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Is Henry's wedding a possibility?
A 2017 Royal Wedding is a high possibility – Royal Central (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/a-2017)
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on January 09, 2017, 11:49:07 PM
Is Henry's wedding a possibility?
A 2017 Royal Wedding is a high possibility – Royal Central (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/a-2017)
Yes, I believe this as well. I also believe that they have indeed been talking about marriage. They could already be engaged at some point and keep it a secret for 2 or 3 months before announcing it. Who knows?
QuoteWill Meghan Markle change the public's access to the Royal Family?
All bets are on that Prince Harry will tie the knot, or at least pop the question, to his girlfriend, Meghan Markle in 2017. Yet, she is a most unconventional addition to the British Royal Family.
Currently, Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace run Twitter accounts on behalf of the Senior members of the family and only tweet out pictures and information from official events. Many have suggested that to keep current and in popularity with today's youth, they should bring some more light to what goes on behind closed doors such as other European royalty.
Queen Rania of Jordan is a pro at this, she runs she own Twitter and is very active. Crown Prince Hussein of Jordan follows in her footsteps. Princess Tessy of Luxembourg and Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway both use Instagram with Mette-Marit a fan of Twitter, too. Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau is frequently on Twitter, and Princess Madeleine is often on Facebook sharing pictures of her life in London and pictures of her children.
Read more:
Will Meghan Markle change the public's access to the Royal Family? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/opinion/will-meghan-markle-change-the-publics-access-to-the-royal-family-74781)
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I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to marry Meghan Markle in 2017. He was very confident about the success of his relationship with her in less than 2 months! He even took her to see the Northern Lights in Norway, but there are not public pictures of them. They value their privacy. I think the media should just leave them alone.
QuotePrince Harry takes Meghan Markle to see Northern Lights in Norway
Click to see more: Prince Harry takes Meghan Markle to see Northern Lights in Norway - Photo 1 (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/gallery/2017010735614/prince-harry-takes-meghan-markle-to-see-northern-lights-in-norway/1/)
QuotePrince Harry and Meghan Markle's Norwegian Vacation: Breaking Down Their Romantic Excursion By the Numbers
Prince Harryand Meghan Markle's relationship shines just as bright as the Northern Lights.
As E! News previously reported, the redheaded royal kicked off 2017 by whisking his girlfriend away for a super private stay in Norway. The lovebirds spent a few days taking in the picturesque sights of the northern European country.
According to multiple outlets, Harry and Meghan traveled to the remote town of Tromso where they enjoyed whale-watching, spent the night under the Aurora Borealis and took part in a bevy of other winter-themed activities.
Read more:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Norwegian Vacation: Breaking Down Their Romantic Excursion By the Numbers | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/821056/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-s-norwegian-vacation-breaking-down-their-romantic-excursion-by-the-numbers)
I go back and forth on her.
I think many do because no one knows about her like people about K. The public and the people of TUK knew of where she grew up, family, their business and more and the media saw K for over 5-9 years.
Then again, unlike K, lucky MM has not had all that media
for all that long following her graduating, leaving home, shopping with her mom and sister and brother and on and on .
I think MM , while she is dating him, should get of social media. She posted a pick of the place where they stayed.
I do nt know if it was posted AFTER they left or while they were there. I just saw this on an entertainment show here in the USA.
If AFTTER, ok, but still.
If she marries him, she will have more press following her every public move...we know from not being the people involved, but just royal watchers. She will have her schedule made . She will have the names of her children , from a long list , to select from. She will have her kid's godparents picked out with her picking them out from the list. Her clothing...her choice from the TPTB with xyz designers. Her homes , PH's name and homes are already picked out. Jumping on a commercial plane to fly over to see her own mother in CA would just not be practical. Security for her. Security and inconveniece for other passengers.
I really think PH will marry her.
I keep posting again and repeating and reposting, sorry, but I hope this girl really gets it.
K got it and wanted that life from the beginning. She also comes from that country and grew up seeing BRF daily in the news , etc.
NEXT, rumor is MM will accompany PH to his friend's Jamaica wedding. Did you see TDM? MM 's first wedding was in Jamaica ? Too funny!!
Flipside, she and her ex-husband were married for about 2 years and were together as a couple before that for about 7 years.
That was not some "rushed, too young, too fast, not really knowing each their marriage."
Right now he has been SEEN with Megan the same amount of times he has been seen with Flee and people think he will marry her? I think some are jumping the gun here ... ridiculous ... this relationship would have to survive 2017 and the middle of 2018 then maybe ... but as it is right now ... some are thinking he will marry because he took her on a vacation? How many vacations he has taken with Chelsy and Cressida? Again ... ridiculous ...
Hi, I'm new... :doublewave:
I'm in two minds about Meghan... If she can stand being in the BRF she might be an asset. She's probably clever enough to understand the rules, and the consequences of not following those rules. I think she very beautiful, and she's highlighted interesting social issues.
On the other hand... She seems awfully manipulative and not entirely honest. The washing up liquid story seems fairly suspect to me, why were they watching television in class? And the "no box to tick for mixed race" story sounds off too - this this was the 90's not the 60's, after all - I've never encountered a form were ethnicity were to be filled in that didn't have a mixed race box (and I'm a few years older than her).
I'm not sure how serious the relationship is, someone certainly wants them to look like they're on the verge of getting married, but is it true? Some stories are obviously nonsense - like Harry walking off with a 6 foot Christmas tree under his arm while holding hands with Meghan (whoever came up with that one has obviously never tried to wrangle a X-mas tree!), but some of the stories seemed to be leaked from someone very much in the know...
^ Megan came with baggage ... it seems when she hit the big time people who she wasn't nice with on her way up came poring online even her own sister ... that is cause of concern as I have seen the same thing as I said once before happen with Miranda Kerr when she first started dating Orlando and boy were those people right and did that end up in tears ... in this case though I am hopeful as Harry gets bored easily and tends to walk away when things gets serious ... she just hasn't made the mistake of asking things of him ... yet ... she knows she would be history if she did ...
Quote from: Eri on January 11, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
^ Megan came with baggage
Most people of her age do. I'd be more concerned if she lived like a nun and hung around Harry and his set - hoping to catch his eye. She lived. And Good on her! IMO she would be a wonderful addition to that family. Gawd knows they need it.
^
I agree 100% and they do need it. They have been so blah since Diana died.
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Quote from: Tiddles88 on January 11, 2017, 05:31:22 PM
Hi, I'm new... :doublewave:
I'm in two minds about Meghan... If she can stand being in the BRF she might be an asset. She's probably clever enough to understand the rules, and the consequences of not following those rules. I think she very beautiful, and she's highlighted interesting social issues.
On the other hand... She seems awfully manipulative and not entirely honest. The washing up liquid story seems fairly suspect to me, why were they watching television in class? And the "no box to tick for mixed race" story sounds off too - this this was the 90's not the 60's, after all - I've never encountered a form were ethnicity were to be filled in that didn't have a mixed race box (and I'm a few years older than her).
I'm not sure how serious the relationship is, someone certainly wants them to look like they're on the verge of getting married, but is it true? Some stories are obviously nonsense - like Harry walking off with a 6 foot Christmas tree under his arm while holding hands with Meghan (whoever came up with that one has obviously never tried to wrangle a X-mas tree!), but some of the stories seemed to be leaked from someone very much in the know...
How is Meghan manipulative and not honest? He pursued her from what I read. And he may have stolen her from her prior BF I understand.
We need to remember that She's 35 and he's 32. I doubt any couple their age who wants a family would be investing time in a romantic relationship without considering the possibility of marriage and children.
^ Just because they are of a certain age doesn't mean they should get married or they are thinking about it ... she just came out of a very serious civil union ... he would be crazy to not keep things casual with this one as she seems to love getting married but not the reality of it ...
^ I disagree
@Eri. Harry can play the field till the cows come home. But, IMO he has found a lady who rocks his boat.
However, I do disagree with him jetting around the world with TP funded protection - to visit his latest squeeze!
Everyone has an opinion about this but per Harry's KP statement, Harry is going to marry Meghan if that is what he wants to do and he doesn't care what anyone who is against it thinks.
This wedding will happen! I predict an engagement in mid-2017 and a wedding in early 2018 if not in 2017 too.
Harry has 24 hour protection and that is not likely to change and therefore can go wherever he wants whenever on his own time with his officers. Whether you disagree or not it won't change his protection status. He has a team and that's not changing.
Quote from: Yale on January 11, 2017, 10:26:01 PM
Harry has 24 hour protection and that is not likely to change and therefore can go wherever he wants whenever on his own time with his officers. Whether you disagree or not it won't change his protection status. He has a team and that's not changing.
Doesn't make it right, though. People are dying on trollies in A&E ....
Theresa May needs to put a stop to this nonsense.
Take Kate's brief visit today - numerous cars, flashing theirs lights (and no crowds} Talk about building their part....
Quote from: SophieChloe on January 12, 2017, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: Yale on January 11, 2017, 10:26:01 PM
Harry has 24 hour protection and that is not likely to change and therefore can go wherever he wants whenever on his own time with his officers. Whether you disagree or not it won't change his protection status. He has a team and that's not changing.
Doesn't make it right, though. People are dying on trollies in A&E ....
Theresa May needs to put a stop to this nonsense.
Take Kate's brief visit today - numerous cars, flashing theirs lights (and no crowds} Talk about building their part....
Well, when Meghan marries Harry she will 24 protection and she will need it. She might be a target because she's American.
^^^ As Harry's wife I do believe that she would require a full-time RPO. Here is a question. If Meghan marries Harry will she be required to renounce her American citizenship?
If those two marry in 2017 we all know how it is going to end ... this is ridiculous ... he just started dating her he would have to be even more stupid than I think him to be if he marries her a few Months into the relationship ... she might rock his boat right now but that doesn't mean she is Royal family material ... I say let's see how this goes without picking any dates yet ... he broke up with Cressida in a less than civil manner when everybody though they were stable and they would eventually get engaged and that was nearly three Years into the relationship just saying ...
Quote from: TLLK on January 12, 2017, 02:48:38 AM
^^^ As Harry's wife I do believe that she would require a full-time RPO. Here is a question. If Meghan marries Harry will she be required to renounce her American citizenship?
I have been told she can keep it and she would automatically be given UK citizenship too.
Quote from: Yale on January 11, 2017, 08:41:38 PM
^
How is Meghan manipulative and not honest? He pursued her from what I read. And he may have stolen her from her prior BF I understand.
I don't believe her stories of the washing up liquid ad, nor her story of there not being a box to tick for mixed race on the form her teacher gave her. That's why I say I think she not honest.
Manipulative because I'm 100% sure that she was the one who leaked the existence of relationship with Harry. A woman who wishes to keep a relationship private does not publish a picture of herself wearing his "trademark" jewellery.
Plus, the Americanism in the statement from KP leaves Meghan's fingerprints squarely on it. So this is something that was done on Meghan's behest, not a spontaneous reaction from Harry.
They may marry, but I think Harry's not not that page, at least not yet. If he was, he would have brought her to Twickenham in November and "introduced her" as his chosen bride (not in so many word, of course, but by the fact that she was there, with him). He didn't.
Some may think that it doesn't matter what we, the hoi polloi of the British taxpayer, think, but it does. Once HM has passed, the monarchy is on very shaky footing. Most likely, there will be a hasty referendum and if not at least one senior member of the RF is popular at that point, it'll all be over. Harry and Meghan need to woo us, not just each other.
^ I know it's been said on Twitter that Meghan and her lawyers supposedly forced the statement that came from KP in her defence. However, people can say anything on Twitter without any proof whatsoever. As for Americanisms in the letter, Jason Knaupf the KP Communications Director, who seemingly composed it, is an American. That surely explains the 'fingerprints'.
QuoteThese eyes are fit for a Prince - and they've been voted the most alluring in the world
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle has the world's most alluring eyes, according to a new survey.
The 35-year-old actress's smouldering brown eyes which first attracted the royal topped a new poll to find the star with the sexiest eyes.
Hollywood beauty Megan Fox's bluey green eyes came second and the Duchess of Cambridge with her green eyes came third.
Read more:
These eyes are fit for a Prince - and they've been voted the most alluring in the world - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/eyes-fit-prince-theyve-been-9603688)
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QuotePrince Harry 'truly in love' with Meghan Markle: Couple getting engaged 'sometime this year'- report
Prince Harry is "truly in love" with the Suits actress Meghan Markle, according to a new report.
A source told E! News, "Harry is truly in love. They're very serious." The source also revealed that couple's close friends are already predicting a possible "engagement announcement" later in 2017. The insider told the website that those close to Harry and Meghan "wouldn't be surprised if there will be an engagement announcement sometime this year."
The couple reportedly welcomed the New Year with a romantic vacation in Norway, where they viewed the Northern Lights and enjoyed whale-watching and sunsets in the snow. Another source also told the website that the couple also spent the New Year in London.
Read more:
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle getting engaged 'sometime this year' says report (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/prince-harry-truly-love-meghan-markle-couple-getting-engaged-sometime-this-year-report-1600639)
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QuotePrince Harry Is 'Truly in Love' With Meghan Markle, Friends Believe They Will Get Engaged Soon
It looks like Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are close to taking their relationship to the next level. According to a new report from E! News, the 32-year-old British royal and the "Suits" actress are "truly in love" with each other, and friends believe the pair will get engaged later this year.
"Harry is truly in love," a source tells the publication. "They're very serious." The source goes on to say that those close to the famous couple "wouldn't be surprised if there will be an engagement announcement sometime this year."
The site revealed earlier this week that Harry and Markle spent the New Year together in London before kicking off the new year by having a private vacation in Norway. The pair were said to enjoy whale-watching and sunsets in the snow aside from seeing the Northen Lights.
Read more: Prince Harry Is 'Truly in Love' With Meghan Markle, Friends Believe They Will Get Engaged Soon (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00104637.html)
Quote from: Curryong on January 12, 2017, 12:18:03 PM
^ As for Americanisms in the letter, Jason Knaupf the KP Communications Director, who seemingly composed it, is an American. That surely explains the 'fingerprints'.
I didn't know he was American, so I retract the "fingerprints" thing then. But, personally I suspect that the statement had more to do with Section 40 than true love anyway, so it really doesn't matter.
That's recap ... he starts dating a CHEATER who gives up her long time "husband" for Harry not for his looks but for who his father is she thinks she is living a come to life fairy tale until she finds out he is interested in a much younger MUCH MORE attractive brunette she unleashes all sorts of dramatics not to mention lawyers to get an ignorant statement ... true love you all ... true love ... fast forward to now she is still to be SEEN with him and having him behave like a proper boyfriend and she is still living in Toronto having her Daily parading for payed by her PR paps ... excuse me Yoga sessions ... not even close to a ring if you ask me ...
I have no doubt that they will be at least engaged in 2017. Meghan is intelligent, mature, does humanitarian work, is articulate, knows how to deal with press, where will he find another like her? ... Harry is no longer a boy and the The fact that he has defended her is a clear sign that he is involved with her up to the neck
Quote from: Yale on January 12, 2017, 05:15:14 AM
Quote from: TLLK on January 12, 2017, 02:48:38 AM
^^^ As Harry's wife I do believe that she would require a full-time RPO. Here is a question. If Meghan marries Harry will she be required to renounce her American citizenship?
I have been told she can keep it and she would automatically be given UK citizenship too.
Will children have UK citizenship and American citizenship?
^ Harry and Meghan's children would not have US citizenship unless they were born in the US, which would be very unlikely IMO.
Quote from: Cat00 on January 12, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
I have no doubt that they will be at least engaged in 2017. Meghan is intelligent, mature, does humanitarian work, is articulate, knows how to deal with press, where will he find another like her? ... Harry is no longer a boy and the The fact that he has defended her is a clear sign that he is involved with her up to the neck
It would seem she doesn't know how to deal with the press or he wouldn't have been forced to put an ignorant statement out there ... it would seem to me Chelsy who was much younger knew how to deal with the press better ... speaking of ... Chelsy is a lawyer or at least tried so he can find more intelligent , articulate women ... Chelsy being one of them ... it just seems that after Chelsy he stopped trying ...
I really hope Harry doesn't marry MM. He could do better IMHO. His wedding will be a sight to see, when the day comes though :partaay: :flower: :royalsneeze: :vday2: :babykins: :chelsy: :catfight:
If they are as serious as some think they are she would live in London by now ... but no ... I can't see it lasting between them if they live in different Continents ... it's interesting she hasn't moved to a place she would have to live if their intention is to get married ...
^ IA. If and when Meghan makes a move to London, then they both will start a real relationship. Where it goes from there, who knows?
With Harry's family bad record in marriages, along w/ Meghan's not so good track record in relationships (I mean divorce after a decade into a relationship doesn't say much about both of their commitment) , Harry should be smart enough to take his time. (at least I hope he is smart)
side note: I remember watching a documentary of really rich heirs/heiresses in w/c they say PRENUP has always been drilled into their brains since they were kids.
Quote from: Eri on January 12, 2017, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on January 12, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
I have no doubt that they will be at least engaged in 2017. Meghan is intelligent, mature, does humanitarian work, is articulate, knows how to deal with press, where will he find another like her? ... Harry is no longer a boy and the The fact that he has defended her is a clear sign that he is involved with her up to the neck
It would seem she doesn't know how to deal with the press or he wouldn't have been forced to put an ignorant statement out there ... it would seem to me Chelsy who was much younger knew how to deal with the press better ... speaking of ... Chelsy is a lawyer or at least tried so he can find more intelligent , articulate women ... Chelsy being one of them ... it just seems that after Chelsy he stopped trying ...
Either you don't understand or you don't want to understand. It was not she who asked Harry to make that statement, it was he who felt troubled by the press and troll attacks against her
And resolve to defend her.
Chelsy knew so much how to deal with the press, who jumped off the boat :lol:
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Quote from: TheRealDuchessOfSussex on January 13, 2017, 12:38:36 AM
I really hope Harry doesn't marry MM. He could do better IMHO. His wedding will be a sight to see, when the day comes though :partaay: :flower: :royalsneeze: :vday2: :babykins: :chelsy: :catfight:
who? Another futile socialite?
