The Sussex Family General Chat Part 3

[wannable]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1658847488634150914

^ The video (as I said) from citizen Alberto Ramos, Twitter user

[HistoryGirl2]

^Thank you as always, wannable. This is one snippet, but if that?s all there was, I?ll have to agree to disagree with them on near catastrophic chase. Not that I think it?s pleasant or polite, but every big celebrity experiences that here in the places like LA/NYC.

That?s one of the things that I worried about when they announced they were moving here and embarking on a career based in promotion. I wondered why they would want to subject themselves to that instead of living a quiet existence elsewhere.

Their choice, of course, but that?s par for the course here for celebrities. You go to a big event here like that in NYC, you?re going to be followed by paparazzi. But they dislike that, and I can commiserate. However, I?m not sure what next? Police escort? Just confused by the desire to embellish something that?s of the norm here.

[wannable]

You are very welcome, the freedom of Information act in the USA, a full NYPD CCTV footage will very likely be released. Some VIP twitter accounts have notified their followers that they've requested it already.  I think it is very important to follow the laws in light of the NYC.GOV rules which were immediately posted under all the US media outlets that had received info from the Sussexes.  It is IMO very clear to me that the Sussexes spokesperson did not do his/her homework in reviewing the ''state'' laws.   

LA is different in reference to speed limit (that was also posted and the amount of CCTV ''areas''), they can't compare with NYC, more like Chicago.

[HistoryGirl2]

^I hope so. Any claim that is made where lives are alleged to be in danger needs to be investigated. It sounds like NYPD did their job and there were no issues, but I would like to see for myself if the police?s perception of the event differs from reality; that?s not uncommon in the US either?

[wannable]

Yes, I'd like too also.  It is also clear to me that the awards place is not Strata A location location, the hotel's front desk had a Hertz car hire, not ideal for royals or ex royals.

When one sees google map with terrain, layers 'street viewing' IOW full display enabling the 3D too, for example the location of the Metropolitan Museum of Art (The MET) is A++, the location of last night's gong, C- for any high profile public person.

[HistoryGirl2]

^Yeah, I?m sure it?s not often visited by a royal prince lol

Smarter minds than me can likely figure it out, but I also wonder about the taxi. Not the best option if you?re trying to avoid having your picture taken. And Harry phone recording? Just a very strange situation.

[TLLK]

You are very welcome, the freedom of Information act in the USA, a full NYPD CCTV footage will very likely be released. Some VIP twitter accounts have notified their followers that they've requested it already.  I think it is very important to follow the laws in light of the NYC.GOV rules which were immediately posted under all the US media outlets that had received info from the Sussexes.  It is IMO very clear to me that the Sussexes spokesperson did not do his/her homework in reviewing the ''state'' laws.   

LA is different in reference to speed limit (that was also posted and the amount of CCTV ''areas''), they can't compare with NYC, more like Chicago.

I especially agree with the bolded. NYC, Chicago, and even London are much older cities when compared to Los Angeles' roadways which were more or less made for the automobile.

[TLLK]

^Yeah, I?m sure it?s not often visited by a royal prince lol

Smarter minds than me can likely figure it out, but I also wonder about the taxi. Not the best option if you?re trying to avoid having your picture taken.

Yes I am surprised that they'd switched from the SUVs to taxis? Whenever they've been in NYC in the past, I believe that they've only used the SUVs for their transportation.

[HistoryGirl2]

^Maybe more info will come out as to why later on. From what I?m seeing, they were followed all the way home, which is unpleasant, but also not what was described. This is a time where I do hope I?m wrong because death isn?t something that should be used to garner publicity.

When I saw the headline, immediate flashback to Princess Diana and I thought ?oh no, who?s injured? What?s gone on??

[wannable]

Thank you TLLK and HistoryGirl2, in all honesty and as I said like what 6 months ago, the social media technology has changed the media world in such a way that the flying flash instant news is unbeatable. Media outlets won't die, long articles, long versions, sectioned to what is your interest, but it will be specific only. After saying this, it is not that I knew the NYC.GOV laws and regulations, I LEARNED it from twitter posters, checked to see if with link, link reliable, it checks out. No link, I review google, it checks out, it's a GO for me to make a comment in this forum, or of any other interests I have non royal related. I DO follow many people in Instagram, Twitter, Tik Tok. ETA: Youtube and Twitter is making moves already, a blue checkmark one can write long essays  :lol: and post videos, they already have lives. One can join any live for free...

HistoryGirl2, some twitteraties are 'claiming' the Sussexes made their OWN decision to go to a NYPD police station with their OWN plans to 'switch' to a yellow cab rather than continue with their 2 Black SUV's. I think IMO that was a mistake, and a fit to create drama. Sorry, but this sounds very Sussex.

