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Congratulations to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their daughter! I wish them all the best.
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It's a girl! Kate Middleton, Duchess of Cambridge, is 'doing well' after giving birth to her second child weighing 8lbs 3oz
The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to a baby girl, Kensington Palace has confirmed.
The princess was born at 8.34am this morning weighing 8lbs 3oz, with the Duke of Cambridge present for her birth.
Kensington Palace announced the birth shortly after 11am, some five hours after Kate was admitted to the private Lindo Wing of St Mary's Hospital in Paddington.
The Duchess and her newborn daughter are both 'doing well', a palace spokesman said.
Read more: Kate Middleton's new Royal Baby is a GIRL | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044227/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-s-new-royal-baby-GIRL.html#ixzz3Yyr5yAH5)
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QuoteKate gives birth to baby girl
Britain has a new Princess after the Duchess of Cambridge, née Kate Middleton, gave birth to her second child with Prince William by her side. Prince George's little sister was born on 2 May at 8:34 am in the exclusive Lindo Wing of St Mary's Hospital, London, weighing 8lbs 3oz.
"Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cambridge was safely delivered of a daughter at 8.34am," Kensington Palace announced on Twitter. "The baby weighs 8lbs 3oz. The Duke of Cambridge was present for the birth.
"The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Prince of Wales & The Duchess of Cornwall, Prince Harry & members of both families have been informed. Her Royal Highness and her child are both doing well."
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Kate Middleton gives birth to baby girl - hellomagazine.com (http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2015050223683/kate-middleton-gives-birth-baby-girl/)
Congratulations to them! :flower: :thumbsup:
And how wonderful that it's a girl! I think Will and Kate really wanted a daughter this time, though they didn't say so as publicly as Charles. :wink: It will be nice for the public to have a little girl to watch grow up, the last princess bornin the direct line of succession was Anne in 1950.
Congratulations to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their daughter! God Bless Them!
Will just left the hospital, looking absolutely thrilled (he said "very happy" in response to something a reporter yelled) and drove himself away. He's going to see Prince George, and KP has said he's hoping to bring George back with him but will make a decision once he sees George. Fingers crossed he's feeling cooperative!
I LOVED the tiny waves George gave to the cameras ! he's grown up so much since we saw his last pictures - such a cute child !!
I did have a feeling we would get a photography with all four of them ( mentioned that on twitter ) looks like that may happen ! ---> Face of the New Royal family ... what a picture !!!
George looks a total mixture of William and Catherine - his facial structure nose down is like baby kate ( old picture in the newspapers) - but there is a tint of grandad michael middleton too . hair and everything else is all william
George is such a cutie. He did look a bit overcome, which is probably why he didn't want to walk. All those cameras pointed at you...! He managed a wave or two and it was good Will gave him a reassuring kiss. I agree, I think he is very much a mix of William and Mike Middleton.
^^^I agree
@Curryong that an environment that many older children and adults would find intimidating would be overwhelming to a under two-year old. He probably felt more secure with his father. He still looks like he is going to favor Grandpa Mike to me.
I'm sure he'll be happy to see his mum again.
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This was a quick labor and delivery for her second child. I wonder if they will try for a third?
Aww a little girl :)
I'm wondering though, is it still cold in the UK? William and George are both wearing sweaters!
Kate looks incredible. I can't believe she only gave birth ten hours ago! Lovely dress, lovely wrap and little cap on the baby, and I'm sure the media got wonderful pictures.
I read somewhere that they weren't doing a press conference (as they did while holding George outside the hospital last time around) because it's too chilly today. Understandable that they don't want the little one outside for too long, but I'm glad it was warm enough to do the traditional photo call (I wonder what would happen if a Royal baby was ever born in January -- maybe there's an inside space at the hospital they could meet the press?). It was a nice touch to bring George by for pictures, and Will was very sweet with him.
Anyway, both Will and Kate look absolutely thrilled, and the baby girl looks very sweet. Congratulations to them both!
babies will wipe the cynicism away won't they? I am surprised at the smile on my face right now - she is a darling (well all little ones are) and Kate and Will look genuinely so happy.
George seemed a bit intimidated by the strangeness of it all and a bit curious too. Oh his life is about to change!
Please do not make us wait too long for the name!
Tower of London is bathed in pink lights and HMS Lancaster sent out a pic of sailors spelling "sister" on the deck.
Kate looked great - understandably a bit tired.
Quote from: x-Goody2Shoes-x on May 02, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
@Jenee Certainly is! Weather is infamous for changing moods in the UK and today it's freezing!
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Just watched the Duke and Duchess leaving the hospital with the Princess on the news with my family. She looks extremely well! I love her dress. Hairdresser has obviously been in. Very different atmosphere to George's presentation - much quieter, more sombre. They only brought her out as far as the steps, couple of waves, then back in to strap her in the car seat and leave. Hopefully they'll be bonding nicely at home soon.
Thanks for the weather update
@x-Goody2Shoes-x. I can see why little princess has her cap on snugly. It's going to be a busy next few days for the Cambridges as they settle in their new daughter. Grand-parents, great-grandparents, and more family will be coming through to meet the newest member of the family. :)
She is Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana of Cambridge! :partaay:
I love the name Charlotte :vday2: a little sad they put Diana in her name that was uneccecary it is too early imo.
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The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to announce that they have named their daughter Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. @Kensingtonroyal
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BREAKING: The royal baby's names have been announced as Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. She'll be known as Princess Charlotte of Cambridge.
via @RoyalCentral
Yes, the Middletons are represented in the names as well: Charlotte is Pippa's middle name, and Elizabeth is Kate's and Carole's middle name.
As for Harry: if he wishes, he could of course use Diana as a middle name (or even first name) for his daughter(s) as well. There are many current British Royals with Elizabeth as a middle name -- unlike using it as a first name where only one member of the family gets it, middle names are frequently used multiple times in the BRF.
What a beautiful name! I especially love Charlotte Elizabeth, and it's very predictable that Diana is included. Whilst I don't like Diana as a name, it's nice to include it in Princess Charlotte's name, as Princess Diana meant a lot to William (and Harry, of course). Charlotte is a royal name and also Pippa's middle name so it's actually quite meaningful for the Cambridges.
Everything with Princess Charlotte feels like it has taken much longer than it was with Prince George, to the point where it really did feel like they were going to do a Danish RF and announce the name at the christening.
Oh, and can I just say - I really like the names Charlotte and George together. :vday2:
New pics by Kate of Princess Charlotte
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it is sweet that Princess Charlotte already has a doll with her name.
Also it is special that her mother the Duchess has a doll named Catherine.
:) :nod: :flower: :) :nod: :flower: :mask7: :mask7: :mask7:
Possibley she will, but it will be after Anne is gone...
^ It can't happen until William is King anyway, and considering how healthy Anne is and how long lived the Windsors are it could well be another thirty years or more before Charlotte becomes Princess Royal.
Quote from: Curryong on February 20, 2016, 07:56:23 PM
^ It can't happen until William is King anyway, and considering how healthy Anne is and how long lived the Windsors are it could well be another thirty years or more before Charlotte becomes Princess Royal.
Charles could make Charlotte Princess royal surely if he wished, if she was the senior daughter in the royal line. Obviously not if Anne was alive.. But if Anne was gone and C was king, I can see him possibly giving the honour to Charlotte if she was at a sutiable age.
I assume given history that the title Princess Royal is within the gift of the Sovereign for their eldest female daughter. I'm positive that William when he is King will bestow this title on Charlotte once Anne has passed on.
As far as I know the title Princess Royal has only been given to the eldest daughter of the sovereign. In medieval times the older daughter status (though of course there was no styling of Princess Royal) was specifically protected and sleeping with her was a treasonous act punishable by death. Boy, did Tim Lawrence take a risk! This law was only rescinded in 1998!
^^^Hadn't considered that would be a treasonous act in the 29th century
@Curryong. Thanks for the history lesson everyone. :)
As I recall sleeping with the wife of the King or POW was also a treasonous offence.. and that didn't stop a few men. and I'm sure Anne's had other relationship's. but with regard to the P Royal title, yes it may only have been given to the daughter of the sovereign, but Charles has no daughters and he might well like to honour his eldest grand daughter.. I don't think that there is anting to FORBID its beign given to a grand daughter if there is no daughter...
Does anyone know why QEII waited years to bestow the title on Anne? Elizabeth's aunt Mary who was the last holder of the title had been gone for many years before Anne received it.
^ Good question Tllk. The only reason I can think of is that The Queen is not one to bestow an honor just for the sake of bestowing it. Look how long it took for Anne, Andrew and Edward to be made Knights of the Garter and how it was never bestowed on Princess Margaret. Harry has served two tours in Afghanistan and still has not been made a Knight even with current vacancies.