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Quote from: Kinkade on January 13, 2017, 08:58:43 AM
^ IA. If and when Meghan makes a move to London, then they both will start a real relationship. Where it goes from there, who knows?
With Harry's family bad record in marriages, along w/ Meghan's not so good track record in relationships (I mean divorce after a decade into a relationship doesn't say much about both of their commitment) , Harry should be smart enough to take his time. (at least I hope he is smart)
side note: I remember watching a documentary of really rich heirs/heiresses in w/c they say PRENUP has always been drilled into their brains since they were kids.
It is not because the person has had a failed marriage and a divorce, that she can not succeed in a new relationship. Charles and Camilla were both divorced and had failed marriages and today they are happy together.
I am all for free speech; but frankly speaking I am rather amazed at the amount of negativity surrounding this relationship. MM may have been indiscreet but she is no mass murderer. As to her race, I understand that ship sailed long ago during the reign of Victoria. Diana herself was not immune to the joys of equal opportunities romantic encounters. I would not be surprised that one of her sons would be comfortable marrying someone of mixed race. In any case, does it really matter in this century??? These are serious questions so please be gentle with me when responding. :wink:
I think people here are not looking at the big picture as far as this relationship goes. At the moment Harry is fifth in line to the throne he has a lot more freedom to choose the bride for him. As far as Meghan being divorced so what as far as the RF goes no divorcees marrying in that ship sailed long ago with Princess Anne divorcing and remarrying and the Heir to the throne himself divorced and marrying the divorcee who caused the break up of his marriage he is still the Heir. As for her ethnicity and career who cares? again Lady Gabriella Windsor was rumoured to almost be engaged and dated a man from India, Lady Rose Gilman the daughter of the Duke of Gloucester married a Maori so ethnicity is not an issue she still has her place in the succession and career well at least she has one unlike Kate who graduated St. Andrews and didn't attempt to get a job or start a career in the field she studied. If Harry wants to marry Meghan I think he has shown every intention he wants to from the statement to protecting their privacy.
But my question is what is all this complaining about Meghan, saying that he can do better etc, calling her manipulative and so on, what is any of that going to accomplish? Seriously! Even if Harry read all that you have to say, it would not make him a bit of difference. He wouldn't care and he won't. He couldn't care less.
If Harry wants to marry Meghan, that is exactly what is is going to do!
[gmod]Members are allowed to express their opinion. They are not "complaining" nor failing to "see the bigger picture".
Please, once again - respect opinions that do not chime with your own. SC [/gmod]
Quote from: Eri on January 12, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
That's recap ... he starts dating a CHEATER who gives up her long time "husband" for Harry not for his looks but for who his father is she thinks she is living a come to life fairy tale until she finds out he is interested in a much younger MUCH MORE attractive brunette she unleashes all sorts of dramatics not to mention lawyers to get an ignorant statement ... true love you all ... true love ... fast forward to now she is still to be SEEN with him and having him behave like a proper boyfriend and she is still living in Toronto having her Daily parading for payed by her PR paps ... excuse me Yoga sessions ... not even close to a ring if you ask me ...
E list actresses have a lot of time on their hands so where ever she's going, it's her way of taking a break from worrying about the lack of good roles.I can see why she's so into yoga to deal with the stress. She should be saving each coin she's earned in the past few months. With all those trips to bavaria, verbier and norway without her, it wouldnt be a shock that they've separated.
Quote from: Eri on January 13, 2017, 02:16:17 AM
If they are as serious as some think they are she would live in London by now ... but no ... I can't see it lasting between them if they live in different Continents ... it's interesting she hasn't moved to a place she would have to live if their intention is to get married ...
I guess she is screwed with the long distance thing. Can't afford to live in london because she would never be able to earn money working as an actress there. It's pretty bad when in order for her to stay in london, she has to marry him just to go on more dates. It would be the fastest way to get harry to give her walking papers. If he hasn't already.
I think she's comfortable with her income. If they want to get married, they will certainly find a way to deal with details.
Quote from: SophieChloe on January 13, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Members are allowed to express their opinion. They are not "complaining" nor failing to "see the bigger picture".
Please, once again - respect opinions that do not chime with your own. SC
That is understood but that was not my point.
IMO, it is good that PH and MM have been able to spend time together and perhaps with people that support them. I saw the Daily Fail yesterday was so desperate for a story they used old pictures of MM to report that she was in TO attending yoga. If she was in TO why did they, a supposed newspaper, use pictures taken last year? Fake news. PH has already given his terrific opinion, loud and clear in his statement, what he thinks about the mean-spiritedness and harassment directed towards MM and their relationship.
Despite all of the naysayers, Charles, heir to the throne, stood his ground with his current wife. If the divorced heir to the throne and defender of the Faith can marry a fellow divorcee with whom he admitted, he had an adulterous affair and both of them had children, I honestly don't understand all of the fuss and negativity about PH and MM.
Quote from: SophieChloe on January 13, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Members are allowed to express their opinion. They are not "complaining" nor failing to "see the bigger picture".
Please, once again - respect opinions that do not chime with your own. SC
Sorry SophieChloe I misspoke I didn't just mean people here I meant in general from comments in the papers and so forth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I was just trying to point out that Meghan doesn't appear to have any major character flaws to elicit such hostility regarding her and Harry's romance.
Quote from: Trudie on January 13, 2017, 10:53:01 PM
Quote from: SophieChloe on January 13, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Members are allowed to express their opinion. They are not "complaining" nor failing to "see the bigger picture".
Please, once again - respect opinions that do not chime with your own. SC
Sorry SophieChloe I misspoke I didn't just mean people here I meant in general from comments in the papers and so forth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I was just trying to point out that Meghan doesn't appear to have any major character flaws to elicit such hostility regarding her and Harry's romance.
Trudie, I think SopieChloe's post was directed at me and that's fine. The point I was making in that post indirectly is that we are constantly rehashing the same old opinions and comments is not doing any good. Can we move on to other topics about the relationship? Something different!! Because in the end none of it matters because Harry is going to do what he wants regardless. It kind of looks like that some are almost expecting Harry to see their discontent with Meghan via their opinions here and will end it because of that,
This thread is going to down the same path the last one did. Posters trying to make it about them and their feelings. It's exhausting.
I think the whole situation between Harry and Meghan is very unclear at the moment. Twitter and tumblr sites have got beyond the early snarky madness but there is still a lot of ill will between those who believe that Harry and Meghan are no longer a couple and those who believe they are still together.
He's blocked her, she's unfollowed him, no they haven't, they've just changed things, and so it goes, on and on. The fact Meghan virtually disappeared since Christmas has unnerved some. Others have provided an explanation for it. In spite of some Tumblr site people declaring that they and only they know the truth, (and there are some wild scenarios out there) the situation is confused and confusing. This is naturally reflected here among posters as well.
For those who are interested in this saga all we have to go on are sparse clues and our own feelings about the matter. My own view is that Harry and Meghan are still in contact in some way, my opinion only and I could well be wrong. In a way this reminds me of the early months of both the Cressida and the Chelsy romances with Harry.
There were out and out denials from the fandom for months that Harry and Cress could possibly be together and photos that appeared on Twitter of them were fiercely rejected. There was tons of speculation but it was only later, much much later, that any press photos of them appeared.
I feel that Harry is quite Houdini-like when he doesn't want to be photographed, a surprising talent really, in such a very well known man. However time will solve this whole saga one way or another as it always does everything else and then things will become much clearer.
My own view is though, and always has been, that if these two are still together and eventually talk marriage, then Meghan is going to have to take that leap into the great unknown and come and live in Britain and experience the British way of life and start learning how the BRF operates. It would be a huge risk for MM, as without an engagement ring on her finger, her whole financial future would be in limbo.
However, waiting until an engagement poses huge risks all round as well. Unlike Chelsy who was at least schooled in England and had a large circle of friends in the country, the period before this wedding would be a massive adjustment for MM. So, we wait and see, I guess.
^ I think this is a good assessment/observation of things.
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Quote from: Cat00 on January 13, 2017, 12:32:28 PM
It is not because the person has had a failed marriage and a divorce, that she can not succeed in a new relationship. Charles and Camilla were both divorced and had failed marriages and today they are happy together.
I never said a divorced person will never succeed in a new relationship. My point being was it would be more prudent for Harry to take his time and get to know Meghan given his family background PLUS responsibilities, as well as Meghan's track record. And take note, Meghan has been divorced/separated twice already from "serious relationships".
IMO, it says a lot how a person honors a promise or commitment. Does it mean there are no grounds for divorce/relationship? Of course not! Some partners can cheat, physically or mentally abuse or steal from another partner. In those horrible circumstances, the other can hopefully rise up and find new happiness.
In the case of Charles and Camilla, I believe they loved each other early on but had many obstacles. They however, treated the people around them badly in order to get their "happiness". I think they paid for that in that they had to wait a long time in order to be properly married. Another bad karma for them is that they are unpopular royals. So much so that there are people who want Prince William to succeed the Queen. (Even the mere suggestion in the press is a slap in the face) And even when Charles becomes King, he'll never get the respect and attention as is given to QE2.
Why is Meghan so unpopular? well, I think it mostly has to do with how she has marketed herself and how she manipulated around the media and her Social Media to increase her visibility and popularity. For me, as someone who follows entertainment news and grew up around the L.A./Hollywood area, everything she's done is the classic M.O. of a struggling actresses trying to get attention and media mileage. I'm glad she's been more quiet these days, regardless of their relationship status. Coz the way she's gone about this won't really give her the respectability and upper hand in Hollywood that she's been trying to attain. If the relationship ends, she'll go back to being a C-list TV actress w/ maybe a few more invitations to NY fashion week. If they do end up married, she'll have to give up A LOT of freedom and all will be for naught. But I will sincerely wish them good luck.
I don't think Charles really wanted to marry Camilla in the first place. He had and has a huge sense of entitlement and if he "loved" Camilla he would not have married Diana or gotten involved with other women. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too. Camilla I think was far worse a manipulator than Meghan could even dream of being. Had social media been around, I would imagine she would have used it. She went to the press for ten years (the Sun Editor) to give "her side" of the story. I think he got obligated to Camilla after he outed her and forced her husband to divorce her. Meghan is not unpopular with everybody though. Harry openly named Meghan as his girlfriend. When Charles met Camilla Shand she was considered mistress material and Charles never spoke of her as his "Girlfriend."
^ well, that's a logical observation as well. I always thought that Charles pushed to marry Camilla even at their old age. I wonder if the people would've accepted Camilla as just Charles's partner. Thus, he wouldn't have need to marry her. Prince Rainier never married again after Grace Kelly passed, even though he had a partner.
Well, they (Kate, Meghan, Camilla... ) could've all played "who's the biggest manipulator". But given that Social Media didn't exist then, Camilla had to bid her time and played w/ the the papers for decades. After Diana passed, she had to wait for the Queen's approval and now slowly win people's tolerance. And even though people will say Kate played games, she had to endure 10 years of being Waity Katie.
We have to remember it's only been less than 6 months of Harry & Meghan out there, and the way Meghan has played it, she isn't willing to be waiting on the sidelines. She wants to be front and center in the magazines and HollyWood social talk. I think she figures, if it doesn't work out w/ Harry, at the very least, she gets a front row seat w/ Anna Wintour and more power to negotiate in HW. Seriously, w/ the way things have been handled, can one honestly imagine Meghan waiting for 5 or even 10 years like Kate did???
Kate actually did not have to endure anything. She made the choice to stay around even after the breakup where William ditched her. Camilla got lots of perks during her wait. She got the bling as mistress and was always in control. Meghan may be here to stay and marry Harry. Time will tell.
So at the end of the day Charles, William and Harry are weak minded wimps that were manipulated by women into marriages? The next day, the three men are vile....
It can't be both wimp and vile.
Both genders seeked what they wanted or they wouldn't be together.
So Harry now is dumb
I don't believe Harry like his father and brother is a weak minded wimp nor do I think he is easily manipulated. Harry is not dumb either if he was he would have fallen by the same path at Charles and William both of whom married women with the tenacity to endure protracted relationships for years until it ended with what they wanted. Camilla and Kate put up with negative press and name calling for years such as the Rottweiler, Waity etc. Camilla in particular wasn't too bothered about her reputation as homewrecker, laziest woman in Britain she just kept her eye on the Prize. Meghan I believe is different she has done charity work before meeting Harry unlike Camilla and Kate who only started doing a little charity work once they became linked to Charles and William. Neither woman has worked in a career unlike Meghan. Harry obviously sees Meghan's qualities as a modern self sufficient woman I highly doubt at this stage in his life he is looking for a further status seeking minor aristo like Camilla or a daughter of extremely middleclass tho of sufficient means to support a daughter to make her available to catch the eye and maintain a long relationship until marriage.
Quote from: wannable on January 14, 2017, 03:40:11 PM
So at the end of the day Charles, William and Harry are weak minded wimps that were manipulated by women into marriages? The next day, the three men are vile....
It can't be both wimp and vile.
Both genders seeked what they wanted or they wouldn't be together.
So Harry now is dumb
Charles manipulated himself into marriage with Camilla by naming her. Camilla never went out and said she had an affair with Charles. Charles did. Her father confronted him and her husband divorced her. Three years after he outed her Charles started the Camilla promotion campaign. I think Charles became obligated to her then. Camilla manipulated for years even trying to befriend the first wife and later, undermined her when the wife did not show "civilized" behavior by being OK with C and C's "friendship."
Kate IMO dug in her heels and even the unpleasantness of a public rejection by William did not dissuade her from hanging in there and even campaigning to "win him back."
I think wimps can be vile. It all depends...
Harry told the world Meghan is his girlfriend. They may get married and I would not rule it out.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are set to slope off for a romantic break | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4120312/GIRL-TOWN-Harry-Meghan-set-slope-romantic-break-poor-old-William-miss-Alpine-adventure-Kate.html)
Possible ski trip in the works for Harry and Meghan. :wub:
^ the comments section are as much of a fun read as the article. :teehee: :lol:
Seriously, if the papers keep writing about Harry & Meghan's vacations, I think they really aren't helping Harry & Meghan's public image. It seems like all they do is take vacations.
^ They also stay holed up in his palaces when they are together! :coy: That is when, they are together. Most of the time they are not in the same city.
I am trying to find this girl interesting, but I just don't. I think that with Harry's other girlfriends there was more chat on here. What I do find interesting is that her half-brother got arrested last week. I am sure that if interest the royal family as well. :coy:
To some extent I feel bad that her and her family's affairs are now public, but what does she expect? And why do her family members (or ex-family) have to talk to the press? Her half-brother, now arrested. Her father's ex-wife and how her half-brother's ex-wife. I likely I am missing someone. Classless. :thumbsdown:
Especially when the "humanitarian" "activist" "independent" Meghan cancelled her charity commitments so she could have those vacations with Harry.
I find it interesting how people defend Meghan for the same things they criticize Kate.
And her half-brother has been arrested for putting a gun on someone's head. No, nobody is responsible for what their relatives do. Still it looks very bad. I know my parents would have been uneasy if I were dating someone whose family had such members.
Meghan's father's relatives (it's the father's side that has been talking to the Press and getting themselves arrested) apparently haven't spoken to Meghan, nor has she had anything to do with them for about fifteen years. The photos they have of her are very old (she's in her mid-teens and younger in the ones I've seen published.) Her father and mother have said nothing, nor has Meghan herself.
No, the half brother is not very classy. Nor is Kate's Uncle Gary with his criminal record and colourful past. Nor is Kate's second cousin, a strip tease artist who was featured in the tabloids doing a strip act with a crown on her head. Indeed, none of us are responsible for our relatives.
Kate made it through because she was dating the future king. It's not an excuse or good comparison. Harry can't and won't get the protection a future king often gets. And his gf won't either This isn't about blaming her because that would be utterly ridiculous. Her connection to Harry is working for her and sadly her family is working against her. The media isn't concerned with her non existence relationship with them, . . If her name is mentioned in the articles about this arrest then there is no stopping the media. They want to build her up and put her on a pedestal until they find something terrible related to her. Its probably one of the worst things a royal gf can go through.
Quote from: Curryong on January 15, 2017, 01:41:10 PM
Meghan's father's relatives (it's the father's side that has been talking to the Press and getting themselves arrested) apparently haven't spoken to Meghan, nor has she had anything to do with them for about fifteen years. The photos they have of her are very old (she's in her mid-teens and younger in the ones I've seen published.) Her father and mother have said nothing, nor has Meghan herself.
No, the half brother is not very classy. Nor is Kate's Uncle Gary with his criminal record and colourful past. Nor is Kate's second cousin, a strip tease artist who was featured in the tabloids doing a strip act with a crown on her head. Indeed, none of us are responsible for our relatives.
Thank you for pointing this out
@Curryong and I agree that none of us are responsible for our adult relatives. Queen Maxima, Queen Silvia, CP Mary, Queen Letizia, CP Mette-Marit, Princess Michael, and other royals/public figures have had questionable relatives in their immediate and/or extended families ranging from former Nazi party members to accused rapists to those who sell stories to the tabloids. IMO this man's actions should only be a reflection of him and no other family member.
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It's unbelievable that some people take the DM's comments seriously. Whoever writes there are unhappy and bitter people who attack everyone, it's not just Meghan.
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I think that who has to find Meghan interesting is Harry, the opinion of others does not matter
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We aren't to blame for the mistakes of our relatives
Never a truer word said about the DM. The amount of vitriol on that site is almost comical :hehe:
Quote from: psm on January 15, 2017, 01:00:12 PM
Especially when the "humanitarian" "activist" "independent" Meghan cancelled her charity commitments so she could have those vacations with Harry.
I find it interesting how people defend Meghan for the same things they criticize Kate.
And her half-brother has been arrested for putting a gun on someone's head. No, nobody is responsible for what their relatives do. Still it looks very bad. I know my parents would have been uneasy if I were dating someone whose family had such members.