Also, some twitteraties have a ''sequence' of pap pictures, from leaving the Hertz hotel sad, sitting at their SUV the threesome sad, the NYPD switch, with one cop car following them, the pictures of them in the yellow cab.  I am really curious to see the entire CCTV from arrival/departure, traffic, the one cop car, end destination despite the announcement of NYPD.

[wannable]

Dan Wootton
@danwootton

Harry and Meghan's New York taxi driver Sukhcharn Singh blows their car chase story apart: ''I don?t think I would call it a chase. I never felt like I was in danger. It wasn't like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared but it's New York ? it?s safe.''


Adam Creighton
@Adam_Creighton

"The taxi driver who transported the couple after attending an event on Tuesday told The Washington Post in an interview that he would not call the incident a chase, adding that he felt safe during the ride."

[wannable]

Caitlyn Jenner
@Caitlyn_Jenner
I have been party to paps following me in NY (definitely not 2 hrs and plenty of evidence - kind of the point since they have cameras), LA (even in a city with lots of driving and long distances between destinations, not 2 hours, and AGAIN LOTS OF EVIDENCE) it comes with the territory. Whine whine whine is all these 2 seem to do



Megyn Kelly
@megynkelly
I lived in Manhattan for 17 yrs & it is not possible to have a 2hr 'car chase' there. Too many street lights/stop signs, too much foot/car traffic & hundreds of places you could safely pull over to protect yourself.

[wannable]

NYC Mayor, Eric Adams calling the Sussexes statement from (the spokesperson) reckless and irresponsible.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1658867200856412162

[wannable]

^ Learned: Under his TV statement, any citizen from NYC can make a civil case against the Sussexes under the NY Penal Law 210.15 False Statement, Class A misdeameanor, 4 years jail, pay a fine, and 3 years probation to visit NYC. Second largest comments is to the Sussexes to retract the statement before any NYC citizen files an action.

So the public has the statements from NYPD, the Taxi Driver and the NYC Mayor.

[sara8150]

Harry and Meghan involved in 'near catastrophic' car chase while in New York, spokesman claims | Daily Mail Online

'Stalker' is arrested lurking outside Harry and Meghan's Montecito mansion | Daily Mail Online

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Car Chase: N.Y.C. Mayor Speaks Out

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry NYC Car Chase: NYPD Statement

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Car Chase: Everything to Know

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry Car Chase: Buckingham Palace Has No Comment
Private matters and its business matters

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry Involved in Paparazzi Car Chase in NYC

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle involved in 'near catastrophic car chase' in New York | HELLO!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65625886

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65627031

Prince Harry and Meghan 'paparazzi car chase' was not 'near catastrophic', NYPD officials suggest | UK News | Sky News

What Prince Harry has previously said about the paparazzi | UK News | Sky News

It's impossible not to be reminded of Diana after 'dangerous' pursuit of Harry and Meghan | UK News | Sky News

Prince Harry and Meghan in near catastrophic car chase with paparazzi, spokesperson says | Prince Harry | The Guardian

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle involved in 'near catastrophic' car chase | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-17/harry-and-meghan-involved-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-10-17/prince-harry-diana-grief-meghan-markle-an-african-journey-itv-tom-bradby

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle say they were in 'near catastrophic car chase' in New York - Mirror Online

Police statement after Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's 'near catastrophic car chase' - Mirror Online

'Stalker' caught outside Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's California mansion in early hours - Mirror Online

Prince Harry & Meghan Markle involved in 'car chase' after awards ceremony in New York, spokesman says | The Sun

?Stalker?, 29, arrested lurking outside Prince Harry and Meghan Markle?s ?12m California mansion in middle of the night | The Sun

[changemhysoul]

The way the British media are covering this is absolutely disgusting.

One, by putting words in the Sussex?s mouth. They never said they were in a high speed chase, they said it was rentless and harmful two hour chase.

Just so much of it was disgraceful and nasty.

And I don?t and didn?t expect the family to say anything but if they can?t say anything now, I don?t want ?darling family? ?Olive branches? ?dear missed family? ?sad grandpa? PR later on.

[wannable]

The official statement from the Sussexes, posted by Omid Scobie



Vs. The NYPD, Taxi Driver and the NYC Mayor

[TLLK]

NYC Mayor, Eric Adams calling the Sussexes statement from (the spokesperson) reckless and irresponsible.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1658867200856412162

Interesting as Mayor Adam's is a former NYPD officer.

[HistoryGirl2]

Dan Wootton
@danwootton

Harry and Meghan's New York taxi driver Sukhcharn Singh blows their car chase story apart: ''I don?t think I would call it a chase. I never felt like I was in danger. It wasn't like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared but it's New York ? it?s safe.''


