just made this has roped in Trevor Engelson, Meghan?s ex, to make something as well, so there are plenty of others wanting a slice of the pie.

Agree.


Looking it up, the cast includes:

Gemma Collins      
Ingrid Seward      
Ashley Pearson      
Roya Nikkhah      
Robert Jobson      
Emily Nash      
Allyson Stewart-Allen      
Dani States      
Ruth Wrigley

Ingrid, Roya, Robert are openly and many times have talked about how awful Meghan is and how much they dislike her.

Emily Nash is a little more balanced.

I don't know the other names but googling Gemma Collins has only negative things to say.

There is no proof she has any connection to this.

[Curryong]

And the only thing I know about Allyson Stewart-Allen is that she is a British based Californian author who has written a book called (presumably for a British readership) ?Working with Americans?. She is probably there to speak about Meghan vs BP. So fear not, somehow I don?t think this documentary will be filled with Meghan-lovers.

[Nightowl]

Well, whose next with their story, maybe Archie has tales to tell about the BRF.  What is Meghan trying to prove now........how big she is, how important, how intelligent she is, (that degree from NW really shows her smarts, right) how tough she is to take on the British Royal Family and the entire institution of over a 1,000 years old.  Just how long was she a member of the BRF that she has that many more lies to tell. 

[Curryong]

Well, whose next with their story, maybe Archie has tales to tell about the BRF.  What is Meghan trying to prove now........how big she is, how important, how intelligent she is, (that degree from NW really shows her smarts, right) how tough she is to take on the British Royal Family and the entire institution of over a 1,000 years old.  Just how long was she a member of the BRF that she has that many more lies to tell.

The Meghan documentary Unforgiven has NOTHING to do with Meghan. Nothing, nil, zilch. It?s made by a group of other people,  headed by Nick Randall. He has hired RRs and other talking heads to speak about her and that is clear when you Google it.

[HistoryGirl2]

Why narcissism? This thing is a short doco ABOUT Meghan. It?s not made by her, endorsed by her or starring her. She has nothing to do with it. However the guy that has just made this has roped in Trevor Engelson, Meghan?s ex, to make something as well, so there are plenty of others wanting a slice of the pie.

Should have looked more closely as I thought this was related to the book she?s going to be publishing soon. Easy enough to do, I suppose, after the Oprah interview, and then a 6 part documentary about how difficult it is to be a duchess.

But you are right about people wanting a slice of the pie. Can?t complain much though when they?re selling their personal lives themselves.

[changemhysoul]

To be fair to them, people were already happily grabbing a slice of the pie before either Harry or Meghan opened their mouths, so they were simply following the trends. If everyone else can make money off them, they in turn can make money off of their own story. More books, docs, tv shows, articles, podcast and etc, has been made about them than anything they've said themselves.

The documentary also wasn't a six part-series about how hard it was to be a a duchess, as Meghan never complained about the actual work. What she did take issue was the constant racism, harassments, palace leaking and bullying of the media, the death threats made and how the media fueled more racist and violent threats.

She didn't have an issue with showing up somewhere, chatting for a few minutes and waving as most work can be summed up. She was able to easily throw herself into working on the cookbook, vouge, smart works and etc. What was hard, was knowing that when people were calling her a knife wielding American and her child was being compared to a chimp, her new 'family' were silent and the new 'household' she moved into were happy to brief the papers against her while she was struggling and pregnant.

That's a little more than just being a duchess, that was being degraded as a human being.


Harry & Meghan Netflix documentary director accuses Palace of trying to 'discredit' series

the above link is more about the Harry & Meghan Netflix doc.

[wannable]

Should have looked more closely as I thought this was related to the book she?s going to be publishing soon. Easy enough to do, I suppose, after the Oprah interview, and then a 6 part documentary about how difficult it is to be a duchess.

But you are right about people wanting a slice of the pie. Can?t complain much though when they?re selling their personal lives themselves.

It IS confusing, since weeks ago RR's were stating she is writing her autobiography, reports came through with the following information:

She wants to center the book about her short period experience with the BRF, which would be called ''Unforgiven''.  Publishers negotiating with MM state it has to be an autobiography from childhood to adulthood, including the short tenure with the BRF as a member, because just the short tenure isn't enough/18 months of experience.

Did Trevor register the name before or after, hard to tell.

*****

Liz Garbuz is creating a 'new' buzz over the Netflix docuseries because it wasn't nominated for an Oscar.

[TLLK]

We're starting to drift off topic from The Sussexes' Interviews and Television events ie: Prince Harry's recent interviews related to the release of Spare or the series Harry and Meghan.  Discussion of the couple's relationship with the press, tabloids and social media should continue in this newly created thread or one of the others listed below.





New Thread for the Sussexes' relationship with the press, tabloids and social media.

The Sussexes' relationship with the press, tabloids, and social media.