And Prince Harry is still with her!! I don't need to say another word....
^^ I believe it to be unfair to categorise DM's comments being from "unhappy" or "bitter" people. Newsflash - some seem to see beyond the crap. Be it Harry and his girlfriend or W&K "stepping up". Opinions, my dear, just opinions.....
Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 15, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Never a truer word said about the DM. The amount of vitriol on that site is almost comical :hehe:
Would you prefer just glowing comments to be posted?
Hi hi. I am in it right now. Better get a helmet quick :partaay:. But seriously; there is room for all sorts of opinion but DM readers are notorious. They just jump in and attack :lol:
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DM is addictive though. You know you shouldn't read it but you just can't keep away. The other papers like the Guardian and Telegraph are just so boring even if they do worthwhile stories.
I believe that a large den of trolls have been discovered living at the DM basement for years now. :P :ahhh:
There are those who are able to express their opinions without resorting to attacks on those who disagree with them and then there are those who cannot. I choose not to feed the trolls. :shrug:
Quote from: TLLK on January 15, 2017, 07:14:22 PM
I believe that a large den of trolls have been discovered living at the DM basement for years now. :P :ahhh:
See, this is the exact same thing that makes me furious! "A large den of trolls"? Really? Roughly translated as people that do not agree with you.
I know there is a fine line between disagreeing and just hitting out at each other. Unfortunately for DM, many comments are on the warpath from the word go. Sometimes I go straight to the comments. I remember when some kid failed to get an Olympic diving medal for Britain. Gosh, the comments were legendary. There was a time when they went for Prince Williams and now it is Harry's turn. If he knows what is good for him, he will just take it in good humor like many of us do the DM. It is just an addiction that you have to control. I am sure the readers mean no real harm, it is just a culture of attack, vitriol and sometimes genuine human empathy.
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And of course, sometimes it takes combative DM readers to see the wood from the trees. The media can be rather smug so you need an attack dog to keep them in line sometimes.
Quote from: SophieChloe on January 15, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
Quote from: TLLK on January 15, 2017, 07:14:22 PM
I believe that a large den of trolls have been discovered living at the DM basement for years now. :P :ahhh:
See, this is the exact same thing that makes me furious! "A large den of trolls"? Really? Roughly translated as people that do not agree with you.
I have to disagree and I shared my definition of a "troll" in my post. I'll restate it again. IMHO a "troll" is not someone who has a different point of view. A troll is someone who goes out of their way to stir up trouble by attacking anyone because they want to stir up trouble. They exist at the Daily Mail site and other places. As people who have moderated sites you and I have been acquainted with them. :)
You and I have different opinions on the monarchy and likely other topics, but I don't view you as a troll because we disagree. Someone who uses abusive language to attack others is a troll.
QuoteIn Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response often for the troll's amusement.
@SophieChloe -Here is a common definition of the term "troll." Yes I do believe that they live in the DM basement. :P
^ Lazy stereotyping. I do not live in a basement, and I doubt DM posters do either.
I, in the past have called the people of have not agreed with me a "sycophants" - I've accepted I was wrong.
Just in the same vein, those who call dissenting voices "trolls" are just as wrong.
No matter how we try to butter it up - name calling is not the way forward.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 15, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
I know there is a fine line between disagreeing and just hitting out at each other. Unfortunately for DM, many comments are on the warpath from the word go. Sometimes I go straight to the comments. I remember when some kid failed to get an Olympic diving medal for Britain. Gosh, the comments were legendary.
If that same kid was promising the same old guff year after year - whilst living high on the hog - then the comments were deserved.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 15, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
And of course, sometimes it takes combative DM readers to see the wood from the trees. The media can be rather smug so you need an attack dog to keep them in line sometimes.
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^ Lazy stereotyping. I do not live in a basement, and I doubt DM posters do either.
I, in the past have called the people of have not agreed with me a "sycophants" - I've accepted I was wrong.
Just in the same vein, those who call dissenting voices "trolls" are just as wrong.
No matter how we try to butter it up - name calling is not the way forward.
On this we'll have to agree to disagree as I find the definition to be spot on. I've not referred to you as a troll or insinuated that you were one in either of my posts. Also I've shared that I do not find that you are one because as far as I recall you have not used abusive language with me in the past. However since we're just spinning our wheels at this point, I'll bow out.
Hi hi. SophieChloe has made me smile. I am hoping for a good monday as well, although I have to work as I watch the Australian Open tennis championship :lol:
Meg's is a Pippa wannabe. Pippa for Princess.
^ I was just gonna say that she's starting to look like Pippa! :lol: :lol: :nod:
It's always a fine line between defining real trolls or those who just disagree. I've seen angry posters in social media who just lump critics as trolls when they ran out of logical arguments. It's like the fake news phenomenon, those who don't like certain things just lump them up as fake news. Unfortunately, even mainstream media, IMO, has skewed the news and fudged w/ numbers and facts to suit their agendas.
Anyway, I'm sticking w/ my view, hope this relationship fades away. But if Meghan & her team know what's best for her, she should stop "leaking". Vacation news every other week isn't good for her image. TO me, it doesn't make it romantic, it just re-emphasizes that this is a "Vacation romance" between a spoiled, rich royal and a publicity-hound C-list actress. :royalsneeze: :windsor1:
QuoteThe Duchess of Cambridge and Princess Charlotte meet Meghan Markle
Prince Harry has taken another step forward with his girlfriend, Meghan Markle. He has introduced the American actress to his sister-in-law, the Duchess of Cambridge and niece, Princess Charlotte.
A friend told The Sun: "Kate was really looking forward to meeting Meghan and she knew how important it was to Harry.
"They are very close, and he really values her opinion on girlfriends.
Read more:
The Duchess of Cambridge and Princess Charlotte meet Meghan Markle – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/the-duchess-of-cambridge-and-princess-charlotte-meet-meghan-markle-75059)
And to think Jacobi was treated like he was Satan :fuming: ... the new girl's brother gets arrested for holding A GUN on someone's head and suddenly we are not responsible for our relatives ... the hypocrisy is mind blowing ... I call this KARMA for how Harry and his fans treated Cressida and Megan and her questionable attention starved family are about to deliver plenty ... I am gonna be here enjoying every minute of this train wreck ...
Well look at Uncle Gary's antics. William still married Kate. I don't see this as Karma, if these two want to get married they will. The brother would be marginalized as Uncle Gary was. Harry and Cressida broke up and it's over. How they treated each other is known only to them.
Well said
@sandy,'William support and still support the Middleton despite all the bad PR including uncle Gary drug arrest that made the news like Megan half brother did! harry will still support Megan And he will prove it on the ski trip hopefully photo of them kissing and don't care! the Queen
Did not object to the Middleton and accept all their flaw for the sake of William I highly doubt the Queen can not do the same for his other grandson harry. look at prince Phillip not too long ago people had issues with his families and questions his match joining the royal house, his nationality etc.. still they got married.
In fact Megan will get sympathy from the Queen because The Queen understood what is like to be judgeand scrutinize for love.
So harry and Megan will be fine and this will not effect anything I think according to harry point of views, Harry is INLOVE with Megan no matter what is done or say harry always get things done his ways.
I will advice the media/doubter/ never going to happen teams not to waste their breath because it will not change harry mind! Harry love Megan end of topic nothing can be done to undone his mind so save your breath on something important in your lifes.
Harry has said time and time again once he made up his mind that is it!!
^ Guess what ... I couldn't give two damns what Harry does ... his funeral ... I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of some people who bashed and treated Jacobi like he was the devil incarnated but treat what Megan's brother did like it's normal ... it doesn't matter what Harry wants or feels nothing will change the fact Megan and her family are making everyone else look like Saints ... yeah even Pipps ... that's the World we are living right now Pipps looks classy ... another thing ... don't ever speak about Jacobi again LOL ... you have no grounds given Megan's gun trotting brother ...
Friends of theirs think they'll be engaged by Spring? What do you all think?
It's that around March and April?
Quote from: TLLK on January 15, 2017, 09:19:48 PM
On this we'll have to agree to disagree as I find the definition to be spot on. I've not referred to you as a troll or insinuated that you were one in either of my posts. Also I've shared that I do not find that you are one because as far as I recall you have not used abusive language with me in the past. However since we're just spinning our wheels at this point, I'll bow out.
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@TLLK Fainights! Perhaps I overstepped the mark. Perhaps? However, I'm happy to agree to disagree. SCxx
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@Limabeany - Welcome back my Darling Friend. How are you? xxx
Quote from: Yale on January 16, 2017, 05:36:07 PM
Friends of theirs think they'll be engaged by Spring? What do you all think?
It's that around March and April?
IMO, it would be a nice thing. Seems like recently PH and MM have been able to spend a lot of quality time together, hopefully they'll continue to be happy
The Duchess of Cambridge and Princess Charlotte meet Meghan Markle – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/the-duchess-of-cambridge-and-princess-charlotte-meet-meghan-markle-75059)
Not sure how true this story is but here you go. :shrug:
^ Who knows if and when they met one thing is for sure besides the fact there is photographic evidence Megan was in Toronto doing Yoga there is no way rags know if Charlotte was with them ( George not being included on this story seems suspicious to me) or what Megan gave Kate for her birthday ... having said that ... Kate has been avoiding her HARD so if it happened it must have been a nightmare for her ... she is so used to being just the three of them and she being the center of attention I don't know how the weird thing Harry has going on with Will and Kate will work out once he gets marries no matter to whom ...
^ That photographic evidence of Meghan doing yoga in last week's DM is actually from early December of last year. They couldn't find her in Toronto and they needed a story.
I'm new here btw :blowkiss:
^ Welcome Vlaxym. Hope you have fun posting here.
Yes, Meghan hasn't been papped, photographed since December, and there has been considerable comment on Twitter and Tumblrs about her whereabouts.
Meghan Markle steps out for yoga class in Toronto after getaway with Prince Harry | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4112778/A-spring-step-Meghan-Markle-steps-yoga-class-Toronto-romantic-getaway-Prince-Harry-Northern-Lights.html)
the article clearly states she is pictured in January ... as I wasn't there to know when the pictures were taken I have no reason to doubt them ... some people want this wedding to happen so badly without thinking how it would end ... I don't get it as they claim to be Harry's fans ...
^ Just under the major headlines of that piece you've linked, Eri, are several minor statements. The second one down states that the photos in the article were taken in December.
^Eri just click on a link you've posted and the headline is 'Getting in shape for your first holiday together? Meghan Markle hits a yoga class in Toronto ahead of her romantic getaway with boyfriend Prince Harry to see the Northern Lights
Meghan looked in good spirits as she headed to a yoga session
Pictures were taken in December ahead of her first holiday with Prince Harry'
Quote from: TLLK on January 17, 2017, 12:18:02 AM
The Duchess of Cambridge and Princess Charlotte meet Meghan Markle – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/the-duchess-of-cambridge-and-princess-charlotte-meet-meghan-markle-75059)
Not sure how true this story is but here you go. :shrug:
The article mentioned that Harry had pulled out all the stops.
Hopefully that meant Prince Henry had the engagement ring!
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Quote from: vlaxym on January 17, 2017, 01:47:48 PM
^ That photographic evidence of Meghan doing yoga in last week's DM is actually from early December of last year. They couldn't find her in Toronto and they needed a story.
I'm new here btw :blowkiss:
And that basically sums up a lot of articles, just click bait since they have nothing else to write. Seems a shame that a so called newspaper would make things up, and their headline tricks appear to work. As some people just read the headlines but not the updated small note that the pictures were from early December, not January. Seems MM can't win, as some people were blaming her for pap strolling in January when she hadn't.
^To be fair the DM did change the article to say that it was taken in December. It was likely taken in early December before the paps started hanging outside her house because she looks rough and she is not wearing any makeup. Now she wears makeup even to yoga. :lol: She is such a blah and uninspired dresser overall. I waited so long for Harry to get a new girlfriend and *yawn*. Oh well, she likely won't be around long. :hehe:
I was very much inspired by MM's style, that I purchased some of the clothes from her 1st Spring line last year. Long before there was any mention of her on this forum or in regards to PH. :)
Quote from: Lady Deb on January 18, 2017, 12:41:00 AM
I was very much inspired by MM's style, that I purchased some of the clothes from her 1st Spring line last year. Long before there was any mention of her on this forum or in regards to PH. :)
LadyDeb, Meghan is making money from her clothing line? Really?? Awesome!! How do you purchase from her line? Does she sell perfume?
Yale, I don't know how much money the line makes. For many years, I've been a shopper at Reitman's, the Canadian women's clothing store that sells MM's line. It is more of a casual and affordable store for me and I can usually find something to wear for the office or weekend clothes.
I purchase directly in the store and also online, you can also sign up for their mailing list. It was from being on the mailing list that I became aware of MM, last year when the Spring line was 1st released. I'm not aware of any perfume. Her line only had a few items. From the Spring line, the summer maxi dress was my favourite, casual and easy to wear. From the Fall line, all that I was interested in purchasing was the cashmere throw and a blouse. There was also a pleather skirt and pants, but those items are not my style.
My theory is that Meghan's team leaks these little tidbits of news like "She meets just Prince Charles", "She meets Prince William", "Goes on romantic vacation" or meet "Kate and Charlotte but no George" in order to flood news & magazines whenever media does some embarrassing expose on her past or whenever her family pulls some crazy, humiliating antics. Just think about it, notice the trend from September till now and how the news are coming out. :blink: And it doesn't even makes sense for her to meet Charles w/o Camilla or William in fact, if it was his birthday party. Wouldn't Will & Kate celebrate Harry's birthday? Or where is prince George when she met Charlotte? stuck at home w/ the nanny coz he was naughty? I mean they're neighbors, wouldn't she get a glimpse & wave from George by looking out the window? :blowkiss:
They're probably saving "Meghan meets Prince George" next for when some bad story gets exposed. The motherload would be "Meghan goes on vacay w/ Harry & the Grandparents!". :teehee:
:hehe:I guess my cynical self is having loads of laugh and fun at how silly this whole progress is. And how tabloids and magazines are moulding people's outlook of her.
It's both teams leaking; the latest with Inge Harry's friend, is team KP.
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What I mean by "leaking" is with the instruction /permission of Meghan.
ON Harry's side, I'm sure there are acquaintances who can't keep their mouth shut. (I'd like to think his close friends are more loyal though) But I do hope it doesn't have the official approval of Kensington Palace's advisors. (I'd like to think they're smarter & try to protect Harry's public image) Because those leaked news aren't smart moves and paint the prince in a bad light. Especially all those "expensive romantic vacation" news.... one after the other, doesn't look good on Harry especially in these times when lots of people are living hard lives.
I'm not a Meghan fan, but what I think is right, I will speak my mind. She has no power whatsoever to give any permission to estranged family members to speak truth or crap about her; selling their stories and very old pictures to the tabloids.
Harry's pr team can do as much possible with his royal duty image, but his personal choices are his, they can't tell him at this time and age whom and what to do. They can advise, at the end of the day, it's his choice to vacation plenty or not with his girlfriend.
ETA: I think it's good Harry has character, good or bad decisions are learning curves everyone has and does during their lifetime. If his pr team treats him with kid gloves forever...fill in the blank, most likely he will be deemed an idiot at the grand old age.
I think all the young royals (William, Harry and Kate are treated with kid gloves).
The DM has a story about Meghan returning from the charity conference she has been attending in Mumbai. There are photos of her at the airport. Wonder whether she will be going to London or Toronto? There are rumours that she has refused to participate in promoting Suits like the rest of her cast mates (promotion that is starting this week) because of the inevitable questions from journalists.
Just the fact that MM knows PH has given the show Suits a lot of free promotion already. Except for her Canadian cast mate that got married in December, it has been MM that has done the most whether intended or not for promoting Suits recently.
And some wonder why people don't like her ... everything about her comes out as fake and she seems to be desperate to show off a "persona" that she is not as a result the two don't match and that is why she is so despised ... even by her own sister ... too bad for her and her PR team her true colors came out since Day 1 and what we saw can't be unseen ...
You and others depise her . We get it. But what does it change?
Not a thing! Harry couldn't care how you and any others feel.
Ya know, I really believe some you think Harry will see these comments and break up with Meghan as a result. I mean, that is how some of your posts read. It's funny.😃😃
I really like how PH and MM have been able to keep to themselves. Some newspapers have printed constant fake, rubbish articles that seem to have been made up just to get a view clicks and feed the gullible. From the amount of articles written one would think that PH and MM have been seen together everyday, and that is not the case at all.
Personally, I would be embarrassed as a reporter to attach my name to an article such as MM's 'estranged brother wants an invitation to the wedding', or some of the other sexist and racist articles that have written. Meanwhile for months, PH and MM have kept things so private, good for them.
Quote from: wannable on January 22, 2017, 01:29:07 PM
I'm not a Meghan fan, but what I think is right, I will speak my mind. She has no power whatsoever to give any permission to estranged family members to speak truth or crap about her; selling their stories and very old pictures to the tabloids.
I was referring to Meghan's team of lawyers, agents and PR. She's an actress and she has a team. It shouldn't be a surprise that the "insider info" always comes from US Weekly (an American publication). Other news media outlets quote US Weekly like it's the truth when in fact it's a tabloid. So conclusion points that most leaks come from Meghan's side.
With regards to her crazy family, I agree w/ most, it's not her fault to have that kind of family member. I'm sorry she has to deal w/ that. However, it does unjustly reflect badly on her public image. Which will matter to the Royal family, unless Harry gives up his title and lead a more private life like some of his cousins or second cousins.
Yes, IA, these vacations are Harry's choices. Good or bad, he & Meghan made them. But leaking planned vacation, some before it even happens, doesn't look good. Firstly, who knows about these planned vacations? Secondly, there are no confirmations or pictures, but the press knows about them. Which luxury resort they stayed in, what they did, what they saw.... so somebody must be leaking. Logical reasoning points back to Meghan's team. ( I doubt her estranged family members know any of that)
It would be different if they were caught by fellow passengers in an airplane, thus confirming reports. Then I'd have to say that news came out by accident w/o either of their knowledge. But obviously, the way news have been coming out week after week is so calculated and planned, somebody must be playing puppet master.