Quote from: TLLK on February 22, 2016, 12:25:38 AM
Does anyone know why QEII waited years to bestow the title on Anne? Elizabeth's aunt Mary who was the last holder of the title had been gone for many years before Anne received it.
She was probably held back by the fact that Anne's never been very popular. I think it was done to honour her for her Save the Children work
Quote from: Trudie on February 22, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
^ Good question Tllk. The only reason I can think of is that The Queen is not one to bestow an honor just for the sake of bestowing it. Look how long it took for Anne, Andrew and Edward to be made Knights of the Garter and how it was never bestowed on Princess Margaret. Harry has served two tours in Afghanistan and still has not been made a Knight even with current vacancies.
She has chosen to delay those honors when you consider how quickly her predecessors would confer them in the past. I do expect that Harry will have it someday though. I wonder if Charles will follow his mother's example when it comes to titles/honors in the future.
i think that in today's world, the King/Queen doesn't want to be seen just handing out honours because they are usually done or the people are related to her.. so she waited with Anne till there was something she could say that A had done... I'd say that Chrles will do the same.
Quote from: amabel on February 22, 2016, 08:23:57 PM
i think that in today's world, the King/Queen doesn't want to be seen just handing out honours because they are usually done or the people are related to her.. so she waited with Anne till there was something she could say that A had done... I'd say that Chrles will do the same.
^ Yes, a bit different to Queen Victoria whose first child Vicky became Princess Royal when she was a newborn.
Quote from: amabel on February 22, 2016, 08:23:57 PM
i think that in today's world, the King/Queen doesn't want to be seen just handing out honours because they are usually done or the people are related to her.. so she waited with Anne till there was something she could say that A had done... I'd say that Chrles will do the same.
I hate to keep pointing this out but Charles cannot bestow the title Princess Royal on his Granddaughter. I have researched the title and the title Princess Royal is within the gift of the Sovereign for their eldest daughter besides safe to say Anne may survive Charles reign anyway but the only way Charlotte can receive the title if A. When Anne passes on and B. Her Father is King.
^ Yes. I agree. In the last two hundred years at least the only females to become the Princesses Royal have been the eldest daughter of monarchs. Charlotte will get her turn. William may not become king for another quarter of a century or more. After Anne's death it will come to Charlotte if she wants it.
Thank you
@Trudie and
@Curryong for your research on the matter. So if the title is to be bestowed upon Charlotte it would be William's choice.
^ Exactly and even though William loves to pretend he is normal he will most probably want the highest possible title for his daughter.
This discussion makes me wonder if the Prince of Wales title will continue for the Heir? Does Wales want the title to continue? Would a female heir be known as Princess of Wales or will it continue to be reserved for the spouse of a male heir? Or will Duke of Cornwall be the new heir designation title?
The monarchies in Spain, the NL, and Belgium have full primogeniture and have now designated the titles for their heirs to be used by either gender. So we know have a Princess of Asturias (Spain), Princess of Orange (NL) and Duchess of Brabant (Belgium).
Quote from: TLLK on February 23, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
This discussion makes me wonder if the Prince of Wales title will continue for the Heir? Does Wales want the title to continue? Would a female heir be known as Princess of Wales or will it continue to be reserved for the spouse of a male heir? Or will Duke of Cornwall be the new heir designation title?
The monarchies in Spain, the NL, and Belgium have full primogeniture and have now designated the titles for their heirs to be used by either gender. So we know have a Princess of Asturias (Spain), Princess of Orange (NL) and Duchess of Brabant (Belgium).
^I have thought about this over the years TLLK. I have read that, even with limited Welsh devolution and self rule, the title for William could be subjected to a vote in the Welsh Assembly. Awkward if they say no, which is why I think it will just be given, without any pomp or ceremony such as Charles underwent. It will be some time before the issue of a female heir and possible Princess of Wales is discussed. Unless something ghastly happens to George it would only occur if he has a daughter as a first born.
As we know, unlike some Continental monarchies the BRF has produced boys as first borns in the last three generations. I think the last time it was discussed was when the present Queen reached her majority. The King, her father, was very much against Elizabeth being given the title Princess of Wales as he felt that this should be reserved for the wife of the heir. His advisers concurred. However, as we all know, it's going to be a very different world that George will be facing as King and if he does have a girl first I'm sure all the possibilities will have been thrashed out!
I agree that this has all been taken care of before George was even thought of by his parents. :lol:
When Ch is King, W and K will have those titles of PCharles and Camila have now.
PC will be King Charles and Cammill will be WILL BE QUEEN
Queen Consort, still QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queen is in there.
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on March 12, 2016, 04:35:43 PM
When Ch is King, W and K will have those titles of PCharles and Camila have now.
PC will be King Charles and Cammill will be WILL BE QUEEN
Queen Consort, still QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queen is in there.
yes but waht's this got to do with Charlotte?
Quote from: Curryong on February 23, 2016, 03:36:15 AM
^ Yes. I agree. In the last two hundred years at least the only females to become the Princesses Royal have been the eldest daughter of monarchs. Charlotte will get her turn. William may not become king for another quarter of a century or more. After Anne's death it will come to Charlotte if she wants it.
@Curryong, you mention that the title Princess Royal, after Princess Anne's demise will come to Charlotte
if she wants it. Please explain.
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Quote from: Curryong on February 23, 2016, 03:36:15 AM
^ Yes. I agree. In the last two hundred years at least the only females to become the Princesses Royal have been the eldest daughter of monarchs. Charlotte will get her turn. William may not become king for another quarter of a century or more. After Anne's death it will come to Charlotte if she wants it.
@Curryong, you mention that the title Princess Royal, after Princess Anne's demise will come to Charlotte if she wants it. Please explain.
^ Well, it's not really compulsory for Charlotte to accept the styling if her father King William offers it. Anne may live another 30 years or more and it isn't the custom to install a new Princess Royal immediately after the death of her predecessor anyway.
We don't know what sort of a person Charlotte will be as an adult, perhaps a middle aged adult, and we don't know whether William will be the sort of monarch to insist on his children having these sort of titles.
It's just my opinion but I think that this sort of thing is all up in the air really, (the Britain of 20 odd years from now will be so different and the way its royals will operate will probably be quite different, especially if William decides that the core British royal family will consist of himself, Kate, George and spouse and that's it, in the way that many Continental monarchies operate now.)
I don't see why William should operate the way that Continental royals do and If Charl wants it, as the eldest daughter of the King, I don't see why she should not have the honour.. If Princess Grumpy has been given it (and accepted it for all her grouchy dislike of "Royal fuss", ) I hope that Charlotte will be a likeable and useful person who should be given it
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Quote from: FanDianaFancy on March 12, 2016, 04:35:43 PM
When Ch is King, W and K will have those titles of PCharles and Camila have now.
PC will be King Charles and Cammill will be WILL BE QUEEN
Queen Consort, still QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Queen is in there.
yes but waht's this got to do with Charlotte?
Posting too fast and not finishing. Char will be Prince Royal, but that is a long time away when W is K. What, 30 years from now. QEII, dead. King Charles and The Princess Royal, Anne will have to be dead.
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^ Yes. I agree. In the last two hundred years at least the only females to become the Princesses Royal have been the eldest daughter of monarchs. Charlotte will get her turn. William may not become king for another quarter of a century or more. After Anne's death it will come to Charlotte if she wants it.
@Curryong, you mention that the title Princess Royal, after Princess Anne's demise will come to Charlotte if she wants it. Please explain.
^ Well, it's not really compulsory for Charlotte to accept the styling if her father King William offers it. Anne may live another 30 years or more and it isn't the custom to install a new Princess Royal immediately after the death of her predecessor anyway.
We don't know what sort of a person Charlotte will be as an adult, perhaps a middle aged adult, and we don't know whether William will be the sort of monarch to insist on his children having these sort of titles.
It's just my opinion but I think that this sort of thing is all up in the air really, (the Britain of 20 odd years from now will be so different and the way its royals will operate will probably be quite different, especially if William decides that the core British royal family will consist of himself, Kate, George and spouse and that's it, in the way that many Continental monarchies operate now.)
I wonder if we'll see an end to regional titles that are often given to the heirs-to-the-throne ie:Princess of Austurias, Duchess of Brabant, Prince of Wales for a simpler designation ie: Crown Prince in the coming years.
As for the title Princess Royal I'd almost given up on it being bestowed upon Anne until her mother chose to give it to her!
I really don't know why she did. Anne used to be one of the RF's greatest liabilities, and IMO she's still noting to boast of. I do rather like territorial titles rather than "Crown Prince", it goes back OT a country's history...