Adam Creighton
@Adam_Creighton

"The taxi driver who transported the couple after attending an event on Tuesday told The Washington Post in an interview that he would not call the incident a chase, adding that he felt safe during the ride."

I would imagine a NYC cabbie would have had his fair share of scrapes that would put this in perspective lol I feel second hand embarrassment for them and their constant need for attention. I should have known better than to worry for their safety. Making mountains out of molehills and having their recollections vary from anyone else involved in any situation is just a way of life, I suppose. And the constant need to cosplay Diana from both of them is both bizarre and concerning.

[wannable]

Interesting as Mayor Adam's is a former NYPD officer.

He knows that Yellow Cab's in NYC have tracking device, it is a ''federal law'' for this city.  The cab driver did a full disclosure exclusive to Piers Morgan basically stating that the 'yellow cab head office' has the tracking, the threesome were picked up at a NYPD precinct at the Sussexes request and final destination, which Piers will disclose tonight.

What I mean to say is in conjunction with what the mayor stated the Diana bit, the reckless and irresponsibility of the Sussexes can be translated to that in order for them to get a cop car, the sussexes had to file a cop car request.  The yellow cabs have picked up at NYPD precinct usually for people who HAVE filed a whatever happening rob, assault, crash, death, injury, etc. Since NYC is huge, the state law had to do the NY Law of False Statements with the easing of retracting it to avoid getting in trouble. If not, too many cases, too many admin expenses, too many investigations, etc. Uber tracking exists too worldwide including NYC and that particular city, if required by blue uniform, Uber has to give the tracking of the road trip.  All this from social media with links to yellow cab, federal law and Uber NYC.  It's easier to get away with it at smaller cities, towns. Like what some celebs are tweeting LA to the Highway...yikes.

Many drivers are including video/voice at the mirrorr (started with the inside mirror, now you can install outside mirror, roof cctv with birds eye view), it has saved countless of stuff happening inside and outside a car...fact. New cars already come with this system, especially electrical. NYC yellow cabs, the new ones have this system.

[HistoryGirl2]

^I find all of it so distasteful. To feel the need to constantly paint this picture of you close to death is disgusting, in my opinion. I had hoped that they would stop these absurdities after the coronation, but I see once again, they show their true colors. There?s people that actually die in car accidents, to turn it into a PR stunt is sickening. Horrid, shameless people. Who I feel most sorry for is William. Their pathetic attempt to pretend they?re Diana in a car chase has to remind him of that horrible, horrible day.

I, for one, am done reading or posting about them once and for all. Nothing intriguing about them and I think it?s safe to say their stunts have only served to make the RF look better by comparison. Their latest actions are vile and speak to who they truly are. I think I?ll stick with the Princess Annes of the world who can find a way to not dramatize a literal kidnap attempt or the King Charleses who can continue on after having someone actually try to assassinate him.

[wannable]

^True.

A last bit, NYC off duty cops can be hired at the 'precinct. They have to uphold to the law like if they were on duty, they are subject to investigation with false statements too.  They did their statement to the NYPD, NYPD did their statement.  It's hard to be a corrupt cop within NYC because of big brother TV.  There is a clue here why they went to a NYPD precinct, hired two off duties, but the sting didn't come out as they wanted. There are a lot of speculations about why did they get a yellow cab to pick them up at a precinct.  One floating is the two off duty cops did not want to be collateral damage, thrown under the bus, be part of a sting, so this would be 3 people as witnesses: 2 cops 1 driver.  What I do know is that Sussex statement with NYC is too hard to swallow. The city of lights, bumper to bumper 24/7/365 is the hardest part.

[wannable]

[wannable]

The Yellow Cab driver told Piers Morgan the same as his mandatory tracking device: picked up the Sussexes at Precinct 19 drove around and returned them to/drop off Precinct 19.

[Curryong]

BBC report from about half an hour ago about what really happened in NYC..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65625886

The NYPD confirmed an incident took place involving Harry and Meghan and said numerous photographers "made their transport challenging".
No injuries or arrests were reported, the police said. Buckingham Palace has not yet commented.
There are claims the chase involved half a dozen cars, with reckless driving including going through red lights, driving on the pavement, carrying out blocking moves, and reversing down a one-way street - as well as taking photographs while driving.
BBC News understands Harry and Meghan were staying at a friend's home, and did not return directly to avoid compromising their security.
The couple and Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland, tried to take shelter from the paparazzi by going to a Manhattan police station.
There was then a plan to use a New York taxi, with a yellow cab flagged down and Harry, Meghan, Ms Ragland and a security officer getting inside.