^ Harry's breakup with Cressida was first reported in People magazine, a US publication. It was reputed at the time that it was given to them to stop grievances about an exclusive being granted to a British tabloid. All the tabs are disliked by the royals but in the event the Telegraph picked it up. Neither Harry nor Cressida had anything to do with that.
It was said at the time of the KP statement about Meghan last year that there was an implicit threat from Jason's team to the more outrageous British tabloids to 'play nice about this or you won't get interviews, access etc in the future' and if not there are always US media outlets.
It was this that is believed to have turned the Daily Fail against the Harry/Meghan romance and has made them snarky about it ever since. So I wouldn't lay my last dollar on the US publications getting first grab on info because of it coming from Meghan's PR team at all. In fact that would be just too blatant, IMO, and Harry, KP and Charles and Clarence House would be on to that mighty quickly.
Also, there is no limit to the imaginations of the British tabloid journalist. We don't know whether Harry and Meghan were cuddled up together under the Northern Lights, or indeed snuggled together in Meghan's Toronto home.
Tabloid Journalists are perfectly capable of googling details of luxury resorts and Toronto hideaways and spinning tales of pure gossamer about it all without the help of PR teams from either side.
I happen to believe that Harry and Meghan are a couple, but haven't shared a holiday yet.
She was at KP for some time and that's about all we know. I certainly think Harry was in Norway, with pals. Not so sure about his girlfriend.
Meghan hasn't spoken about the romance. Neither have her parents. The only two that have at any length are two half siblings Meghan hasn't seen or been in contact with for well over a decade.
If the BRF can survive a future Queen Consort's uncle having *** and stripper parties at Chateau Bang Bang and her cousin who gained momentary fame with a stripper act involving a golden crown, I think it can cope with a rather crazy half sibling on Meghan's side of the family.
NO Twitter or Instagram sightings EVER of Romeo and Juliet even on the rare occasions she has been in London ... she has always made sure we know she is in London when she is indeed in London (she is that desperate) so no excuse for her not being seen in London we know she is anything BUT discrete ... if you ask me he has gotten rid of her back in December and I will stand by my opinion until the two love birds of the Century are actually in the same Continent ...
QuotePrince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle still 'haunted' by family's experience with racism
eghan Markle has recounted a shocking story about her family's experience with racism. The actress shared the painful anecdote with her readers on her lifestyle website The Tig, in honour of Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
Meghan, who has a Caucasian father and an African American mother, recounted a story her grandfather Alvin told her when she was 11. Her grandparents had packed up the car and were going on a road trip from Ohio to California with their three children including their daughter, Meghan's mum.
Read more:
Meghan Markle shares family's experience with racism (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2017011935930/meghan-markle-family-racism-story/)
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QuotePriyanka Chopra opens up about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's relationship
On Wednesday night, Priyanka Chopra took home a People's Choice Award for Favourite TV Drama Actress and after accepting the statue, she spent a few minutes chatting with ET about her pal Meghan Markle. In the short video, the interviewer is overheard asking, "One of your best friends is dating a prince, and I'm wondering, are you in the running to be a royal bridesmaid?"
The 34-year-old's response was short and to the point: "No, but I'm just happy for Meg. And I hope whatever she does, wherever she goes in life, she's always happy."
"But you would be happy being a royal bridesmaid... who wouldn't be happy to be a royal bridesmaid?" questioned the interviewer. Laughing, Priyanka noted, "Well let's not jump the gun, let's give them their space!"
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Priyanka Chopra opens up about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's relationship (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2017012035954/priyanka-chopra-talks-meghan-markle-prince-harry/)
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QuoteMeghan Markle Spends a Week in India on Mission to Help Impoverished Girls
When it comes to a cause, Meghan Markle will switch time zones to lend a helping hand.
E! News has learned the 35-year-old Suits star recently jetted off to India in honor of Wold Vision Canada, an organization that works to support and sponsor children and their families living in poverty around the world.
Markle, who is a Global Ambassador for World Vision, launched her trip in New Delhi, where she traveled to various locations with the organization. She later flew to Mumbai where she was photographed arriving on Saturday. In the airport, Markle kept it casual in a black t-shirt, dark denim and a baseball cap with a jacket swung over one arm and a backpack on one shoulder. However, she did seem to pick up a souvenir along the way as her hand was decorated with henna tattoos.
Read more:
Meghan Markle Spends a Week in India on Mission to Help Impoverished Girls | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/823717/meghan-markle-spends-a-week-in-india-on-mission-to-help-impoverished-girls)
Is any one here, familiar with Viral News? I have them on FB and todays story is that Charles called Prince Harry for a eeting and Charles told him to get rid of Meghan . and " What are you thinking?".. The article says that Prince Harry has had to jilt Meghan and " call off the wedding"... I wish I knew how to give the web site address.. Viral News... Just went back to FB to reread the article. The headline states that poor Prince Harry has jilted Meghan Markle...then goes on to mention the meeting with Charles.. Interesting..
^ What's interesting is how this person from viral news (possibly a US site) knows what Charles said to his son, and the object of their meeting. Was Ms viral news hanging off the chandeliers at Clarence House, or did she disguise herself as a garden gnome in the gardens of Highgrove, lol!
Everyone is speculating at the moment about the state of this romance, because they haven't been seen together lately and Twitter and the media's having hysterics. Two freaky US bloggers have been spreading the news around the internet that Harry and Meghan split just before Xmas. They may have, they may not, but one New Jersey person, now located in the south of the US, and one New York PR person are hardly likely to know the truth any more than the rest of us, or Ms viral news. Royal correspondents, who at least have some contacts inside KP, are insisting that it's a real romance and it's serious.
Harry would listen to Charles and his advice, but I doubt very much indeed that Charles would order his 32 year old son to dump his lover. Consider Charles's own history with the unsuitable Camilla and the fact that Harry has a fortune of at least $12 million. He could in theory freely walk away from the BRF and go and live in Canada with Meghan tomorrow. There's nothing stopping him doing that at all, though I don't believe he ever would.
I know this much. If Harry is in love with Meghan and wants to marry her he'll do it. It won't matter what anybody else says or does, and that includes internet trolls attacking Meghan every day. It won't make one iota of difference IMO. If he's split from her (and I don't believe he has) it will be Harry's decision and his alone. It will be the same if they're dating and if they marry
Yes, I have heard of the theory that KP wants British papers to play nice, else they won't get scoops. Thus, the latest scoops goes to US publications to taunt the British press. But I read that theory from a gossip site, in which one of the writers shares a dermatologists w/ Meghan. So it all goes back to her. That is my way of thinking anyway.
It is also my theory that US publications are desperate to have an American princess to sell more rags, they're always jumping the gun and printing news w/o verification just to be the first and sell it. Denzel Washington just said this in an interview. And that Prinyaka interview was annoying, I'm glad she showed class in answering those reporters.
Back to Harry & Meghan, if they come out officially, their first interview would be British to be sure. So it doesn't make sense to me to warn British tabloids, when the end goal is to make them lovable to the British people. They can sell their popularity to Americans, sure, but American taxes don't support the BRF.
At the end of the day, Harry will do what he want... I kinda agree w/ that. But if he's not careful and take care of his image, he might have to give up his title or live a quieter life. Question is, is that what Meghan envisioned her princess life would be.
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Quote from: Jennifer on January 24, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
QuotePrince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle still 'haunted' by family's experience with racism
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Meghan Markle shares family's experience with racism (http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2017011935930/meghan-markle-family-racism-story/)
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ok. I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but I'm kinda sick of Meghan repeating the mixed-race dilemma. She's the only biracial actress/public figure I know who keeps reiterating that she's biracial & all the racism she's gotten YET she doesn't seem to be actively championing BLM or her African American heritage.
President Barack Obama, Rashida Jones, Jesse Williams (grey's anatomy), Halle Berry, Jennifer Beals, Paula Patton ... know what they have in common... they're biracial. But they're not ashamed to identify themselves as black, because it is part of them. Halle Berry's daughter is 1/4 African American,but she always like to state that my daughter is black. I haven't even listed the half Asians or Latinas in hollywood or professional sports.
To end, I'm just gonna leave this quote from a Paula Patton interview:
BLACK, BIRACIAL, MIXED RACE?
Patton's childhood experiences were similar to those of other biracial women actors such as Thandie Newton (herself an ex-Mission Impossible cast member) and Halle Berry. Like them, she also holds strong views on race and its diversity of classifications. "I find [the word biracial] offensive," Patton stated. "It's a way for people to separate themselves from African Americans....a way of saying, 'I'm better than that.' I'm black because that's the way the world sees me. People aren't calling Barack Obama biracial."
Actress Paula Patton Bio: Ethnicity, Nationality, Parents Race, Mother Joyce, Father Charles (http://www.arogundade.com/paula-pattons-ethnicity-black-biracial-biography.html)
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I'm sorry this is a double post. My bad. I made mistakes and put my own comments in a quote.
ok. I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but I'm kinda sick of Meghan repeating the mixed-race dilemma. She's the only biracial actress/public figure I know who keeps reiterating that she's biracial & all the racism she's gotten YET she doesn't seem to be actively championing BLM or her African American heritage.
President Barack Obama, Rashida Jones, Jesse Williams (grey's anatomy), Halle Berry, Jennifer Beals, Paula Patton ... know what they have in common... they're biracial. But they're not ashamed to identify themselves as black, because it is part of them. Halle Berry's daughter is 1/4 African American,but she always like to state that my daughter is black. I haven't even listed the half Asians or Latinas in hollywood or professional sports.
To end, I'm just gonna leave this quote from a Paula Patton interview:
BLACK, BIRACIAL, MIXED RACE?
Patton's childhood experiences were similar to those of other biracial women actors such as Thandie Newton (herself an ex-Mission Impossible cast member) and Halle Berry. Like them, she also holds strong views on race and its diversity of classifications. "I find [the word biracial] offensive," Patton stated. "It's a way for people to separate themselves from African Americans....a way of saying, 'I'm better than that.' I'm black because that's the way the world sees me. People aren't calling Barack Obama biracial."
Actress Paula Patton Bio: Ethnicity, Nationality, Parents Race, Mother Joyce, Father Charles (http://www.arogundade.com/paula-pattons-ethnicity-black-biracial-biography.html)
Harry can live his life as he wishes without caring what the people who pay for his luxurious lifestyle think sure but if he continues like this he will be just another Andrew and soon ... that is what his uncle has always been guilty of and Harry is following into his footsteps ... as for the status of their so called relationship ... no way it survived all that time with the Royal family and her big mouth /attention seeking family ... he spend New Years Eve with his family and friends and not her ... it ended right there if you ask me ...
^^The theory that KP threatened British tabs with scoops going to US publications goes back to the row over the tabloids going on the attack over William (and Kate's) dullness and lack of work ethic months ago. Richard Palmer moaned on his Twitter page that the Royal family didn't sell newspapers any more. That's when I read it. It may well have been given legs by the fact that Jason K is an American and in charge of PR/Press relations at KP.
Harry can't lose his title. You can't de-prince someone. He was born a Prince of the United Kindom and that's it. Edward VIII, after he abdicated remained as Prince Edward.
Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy, with his family at the centre in the spotlight, in the next reign. Therefore, at least until George reaches his late twenties, Harry will be needed. He can't be retired off because four people, including an elderly King and Queen, just wouldn't be able to do it all. He'll be needed into the new reign and probably William's as well.
^ The American press getting all the "the goods" on the relationship has a lot to do with Megan and her PR giving THEM information ... let's not forget SHE was the one to LEAK the relationship to the press in the first place ... which makes her whining about the attention she so graved hilarious ... I guess she wasn't prepared for the kind of attention she got ...
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
^^The theory that KP threatened British tabs with scoops going to US publications goes back to the row over the tabloids going on the attack over William (and Kate's) dullness and lack of work ethic months ago. Richard Palmer moaned on his Twitter page that the Royal family didn't sell newspapers any more. That's when I read it. It may well have been given legs by the fact that Jason K is an American and in charge of PR/Press relations at KP.
Harry can't lose his title. You can't de-prince someone. He was born a Prince of the United Kindom and that's it. Edward VIII, after he abdicated remained as Prince Edward.
Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy, with his family at the centre in the spotlight, in the next reign. Therefore, at least until George reaches his late twenties, Harry will be needed. He can't be retired off because four people, including an elderly King and Queen, just wouldn't be able to do it all. He'll be needed into the new reign and probably William's as well.
In addition to George, Charlotte will be needed too. She will have the role Harry has now. I am skeptical that Charles can manage this dream of his considering his next in line and his wife are lazy.
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
^^The theory that KP threatened British tabs with scoops going to US publications goes back to the row over the tabloids going on the attack over William (and Kate's) dullness and lack of work ethic months ago. Richard Palmer moaned on his Twitter page that the Royal family didn't sell newspapers any more. That's when I read it. It may well have been given legs by the fact that Jason K is an American and in charge of PR/Press relations at KP.
Harry can't lose his title. You can't de-prince someone. He was born a Prince of the United Kindom and that's it. Edward VIII, after he abdicated remained as Prince Edward.
Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy, with his family at the centre in the spotlight, in the next reign. Therefore, at least until George reaches his late twenties, Harry will be needed. He can't be retired off because four people, including an elderly King and Queen, just wouldn't be able to do it all. He'll be needed into the new reign and probably William's as well.
I agree
@Curryong. Harry will retain his title but about the only thing he could do is remove himself and his descendants from the line of succession. Harry will be a major player in the next reign and should he marry it will include his spouse as well. Quite likely Charles has been studying the European counterparts to see how they manage with a working group of six or less.
"Charles's own history with the unsuitable Camilla"
Have we learnt anything from the last 30 years??? :ugh: The most important qualification for a royal couple is their love for one another or at the very least respect one another enough to stay in that marriage. The so called virgin tests, royal blood tests etc. have brought nothing but misery for the monarchy. I would hope that Charles and Diana will be the last arranged royal wedding. It would be scandalous for Harry to be denied his title simply because he fell in love with a woman that some consider "unsuitable". Meghan is not some serial killer so I really think people might be kind enough to give her a chance.
Charles should worry about the scaled down monarchy not because of marrying his mistress, but his second wife has not done as much as the others and I think will step down from duties. Also William, Harry, and Kate have not shown themselves powerhouses in the work department. Charles may have to rethink this. That said. Charles and Diana did not have an arranged marriage. An example of one is when George IV when Prince of Wales married Caroline of Brunswick. Papers were signed and he needed the money so he got a "dowry" from her. He disliked her on sight but did his duty and they had Princess Charlotte. Charles on the other hand courted many ladies before he set his sights on Diana Spencer. He asked her out and she said yes. Both were free to walk. Diana fell in love with him. So no it was no arranged wedding. Plus even if there were an arranged wedding it does not give the man an excuse to cheat. Camilla was in Charles life for years when he was serious about other ladies and when he married his first wife. I think once Camilla was let in, the royals would look like total fools if they forbade Harry to marry. She is a divorcee he is not. Charles and Camilla were both divorced and both had families from their respective first marriages.
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Quote from: TLLK on January 25, 2017, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
^^The theory that KP threatened British tabs with scoops going to US publications goes back to the row over the tabloids going on the attack over William (and Kate's) dullness and lack of work ethic months ago. Richard Palmer moaned on his Twitter page that the Royal family didn't sell newspapers any more. That's when I read it. It may well have been given legs by the fact that Jason K is an American and in charge of PR/Press relations at KP.
Harry can't lose his title. You can't de-prince someone. He was born a Prince of the United Kindom and that's it. Edward VIII, after he abdicated remained as Prince Edward.
Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy, with his family at the centre in the spotlight, in the next reign. Therefore, at least until George reaches his late twenties, Harry will be needed. He can't be retired off because four people, including an elderly King and Queen, just wouldn't be able to do it all. He'll be needed into the new reign and probably William's as well.
I agree @Curryong. Harry will retain his title but about the only thing he could do is remove himself and his descendants from the line of succession. Harry will be a major player in the next reign and should he marry it will include his spouse as well. Quite likely Charles has been studying the European counterparts to see how they manage with a working group of six or less.
Why would Harry even have to think of doing this? Unless he wants out he will be in the line of succession. If Camilla got the HRH and Harry decides on Meghan she would get the HRH too or the royals would look like hypocrites and be laughingstocks.
What is the opposite of a love match? We have to believe that C&D was an arranged marriage or that Diana was lying when said that her husband never loved her at all (courtesy of the Andrew Morton hagiography). These two are mutually exclusive propositions. Charles can't be the ogre that married a woman he never loved in order to have kids and then simultaneously be the ardent suitor who was corrupted by the evil Camilla. Anyway the C&D marriage was a disaster for the Windsors save for the birth of William and Harry. Hopefully they will learn their lessons and give people a chance to find partners they are comfortable with. If Harry loves Meghan then so be it. They will work something out...the monarchy always does, even if it means going back on their vows.
A man "never loving" a wife does not mean it's an arranged marriage. There are marriages on the rebound, marriages for expediency (which I think was what Charles thought of when he married Diana), marriages of convenience and so on. An arranged marriage requires legal contracts, sometimes payment of sums of money from the bride's family and in a lot of cases, they don't meet until shortly before the wedding day. Charles said he never loved Diana. Charles did not have to be an "ogre" to do this, I think he was and is very selfish and self centered and was pampered by his grandmother and surrounded by yes men (he allegedly gets angry when disagreed with). His problem that he thought of what was good for him and not thinking if his wife would not like his idea of marriage. He thought himself so important that he believed Diana would go along with the arrangement. I think he was and is egocentric. Camilla was around Charles for years before he married Diana Spencer. Charles did want heirs and could not have them with Camilla who would need to get a divorce and that was a no no back then. Charles wanted to have his cake and eat it too. Charles did find Lady Diana and asked her out. He was not some helpless baby. He chose to ask her out, he chose to propose and he chose to marry her. It is a cop out IMO for others to be blamed for his own decisions. Charles actually found Camilla years before he met Diana but had many other women as well. I don't think he felt her good enough to have his heirs. His naming her made him obligated to her and after her husband divorced her I think he knew marriage would have to be inevitable. I think he would have married Davina Sheffield had she not had a past (her ex came forward). She might have been able to deal with Camilla in no uncertain terms. I think Diana was used by Charles and the windsors. She was a disposable person to him and he pushed her aside when she had the heir and spare. Charles cheated on his "great love" while married to Diana with Janet Jenkins and other ladies. I think Camilla likes the perks and privileges and knows there can be no second divorce so she's set for life.