^^^ Although I do think that the BRF will follow its Continental cousins and change its composition in the next couple of reigns I can't see the title of Prince of Wales disappearing into the mists of history unless the Welsh nationalists cause a dreadful stink about it when it's given to George. (There'll probably be some protests when William receives it but nothing BP can't handle.) I don't think there'll be ceremonies connected with the granting of the title though. If these centuries old titles like Prince/Princess of Asturias go it will chip away at more of the tradition of monarchy and so I don't think they will be abolished, but that's just my opinion.
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@amabel and
@Curryong. :)
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@amabel I like the old territorial titles instead of Crown Prince(ss). Princess of Orange, Princess of Asturias, and Duchess of Brabant are lovely titles IMHO.
I agree
@Curryong that we're not likely to see a repeat of Charles' investiture ceremony in the future when William becomes the Prince of Wales. (Hopefully William will not have to wear that hideous coronet!) :blink:
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Thank you for your replies @amabel and @Curryong. :)
Like @amabel I like the old territorial titles instead of Crown Prince(ss). Princess of Orange, Princess of Asturias, and Duchess of Brabant are lovely titles IMHO.
I agree @Curryong that we're not likely to see a repeat of Charles' investiture ceremony in the future when William becomes the Prince of Wales. (Hopefully William will not have to wear that hideous coronet!) :blink:
^ Apparently Lord Snowden designed the coronet, which was very much of its time, as well as much of the surrounding theatre set, er I mean, the ceremonial chair, canopy etc. Even then there were vague murmurings of an invasion by angry Welsh nationalist protestors but they stayed away. If you look at the film of it now it looks like another age and not something out of the rebellious swinging 1960's either. It harked back to Edward's ceremony before World War One in spirit really.
Charlotte Seymour Spencer, Countess Spencer (1835-1903) was the spouse of John Spencer, 5th Earl Spencer. She would have been a member of Princess Diana's family, the Spencers.
Do you believe that Princess Charlotte of Cambridge was named after Countess Charlotte Spencer?
no
No, I don't believe that Charlotte was named after a remote ancestor of the Spencers. Charles has all his life had a great interest in the George III period and Charlotte may have been a nod towards the tragic Charlotte Duchess of Brunswick, heiress to the British throne, who died in childbirth, and who was herself named after her grandmother Queen Charlotte.
However, it's just as likely to be the feminine version of Charles POW, just as her middle name came from her grandmother Diana, a graceful compliment to both William's parents, leaving neither out.
Do you mean Princess Charl of Wales, the bouncing girl who was indeed heiress to the thorne and died in childbirth? She was a bit of a mixed blessing for the RF, an improvement on her uncles and popular but silly..
. I'd say that it s simlply that Charlotte is a royal name.. there have been lots of them and it si also of course the femimine verison of Charles. if I were Kate I'd insist that they stck in my name as well.
^ Yes, Charlotte was the Duchess of Brunswick, married to Leopold, later King of the Belgians. It is a Royal name and one that was common among the Hanovarian Georges' wives and daughters. However, it hasn't been used as a first name in the BRF for quite some time, and I think it's a nod to Charles myself, to keep him happy because Diana was among the names.
It could be that the name touched both sides of the family. My daughters middle name Mary was chosen as it was the name of my great grandmother and my grandmother in law but I believe it was chosen in honor of her paternal grandfather.
I still don't think she was named after Charles. Charlotte is a name in both sides of the family
so right her grandfather is Charles and sh'es charlotte and its not a reference to him
Charlotte may have been in honor of Queen Charlotte, the spouse of King George III.
The Cambridges may have named Charlotte after Queen Charlotte. However, I just don't see the Cambridges, or any of the younger royals huddled over family trees in the library at Windsor castle to gain inspiration for a forthcoming baby name.
Like most parents the Cambridges IMO would have primarily gone for a traditional name they liked. Charlotte is reasonably popular among the British upper classes so William would have been used to it when growing up.
Secondly, my intuition is that William had long determined that if he had a daughter then Diana would figure in her names somewhere. As Charles might have felt a bit peeved if there had been no nod to him in the name but one to his late ex wife, I believe that Charlotte was chosen because it's the female equivalent of his name, not because of some long gone ancestress.
I just don't believe that William or Kate are history buffs, certainly not to the extent that they would be searching back centuries for a daughter's name.
Quote from: amabel on April 11, 2017, 07:05:34 PM
so right her grandfather is Charles and sh'es charlotte and its not a reference to him
The Cambridges never publicly said she was named after her grandfather. But Charlotte is not the name Charles. They could have named George "Charles." Princess Charlotte, Queen Charlotte are historical characters. And Charlotte is name in the Middleton family. If they wanted to honor Charles then "Charles" would have been the first name or a name assigned to their male child.
Certainly, the boys saw portraits of Queen Charlotte their ancestress in their ancestral home. They don't have to read books to discover this.
Charlotte is the feminine of the name Charles.
I doubt very much that portraits of Queen Charlotte would have been hanging on the walls of Highgrove or the London apartment of Diana at KP, which is where the two boys spent most of their childhood.
I don't think Queen Charlotte would be on the walls of Sandringham either. There are only a couple of portraits of Charlotte as Queen and they are at Windsor. I can't see the boys going round at Windsor pointing at portraits and asking who the subjects were.
It's been said that Charles has regarded his name (a Stuart name) as unlucky and ill-omened. He wouldn't therefore have regarded the naming of a baby as Charles with unalloyed pleasure. I have read that he wished he'd been christened George.
I think that Charles can be a very difficult and rather prickly personality. Because William is semi-reliant on him for income and he is his sole remaining parent my view is that William informed him of his daughter's names but in case Charles should feel that it was a dig at him, told him that he and Kate had chosen a name they really liked (and is Pippa's middle name) and it was Charlotte. This Charles accepted as a compliment to him, which it probably was because of the above reasons.
There are portraits of Queen Charlotte at BP. And then there was the play and film, the Madness of King George, all in the boys lifetime. I don't think William and Harry are intellectuals but I think they heard about their ancestor, who appears in several branches of their genealogies.
Charles could have been a Middle Name for George and no "bad luck."
I don't think the boys are in fear and trembling of Charles, especially since William apparently spends more time with his in-laws.
I think Charles heartily dislikes his name and wouldn't want it for his grandson.
I don't believe Charles spends much time with his grandchildren at all nor does William spend that much time with him. Charles's children aren't in fear and trembling of him and get on with him to a certain extent.
However, I do think there's a certain amount of catering to their father's moods and wishes that both sons do, even today, as they are semi-reliant on generous yearly allowances from him. Earlier, for public consumption anyway, they accepted Camilla because of their father's wishes, whatever their private feelings.
We will just have to agree to disagree about the source Princess Charlotte's name(s) as I keep to my view that those names were a complement of her paternal grandparents, a liking for the name from both parents and maybe a nod to Pippa as well, rather than a trawl back to the late 18th century and a Queen neither Kate nor William have ever expressed any interest in.
I hardly think Charles is such a meanie that he wodl be annoyed at the name Diana being used.. and clearly Will and K did't want to have a logn string of names and stuck to 3 for each child. (and I'm sure htat Will loves his father and is hardly going to feel that he does not want to use his name for one of the grandchildren.. ).
with George, clearly George was the name that was for him to be called by, a trad royal name.. (and oene of C's names too). Alexander is for the queen and Louis is one of Wil's names.
with Charltote, again Charlotte is a ncie name and a royal one.. and it honours Charles (nad Is Philippa's middle name) Eliz is for the queen and is Kate's middle name and Diana is for Diana.
I imagine that if Charles was one of georges names people would say it was for Charles II...
With the spin "moving on" by sympathizers/writers/relatives of Charles I think there would be some ruffled feathers of the baby having a middle name Diana. And there seemed to be fear in some circles or emotions of the baby being named Diana.
I don't think people would have cared if George were called Charles. Some just ignore historical events/people like Charles II.
Quote from: sandy on April 12, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
With the spin "moving on" by sympathizers/writers/relatives of Charles I think there would be some ruffled feathers of the baby having a middle name Diana. And there seemed to be fear in some circles or emotions of the baby being named Diana.
I don't think people would have cared if George were called Charles. Some just ignore historical events/people like Charles II.
noboby was going to be bothered by the baby being called Diana. It was expected that that would be among her names. Just as no one wold be bothered if George had had Charles amongh his names
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Quote from: Curryong on April 12, 2017, 02:36:15 AM
Charlotte is the feminine of the name Charles.
I doubt very much that portraits of Queen Charlotte would have been hanging on the walls of Highgrove or the London apartment of Diana at KP, which is where the two boys spent most of their childhood.
I don't think Queen Charlotte would be on the walls of Sandringham either. There are only a couple of portraits of Charlotte as Queen and they are at Windsor. I can't see the boys going round at Windsor pointing at portraits and asking who the subjects were.
It's been said that Charles has regarded his name (a Stuart name) as unlucky and ill-omened. He wouldn't therefore have regarded the naming of a baby as Charles with unalloyed pleasure. I have read that he wished he'd been christened George.