To discuss the legal issues that the Sussexes have had with the tabloids ie The Daily Mail.

Duke and Duchess of Sussex All Legal Actions Part 2

To discuss royals in general besides the Sussexes and the press/paparazzi etc...

The Royals & Television Media, Tabloid Press/Photographer Pack

To discuss specific royal reporters and commentators ie: Piers Morgan

Royal Commentators, reporters and authors

[wannable]

South Park
@SouthPark

Dumb Prince and His Stupid Wife
Kyle complains about a dumb prince and his stupid wife in the all-new episode, titled ?Worldwide Privacy Tour? premiering Wednesday, February 15 at 10:00p ET/PT on Comedy Central.

https://twitter.com/SouthPark/status/1625258880887566336

[Curryong]

Ah yes, there have been so many satires on members of the BRF. There were the Spitting Image puppets of the days of Charles and Di and the QM, of course, then the Spitting Images reboot of the 2020s, also the Windsor Family TV series, taking all the senior royals off into comedy TV land. Followed by the satiric ?Prince George? US animated series. And so one episode of South Park is not likely to ruffle the feathers. And who could forget the Royle Family TV series!

Prince Charles & Camilla Royle Family spoof - BBC comedy - YouTube

Harry?s will probably laugh at himself, as he did on Steve Colbert?s show.

[wannable]

Hopefully they won't get angry. Some public people are tough skin. 

[wannable]

It's all about South Park in social media today

and this, trending

https://twitter.com/i/status/1625390382371463170

[Curryong]

Enjoying this episode as well, where the late Queen shoots herself in the head because a British Invasion of the US failed?

South Park: God Save the Queen - YouTube

And the episode where they made fun of William and Kate on Southpark is still rattling around the internet as well. 

[wannable]

Those are old whataboutisms, I was referring to today's social media trends.

[TLLK]

How Prince Harry, Meghan Markle Made Themselves 'Fair Game' for TV Spoofing

The South Park episode presented take downs of Harry's memoir Spare as well as the Sussexes' use of private jets and antipathy for the media, from the perspective of a fictional "Prince and Princess of Canada," created to look just like the couple.

This is something that entertainment expert and founder of MarkMeets, Mark Boardman, told Newsweek that the couple may have to get used to.

"It's a brave move by South Park creators to ridicule the hypocrisy of Meghan and Harry, but I have to say the recent episode 'The World-Wide Privacy Tour' is spot on, and in so many ways," Boardman said.

[HistoryGirl2]

Don?t watch South Park and never did, but it is kind of their schtick to mock celebrities and current events. Although, the Newsweek article does point to something that does tend to send some people over the edge: celebrities and wealthy people talking about doing things to help the environmental crisis and then doing the most hypocritical things. Or talking about any social cause without acknowledging exactly how their current position was gained by utilizing that inequality.

I think there?s an essence of people wanting to see them (and others) talk the talk and walk the walk because the talk comes off as virtue signaling. A lot of it is posturing or can be perceived that way. It rubs a lot of people the wrong way, myself included. I think it?s good to point out why the rest of the RF aren?t being targeted as much in this particular satire. They don?t talk. It?s difficult to find fault with people who just go on about their business. And when other RF family members have tried to take a similar road as Harry and Meghan, they?ve been hit back with criticism for the same reason.

[Curryong]

Well, I do like South Park. However, fair?s fair! #PrinceOfPegging and #PrinceWilliam was trending ALL day and night on Twitter and so suddenly the mood changed. Apparently many of the people on Twitter who are anti-sussexites who were rejoicing because of the Sussex roast didn?t know, couldn?t remember the episode featuring William and Kate.

[PrincessOfPeace]

For defenders against fake news, the South Park headline about William the Sussex Squad is sharing on social media is photoshopped. The original article and headline are easily googled.

[wannable]

I hope one day Harry get's over his envy towards his brother. He is causing a lot of hurt, usually ends in karma.  His Bryony interview is very telling that he can't get over it that every family member is different, yes there are brothers who are goody two shoes, William (I would know, we are 6, 3 brothers, 3 sisters, all different character, behaviour, goals in life, independent thoughts, likes and what not, with the difference not one has gone mad or evil)

In both the Rose and Pegging, it is publicly and widely known to come from a Social Media Sussex supporter.  ^ PrincessofPeace is correct, Forbes wrote a piece on the Pegging, investigated the paper trail, a Sussex Instagram supporter.  That supporter is not as big (followers) so to speak as the Rose one, a unemployed journalist who said she was unemployed and a Sussex supporter and invented it, although her papertrail takes her to a Harry hunting weekend in Norfolk.

Lastly, IMO he has to be very careful, spouting a ''projection'' of his own self, just saying his Vegas trip with a naked picture behind someone about to peg is disgusting. He was absolutely wasted, piled with alcohol and very likely drugs.