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For me the bottom line is: Charles should never have married Diana. It was one of the biggest mistakes of his life. He, his unloved (or "difficult to love" if we are to believe the Dimbley/Junor books) wife and the monarchy paid a very dear price for that decision. In my view what he should have done is marry Camilla back in the day instead of dithering. Alternatively he should have divorced Diana in 1986 when they fell out for good. The next decade after that was a nightmare for them, the country and the monarchy. Anyway that is all water under the bridge. As for Harry and Meghan; I would hope that they are happy and not pushed into living fairy tales that do not exist. That is how the C&D nonsense started with everybody and his uncle declaring that it was a "love match". Totally ridiculous. Charles looked as if he was being sent to his Crucifixion at his wedding and the bride was just a confused teenager being pawned amidst some nasty dynastic games.
But he didn't marry Camilla back in the day. He made the decision not to. He should have had the maturity to move on and not take her on as his married mistress. He got involved with another married Lady Kanga, so he was not "exclusive" with Camilla. Camilla IMO was the last woman standing. Charles and Diana did keep up appearances for years and it was only in the early nineties that the problems were evident to the public (and before the Morton book). Diana's "sin" was complaining about Charles' lifestyle and his friends leaked nasty stories about her ca. the late eighties. It was a love match as far as Diana was concerned. Generally weddings are supposed to be love matches and back then Charles was seen as a prize catch (the public had no inkling of his less than wholesome private life). I don't think William and Harry consider their parents marriage as "nonsense" for obvious reasons. I think the Great Love spin of C and C is nonsense. Once divorced Charles married divorced (other woman) Camilla then it is difficult for the royals to turn down a marriage of a Prince to a divorcee, if it comes to that. If Meghan and Harry want to marry they will. I don't get the "fairy tale" references. If Charles had been halfway decent he would have leveled with Diana before he proposed and if she did not like the set up they could have broken up then and there. then he would not have to sulk at his wedding. What a disgrace
All that is very well Sandy but as long as you base on this premise: Everything that Diana said was true and everything that Charles said was wrong. I rather suspect that Diana was not beyond the temptation to exaggerate her unhappiness or innocence in order to win public sympathy. She did try to destroy Charles and for some time it seemed that she and her allies would succeed... but again the Windsors survived that crisis.
I totally reject the idea that Charles is a monster. He is not and has never been. Neither is Camilla. All Charles did was to marry the wrong woman (for him) and leave the right woman hanging on for years. That is not a mortal sin; Just weak dithering. I for one I am happy that he has had a few years with the woman he truly loves. The fairy tale is the idea that Diana is an angel, Camilla is a witch and Charles is a devil. That is the stuff of fairy tales.
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"they could have broken up then and there"
On that I agree with Sandy entirely. Charles should never have dated, proposed to or married Diana. It was a terrible mistake.
They both said the same thing. Charles said he was with Camilla. Diana said he was. Charles said he did not love Diana. Diana indicated the same thing. Both were on the same page as far as what happened. Dimbleby even used the Morton book as a reference for his book about Charles! The only thing is Diana took responsibility for her part in the divorce (50 percent) Charles never publicly took any of the blame. Charles tried to do a smear campaign on Diana with leaks by his friends to the media before Morton. It's all a matter of public record. Charles always had the upper hand and so did Camilla. Diana managed to share custody of the boys and did not become a "bolter" like her mother. The alleged "right woman" did not "hang on" for years, she married the man she was said to be in love with and had his children. Charles got busy with suitable and unsuitable women and visited Camilla's bed after she married the other man. Charles had his cake and ate it too. I did not say Camilla or Charles were "monsters." I see them as self centered people who deserve each other. The "weak" dithering was destructive too. Charles is not a ditherer when he feels his huge sense of entitlement. BTW, royalanthropologist, I never called those names to the three of them. I blame Charles more because he knew the score and could have put his cards on the table and told Diana what he expected before he proposed. No, the Wales Saga is not the stuff of fairy tales, it's the stuff of sordidness.
"the Wales Saga is not the stuff of fairy tales, it's the stuff of sordidness"
That is one of the most apt description of that marriage and the events that followed it. I hope to God neither Harry nor Meghan has to ever go through that.
Look what happened to the "spare" Andrew and Fergie. It was called a real love match and they were "made for each other"and Charles and the Queen approved of Fergie. And look how that turned out.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 25, 2017, 06:07:38 PM
"Charles's own history with the unsuitable Camilla"
Have we learnt anything from the last 30 years??? :ugh: The most important qualification for a royal couple is their love for one another or at the very least respect one another enough to stay in that marriage. The so called virgin tests, royal blood tests etc. have brought nothing but misery for the monarchy. I would hope that Charles and Diana will be the last arranged royal wedding. It would be scandalous for Harry to be denied his title simply because he fell in love with a woman that some consider "unsuitable". Meghan is not some serial killer so I really think people might be kind enough to give her a chance.
:goodpost: And I'll add to that compatible personalities, a supportive partnership and shared interests would be indicators of a sound marriage. IMO this is why we've seen the younger generation looking for partners outside of the reigning/non-reigning royal and princely houses because their parents were unhappy in their marriages.
^ I meant by that remark in my post about unsuitability that Camilla was seemingly regarded by the grey men at BP to be unsuitable for the young Charles, when they were both single. It's been stated in countless biographies that Charles had to have a virginal bride, not one with a past.
It has been said that Camilla had had many boyfriends and would therefore have been thought to be unsuitable for a Royal bride in the 1970's. I wasn't referring at all to the Camilla of the 2000's. Sorry I didn't make myself clear!
Quote from: sandy on January 16, 2017, 12:24:27 PM
Well look at Uncle Gary's antics. William still married Kate. I don't see this as Karma, if these two want to get married they will. The brother would be marginalized as Uncle Gary was. Harry and Cressida broke up and it's over. How they treated each other is known only to them.
I believe the difference in the two issues, is that Uncle Gary is rich and likely gave his sister and husband a helping hand. Where as I somehow feel that Meghan's family are not wealthy, nor have travelled in more sophisticated company, as Uncle Gary has through his money friends.
Uncle Gary was apparently advised to have a lower profile after he gave the indiscreet interview with the press about how William and Kate visited the Case de bang bang. William even had to stage a photo op with Kate to show all was well, Uncle Gary's interview was not enthusiastically received to say the least.
I just want to point out regarding Meghan that she is an ambitious actress who has been in the business for several years and that publicity and getting it, has been her top priority to achieve success and being known in the industry. She was married and divorced and then had a steady (live - in??) boyfriend until Prince Harry showed his interest, and suddenly she was FREE from the boyfriend. IF this romance fades off ( and I personally hope it does, cause when the break up comes, I feel Prince Harry will be devastated) , she'll have had world wide publicity all because of her connection to Harry. IF they marry (God forbid) or not, she has had millions of dollars in advertising and publicity. IMO, of course!
Quote from: Curryong on January 25, 2017, 09:33:15 PM
^ I meant by that remark in my post about unsuitability that Camilla was seemingly regarded by the grey men at BP to be unsuitable for the young Charles, when they were both single. It's been stated in countless biographies that Charles had to have a virginal bride, not one with a past.
It has been said that Camilla had had many boyfriends and would therefore have been thought to be unsuitable for a Royal bride in the 1970's. I wasn't referring at all to the Camilla of the 2000's. Sorry I didn't make myself clear!
Charles gave a first hand account of this to his biographer DImbleby. He said he met Camilla when he was"too young" to marry and Charles did not give any indication that they had a future. I maintain that Charles himself did not consider her suitable back then to marry and be the mother of his heirs. I don't think Charles was ever told not to marry her. He did not even try and agreed apparently with his Great Uncle that Camilla was to be mistress material. Charles did not push to marry her back then.
Quote from: sandy on January 26, 2017, 12:26:08 AM
Uncle Gary was apparently advised to have a lower profile after he gave the indiscreet interview with the press about how William and Kate visited the Case de bang bang. William even had to stage a photo op with Kate to show all was well, Uncle Gary's interview was not enthusiastically received to say the least.
I do recall he disappeared from the media attention and believe Carole must have given him a sibling talking to. He knew what was expected of him after that interview . I somehow can't see Meghan's family towing the line as Uncle Gary did..
Quote from: Kate on January 26, 2017, 12:27:08 AM
I just want to point out regarding Meghan that she is an ambitious actress who has been in the business for several years and that publicity and getting it, has been her top priority to achieve success and being known in the industry. She was married and divorced and then had a steady (live - in??) boyfriend until Prince Harry showed his interest, and suddenly she was FREE from the boyfriend. IF this romance fades off ( and I personally hope it does, cause when the break up comes, I feel Prince Harry will be devastated) , she'll have had world wide publicity all because of her connection to Harry. IF they marry (God forbid) or not, she has had millions of dollars in advertising and publicity. IMO, of course!
Well Kate Middleton had a boyfriend when she met William and the boyfriend was history not long after. She set her sights on William. I think she'd have to quit acting if she marries Harry. Sophie kept on her lower profile career but had to quit because of the fake sheikh interview. I think the PR will be pointless if she marries one of the most famous people on the planet.
As for Uncle Gary, I think Meghan's family would also tow the line. Hillary Clinton's brothers all but disappeared after the scandal of selling pardons. Relatives can be agreeable to save embarrassment for their famous relative.
In mid January Richard Palmer tweeted about the Harry/MM romance on his Twitter Page. He remarked that there was concern in Royal quarters about the antics of several members of Meghan's family. However, he stated, 'Harry's happiness is paramount'.
Palmer has contacts within KP and is generally non-hysterical when reporting on the BRF. As someone who has followed the BRF for more decades than I care to remember, I believe his assertions are correct. I have picked up some idea over the years about how members of the royal family react in certain situations. Therefore the faint hope that some on Twitter have that Charles or the Queen are going to step in and order Harry to drop Megham is extremely ill-founded. Sorry, Miss Video News and those who believe the British monarchy will topple as a result of this possible wedding!
Since Prince William of Gloucester was discouraged from his romance with a foreign divorcee back in the late 1960's, there has not been one single instance of the Queen or the Prince of Wales or any other Royal person strong-arming any family member about their love life.
Any concern is about Meghan's family, not about her, and remember she has not spoken one word about this relationship. Also, if Harry wishes to marry her then, if what Palmer wrote is correct, his relatives will accept that decision, Ms Video News not withstanding.
By the way, I see that one of the two chief anti-MM bloggers has retired from the fray today. The heat too intense in that New York kitchen? Or perhaps she sees that in spite of her daily rantings about the matter neither Harry nor Meghan have issued any break-up statements and are still in contact with each other in spite of her assertions otherwise.
Or just perhaps she is retiring from Twitter/her blog because she has just an inkling now that she may have been incorrect all along about their breaking up. This way she can be well clear of the avalanche of abuse her little Twitter followers will unleash, if there's an engagement later. Good luck to her New Jersey mate too!!
I understand and agree with the point of view expressed by
@Curryong. The attitudes of the men in grey suits was just atrocious. On one hand the bride must be pure but on the other the man can be used goods with no problem. :hehe:
BTW someone mentioned the unfortunate Sarah Ferguson. I will just repeat this icy comment by a courtier. "Great girl...just doesn't know how to be a princess". Sarah never intentionally tried to harm or destroy her husband and his family. That is why they still get on after the divorce and the queen is willing to indulge Sarah even after all those scandals.
QuoteI will just repeat this icy comment by a courtier. "Great girl...just doesn't know how to be a princess"
Sadly Sarah doesn't know how to be an adult IMHO. :(
Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 26, 2017, 04:32:23 AM
I understand and agree with the point of view expressed by @Curryong. The attitudes of the men in grey suits was just atrocious. On one hand the bride must be pure but on the other the man can be used goods with no problem. :hehe:
BTW someone mentioned the unfortunate Sarah Ferguson. I will just repeat this icy comment by a courtier. "Great girl...just doesn't know how to be a princess". Sarah never intentionally tried to harm or destroy her husband and his family. That is why they still get on after the divorce and the queen is willing to indulge Sarah even after all those scandals.
Oh but she did. With her cavorting topless and also her boyfriend shown with Fergie and baby Beatrice in a photo and embarrassing her husband and his family. Andrew was more of a gentleman than his brother and did not have his pals trash Fergie to the media. He never intentionally hurt his wife and put her down in public the way Charles did with his wife. And he did not have a "special friend" around." The Yorks divorce was very civil because I think Andrew was genuinely fond of his wife. Charles found his an annoyance and he made it plain to all and sundry via his biographer that he married Diana to have heirs and love had nothing to do with it. Andrew is not perfect but he treated his wife kindly. I would not call Fergie "indulged." She is left out of royal events most of the time and is rarely seen with them. Andrew Parker Bowles got an invite to William's wedding but Fergie didn't. Shows the royal mindset.
I am going to be a devil's advocate here
@sandy. Sarah was not the most faithful wife or even the most controlled but at no point did she ever threaten the succession or even the institution. I know the DOE hates her but the Queen seems rather fond of her, something of a secret indulgence. I understand she has recently appeared on the court circular and sometimes uses royal palaces for her event. Not inviting her to W&C wedding was very mean and illogical. This was a former daughter-in-law with living children and a civilized relationship with her former husband. As for APB, I think that the royal family actually likes him personally. He was a silver stick in waiting, dated Princess Anne and has been a very compliant cuckold. That is why they were happy to invite him at Ascot even during the release of the Andrew Morton book.
Diana did not threaten the succession. She had no real power and she never said Charles was incompetent to be King. She said the top job would put limitations on him. Diana was dispensable to them. I don't think the Queen is fond of Fergie, I think it is more tolerating her. She was fond of her at the very beginning but that turned sour rather quickly. They actually invited Camilla AND Andrew to Ascot in 1992, they were still married and Charles friends denied there was an intimate relationship between Charles and Camilla. Charles spilling the beans in 1994 made it impossible for Andrew PB to continue the happily married facade. Morton only referred to Camilla as Charles "friend". The Queen could have overturned whoever made the decision about Fergie (if it was not the Queen who engineered it) and invited her to William's wedding. Leaving out Diana from the equation, Charles threatened the monarchy by his admission of an affair (he became very unpopular) and the question of how he would marry Camilla and still be Head of the Church was another big issue for him. He ended up marrying Camilla in a civil ceremony.
" If I could write my own script; my husband would go away with his lady and leave me and my children to continue the Wales name".
"What I want is my husband's peace of mind and from that follows certain things, yes" in response to a Bashir suggestion about skipping a generation.
If that is not threatening the succession then I do not know what is.
It was wishful thinking on Diana's part. She could say she hoped Charles would disappear for good but she had no power whatsoever. Charles' sympathizers and relatives said a whole lot more damaging stuff about Diana, even after she died. She did not say Charles was incompetent nor organized protests against him. She said the top job would put limitations on him. Charles pals called Diana "damaged" "mentally ill" and so forth and made him and Camilla look like saints. Junor in her biography about Harry assailed Diana for being a "bad mother" and Junor is close to Charles and Camilla. Diana did not say the first sentence in the Bashir interview BTW and Bashir is considered to be the prime reference for Diana's attitude re: Charles. Charles said a lot of damaging things about his own parents the year before to his biographer which I find more of a threat. Charles got lambasted by the media for his whining. I would say Charles did more to damage the monarchy by his words and actions.
The first sentence in your quote came from Morton's private tapes which were not released in Diana's lifetime so the only public statements came from Bashir which did not question Charles' competency
So... no new news regarding Prince Harry and Meghan... 4 days since there was a comment. Hopefully, (I hope) the relationship is petering off. Maybe Prince Harry even read some of the comments here and in the newspapers, and has seen the light...Perhaps if Meghan had been anything other then an actress, as a couple, they may have survived.. Too too much publicity (good for her), which as an actress she would love, but then her family got in on it....and that may have been that!
^ If Harry and Meghan are still together, and I believe they're still in touch, they are hardly likely to be seeing each other at the start of the new season of Suits beginning on TV. The cast has been tweeting about it and holding interviews in Totonto and elsewhere to publicise it.
Harry has learned his lesson from what Chelsy and Cressida had to go through due to dating him, and any meetings, dates etc in the future are likely to be extremely low key, in secret locations and may be overseas or in parts of Britain where they are not likely to be disturbed.
I don't believe Harry takes guidance for his life and who he dates from people venting in the DM or on Twitter and Tumblr (thank God Twitter's dying.) These are people who don't know him, don't know her, don't know about the restrictions of dating as a Royal but take every opportunity they can to vent and criticise to their heart's content, anonymously from their computer or cell phone.
If he and Meghan have split, his and/or her decision. If they continue dating, same thing, if they marry, the same. It's absolutely absurd that people online or on the internet think they have the right to dictate who a person should date or marry, and Harry's reaction to the hysteria that has gone on since November would be, IMO, exactly what you would expect any sane person's to be.
^ I have seen no "hysteria" about Megan nothing Cressida, Kate or even Flee didn't get ... I also don't think people think while EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION it will effect Harry's decisions in any way they are just EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION ... if you ask me Megan is long gone ... so the people who don't like her will be pretty happy soon ... no way this would have been a along term thing anyways ... I have been saying this all along she is his transition girl into his next serious girlfriend and that won't be a middle aged divorce ...