I
never read any of this. I would have expected a romantic reactioinary type like Charles to be fond of the Stuarts and to like the name Charles,... FWIW I think that the Cambs should have givn George another Xtan name and stuck In iehter Charles or Michael for Kate's father.. But I suppose as they were likelty to have 2 kids, the second one could have Charles or charlotte as one of the names..
Well I looked at some boards before the second child was born and there were people who did not want the second to be a girl because she might have Diana in her name. I'm serious about this. I could not believe this was going on.
Sadny, I believe you but I'm rather surprised. However I meant that in general the RF and people in general who know about royals would have expected Di's first Granddagther to have Diana as one of her names.. and I'm sure that Charles wuodl have expected it
I know there were people on discussion boards wo said it wouldn't be a good idea to give a daughter the name Diana as her "chosen name", which I think is a fair point. I think it would be a lot of "burden" on a new litlte girl to be "Princess Diana of cambridge" when Di was such a beautiful and iconic figure. But I don't believe that Wil and K would have ever chosen Di as a first name.
Charlotte is the feminine of the name Charles.
Yes it is a
@Curryong and considering that it is a traditional name with a royal history and it's her maternal aunt's middle name, I'm not surprised to see that it was used by the couple.
Princess Maud of Wales, future Queen Consort of Norway, was Maud Charlotte Mary Victoria.
Quote from: TLLK on April 15, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Charlotte is the feminine of the name Charles.
Yes it is a@Curryong and considering that it is a traditional name with a royal history and it's her maternal aunt's middle name, I'm not surprised to see that it was used by the couple.
True, I certainly don't thnk that Will and Kate are that well versed in history, even royal history that they would know all the Royla charlottes of the past. However they probably have a rough idea that there was a queen Charlotte, and it is of course a nod to the baby's grandfather.
I don't think Will is that ignorant about his ancestors. There was even a play and film featuring Queen Charlotte. He certainly would be aware of that if nothing else. He has about three lines of Queen Charlotte in his ancestry. He is not stupid.
He's not too biright either. And I doubt if he's watched the Madness of King George..
He might have he did go to University which seems to be fussed over by the media.
What has going to Univeristy got to do with seeing a rather dull film?
^^^I wouldn't be surprised if it was shown to William and his classmates during a history class while they were at Eton as the film is now 23 years old. William also had the benefit of QEII acting as his own "private tutor" during his Eton years. She has been credited with teaching him about the role of the monarch which likely included information about the monarchs of England, Scotland and later the United Kingdom.
Quote from: amabel on April 16, 2017, 06:10:35 PM
What has going to Univeristy got to do with seeing a rather dull film?
Everything. It is a counter to those who don't think the boys heard about their own ancestor. The film was a showcase for the actors who played the leads.
what does that mean, it was a showcase for the actors who played the leads??? Yes I suppose you could say that abut any film. Gone wit the Wind was a showcase for Clark Gable and Viveine Leigh.
What has the film go to do with anyitng? They may have seen it, they may not. It has nothing to do with their going to University . Harry didn't go to University.. he barely got through school..
Frankly I doubt if they took much notice of anything as far back as George III.
I'd say Harry is more likely to watch "The Tudors" than some pretentious stuff by Alan Bennet.
I don't know what the film has to do with anything. Its one of thousands of films, and I have no idea whether they saw it, but whether they did or not, they SHOULD know their Georges and Edwards without the aid of films but I doubt if they did. Just like i'd say they don't know that much about their Spencer ancestors.
Neither of them is esp clever but Harry is much less academically inclined than his brother
I believe that William and Catherine selected their daughter's first name to compliment their son's first name of George. George III and Charlotte had been the King and Queen Consort of Great Britain.
Princess Charlotte is the Queen's Mini-Me - PureWow (https://www.purewow.com/news/princess-charlotte-queen-elizabeth-resemblance?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=Princess+Charlotte+Bears+Uncanny+Resemblance+to+Another+Royal&utm_term=00bb2c7e67e35b2656d0b579853b235302)
Realize that this is a much debated topic, but IMO Charlotte has QEII's face shape but with Carole's eyes. Her current hair color could be from both sides as there are auburn haired family members throughout the Windsors, Middletons, Goldsmiths. (Taking into account that children can darken or even lighten throughout childhood and into teen years.)
she's a cross between carole and pippa IMO
Quote from: TLLK on September 23, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
Princess Charlotte is the Queen's Mini-Me - PureWow (https://www.purewow.com/news/princess-charlotte-queen-elizabeth-resemblance?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=Princess+Charlotte+Bears+Uncanny+Resemblance+to+Another+Royal&utm_term=00bb2c7e67e35b2656d0b579853b235302)
Realize that this is a much debated topic, but IMO Charlotte has QEII's face shape but with Carole's eyes. Her current hair color could be from both sides as there are auburn haired family members throughout the Windsors, Middletons, Goldsmiths. (Taking into account that children can darken or even lighten throughout childhood and into teen years.)
I think she's VERY like the queen but darker, which she probably gets from her brunette mother.
I see her looking like Pippa, Kate and Carole. I don't see much resemblance to the Queen. She's one of several great grandparents.
Quote from: amabel on September 28, 2017, 09:29:48 PM
I think she's VERY like the queen but darker, which she probably gets from her brunette mother.
Yes I agree that it is the hair color and IMO her eye shape that is different from her great grandmother.
The one that closely resembles the Queen is Lady Louise.
Princess Charlotte and Queen so similar ?they could be same person' - high-tech analysis | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1036848/princess-charlotte-queen-elizabeth-similar-photos-same-person-analysis-royal)
QuoteThe close likeness has been remarked upon on a number of occasions since Charlotte was born.
And the analysis, carried out by Hassan Ugail, Professor of Visual Computing at the University of Bradford at the request of Express.co.uk, proved it was not just wishful thinking on the part of Royal watchers.
Professor Ugail uses cutting-edges techniques to examine images in minute detail, and put his skills to work comparing shots of four-year-old Charlotte and a young Princess Elizabeth at roughly the same age. He said: ?They are indeed strikingly similar.
Usually, if a comparison between two images return 70 percent or higher we consider it to be the same person.
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?In this sense, I feel some existing facial recognition systems may even fail to distinguish between the two, given the corresponding images are fed as input for comparison.?
He looked at three pictures of the Queen set alongside two of Charlotte, with one having a similarity index of 68.2 per cent, while the others were 63.7 percent and 62.2 percent respectively.
While there are obvious differences in the hair color of QEII and Princess Charlotte at an early age, the facial similarities are striking IMO. :Jen:
I've never been able to see it. While Charlotte is full of personality IMO she isn't a pretty child. It's all right, some kids aren't. Not everyone can be a raving beauty. Elizabeth, on the other hand, was a very pretty little girl.
Did these scientists get hold of photos of Carole Middleton and her mother Dorothy as children and compare them with Char? Tiny eyes, sharp features. Charlotte resembles the Middletons far more than she favours the Windsors.
There seems to be a clique wanting this so badly. I see a lot of Middleton features in Charlotte and she looks like her grandma Carole. It seems to be a fantasy for some that somehow magically all the other genes disappear and she's a clone of the Queen. The Queen was blonde as a child and had wavy hair. Charlotte's eyes are like Carole's and she is a Middleton in features. I don't think any of Kate's children are especially gifted in the looks department.
Quote from: Curryong on October 29, 2018, 09:23:43 AM
I've never been able to see it. While Charlotte is full of personality IMO she isn't a pretty child. It's all right, some kids aren't. Not everyone can be a raving beauty. Elizabeth, on the other hand, was a very pretty little girl.
Did these scientists get hold of photos of Carole Middleton and her mother Dorothy as children and compare them with Char? Tiny eyes, sharp features. Charlotte resembles the Middletons far more than she favours the Windsors.
They may have but then the headline and article would be less likely to earn clicks. :D From what I can tell the photo analysis seems to focus upon the bone structure of their faces, but with children this is going to be trickier than with adults IMO due to the fact that they're still growing. We'll just have to wait and see over the coming years.
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QuoteThere seems to be a clique wanting this so badly.
Which in turn is matched by a "clique wanting this
not to be true so badly." :hehe: IMO it is far to early to predict who Charlotte will take after because of the changes her face will undergo in the coming years. In the end I believe that she'll be like most human beings on the planet- a mixture of both her maternal and paternal family. :)
More so with her wanting to be "just like the Queen" even when she was an infant.
I think the analysis is a waste of time. The Queen did not get herself cloned. It is disrespectful IMO to other branches of the family who contributed DNA.
I think she definitely looks like the queen who was NOT a "pretty little girl"..
QuoteI think the analysis is a waste of time.