I don't think Meghan is a transitional girl, quite the opposite. She's very different from Harry's other girlfriends. She is 35, is intelligent, Has life experience, She will hardly let Harry escape. The only thing I think might ruin the relationship, is she want to keep acting career
^ ^ Well, Eri, all that I can say to you is that what I have seen in the last few months on behalf of some anonymous posters on Twitter, Tumblr and Forums has amounted to what I regard as full blown hysteria. Cress got it pretty bad but Meghan has had it far worse. It was so bad on RD that the whole thread had to be locked until there is an engagement, if there is one. That forum has been going for nearly a decade and it has never happened before, where Harry's girlfriends were concerned.
One board helper who had been at that forum for years stated to me that she knew that when Harry looked as if he seriously might get married that all hell would break loose. And it did.
Some Harry Tumblr sites were under such attack for a while that several of the operators threatened to close. Two overseas bloggers in particular have taken it upon themselves to spread such scandalbutt against Meghan that it's a good job for them that they can't be sued for libel. Several hundred anons have been absolutely glorifying in it all.
I've been on the Internet and posted on various forums and lurked on blogs and Twitter sites for years and I have honestly never seen anything like it. If Meghan had been an axe murderer she couldn't have been slandered more. Yes, people expressed their opinion, all right.
^ Again ... nothing Cressida or even Pipps (who is an outsider) haven't gotten during the Years ... at certain forums it can get pretty nasty even now about Cressida and her whole family especially her mother and brother that were treated as mass murderers ... while Megan's brother gets arrested for holding a gun on someone's head and it's treated like it's normal ... so don't give me that ... Megan has been treated with satin gloves if anything because if you dare to say anything about her suddenly you are a racist :thumbsdown: ... she wanted the attention LEAKING the relationship in the first place ... well she got it ... I wouldn't cry for her ... this woman would die if suddenly people stopped talking about her that is why she has Twitter and Instagram ... by the way a mortal sin when it came to poor Cressida ... if anything again ... she is treated very well compared to Cressida who still for reasons unknown gets bashed and named called ... imagine if Jacobi had given the interviews Megan's classless family have given ... he would have been hanged on Boards like this ...
Meghan is online because The Tig is another source of income. She's an actress and so, like most other people in show business, she also uses Twitter to communicate with her fans. She has never mentioned Harry on either IG or Twitter, never given an interview mentioning him and has stopped virtually every comment on The Tig which might be considered controversial in any way, shape or form. She certainly doesn't use Twitter for huge amounts of her own PR. She's hardly been on there for weeks.
^ I think it's amazing I find here the ONLY two fans of a woman who is despised by her OWN SISTER ... this woman cheated on her living in partner to upgrade to a Prince , brought in plenty of drama with lawyers in Town on Day one of this "relationship" , she has managed to have people call for Harry's Title to be revoked because she got him to put an IGNORANT statement out there and has a family that makes the Midds look classy ...plenty of reasons people have voiced their unhappiness with her ... again ... Cressida and her family wouldn't and didn't survive half of the things Megan and her family did ...hopefully it is over but she has done so much damage I can't see Harry recover she has managed to make him the new Andrew ... I don't think people will view Harry the same ever again ... he is so done and it is all thanks to her ... he would have to keep his head down and another 3 Years single to improve the current mess he is in ...
"this woman cheated on her living in partner to upgrade to a Prince"
Ha ha
@Eri. I think it runs in the family. There is at least one current member of the royal family who fits that statement to a T :hehe:
Quote from: Eri on February 01, 2017, 05:32:25 PM
^ I think it's amazing I find here the ONLY two fans of a woman who is despised by her OWN SISTER ... this woman cheated on her living in partner to upgrade to a Prince , brought in plenty of drama with lawyers in Town on Day one of this "relationship" , she has managed to have people call for Harry's Title to be revoked because she got him to put an IGNORANT statement out there and has a family that makes the Midds look classy ...plenty of reasons people have voiced their unhappiness with her ... again ... Cressida and her family wouldn't and didn't survive half of the things Megan and her family did ...hopefully it is over but she has done so much damage I can't see Harry recover she has managed to make him the new Andrew ... I don't think people will view Harry the same ever again ... he is so done and it is all thanks to her ... he would have to keep his head down and another 3 Years single to improve the current mess he is in ...
Well didn't Kate Middleton go for an upgrade when she got to St. Andrew's? She was seeing somebody and they (conveniently) broke up.
Who has the power to demote Harry? People on discussion boards with idle gossip? I doubt it.
Lots of people seem to like Meghan too. Maybe her sister is being a jerk
^ He is a jobless , lazy adult who would be a nobody if it wasn't for who his father is ... if he doesn't want to listen to the public who pays for his lifestyle that's fine by me but he better prepare to be the new Andrew ... you are more than welcome to link me a site or blog who has anything nice to say about this woman ...
He has a job, as senior royal. Why would he listen to the public if he wants to marry Meghan or anybody else? It's is choice and he's not going to survey the public to see if he should marry a specific person...or not. I see nice things said about this woman on this board and on others. She is not some sort if villain or anything like that.
^^ Well, Eri, The Royal Forums Harry threads have reasonable and balanced views, as does this Forum. Heavy is the Crown is also a balanced Tumblr. The public doesn't actually pay for Harry's lifestyle at all, by the way, except for his security detail, which is heavy, as he is a target, who served in Afghanstan.
The only royals who get direct funding from the taxpayer are the Queen and Prince Philip. Harry is not a slave. Harry can and probably does take note of public moods, but the public is fickle and nobody should be obligated to give up a lover because of dislike of the prospective partner (especially by the rabble on DM and on Twitter sites) unless they are completely unsuitable, murderer, *** star, prostitute, something of that nature.
Prince Harry & Meghan Markle May Be Taking Their Relationship to a New Level | CafeMom (http://thestir.cafemom.com/celebrities/202957/prince_harry_meghan_markle_may)
Pay close attention to the fact that people saw RPO's at Harry's favorite ski location scouting the area prior to their arrival.
^ Didn't they supposedly already gone to Verbier last month? Recycled news? Slow news week???? :orchid:
Quote from: sandy on February 02, 2017, 12:24:22 AM
He has a job, as senior royal. Why would he listen to the public if he wants to marry Meghan or anybody else? It's is choice and he's not going to survey the public to see if he should marry a specific person...or not. I see nice things said about this woman on this board and on others. She is not some sort if villain or anything like that.
Says the one who bashed Cressida away ... mind blowing ... working when he feels like it if we can call it work is not a job by the way ... let us not offend people who actually work ... in 2 years time Harry will stop being young and his fading looks will be completely gone and then the public will be heard and it won't be pretty ... just ask Andrew who was in Harry's position and can't do anything right since he was in his 40's ... Harry is of no importance he is an irrelevant Royal who asks the public to found his luxurious lifestyle so the woman he marries is very important and will either be the making of him or will make him the new Andrew ... by the way he lives at KP and tax payers pay his security whenever he feels like taking his next luxurious vacation so some better not give the "he isn't founded by the public" nonsense :thumbsdown: ...
Quote from: Eri on February 01, 2017, 11:31:06 PM
^ He is a jobless , lazy adult who would be a nobody if it wasn't for who his father is ... if he doesn't want to listen to the public who pays for his lifestyle that's fine by me but he better prepare to be the new Andrew ... you are more than welcome to link me a site or blog who has anything nice to say about this woman ...
Well those on a sites and blogs who comment on her don't know her personally. I don't know her so I can't say anything positive or negative about her character. But the amount of hate she's getting on internet is outstanding. If she's good for Harry she should be good to us. Unless we know something about her the public don't it's not OK to bully her on internet really.
Quite strangely, I think that fundamentally Harry is a much better person that William. At least I do not get the feeling that he is manipulative and sleek like his brother. Harry has been in the army and he does quite a bit of charity. The royal family opened a can of worms when they first started marrying commoners from within the kingdom. This is precisely what made marriage impossible for Elizabeth I. She being the brilliant politician and strategist that she was, recognized precisely the dangers of marrying a commoner. First of all their family begin to develop delusions of grandeur which could potentially lead to treacherous ambitions (see Spencers). Secondly they could be social climbers who just do not know how to behave in that position (See Ferguson, Middletons etc.). Finally they could be unacceptable to the public who expect their royalty to be special and elevated in some way (see Meghan and Camilla). Had Harry proposed marriage to a foreign princess (e.g Madeline or even better Victoria of Sweden); there would be no issues at all. He would have a new kingdom as a royal consort and there would be no competition. Now the family is stuck with the likes of Beatrice and Eugiene who are bound to make unsuitable marriages.
I'm going completely off topic here, nothing new for me! We don't know whether Elizabeth I was willing or eager to share her monarchical powers with any male, foreign or English. She was wary of marriage for all sorts of reasons, IMO. However, as a young woman she was greatly attracted to Robert Dudley. He was ambitious but also, I believe, attracted to Elizabeth. We don't know what would have happened had Robert been a bachelor and not hitched to Amy Robsart. Her ministers would have disapproved but in this instance Elizabeth might just have followed her heart. By the way, she, one of the greatest of England's monarchs, had a mother who was a commoner.
But you are not off topic at all
@Curryong. We are discussing potential royal spouses (Meghan) so your contribution is quite relevant. I think that the heart said Dudley but again the Spencer-type problem arose because he had ambitions of getting a crown matrimonial. Eric of Sweden was considered to be a good match (young, protestant, handsome and with a kingdom); however he was seriously mentally ill. The brain probably (and perhaps wisely) told her not to marry at all which is pity because the Stuarts were terrible for Britain. The Kingdom missed the courage and intelligence of the Tudors, although they were undoubtedly tyrants. Elizabeth was blessed with an uncommonly intelligent mother and father. Apparently her intellectual capabilities startled her tutors.
Finally something new
Prince Harry spotted holding hands with girlfriend Meghan Markle on date in London as pals claim TV star lover has 'virtually moved in' with him (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2772449/prince-harry-meghan-markle-world-exclusive-pictures-date-london/)
Well there we go. Apart from the silly blue hat - it is clear for all to see - he is proud of his girlfriend and seems happy to show her. Unlike you know-who-who!
Haven't seen a picture of him walking beside his girlfriend since they Chelsy days! This is great!!!
I am so excited! They have been together in London all this time!! I love it! And from what I hear they are on their way for a second vacation before Meghan has to return to work.
I think it might be possible that they are already engaged just keeping it a secret. If not, I am betting on this Spring.
PH and MM look adorable together! Lovely that they have been able to spend lots of quiet time developing their relationship while still taking part in their individual commitments.
I was happy that MM was able to go on her charitable trip to India, especially when she had prepared for and committed to it. Harry's public events on Wednesday and Thursday have continued to bring attention to important causes and have also been well attended by the general public.
Quote from: Eri on February 02, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
Quote from: sandy on February 02, 2017, 12:24:22 AM
He has a job, as senior royal. Why would he listen to the public if he wants to marry Meghan or anybody else? It's is choice and he's not going to survey the public to see if he should marry a specific person...or not. I see nice things said about this woman on this board and on others. She is not some sort if villain or anything like that.
Says the one who bashed Cressida away ... mind blowing ... working when he feels like it if we can call it work is not a job by the way ... let us not offend people who actually work ... in 2 years time Harry will stop being young and his fading looks will be completely gone and then the public will be heard and it won't be pretty ... just ask Andrew who was in Harry's position and can't do anything right since he was in his 40's ... Harry is of no importance he is an irrelevant Royal who asks the public to found his luxurious lifestyle so the woman he marries is very important and will either be the making of him or will make him the new Andrew ... by the way he lives at KP and tax payers pay his security whenever he feels like taking his next luxurious vacation so some better not give the "he isn't founded by the public" nonsense :thumbsdown: ...
I did not think Cressida and Harry had a future and Harry did not seem interested in her, rushing ahead of her when they were together (she also would glare at him--it did not look like a match made in heaven).
I reported my impressions. In any case, they broke up and it's over. So why rehash it. Possibly it was a mutual decision and maybe both are better off than if they "settled".
Harry has a job, a senior royal. I agree that Harry, William and Kate should be doing a lot more. But they do have work as senior royals.
Harry is not irrelevant, the Queen and Charles made it clear he will be a part of the scaled down monarchy. If you want to disagree with them, go right ahead.
Prince Albert is no Adonis but he managed to marry an attractive younger woman and settled down. The Windsors are not exactly the best looking people in the world. They don't generally age well.
I think it is mind blowing that you make such statements to me when you "bash" Meghan on a daily basis.
If they want to marry it's their choice. Cressida at one point went in for arguably more PR than Meghan does now. She was in the tabs almost on a daily basis.
The body language is so different with Meghan and Harry. He is solicitous with her and stays with her. He would rush ahead of Cressida like he didn't want to be seen with her. Cressida should not have stayed in such a relationship if Harry seemed lukewarm when he was with her. Both were very right to move on.
Some here posted a few days ago that maybe Harry had come to his senses and broke it off with her because there was no news on them. Well, so much for that theory. LOL!
The two self-styled Twitter Queens, who have been spreading scandal about Meghan all over the Internet via their little followers, stated categorically that it was all over in December. They have an interesting reaction just now to the Sun photos. They were taken in December, according to them, and it's all a setup by MM. !!! Look dears, get a life! You were so wrong about this romance and you've both got egg all over your faces, enough to make six dozen omelettes!
I hope Harry and Meghan had a great date night and we may see a Spring engagement. :crazylove:
It's sad that PRINCE Harry can't do better than a middle aged divorce with a problematic family who isn't that attractive ... she will be the undoing of him the way Sarah was Andrew's ... his funeral ... I will be here enjoying the show ... Harry is an idiot who deserves all that WILL happen to him ... he is a not too smart spoiled daddy's boy who had it all handed to him dangerous combination that we are about to witness the results of ...
Thirty five certainly isn't middle aged, theres been no contact for decades between Meghan and her problem relatives, and if Harry had everything handed to him he certainly wouldn't have started Sentabale and the Invictus Games himself, or served in a war zone in an Apache helicopter.
Lmao Middle aged for a woman isn't 35 and she is a beautiful woman but say what you will to make yourself feel better.
Quote from: Curryong on February 03, 2017, 11:14:19 AM
Thirty five certainly isn't middle aged, theres been no contact for decades between Meghan and her problem relatives, and if Harry had everything handed to him he certainly wouldn't have started Sentabale and the Invictus Games himself, or served in a war zone in an Apache helicopter.
Harry has had everything handed to him including his Military carer because of who his father is that is a fact I can't believe we are even discussing ... as for this "relationship" it will end in tears and I will be here with my popcorn ... everyone believe I am against an eventual marriage between those two but to the contrary I say bring it on ... that would be something ... a gift to Royal watchers for decades to come like the York's marriage was ...
lovely couple! Meghan looks beautiful in these pictures with Harry. I bet on an engagement this year too. :wub: :consoling1: :consoling1: :hug: :hug:
Quote from: Eri on February 03, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
It's sad that PRINCE Harry can't do better than a middle aged divorce with a problematic family who isn't that attractive ... she will be the undoing of him the way Sarah was Andrew's ... his funeral ... I will be here enjoying the show ... Harry is an idiot who deserves all that WILL happen to him ... he is a not too smart spoiled daddy's boy who had it all handed to him dangerous combination that we are about to witness the results of ...
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Since when is 35 middle aged?
Quote from: sandy on February 03, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: Eri on February 03, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
It's sad that PRINCE Harry can't do better than a middle aged divorce with a problematic family who isn't that attractive ... she will be the undoing of him the way Sarah was Andrew's ... his funeral ... I will be here enjoying the show ... Harry is an idiot who deserves all that WILL happen to him ... he is a not too smart spoiled daddy's boy who had it all handed to him dangerous combination that we are about to witness the results of ...
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Sandy, 35 is not middle aged. We all know this. Consider the source.
Since when is 35 middle aged?
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Quote from: sandy on February 03, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: Eri on February 03, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
It's sad that PRINCE Harry can't do better than a middle aged divorce with a problematic family who isn't that attractive ... she will be the undoing of him the way Sarah was Andrew's ... his funeral ... I will be here enjoying the show ... Harry is an idiot who deserves all that WILL happen to him ... he is a not too smart spoiled daddy's boy who had it all handed to him dangerous combination that we are about to witness the results of ...
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Since when is 35 middle aged?
It's not. Sandy consider the source.
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35 years is not middle age, we are not in the 19th century. And Meghan is beautiful and looks like a decade younger :P
Alleluia!! Now to hear the announcement of the Royal Engagement!!
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35 is when middle age starts technically ... not that is a dirty word ... 46/8 is considered middle aged that doesn't mean being old ... it means you are past the stage you are willing to be a man's child bed warmer ...
Eri, those figures you're quoting come from a recent British survey of adults in the UK. No quoted authority puts middle age as starting at 35. Most have it at 45.
Middle age - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_age)
I think PH and MM make a gorgeous couple! Whether together or apart, I wish them much happiness! I look forward to seeing, IMO, this young in age and young in heart couple develop to their glorious full potential. :blowkiss:
Quote from: Eri on February 04, 2017, 01:21:34 AM
35 is when middle age starts technically ... not that is a dirty word ... 46/8 is considered middle aged that doesn't mean being old ... it means you are past the stage you are willing to be a man's child bed warmer ...
It would be considered Middle age in the 1500s. Not today. I never heard of such "rules." So Harry is under 35 so he's not a "bedwarmer?"
OK. We have a picture of them ....together. Some of us here have been stating for the longest that there is no picture.
OK,now what??
Carry on...next excuse to say they are not a couple?
Hallelujah, Will and Kate have been so deathly dull and boring it will be fab just to have someone interesting and with a spark of life to her. I doubt she will shy away from work and speeches, hopefully they'll reinvigorate some interest in the RF. They may both have their faults but the RF has long needed an injection of life to it. The Lamebridges have been such a disappointment, here's hoping these two aren't.
The next few Months will be interesting ... she will have to move to London if she doesn't want to read about Harry and other girls soon ... but ... moving to London might be a dangerous move as Harry won't like a ball and chain being in the way of his Friday nights the appeal in this relationship for him lays in the fact she far away most of the time ...
Is it possible for a royal to date someone without the papers leapfrogging them into marriage and a quick divorce afterwards???? :teehee: Anyway I hope Harry and Meghan are having fun
Quote from: Eri on February 04, 2017, 09:04:41 AM
The next few Months will be interesting ... she will have to move to London if she doesn't want to read about Harry and other girls soon ... but ... moving to London might be a dangerous move as Harry won't like a ball and chain being in the way of his Friday nights the appeal in this relationship for him lays in the fact she far away most of the time ...
Maybe it could just be that Harry and Meghan are in a great relationship now. Harry won't think she's "dangerous" IMO.
I love the way Meghan and Harry look together they look comfortable and totally at ease. That said however, it looks like they are conducting their relationship on the down low away from the media and letting it develop. I hope this relationship as it seems now develops into the family and home Harry so desires and to the catty commenter's get over yourselves Harry has obviously found the one.
Harry is 32 years old, I'm sure he will not want to wait too long. His brother is married, his friends are also, he wants to form a family, I bet they will still get engaged this year :hug: :hug:
Awww, these pics made me smile. Honestly, we really don't know what the future will hold for them but they look so comfortable and n'sync with each other. Harry has not looked this relaxed since his days with Chelsy. Everything is all so sweet and rosy at the beginning of a relationship. I still believe it's still early days and way too soon to be calling Meghan 'the one' but who knows? So for now, just enjoy each others company and keep making happy memories 🤗🤗🤗😘😘😘
If Harry does decide to get marry, to whoever it maybe, I'd be the first in line to congratulate him! I honestly do believe he truly is a nice guy and would make a wonderful father!
^ I will wait for her to move to London and them surviving 2017 before marrying them off ... some are being ridiculous ... there will be no engagement this Year ... not to someone who has a history of divorcing within a Year ...
Quote from: Eri on February 04, 2017, 08:34:19 PM
^ I will wait for her to move to London and them surviving 2017 before marrying them off ... some are being ridiculous ... there will be no engagement this Year ... not to someone who has a history of divorcing within a Year ...
This from a person who said this relationship would be over by December of 2016r?
It's now February.
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Ridiculous is whoever the relationship ends, just for him to return to ex girlfriend he does not even remember anymore :lol: :lol:
All some of you do here is complain about this relationship. But what it is going to change? If Harry wants to marry Meghan, he will do just that. It will not matter to him who disapproves or why. Whether it is too soon or not for an engagement or marriage, it is their decision.
H'es not going to marry her.
I wonder if they'll buy a home in the US if they marry, maybe in Los Angeles?
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The links are not working to post an article. But here is the article link,
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's to make first 'official' outing | Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/585347/prince-harry-meghan-markle-royal-wedding-pippa-m)
Anyways, Harry is adamant about taking Meghan with him to Pippa's wedding in May.
Are PH and Pippa friends though or just acquaintances due to family relationships? I don't know anything about the Daily Star, it looks similar to the Daily Fail and their continuous, annoying click bait articles. I would honestly be surprised if PH was even invited to Pips wedding, much less bring MM along. And since as far as I've read, Pips wedding will be private why would it be considered an official outing? Anyhow IMO, I'd like to see a charity event as an official outing for PH and MM.
^The Star is a sort of low-rent British rag on the lines of the Enquirer. Their credibility is nil, IMO. I think Pippa and Harry are just cordial acquaintances, moving in the same social circles, knowing the same people like the Percys (George Percy was at school with Harry and Uni with Pippa) and perhaps occasionally meeting at Cambridge family events at Anmer and KP. There's never been any sign of Harry and Pippa hanging about together otherwise.
Harry might score an invite to Pippa's wedding for courtesy reasons, who knows, but I doubt he will go, with Meghan or without her. I think it's a bit more likely that Meghan and Harry might turn up to the nuptials of Skippy (Tom Inskip) and his girlfriend Lara in the Caribbean in March. Skip is one of Harry's oldest and closest friends. However, that will depend on whether Meghan has filming or other commitments, I suppose.
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I love our Sapphire Queen in the jewel- like colours she has adopted more and more since Angela Kelly became Royal Dresser. Clear blues, greens, yellows. Fabulous!
If you looking for any kind of confirmation on this stuff, we're not going to get it, ever.
Quote from: amabel on February 05, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
H'es not going to marry her.
Why not? It's up to the couple in any case.
Quote from: sandy on February 02, 2017, 12:24:22 AM
He has a job, as senior royal. Why would he listen to the public if he wants to marry Meghan or anybody else? It's is choice and he's not going to survey the public to see if he should marry a specific person...or not. I see nice things said about this woman on this board and on others. She is not some sort if villain or anything like that.
But wouldn't her motives be suspect to the people? I have a hard time getting past the fact , that being an actress who loves all publicity, is she truly in love or the possibility of marriage to a British Royal ,where she will then be on the world stage and in the news constantly. The fact that she was with a live in boyfriend and chucked him , also could tell a tale of her character.
Well Kate Middleton ditched her boyfriend when she got in proximity of William (at St. Andrew's). She even played to the media to "win William back." Kate also had experience pre William. Kate having a previous BF did not bar her from being a royal. It's a matter of conjecture if this works out.
I understand that Harry pursued her and kept after until she gave into him.
amabel said, " He is not going to marry her."
When exactly did Harry tell you that?
And who really knows when PH and MM started dating and who really introduced them, some sources say they met in May, others June-July? Just because someone has a boyfriend doesn't mean that they have to be getting along, the reason for the break up could have been mutual and nothing to do with PH.
I find it perplexing that MMs character is questioned and not PH. I agree with the statements that he pursued her, because it's not like she could have just run up to his front door at Kensington Palace, ring the doorbell and say here I am. If that was the case then all of the current moaning internet girls who refuse to believe that PH is dating someone other than them could have done the same too.
What I would like to know is when Prince Harry will meet Meghan's mother and father? I read that he meet her dad but nothing about her mother.
Quote from: Yale on February 05, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
All some of you do here is complain about this relationship. But what it is going to change? If Harry wants to marry Meghan, he will do just that. It will not matter to him who disapproves or why. Whether it is too soon or not for an engagement or marriage, it is their decision.
Some don't understand that no one cares what Harry does ... it seems to me some people here care only to have a different "cool" Countess without caring about how she would fit within the Royal Family and how it would all work put IN REALTY ...
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: Yale on February 05, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
All some of you do here is complain about this relationship. But what it is going to change? If Harry wants to marry Meghan, he will do just that. It will not matter to him who disapproves or why. Whether it is too soon or not for an engagement or marriage, it is their decision.
Some don't understand that no one cares what Harry does ... it seems to me some people here care only to have a different "cool" Countess without caring about how she would fit within the Royal Family and how it would all work put IN REALTY ...
Well, some here just fangurls about Meghan w/o knowing her personally. Or gushes about H&M's relationship like its a Hallmark/Disney movie w/o having any confirmed info or insider knowledge. So IMO, everyone can speculate or state their own opinion on them w/o the need to belittle. At the end of the day, everything said here is JUST speculation and opinion anyway. :nod:
I do agree, Harry will do whatever he wants. Meghan will continue to manipulate the situation and win in the end, whether it's a ring or a bigger exposure in the media. JMO. But all of us here are still free to speculate and express our opinion.
And I agree w/
@Eri on this point... basically, when reality sets in .....Meghan's family, muddy relationship history plus the cultural difference will give her a hard time assimilating into the BRF & be accepted by the public. (Btw, I think being popular & being accepted wholly are 2 different things. She could be popular for pop-culture, but acceptance will be hard)
Imagine a big wedding at Westminster, so who's going to sit on the front row to represent Meghan's family? Her dad (I mean, is he done hiding anyway?), her half siblings? any respectable cousins or family to stand on her behalf? Coz some might say they don't matter, but in an archaic institution such as the Monarchy, connections, family, respectability, history... they will all matter.
Maybe if they go slowly, 3-5years and try to revamp her image she'll get there & might not become a liability to Harry. Or else, there's always the option for Harry to lie low and just enjoy the lavish life w/o the limelight (like what the Duke of Windsor & Wallis Simpson did).
^ I agree no matter hat happens he is done and she will win no matter what ... WHEN this is over he will have to lay low for Years ... she has damaged him to no end ...
Harry as the younger sibling may not get the lavish wedding like his brother did in any case. If they want to get married they will make appropriate arrangements at the wedding and work things out. As far as "acceptance" it seems Camilla was and IMO she was a lot more unpopular than Meghan is now. She still got in and her ex husband watched the blessing after the civil ceremony. Camilla and Charles walked into a registry office and off camera got married and Charles' parents did not go. They had the blessing. Compared to that I think Meghan and Harry if they marry will manage the ceremony just fine. If Camilla and Charles had their very untraditional wedding, I think Meghan and Harry will manage.
I did not know, Eri a man has to go into hiding if a relationship did not last. If they break up they break up. IF they break up that is. Harry will be fine either way. I don't see how he was "damaged" in any way by dating somebody.
^ Going into hiding and laying low are two different things ... Harry had PR issues prior to this mess by refusing to find a job or do anything useful with his time but vacation in Africa ... she has only made things worse or made people already unhappy more vocal if you will ...
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
^ I agree no matter hat happens he is done and she will win no matter what ... WHEN this is over he will have to lay low for Years ... she has damaged him to no end ...
He might well be damaged among the illiterate people who vent on DM and online Twitter followers, who can't stand that he might marry someone they've decided they don't like. As for damage among the ordinary people of Great Britain, don't think so, judging by the crowds who turned out for him in Nottingham a few days ago.
A journalist talks about seeing MM and Harry at the Orangery at KP at about 3:59 of this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=un-NmYDfKAw
And
Meghan Markle makes a bold declaration of her love | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4195888/Meghan-Markle-makes-bold-declaration-love.html)
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
Harry as the younger sibling may not get the lavish wedding like his brother did in any case. If they want to get married they will make appropriate arrangements at the wedding and work things out. As far as "acceptance" it seems Camilla was and IMO she was a lot more unpopular than Meghan is now. She still got in and her ex husband watched the blessing after the civil ceremony. Camilla and Charles walked into a registry office and off camera got married and Charles' parents did not go. They had the blessing. Compared to that I think Meghan and Harry if they marry will manage the ceremony just fine. If Camilla and Charles had their very untraditional wedding, I think Meghan and Harry will manage.
I did not know, Eri a man has to go into hiding if a relationship did not last. If they break up they break up. IF they break up that is. Harry will be fine either way. I don't see how he was "damaged" in any way by dating somebody.
See, I agree... there is a way around this. That is, if Harry & Meghan forego the lavish wedding and limelight. They marry in a small country town church w/ just family.
Charles & Camilla waited a LONG time to be officially married. They bided their time and slowly tried to be at least acceptable to the public. Will Meghan be willing to wait 3-5 years before getting married?
An important Question now is... will Meghan be ok with a low key wedding? a low key life albeit a lavish one still? Will she be ok out of the limelight? not wear tiaras at official occasions and state dinner? Because if she is, I do see a path how this can work and she and Harry can live a quiet but happy life.(Basically my point is, if she and harry decide to live quietly in the country or in Switzerland or in Africa, the criticism or gossip would die out eventually & the press would focus on the Cambridges)
But IMO, I don't believe that is what Meghan wants or what this C-list, attention-loving actress signed up for. She wants the limelight, the state dinners, to wear the tiaras and to be on the front page every month. So that is what the contention is right now. I believe it is no accident how this whole thing unfolded or how she got her name in the limelight. I'm happy to be wrong and that she and Harry eventually live a quiet luxurious life in Verbier or Paris or Los Angeles. But I don't think I am. And harry may end up marrying her and make the gossip genies wishes for the next decade w/ all the scandals coming. JMO
Why would Harry turn his back on his father and brother and his royal duties in the next reign and this and go and live in Verbier? Did you see the crowds that came out for him in Nottingham last week? No loss of popularity there!
Meghan's not an axe murderer, a gang member or a prostitute. She's an actress, and merely because some of Harry's Twitter followers and some people who vent on the DM online have decided they don't like her Harry is supposed to retire from Royal life? I've never heard of anything more ridiculous in my life!
If Harry proposes the Queen will give her consent, they will get married (probably at St George's Chapel) Harry will be given a Dukedom, Meghan will become his Duchess and she will take up royal duties, helping and supporting him and the BRF. That is what happens to every other bride when they marry into the family, and that's what will happen here, and the little girls of Twitter, Tumblrs and the others who don't like it will just have to get used to it.
^ IMO, Harry doesn't WANT to be out of the limelight , but he'll HAVE to lay low if he wants to marry Meghan in the near future.
Like I said, it's not a problem IF Meghan can wait 3-5 years and have her image cleaned and be palatable to the public. Camilla waited, so can Meghan. Or can she?
And I have NO DOUBT, that the Queen loves Harry and will indulge him his heart's desire. But one thing that the Queen values MORE than family is the MONARCHY as an institution. So the Queen may and probably will give her consent to whatever Harry wants. But when it affects the image and popularity of the Monarchy, she will DO what it best for the Monarchy as an institution.
NO, Meghan is NOT an axe murderer. (But then again, Camilla wasn't either.) She is just an attention loving C-list actress who now has the means (thanks to Social Media) to manipulate her popularity and image that will be out of the control of the TPTB behind the BRF. (Btw, Camilla may have played w/ the papers, but that is nothing compared w/ playing w/ SM and having a team or PR, managers, agents & lawyers) Basically, once you get married, you need to play by the rules (ala KATE).
So my point is, it is a waiting game. If Meghan is patient, she'll get what she wants. (Like Camilla) If she wants it in the near future, there will be sacrifices needed from her and Harry. That's the bottom line. IMO.
And btw, I think Kate is happy in all this coz she and her family are coming up like roses and seems like the valued, aristocratic BRITISH FAMILY that is what a ROYAL should be. (Emphasis on the BRITISH FAMILY)
The Camilla situation was different. Charles and Camilla were not planning children and Camilla did not have a biological clock (she had children and was past childbearing age) so they could wait. Camilla was notorious for being the other woman in Charles's first marriage--Meghan did not have that checkered past. Meghan is of childbearing age and I think she and Harry might want to start a family. If she waits 4 or 5 years here would be more risks to having a healthy child or a healthy childbirth. Sophie Wessex waited and had an ectopic pregnancy and a dangerous childbirth. Megan would be 40 so I doubt the Queen would call for a wait because there would be more risks at having a first baby at 40. I don't think it right to "order" Meghan to wait because she may have difficulties conceiving or giving birth. That would be just plain cruelty.
Why would Harry have to lay low? He's not marrying a criminal or anything like that.
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
^ Going into hiding and laying low are two different things ... Harry had PR issues prior to this mess by refusing to find a job or do anything useful with his time but vacation in Africa ... she has only made things worse or made people already unhappy more vocal if you will ...
Harry has nothing to be ashamed of. I see no PR issues whatsoever. I don't see how she made anything "worse."
And BTW, don't even dare to compare Meghan with Princess Grace Kelly.
Grace Kelly was a movie star w/ an Oscar. She came from old Hollywood in the days of Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. Grace Kelly came from a respectable family. Prince Rainier met with her family and sat down w/ her father. Her family HAD to provide a dowry. (and yes, personally, I do know of families who still talk of engagement & dowries) CAN you imagine Meghan's parents talking dowries! AND THEN, she gave it all up to be Prince Rainier's wife.
So yes, if Meghan was just a plain 'ol actress w/ a clean history, respectable family, NO attention loving social media and definitely NO traces of her GOOP-loving, social climbing tendencies ... I'm pretty sure she'd have the public rallying behind her .But she's just not.
Princess Grace did not have a tidy personal life. She had various affairs and nearly married Oleg Cassini--she broke up with him shortly before her meeting with Rainier--and she got involved with married actors. The royals don't expect dowries. Diana's family paid for the flowers for the wedding. Meghan's family would be asked to pay for something for the wedding should it take place.
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Quote from: Kinkade on February 06, 2017, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
Harry as the younger sibling may not get the lavish wedding like his brother did in any case. If they want to get married they will make appropriate arrangements at the wedding and work things out. As far as "acceptance" it seems Camilla was and IMO she was a lot more unpopular than Meghan is now. She still got in and her ex husband watched the blessing after the civil ceremony. Camilla and Charles walked into a registry office and off camera got married and Charles' parents did not go. They had the blessing. Compared to that I think Meghan and Harry if they marry will manage the ceremony just fine. If Camilla and Charles had their very untraditional wedding, I think Meghan and Harry will manage.
I did not know, Eri a man has to go into hiding if a relationship did not last. If they break up they break up. IF they break up that is. Harry will be fine either way. I don't see how he was "damaged" in any way by dating somebody.
See, I agree... there is a way around this. That is, if Harry & Meghan forego the lavish wedding and limelight. They marry in a small country town church w/ just family.
Charles & Camilla waited a LONG time to be officially married. They bided their time and slowly tried to be at least acceptable to the public. Will Meghan be willing to wait 3-5 years before getting married?
An important Question now is... will Meghan be ok with a low key wedding? a low key life albeit a lavish one still? Will she be ok out of the limelight? not wear tiaras at official occasions and state dinner? Because if she is, I do see a path how this can work and she and Harry can live a quiet but happy life.(Basically my point is, if she and harry decide to live quietly in the country or in Switzerland or in Africa, the criticism or gossip would die out eventually & the press would focus on the Cambridges)
But IMO, I don't believe that is what Meghan wants or what this C-list, attention-loving actress signed up for. She wants the limelight, the state dinners, to wear the tiaras and to be on the front page every month. So that is what the contention is right now. I believe it is no accident how this whole thing unfolded or how she got her name in the limelight. I'm happy to be wrong and that she and Harry eventually live a quiet luxurious life in Verbier or Paris or Los Angeles. But I don't think I am. And harry may end up marrying her and make the gossip genies wishes for the next decade w/ all the scandals coming. JMO
If they are ordered to wait and then Meghan has trouble conceiving or has a dangerous pregnancy that would be plain nasty of the royals.