I agree
@sandy but the tabloid who paid for the analysis knows that these stories are their bread and butter. :D Wouldn't be surprised if there will be more of these stories in the future.
Quote from: amabel on October 29, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
I think she definitely looks like the queen who was NOT a "pretty little girl"..
Some considered Elizabeth beautiful with her wavy blonde hair and blue eyes. I see MIddleton looks coming out more in Charlotte as she gets older.
I don't buy into her looking
just like only one of the great grandparents.
She looks more like the queen than anyone.. but she is darker, which she probably gets from kate.
Have you ever seen photos of Carole and Dorothy (Goldsmith) when young? Since when did Charlotte's rather small elongated brown/hazel eyes resemble Queen Elizabeth's large blue ones? The shape of the face is also different. Like the Middletons, Charlotte has thin lips. George's rather pudgy nose is pure (Michael) Middleton, as well. I think it's more likely that William and Kate's child(ren) resemble their maternal side as in grandmother, especially if they have strong genetics, than a paternal great-grandmother.
I don't get why this analysis was even done. Why not do it with Charlotte and Carole. Then this Queen resemblance insistence will end except for some who seem to want it to be so much. It is soap opera stuff to have a descendant look "just like" a great grandmother.
Quote from: amabel on October 30, 2018, 06:00:05 AM
She looks more like the queen than anyone.. but she is darker, which she probably gets from kate.
I totally disagree. Lady Louise is the one who looks more like the Queen than anyone IMO. Charlotte is a Middleton in looks.
Some photos of the Queen as a small child. I think she was a lovely toddler.
Queen Elizabeth II - Person - National Portrait Gallery (https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp01454/queen-elizabeth-ii)
Charlotte since birth. If she looks like the above then I'm a dutchman!
https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/1201512029637/princess-charlotte-every-photo-little-royal/1/
@Curryong-Just in case..."I am a Dutchman."="Ik ben een Nederlander." :hehe:
Or you can use this phrase should King W-A and Queen Maxima come to Australia soon. :D
Yes, it's an old English expression. Loved visiting the Netherlands, quite a lot of people in my native Norfolk do. It's a county that has long been influenced by Dutch architecture etc. Love Maxie. I hope we see a lot of her.
I saw Kitty Spencer's throwback picture, they look so much alike, her Instagram just went BOOM. :lol:
Quote
Article
Princess Diana's niece Lady Kitty, 29, is dubbed Princess Charlotte's 'twin' in a throwback childhood snap as royal fans go wild over the strong Spencer family resemblance
By Jessica Green For Mailonline - December 30th 2019, 3:49:46 pm
London-born Lady Kitty Spencer, who turned 29 two days ago, posted a photograph of her younger self enjoying a Barbie-themed party to her Instagram page yesterday.
I actually thought, when I first saw that photo of Kitty Spencer, 'Oh that's a photo of Charlotte'. Her hair was styled in the way Charlotte has it as well. It is indeed remarkable how family genes repeat. Of course Kitty's features have certainly changed over the years, so what Charlotte will look like as an adult, who knows. I've always thought she resembled Carole Middleton as a child more than anyone, but this adds a new component.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/30/15/22764276-7837395-In_the_sweet_picture_a_much_younger_Kitty_plays_with_toys_and_ea-m-26_1577718082156.jpg
I really dont see any likeness to little Kitty.
IMO Charlotte has always looked like carole and pippa but at this sandringham walk she's really looking like kate.
Kitty looks extremely artificial these days, pretty but plastic...
Both princess Charlotte and prince William have Diana's eyes, IMO.
Charlotte also looks a little bit like her uncle James and so does prince George.
I've noticed that both PC and PG have Prince Charles' ears.
can't see any resemblance between Charlote and Diana. She is much darker..
Charlotte has Carole's eyes. William have the big spencer eyes. charles spencer children (kitty, her sisters and brother) also have those spencer eyes. i dont see anything spencer or windsor in William's children. Like Mark Philips his genes arent strong!
Quote from: amabel on December 30, 2019, 09:54:52 PM
can't see any resemblance between Charlote and Diana. She is much darker..
Diana had lightened her hair, it was actually a dark reddish brown. I see some resemblance around the eyes.
I see a certain expression in the photo that reminds me of Charlotte. The princes are clearly taking after the Middletons, but I am not sure who Charlotte resembles. One thing is for sure...she is tall!
I see a lot of Carole/Pippa/Kate in CHarlotte. CHarlotte is still only 4 her full adult growth height is yet to be known.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 03, 2020, 03:53:29 PM
I see a certain expression in the photo that reminds me of Charlotte. The princes are clearly taking after the Middletons, but I am not sure who Charlotte resembles. One thing is for sure...she is tall!
Lady Sarah Chatto nee Armstrong-Jones and Princess Charlotte share a resemblance IMHO however I do believe that Charlotte will be taller than Lady Sarah. :Jen:
I hope she does not look like Sarah, who looks like her father more than her mother. she has a different jawline and mouth feature than Charlotte. It's hard to say how tall any of them will turn out when they are still small IMO.
why does it matter if she looks like Sarah Chatto?
I think Charlotte should look like herself not someone else's clone. She is not the daughter of Margaret and Anthony Armstrong Jones so she can't look just like Sarah.
If she resembles Lady Sarah.. or the queen or whoever then that's a fact and it can't be changed. She may well look like Sarah chatto and it does not mater whose daughter she is...
Quote from: amabel on January 04, 2020, 12:57:18 PM
If she resembles Lady Sarah.. or the queen or whoever then that's a fact and it can't be changed. She may well look like Sarah chatto and it does not mater whose daughter she is...
It would be a bit strange. Sarah's looks were very much her father's (Tony Armstrong Jones's,) that discinctive upturned nose, long upper lip and so on. While that is very natural in the case of Lady Sarah Charlotte has nothing at all to do with the Armstrong Jones family.
Quote from: amabel on January 04, 2020, 12:57:18 PM
If she resembles Lady Sarah.. or the queen or whoever then that's a fact and it can't be changed. She may well look like Sarah chatto and it does not mater whose daughter she is...
She has Spencer blood and Middleton . I see a resemblance to her mother and her family. I don't get why she must look totally of royal blood and must look like royals. Genetics do not work that way.
I see no resemblance to Sarah, who has different eye set and jaw and CHarlotte's not related to Antony Armstrong Jones whose DNA seems to prevail in Sarah's features.
Quote from: amabel on January 04, 2020, 12:57:18 PM
If she resembles Lady Sarah.. or the queen or whoever then that's a fact and it can't be changed. She may well look like Sarah chatto and it does not mater whose daughter she is...
IMO she currently has some similarities to Carole Middleton, Lady Sarah, and QEII, but she's still a child and will continue to change for awhile.
Quote from: sandy on January 04, 2020, 01:08:57 PM
She has Spencer blood and Middleton . I see a resemblance to her mother and her family. I don't get why she must look totally of royal blood and must look like royals. Genetics do not work that way.
I see no resemblance to Sarah, who has different eye set and jaw and CHarlotte's not related to Antony Armstrong Jones whose DNA seems to prevail in Sarah's features.
I don't know what you mean. If she looks LIke Sarah Chatto, (news to me that SHE is royal) or Laurel and Hardy.. thats' who she looks like. If She is a throwback to George III then she'll look like him. Oen can't say that she "shold not look like X" if that's who she does resemble...
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Quote from: TLLK on January 04, 2020, 01:17:58 PM
IMO she currently has some similarities to Carole Middleton, Lady Sarah, and QEII, but she's still a child and will continue to change for awhile.
I think she looked a bit like the queen. Now I think there si a bit more resembalnce to the Middletons? but as you say, shes only a little one and her looks will likely change...
Charlotte like her brothers is pure Middleton. She's been always very much like Carole and Pippa but now is starting to look like Kate
When George and Charlotte stand together they look alike, they both have the MIddleton features.
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Quote from: amabel on January 04, 2020, 02:19:49 PM
I don't know what you mean. If she looks LIke Sarah Chatto, (news to me that SHE is royal) or Laurel and Hardy.. thats' who she looks like. If She is a throwback to George III then she'll look like him. Oen can't say that she "shold not look like X" if that's who she does resemble...
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I think she looked a bit like the queen. Now I think there si a bit more resembalnce to the Middletons? but as you say, shes only a little one and her looks will likely change...
I don't think there was ever a resemblance to the Queen. Nor Sarah Chatto. I think that is fortunate. Sarah Chatto did not inherit her mother's looks but is an Armstrong Jones.
Some say she looks like the QUeen as she is Now, age 93 which is not flattering to Charlotte IMO.
Quote from: Curryong on January 04, 2020, 01:05:04 PM
It would be a bit strange. Sarah's looks were very much her father's (Tony Armstrong Jones's,) that discinctive upturned nose, long upper lip and so on. While that is very natural in the case of Lady Sarah Charlotte has nothing at all to do with the Armstrong Jones family.
She may well look lke Sarah Chatto.. I think she did, at one stage. At present she is growing taller and doesn't look much like anyone. People look like people that they are not related to. If that happens there's no point saying that they should not resemble X or Y...
She should look like herself.
Quote from: sandy on January 05, 2020, 01:56:45 PM
She should look like herself.
she does. Sh is still herself even if she resembles other people to some extent. Whats the point of say she SHOULD look like something if she does not. If she resemebles Prince Charles, then that's who she resembles no matter if she "should" look like Kate.
Quote from: amabel on January 05, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
She may well look lke Sarah Chatto.. I think she did, at one stage. At present she is growing taller and doesn't look much like anyone. People look like people that they are not related to. If that happens there's no point saying that they should not resemble X or Y...
Exactly. :nod:
Quote from: amabel on January 05, 2020, 02:05:33 PM
she does. Sh is still herself even if she resembles other people to some extent. Whats the point of say she SHOULD look like something if she does not. If she resemebles Prince Charles, then that's who she resembles no matter if she "should" look like Kate.
Any human being should look like himself or herself.
However it's not surprising that since we have our parents' DNA that we can see a resemblance to other family members.
Quote from: TLLK on January 06, 2020, 12:59:43 AM
However it's not surprising that since we have our parents' DNA that we can see a resemblance to other family members.
Yes, I agree. And sometimes resemblances jump generations. I often see a resemblance in the POW's profile to his grandfather's profile. In fact, it's quite striking.
Quote from: sandy on January 05, 2020, 11:16:41 PM
Any human being should look like himself or herself.
what does that mean? People are themselves.. they may resemble other people quite closely but they are still themselves. Identical twins look very much like each other, but they are still tehmselves
A few months ago there was a thread in which someone suggested that Charlotte looks a bit like Lady Sarah. Usually I think Charlotte looks like her mother's side, but I was watching a documentary in which there was a photo of Margaret's children when they were fairly young. Sarah looked to be about 7. They were seated on some steps and Sarah was looking off to her left.....the resemblance to photo's I've seen of Charlotte was uncanny. So, apologies to the person who suggested there was a resemblance, with which I disagreed. There is at least one pose where she does indeed look like Lady Sarah Chatto!
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on February 10, 2020, 03:03:33 AM
A few months ago there was a thread in which someone suggested that Charlotte looks a bit like Lady Sarah. Usually I think Charlotte looks like her mother's side, but I was watching a documentary in which there was a photo of Margaret's children when they were fairly young. Sarah looked to be about 7. They were seated on some steps and Sarah was looking off to her left.....the resemblance to photo's I've seen of Charlotte was uncanny. So, apologies to the person who suggested there was a resemblance, with which I disagreed. There is at least one pose where she does indeed look like Lady Sarah Chatto!
Children change a lot and sometimes there will show up a strong resemblance to some relative.. that fades away later. I tink that Charlotte looked a bit like the queen as a little girl but darker, which she got from Kate's side. Now she's kind of not like anyone in parituclar.
There are pics of William where you can see Diana's looks very strongly but later he has become more like his father's side of the family...
Charlotte's looks changed as she gets older although I never saw any resemblance to Sarah. Sarah is more of an Armstrong Jones in features, Charlotte has no Armstrong Jones DNA. Charlotte has looked like her grandmother Carole IMO. I never saw a resemblance to the Queen, she is only one of several great grandparents and Charlotte has a lot of other DNA. Charlotte looks like herself. I see a lot of Spencer features in William but when he mugs he looks like Charles.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on February 10, 2020, 03:03:33 AM
A few months ago there was a thread in which someone suggested that Charlotte looks a bit like Lady Sarah. Usually I think Charlotte looks like her mother's side, but I was watching a documentary in which there was a photo of Margaret's children when they were fairly young. Sarah looked to be about 7. They were seated on some steps and Sarah was looking off to her left.....the resemblance to photo's I've seen of Charlotte was uncanny. So, apologies to the person who suggested there was a resemblance, with which I disagreed. There is at least one pose where she does indeed look like Lady Sarah Chatto!
Yes it is startling to see the resemblance between the two at that age.
Sarah has a different chin than Charlotte. I hope Charlotte looks like herself. I see a lot of Middleton in her though. She does not have to look like a royal, she can take after her mother's side of the family.
Quote from: sandy on February 10, 2020, 02:25:38 PM
Sarah has a different chin than Charlotte. I hope Charlotte looks like herself. I see a lot of Middleton in her though. She does not have to look like a royal, she can take after her mother's side of the family.
Yes, of course she looks like herself...we are all individuals and even identical twins have their differences in looks. But there will be times, as Queen Alex said, that an expression we have will look like that same expression in a relative. And the Mountbatten-Windsor genes are very strong because there were so many cousins marrying cousins in their heritage, and as we know, the Queen and the DofE are related. Sarah and Charlotte both share those genes. I do agree that Charlotte looks mostly like the Middletons as a rule. Anyway, if I ever see this photo again I will post it, because it is so striking.
Why will she not look like a royal, when she is Royal.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on February 11, 2020, 12:42:31 AM
Yes, of course she looks like herself...we are all individuals and even identical twins have their differences in looks. But there will be times, as Queen Alex said, that an expression we have will look like that same expression in a relative. And the Mountbatten-Windsor genes are very strong because there were so many cousins marrying cousins in their heritage, and as we know, the Queen and the DofE are related. Sarah and Charlotte both share those genes. I do agree that Charlotte looks mostly like the Middletons as a rule. Anyway, if I ever see this photo again I will post it, because it is so striking.
:thumbsup:
Yes it is very striking and the M-W genes have definitely left their imprint on the family members.
The recent generations did not marry cousins, so there is some new DNA introduced. Which is a good thing, so they won't necessarily have to look like Windsors. The Middleton Genes seem very strong as I see photos of the children. James Middleton and his nephew Louis have striking resemblances to one another, for instance. William and Harry have Spencer blood but also Windsor-Mountbatten in combination. I think Charlotte will look like Carole Middleton. Antony Armstrong Jones features are quite prominent in all his children including the ones from his other relationships. Sara grew up looking like him not her mother.
Tonight I will be searching for that documentary again so others can see. I am not trying to say that Charlotte looks like her cousin. We all share genetic material from both sides of our families, and similarities pop up from time to time.
Quote from: wannable on February 11, 2020, 02:01:13 AM
Why will she not look like a royal, when she is Royal.
Princess Charlotte will definitely look like a royal when she is a Royal. Her father is Prince William. His father is Prince Charles, whose parents are Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.
Has anyone compared Princess Charlotte's looks to her Spencer great-grandmother Frances Roche Spencer Shand Kydd?
Having mentioned Anne, Princess Royal, and the last of a dying breed.
I'd love to see Princess Charlotte go to the military (considering that her parents allegedly are prepping C and L for private careers) enabling the possibility of the pomp and ceremony use of UK military divisions, time will tell what her character is. For now, it's a nope IMO really, girly girl personality.
Quote from: wannable on November 14, 2021, 04:17:13 PM
Having mentioned Anne, Princess Royal, and the last of a dying breed.
I'd love to see Princess Charlotte go to the military (considering that her parents allegedly are prepping C and L for private careers) enabling the possibility of the pomp and ceremony use of UK military divisions, time will tell what her character is. For now, it's a nope IMO really, girly girl personality.
Although, she does seem to be very outdoorsey and physical, too.
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Royal fans go wild over Princess Charlotte's VERY striking resemblance to Prince William | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10774321/Royal-fans-wild-Princess-Charlottes-striking-resemblance-Prince-William.html)
Princess Charlotte poses with Spaniel gifted from James Middleton as she celebrates turning seven | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10774319/Princess-Charlotte-poses-Spaniel-gifted-James-Middleton-celebrates-turning-seven.html)
Princess Charlotte Looks Just Like Dad Prince William in New Photo for Her 7th Birthday | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/princess-charlotte-looks-just-like-dad-prince-william-in-new-photo-for-her-7th-birthday/)
Kate Middleton and Prince William's Dog's Name Revealed | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/kate-middleton-prince-william-dog-name-revealed-orla/)
Princess Charlotte looks adorable in ?19 high-street top for seventh birthday photos | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/royal-style/20220502139211/princess-charlotte-birthday-photos-wearing-next-top/)
Prince Charles and Duchess Camilla share sweet birthday tribute to Princess Charlotte | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220502139217/prince-charles-and-duchess-camilla-sweet-tribute-princess-charlote/)
Queen wishes 'mini Elizabeth' Princess Charlotte a Happy 7th Birthday with new picture | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1604043/Queen-Princess-Charlotte-7th-birthday-message-new-picture-Norfolk)
Princess Charlotte and Queen: Photos of the royal doppelgangers from birth to age 7 | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1603202/princess-charlotte-queen-photos-comparisons-royal-doppelgangers-evg)
Kate Middleton and Prince William's dog's name shared with Charlotte's birthday photos | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1604000/kate-middleton-prince-william-dog-picture-name-princess-charlotte-birthday-photographs)
Kate Middleton congratulated for setting perfect scene in Charlotte's new birthday pics | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1604082/Kate-Middleton-princess-charlotte-new-birthday-pictures-duchess-cambridge-pics-latest)
The best pictures of Princess Charlotte as she celebrates 7th birthday today | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1602683/princess-charlotte-pictures-photos-birthday-today-evg)
Princess Charlotte's adorable resemblance to other royals - including young Queen - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/princess-charlottes-adorable-resemblance-royals-26848234)
Princess Charlotte smiles with family pup Orla in seventh birthday snaps ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/princess-charlotte-smiles-with-family-pup-orla-in-seventh-birthday-snaps-175877/)
The regal meaning behind the name of Princess Charlotte?s beloved pet ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-regal-meaning-behind-the-name-of-princess-charlottes-beloved-pet-175902/)
The blue of the bluebells was a perfect match with the blue of Princess Charlotte's sweater.
Look how she folds her hands like William
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZKMWoPWYAMiuBM?format=jpg&name=small)
Charlotte is so cute and the image of her dad.....early in her life she made herself known and the strong woman she would become....she will be a joy to watch in time and I see her strength of character to be like Anne. There is some very strong women in this royal family...and they are needed.
My prediction, and I may be wrong but I don?t think so, is that both Charlotte and Louis will go into private life and careers. There was an inordinate fuss made a few months ago by commentators in the media about Lady Louise (Wessex) being so perfect for the royal round da de dah. Hardly surprisingly neither she nor her parents seem to agree. She is probably going to University either this year or the next. Life in the royal gilded cage is not so attractive any more.
I think Princess Charlotte will be a joy to watch in life at whatever she chose to do be it in the private sector or the royal family. She will always be seen and heard as the great granddaughter of HM, granddaughter of Charles, daughter of William and sister of a king George in life. She has shown she is intelligent and stands up for what she believes in at such a young age.....taking lessons from family members she has been around and listens to private conversations.....oh to be a fly on the wall and that is just how she is learning...a tiny little girl learning at the feet of her family without them probably knowing it at first....LOL
I think she will be a senior working royal, the Princess Royal. Factor in the aging of humans, by the time she's 25 having graduated from University, the scenario will likely be her King and Queen parents, her POW brother, that's it.
Add +20 to every senior working royal to date...parents 60, Wessexes 70, grandparents 90, the great aunt 90.
I definitely think she'll be a working royal. She won't leave it all to George.
Since she has shown herself at a young age to be confident, intelligent and knowing her own mind, it is possible that she may discover some career for which she has a great passion. If so, I'm sure her parents and brothers would not be critical of her wanting to follow her dreams rather than become a working royal. However, I agree that she would make a wonderful working royal if she continues to develop the way she has.
^ Yes.
The British Monarchy can by then transition to be like the mainland European Monarchies, which really don't have huge committments like the British senior working royals to date.
Everything is solvable.
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I think she will be a senior working royal, the Princess Royal. Factor in the aging of humans, by the time she's 25 having graduated from University, the scenario will likely be her King and Queen parents, her POW brother, that's it.
Add +20 to every senior working royal to date...parents 60, Wessexes 70, grandparents 90, the great aunt 90.
Charlotte can and probably will be Princess Royal, a few years after Anne?s death, but Anne has to die first. And to be Princess Royal doesn?t mean that you have to be a working royal at all. In fact the majority in the past haven?t been.
Other monarchies manage very well with just the monarch and spouse, heir and spouse. As for other commitments it?s extremely doubtful, the way things are going, that senior British royals will be undertaking long tours of the Commonwealth by the time Charlotte is in her mid-twenties. We don?t even know if Scotland and NI are likely to still be in the UK.
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I definitely think she'll be a working royal. She won't leave it all to George.
LOL.......And she will probably be bossing George around telling him what to do at events, I think Charlotte is a strong minded young girl now who will be a force to reckon with as she gets older.
I believe that we'll see more European monarchies adopting what I've considered the Dutch "Beatrix and Claus method" of preparing your younger children for a life that includes a career while retaining some participation in royal duties and having some patronages. IMO the Cambridges would be wise to follow this path which seems to have worked very well for The Netherlands. It should be noted though that the Dutch Constitution automatically limits the number of members in the Royal House much like the Spanish constitution does.
If the United Kingdom "shrinks" and fewer Commonwealth nations retain the British monarch, then there isn't a need for as many members of the BRF to be involved with royal duties.
Very likely Princess Charlotte's first (royal) fine jewelry
A horseshoe brooch with diamonds on her mourning coat, which was a gift from her great-grandmother the Queen
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/19/14/62564841-11226497-Princess_Charlotte_is_seen_adjusting_her_hat_the_youngster_wore_-m-7_1663594897297.jpg)
Look at her. Boss strikes again. Anne the 3 rd after Anne, TPR and Zara.
Boss Babby Charlotte does not play and she knows. LOL! SHE KNOWS. She just knows.
Report said BossBaby told her brother to bow. When to bow..
Princess Charlotte spotted telling Prince George to bow as Queen's coffin went past | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11227533/Princess-Charlotte-tells-older-brother-Prince-George-bow-Queens-coffin.html#comments)
Princess Charlotte's outfit was lovely.
BREAKING: Princess Charlotte 'to be Duchess of Edinburgh': King Charles isn't giving Duke title to brother Edward 'as he wants to keep it for his granddaughter in tribute to The Queen' - who also held it - and to 'honour the line of succession'
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As the Prince of Wales's second child, Charlotte is third in line to the throne, after her father Prince William and brother Prince George.
When the Princess of Wales was expecting her first child, the rules of Royal primogeniture were changed to allow a girl born to the couple the same rights as a boy.
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Charlotte's position as the second child of the heir to the throne is similar to that of Princess Anne, the Princess Royal, who was the second child of Prince Philip and the then Princess Elizabeth.
But unlike Anne she will not drop down the order of succession until her older brother George has children. When William becomes King, George will become Duke of Cornwall and then Prince of Wales but not Duke of Edinburgh.
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'Charlotte's position is historically significant because she is the first female member of the Royal Family whose place in the line of succession will not be surpassed by her younger brother.
'So it is constitutionally significant that Charlotte should be given such a corresponding title, because it is not beyond the realms of possibility that she will accede the throne if, for example, Prince George does not have children.'
Wooh, where did you read this?
Woops, front page top news, Daily Mail
King Charles is saving the Edinburgh title for Princess Charlotte | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11472909/King-Charles-saving-Edinburgh-title-Princess-Charlotte.html)
It?s the Sunday Fail, and no official statement. ?A source said? and ?it is expected??. Well, of course if it?s expected by the Fail then it?s bound to happen, lol.
And Charlotte is of course forty odd years younger than Edward. If that happens (and I can almost guarantee that it won?t) then Peerage rules will have to be altered (and the late Queen was only Duchess of E by courtesy, due to PP, her husband, holding the title and that was only for a brief number of years. She didn?t hold it in her own right.)
Good luck in explaining that train of thought in a possibly independent Scotland in future decades! Also Charlotte is in line to hold a much more prestigious and ancient title, that of Princess Royal, after Princess Anne dies.
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I'll very likely be alive when Charlotte is 18.
I think and hope that the future of the Edinburgh title will be made clear by a short statement from the Palace long before Charlotte is eighteen. Perhaps before the Coronation next year. The speculation in the media and by commentators, journalists etc is getting ridiculous.
^It is. I was actually quite surprised and a bit stunned to see that article front page, top news.
I must admit that perusing throught the articles of the ''assistant to the editor' of MOS, I recall most of their ''future'' articles happened on a later date within the BRF. i.e. George and Charlotte attending the funeral, the assistant to the editor in chief wrote it 72 hours and it happened.
So let's see, but I agree with you, I hope BP makes a statement sooner rather than later. It's becoming a weekly follow up article (s) about that Title!
I'm not a fan (only because she's a bit arrogant with several statements about court circulars without even being at the site (s), event, behind the press pen) but here is MKs comment about Charlotte, Peerage, Duchess title dated August 2018
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With the new gender equal succession Royal historian and founder of Royal Musings Marlene Koenig believes Princess Charlotte could get a peerage like her mother, Kate and the Duchess of Cambridge.
She said: ?Now with gender equal succession, I think it would be more possible to grant a peerage to Charlotte. Prince Louis will get one when he marries, so it would only be fair if Charlotte was named a Duchess on her wedding day.
It was speculated amongst most British media that some of the younger generation of the BRF including George and Charlotte could be allowed at the funeral even before the funeral date had been announced. KP staff leaking that sort of thing to the Fail is very different to Charles making up his mind about his parents? wishes and his own regarding a now contentious royal title. Only his very closest aides like his PS would be privy to any deliberations of Charles?s.
Quote from: wannable on November 26, 2022, 11:34:37 PM
I'm not a fan (only because she's a bit arrogant with several statements about court circulars without even being at the site (s), event, behind the press pen) but here is MKs comment about Charlotte, Peerage, Duchess title dated August 2018
I like Marlene, who is very knowledgeable about the history of European Royal Houses. However she wouldn?t know any more about Charles?s thoughts re the Edinburgh title than anyone else. And talk of loosening the rights of daughters in Peers families to inherit titles where there are no brothers and for royal daughters to receive them has been really hotting up over recent years, in the name of equality between the sexes. As it should be.
However changing non royal Peerages hasn?t happened yet. The govt has stayed well clear for several reasons. And I just can?t see Charlotte receiving Edinburgh, sorry. It?s too contentious with large numbers of Scots who put up with it just because PP had received it a long time ago, in the 1940s. Things have changed.
I would only believe her if it was already put out officially by the palace. She has been wrong and mistaken so many times before. I really do not consider her an expert or to have inside info
Rumors.
Charlotte, this?hopefully, another silly rumor.
KC3 needs to mske Ed n Sophie D/ D of Edinburgh
Quote from: Curryong on November 26, 2022, 11:47:48 PM
I like Marlene, who is very knowledgeable about the history of European Royal Houses. However she wouldn?t know any more about Charles?s thoughts re the Edinburgh title than anyone else. And talk of loosening the rights of daughters in Peers families to inherit titles where there are no brothers and for royal daughters to receive them has been really hotting up over recent years, in the name of equality between the sexes. As it should be.
However changing non royal Peerages hasn?t happened yet. The govt has stayed well clear for several reasons. And I just can?t see Charlotte receiving Edinburgh, sorry. It?s too contentious with large numbers of Scots who put up with it just because PP had received it a long time ago, in the 1940s. Things have changed.
What a slap in the face that would be for Edward. I can't believe KCIII would have such awful judgement.
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Who are these people who have jumped onto Google and Twitter to find out, though? Foreigners who don?t know about the history of the Dukedom, don?t know about Philip having been the Duke of Edinburgh? Didn?t know that the Queen was once his Duchess? British people ditto? It comes to something quite laughable yet sad that people anywhere have to go quickly go to Twitter because British tabloids are having a ?Guess who?s going to be the Duke of Edinburgh? week. And Twitter users will have no effect whatsoever on Charles?s decisions on the matter, anyway.
The social media pro monarchy fan bases grew when HMQEII passed away. Weekly there are 3 or 4 days of the 7 that someone in the BRF is trending. This didn't happen before. So when a long time royal watcher tweets something and they have say 10K followers giving it a like/retweet/quote/comment and that replicates and grows, it trends.
I know for example that their is at least 100 royal watcher twitter users that have a very healthy followrs and they tweet a lot. They all were very very active when HMQEII died.
Tech age, social media, especially fast news from Royal Reporters or Royal Watchers like US discuss royalty more in SM then in forums.
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Palace officials say no decisions have been taken yet over the Duke of Edinburgh title but they are certainly not ruling out the idea of Princess Charlotte eventually being made Duchess of Edinburgh (though she will surely become Princess Royal).
Princess Charlotte could become Duchess of Edinburgh in 'fitting' tribute to Queen - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/princess-charlotte-could-become-duchess-28593767)
Remember when Princess Anne died and Princess Charlotte will take Princess Anne?s titles of Princess Royal according to mirror says
QuoteWhen William ascends to the throne, Charlotte could be given the title of The Princess Royal - which Princess Anne has held.
Quote from: sara8150 on November 28, 2022, 04:32:23 PM
Princess Charlotte could become Duchess of Edinburgh in 'fitting' tribute to Queen - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/princess-charlotte-could-become-duchess-28593767)
Remember when Princess Anne died and Princess Charlotte will take Princess Anne?s titles of Princess Royal according to mirror says
It?s not just what a certain tabloid says. There were earlier Princess Royals in the 17th and 18th centuries, but in more modern times every Princess since Vicky, the eldest daughter of Queen Victoria, who is the oldest female child of the monarch but not the heiress to the Throne, has received this honorary title. If the monarchy survives into William?s reign then Charlotte will almost certainly be Princess Royal.
As for Palmer, who like the rest of the pack knows nothing but just reports what aides and lackeys say, of course they aren?t going to rule anything out (AS FAR AS THEY KNOW, whoever THEY might be, and very much I doubt the spokesperson has just been in an in-depth discussion about the subject with King Charles?s Private Sec, lol!
An RR could ask is Prince George likely to become chief elephant trainer in chief at the Regents Park Zoo and they are likely to get the same response. Look at what Charles?s people were saying about Camilla?s possible title right up until the time when the Queen spoke out, and see what I mean.
And whether on forums or not, English or not, everybody discussing the RF doesn?t necessarily know a great deal about them. An incredible amount of rubbish gets around on ALL Twitter accounts.
As for her becoming Duchess of Edinburgh, well, we?ll have to see, but it doesn?t seem likely to me for all the reasons gone into here recently.
King Charles May Give Princess Charlotte a Special Royal Title (https://people.com/royals/king-charles-may-give-princess-charlotte-duchess-edinburgh-title/)
Neil Sean says his sources confirm the title will be for Princess Charlotte.
He goes on stating that this was agreed with Queen, Charles, Edward and Sophie.
WHY THIS SENIOR ROYAL BESTOWED THIS ON WHO - LATEST NEWS #royalfamily #britishroyals #breakingnews - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2PzUtM7FQ)
Quote from: wannable on November 29, 2022, 11:41:04 AM
Neil Sean says his sources confirm the title will be for Princess Charlotte.
He goes on stating that this was agreed with Queen, Charles, Edward and Sophie.
WHY THIS SENIOR ROYAL BESTOWED THIS ON WHO - LATEST NEWS #royalfamily #britishroyals #breakingnews - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2PzUtM7FQ)
Oh well, if Neil Sean says so then everything must be true, then! Lol!
Charles says ?Thanks Edward. You can continue as the Patron of the Duke of Edinburgh awards etc. And you and Sophie with opening fish markets at Grimsby and housing blocks in Hull. You won?t be getting the Dukedom and it?s a slap in the face I know, but don?t worry about it. Just carry on!?
And everybody wonders why Harry left that wonderful royal life if that?s the way a younger brother is treated.
Just ponder this, BRF, if you haven?t already. Charlotte will possibly live for another 90 years. Let?s hope that there is no Scottish independence followed by a republic in Scotland then in another say forty, fifty, sixty years. In which case, with Welsh sensibilities in view as well, George?s children will be bearing all English titles (that is if the English monarchy survives another fifty years!) And Charlotte will almost certainly be the last Duchess of Edinburgh by agreement or the neighbours will be very annoyed!
If she were to get the title on marriage, which is how all of the royal dukedoms have been bestowed lately, (another twenty years perhaps) then her husband, if not a Peer, will remain untitled as will her younger brother Louis. She?s unlikely to get it at 18. And let?s hope Louis doesn?t agitate for a title as an 18 year old!
And if Charlotte doesn?t want the royal round and wants a private life and career, which is more than probable? An employer will introduce her to colleagues at work with ?This is the Princess Royal and Duchess of Edinburgh?. And Charlotte says ?Please don?t curtsey, and call me Char!?
Charlotte is left handed like her dad.
Note in the 1 hour video everyone holding their candle right handed minus William and Charlotte, lefty?s
Catherine and Charlotte - They watched together and went to celebrate with the ballet organization.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1652434620783181825
Watched or Charlotte is IN the play/rehearsals?! Lambrook school play?! Not sure, some are fully dressed costumes, other girls aren't....
Princess Charlotte prefers calling Prince William "Papa".
Why William Calls King 'Pa', but Charlotte Prefers 'Papa' for Her Dad at Coronation Concert - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzqpnIgJLc)
^Yes she does. There are two videos of Charlotte at #TheBigHelpOutCoronation taken by a random (s) at the Scouts. Other than speaking what I'd call a upper class English British accent with 'received pronunciation' in video #1 very chatty to her brother Louis, in video #2 she calls the attention of her father from across the room calling him 'Papa', shows him what she's doing.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1KZPMwXoAEeV0G?format=jpg&name=small)
Princess Charlotte is on the cover of this week's Hello Magazine:
How 'popular' Princess Charlotte is 'so kind and friendly' - exclusive | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/510464/how-princess-charlotte-is-kind-friendly/)