I don't see her as an axe murderer that Harry has to give up his royal work to marry her.
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 02:48:11 PM
The Camilla situation was different. Charles and Camilla were not planning children and Camilla did not have a biological clock (she had children and was past childbearing age) so they could wait. Camilla was notorious for being the other woman in Charles's first marriage. Meghan is of childbearing age and I think she and Harry might want to start a family. If she waits 4 or 5 years here would be more risks to having a healthy child or a healthy childbirth. Sophie Wessex waited and had an ectopic pregnancy and a dangerous childbirth. Megan would be 40 so I doubt the Queen would call for a wait because there would be more risks at having a first baby at 40.
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
^ Going into hiding and laying low are two different things ... Harry had PR issues prior to this mess by refusing to find a job or do anything useful with his time but vacation in Africa ... she has only made things worse or made people already unhappy more vocal if you will ...
Harry has nothing to be ashamed of. I see no PR issues whatsoever. I don't see how she made anything "worse."
Personally, I don't think Harry has anything to be ashamed of. But there are definite PR issues w/ Meghan. That is undeniable and apparent on the internet and social media. To deny it, would be burying your head in the sand .
Harry's history w/ media and his popularity is very extreme. He's done very stupid things in the past and has gotten lots of flak for it.( e.g., naked Vegas or Nazi costume) He's also very charming and can endear people. But the gamut of his likability is so extreme that one mistake can turn people off. Unfortunately, in the world of a 24hr news cycle/internet/social media, these extreme changes aren't favorable to the conservative, archaic and control freaks behind the BRF.
Thus, IMO, if he wants to marry someone as controversial as Meghan in the near future, there would be a need to be off the limelight. Unless again, Harry and Meghan are willing to wait 3-5 years, clean up their image, endear themselves to the British public... and get all the perks of being ROYAL.
I agree Harry will have to settle for a very low key wedding/ Title / life if he marries this one if anything because she is so unpopular ... he will have to compromise ... not that I think it will get that far he will get tired of her soon ...
Kinkade I don't see any PR issues with her. I don't see her as controversial. Why would you want them to wait 3 to 5 years? Would you want her to have a risky pregnancy down the road or conception issues? I think she would if she were forced to wait. Sophie did and she was younger than Meghan at the time. I see no need to be out of the limelight. People do like royal engagements and weddings. Harry made stupid mistakes but he apologized he was no juvenile delinquent. Will did immature things too like commandeering a military copter to a stag party and was seen falling out of clubs. So Harry has to pay for his stupid blunders for the rest of his life? Harry IS a royal he does not need to leave the limelight to get the privileges and perks of being one.
A low key wedding to the royals is a little less lavish than a big wedding. You think she's unpopular Eri, not everybody does. Maybe you wish he'll get tired of her soon.
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Quote from: Curryong on February 06, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
Why would Harry turn his back on his father and brother and his royal duties in the next reign and this and go and live in Verbier? Did you see the crowds that came out for him in Nottingham last week? No loss of popularity there!
Meghan's not an axe murderer, a gang member or a prostitute. She's an actress, and merely because some of Harry's Twitter followers and some people who vent on the DM online have decided they don't like her Harry is supposed to retire from Royal life? I've never heard of anything more ridiculous in my life!
If Harry proposes the Queen will give her consent, they will get married (probably at St George's Chapel) Harry will be given a Dukedom, Meghan will become his Duchess and she will take up royal duties, helping and supporting him and the BRF. That is what happens to every other bride when they marry into the family, and that's what will happen here, and the little girls of Twitter, Tumblrs and the others who don't like it will just have to get used to it.
I don't get the negativity about Meghan like she served time someplace.
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
Princess Grace did not have a tidy personal life. She had various affairs and nearly married Oleg Cassini--she broke up with him shortly before her meeting with Rainier--and she got involved with married actors. The royals don't expect dowries. Diana's family paid for the flowers for the wedding. Meghan's family would be asked to pay for something for the wedding should it take place.
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If they are ordered to wait and then Meghan has trouble conceiving or has a dangerous pregnancy that would be plain nasty of the royals.
I don't see her as an axe murderer that Harry has to give up his royal work to marry her.
The simple fact that Meghan is so talked about on the internet, blogs, comments on the papers is ALREADY CONTROVERSIAL. No way denying that. TPTB just need to clean up her image. In the first place, if they didn't care about her image or Kensington Palace's image, they wouldn't have needed to state that stupid, contrived, spoiled statement.
NO, Princess Grace may not have been an 18 year Diana with a clean history. But she also WAS NOT DIVORCED, NOR CO-HABITATED AGAIN with another man. She also (luckily for her), did not live in an age w/ the internet and social media, where every single thing in your past can be googled in less than 2 seconds.
Really... what would Meghan's family be asked to "contribute" to a royal wedding? You mean like the new, bespoke diamond drop earrings that Kate Middleton's parents gave her for her wedding? (to say the least) I thought Meghan's dad was in hiding and in financial trouble? Or would Meghan's parents be able to throw lavish parties for her daughter before marrying Harry. Or maybe they can block a couple of floors or rooms at some lavish hotel for her wedding. Maybe they can afford McQueen gowns for her and her entourage?
DO I sound mean and snobbish? because yes, my point exactly, we're talking about the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY, they are rich, elite and snobbish. Don't deny that. They drove Princess Diana, (who was already from aristocracy) to the brink of despair. To be accepted into that family would take a lot. And Kate's parents ALREADY have money and decent respectability, and YET Kate has still to play by the rules and be the lawful, obedient wife.
And yes, like everyone here points out, Harry isn't expected to be like William so he can marry someone like Meghan. He's also not EXPECTED TO bring children to continue the line. Whether Harry and Meghan have children won't be the BRF's concern (yes, it's harsh, but let's admit it, true). SO back to my point, if Harry & Meghan become the second Duke & Duchess of Windsor, live a lavish but out-of-the-limelight life, I don't think there would be any problem at all for them.
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Meghan will give up her acting career and play by the BRF rules once she marries. That's mandatory for Royal brides and life in the golden cage will be sacrifice enough.
Meghan has money of her own and will be able to buy her own jewellery and gowns as, like Sophie, but unlike Kate, she has worked for years. Sophie brought her own money into the royal family. So will Meghan.
There have been plenty of foreign commoner brides in other royal families that have made their mark in their adopted countries, and become popular, Maxima, Mary and Marie of Denmark, Marie Theresa of Luxembourg are just a few.
Meghan has half siblings she hasn't spoken to in decades that have made idiots of themselves, that's true. However, her parents have said nothing.
How do we know what Britain and the Commonwealth think of Harry marrying Meghan? We have ravings from people who vent online at the DM, (many of them foreigners) and we have Twitter and Tumblr. Has any polling company done a survey or poll on the matter? No, so how do we know?
I come from a Commonwealth country, Australia (though I'm British born and raised and have plenty of contacts there.) Among people I know, both in Oz and in Britain, there's a sort of mild interest, nothing more. To read some comments, you'd think people will be rioting in the London streets if Harry marries Meghan. Lol! They aren't and they won't.
Harry, if he marries her, will become a Duke, she his Duchess, the crowds will come out, just like they do for every royal wedding and afterwards, Meghan will begin Royal duties. The couple have nothing to be ashamed of, and if they decide to marry, they'll probably wed in 2018. They will want a family. No point in waiting.
As for Kate, if online comments on forums and Tumblrs are as important as some say, then she's no more popular among posters now than she was five years ago. Hair, posture, wardrobe malfunctions several times, woodenness, lack of speech making abilities, all criticised. As for her family, Carole is very much criticised, and we have uncle Gary and a stripper cousin who had an act in which she danced with a crown on her head. Yeah, very classy!
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Grace Kelly did not have such a clean story. She had affairs with several Hollywood actors before marrying the prince and was also reputed to be a nymphomaniac :lol: :lol:. I also don't understand this hostility to Meghan. She is intelligent, educated, discreet, speaks very well and studied in good schools , had good training . What's the problem?
Quote from: Kinkade on February 06, 2017, 03:18:32 PM
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
Princess Grace did not have a tidy personal life. She had various affairs and nearly married Oleg Cassini--she broke up with him shortly before her meeting with Rainier--and she got involved with married actors. The royals don't expect dowries. Diana's family paid for the flowers for the wedding. Meghan's family would be asked to pay for something for the wedding should it take place.
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If they are ordered to wait and then Meghan has trouble conceiving or has a dangerous pregnancy that would be plain nasty of the royals.
I don't see her as an axe murderer that Harry has to give up his royal work to marry her.
The simple fact that Meghan is so talked about on the internet, blogs, comments on the papers is ALREADY CONTROVERSIAL. No way denying that. TPTB just need to clean up her image. In the first place, if they didn't care about her image or Kensington Palace's image, they wouldn't have needed to state that stupid, contrived, spoiled statement.
NO, Princess Grace may not have been an 18 year Diana with a clean history. But she also WAS NOT DIVORCED, NOR CO-HABITATED AGAIN with another man. She also (luckily for her), did not live in an age w/ the internet and social media, where every single thing in your past can be googled in less than 2 seconds.
Really... what would Meghan's family be asked to "contribute" to a royal wedding? You mean like the new, bespoke diamond drop earrings that Kate Middleton's parents gave her for her wedding? (to say the least) I thought Meghan's dad was in hiding and in financial trouble? Or would Meghan's parents be able to throw lavish parties for her daughter before marrying Harry. Or maybe they can block a couple of floors or rooms at some lavish hotel for her wedding. Maybe they can afford McQueen gowns for her and her entourage?
DO I sound mean and snobbish? because yes, my point exactly, we're talking about the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY, they are rich, elite and snobbish. Don't deny that. They drove Princess Diana, (who was already from aristocracy) to the brink of despair. To be accepted into that family would take a lot. And Kate's parents ALREADY have money and decent respectability, and YET Kate has still to play by the rules and be the lawful, obedient wife.
And yes, like everyone here points out, Harry isn't expected to be like William so he can marry someone like Meghan. He's also not EXPECTED TO bring children to continue the line. Whether Harry and Meghan have children won't be the BRF's concern (yes, it's harsh, but let's admit it, true). SO back to my point, if Harry & Meghan become the second Duke & Duchess of Windsor, live a lavish but out-of-the-limelight life, I don't think there would be any problem at all for them.
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Actually, Prince Rainier seriously considered Marilyn Monroe as a bride and she was twice divorced by then. Grace Kelly had affairs with married actors that certainly would have been known.
Not expected to have children? that is a big harsh. What if he wants Children? I never heard of the royals forbidding couples to have children.
As far as snobbishness, Kate Middleton has a controversial Uncle, she and Pippa were called the Wisteria Sisters, and her mother is not exactly popular with everybody. Camilla was and is notorious because she was a key factor in the breakup of Charles and Diana's marriage, not only a divorcee. Meghan did not break up a royal marriage.
Obey has been left out of royal ceremonies. Kate still gets slammed even though she got to marry William.
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Quote from: Cat00 on February 06, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
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Grace Kelly did not have such a clean story. She had affairs with several Hollywood actors before marrying the prince and was also reputed to be a nymphomaniac :lol: :lol:. I also don't understand this hostility to Meghan. She is intelligent, educated, discreet, speaks very well and studied in good schools , had good training . What's the problem?
I don't get all the hostility either to the point of some not wanting Harry and Meghan to have children because the have to "wait".
IMO... Queen Maxima may have been tainted by her father/family's history, but not her history. She was not divorced, she's highly educated and very charismatic. Let's admit it, time was on her side.
I never read anything bad about Princess Marie. Princess Mary on the other hand.. well... I think Mary & Frederk's likability is still debatable and the Queen is ever so popular, she won't abdicate.
Marie Theresa's only strike against her was that her ancestry came from bourgeois Spanish ancestry. But she came from a respectable and rich family. She was also well educated in a Univ in Geneva. She and Henri met when they were young and in love. I don't see past lovers/husbands/live-in partners casting shadows anywhere. Her case is A LOT different from Meghan.
Basically, Meghan doesn't even come close to Princess Angela of Lichtenstein. Angela Gisela Brown came from respectable background, well educated, no controversial past lurking on the internet. She has innate grace, elegance and most important, not an attention loving character.
People here blowing things out of proportion. IMO, Meghan is simply the best girlfriend Harry's ever had. He won a lottery with her. She's not some young ingenue scared of mixing with royality. She seems like an easy going person and that with her life experience is a big plus. Not to mention she's stunning and looks 10 years younger. If they decide to wed good for them. It'll be smooth affair and Queen will be happy for Harry. I'll be cheering all the way.
Mette Marit had an affair and a child out of wedlock. She got to marry a royal and is the mother of a future monarch.
If they want to get married, Meghan and Harry will marry. And not be told they can't have children because William had them for the line of succession. All the Queen's children had families.
I don't think there will be people with torches and pitchforks storming the Palace if there is an engagement announcement
AGAIN... I never said Grace Kelly had a clean history. Please read my post. But she had a respectable family and lived in a time w/ no internet or social media. Heck, if Rainier wanted to marry Monroe, that's on his judgement. And I don't think that's a good metaphor for Harry or Meghan. :D
Yes, my comment was intended to be harsh. Because my point was, to be able to get into the BRF and be acceptable is HARSH. That is the reality. It isn't some Hallmark/Disney movie where political correctness is the norm nor will you be accepted if you come from a not well-to-do family.
What if Harry wants children? what if he DOESN'T want children? what if he wants a fun loving life w/ Meghan? WHO THE HECK KNOWS??? I never said anyone FORBIDS THEM to have children. I just said it's not expected of them. IMAGE is key and more important. William and Kate are expected to have heirs, and that it's .
Was I harsh? not P.C.? mean? well guess what, that is the BRF. Where duty and image is more important than all else. AT least that is my view of things. The money, jewels, palaces and privilege all demand sacrifices.
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Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
Mette Marit had an affair and a child out of wedlock. She got to marry a royal and is the mother of a future monarch.
If they want to get married, Meghan and Harry will marry. And not be told they can't have children because William had them for the line of succession. All the Queen's children had families.
I don't think there will be people with torches and pitchforks storming the Palace if there is an engagement announcement
I was in Oslo the summer that Mette Marit and Haakon got married. Oh the comments of people there were not happy AT ALL. :coy: It took a while for people to like her and she still gets criticisms for her love of luxury.
NOTE, I never said never... I said TIME is key in all this. TIME, TIME TIME... would Meghan be patient. TO me, it's all a game.
And please, torches and pitchforks are so dramatic. This is NOT a Disney movie like beauty and the beast. I'm talking about ratings, popularity, likability and loyalty. It is a long and arduous process. IN a time where ordinary people are living the hard life and trying to make ends meet, the reason to have MONARCHY is constantly debated. Brexit anyone? Opinion polls that are unexpected that can change the future of any country?
QE2 has always known that. IMO. She's been smart enough to know, from early on, that duty comes first and the people can turn on you in a second. In a time when MOST BRITS I know feel like the only good thing a MONARCHY contributes to their country is that "they are good for tourists", every move is important. What a MONARCHY wants is not just presence and lavish lifestyle, they want approval, respect and love and loyalty. Harry might act like he doesn't care what people think , but when his popularity wanes, then the real test begins.
It is quite untrue that brides from poorer backgrounds aren't accepted into the BRF. Sophie Rhees Jones didn't come from a well to do family. Her father was a car tyre salesman, her mother a secretary. MM's father was a respected and award lighting technician, her mother a therapist and social worker Sophie made her own way in the world and was working in PR when she met Edward. Sophie had had several serious love affairs in her past.
Her parents couldn't afford to buy her jewellery or bespoke gowns either. However, she married Prince Edward, brought, it was said, a large amount of her own money into the Royal family when she wed, was accepted, had a Royal wedding at St George's and became the Queen's favourite daughter in law.
Harry is going to marry Meghan and not her family. No problem with her parents, the brothers who are troublesome, but she has no fault and it seems she does not even have contact with them.It would be stupid to condemn a person like her, full of qualities, because of relatives :no:
Quote from: Kinkade on February 06, 2017, 03:49:28 PM
AGAIN... I never said Grace Kelly had a clean history. Please read my post. But she had a respectable family and lived in a time w/ no internet or social media. Heck, if Rainier wanted to marry Monroe, that's on his judgement. And I don't think that's a good metaphor for Harry or Meghan. :D
Yes, my comment was intended to be harsh. Because my point was, to be able to get into the BRF and be acceptable is HARSH. That is the reality. It isn't some Hallmark/Disney movie where political correctness is the norm nor will you be accepted if you come from a not well-to-do family.
What if Harry wants children? what if he DOESN'T want children? what if he wants a fun loving life w/ Meghan? WHO THE HECK KNOWS??? I never said anyone FORBIDS THEM to have children. I just said it's not expected of them. IMAGE is key and more important. William and Kate are expected to have heirs, and that it's .
Was I harsh? not P.C.? mean? well guess what, that is the BRF. Where duty and image is more important than all else. AT least that is my view of things. The money, jewels, palaces and privilege all demand sacrifices.
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Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
Mette Marit had an affair and a child out of wedlock. She got to marry a royal and is the mother of a future monarch.
If they want to get married, Meghan and Harry will marry. And not be told they can't have children because William had them for the line of succession. All the Queen's children had families.
I don't think there will be people with torches and pitchforks storming the Palace if there is an engagement announcement
I was in Oslo the summer that Mette Marit and Haakon got married. Oh the comments of people there were not happy AT ALL. :coy: It took a while for people to like her and she still gets criticisms for her love of luxury.
NOTE, I never said never... I said TIME is key in all this. TIME, TIME TIME... would Meghan be patient. TO me, it's all a game.
And please, torches and pitchforks are so dramatic. This is NOT a Disney movie like beauty and the beast. I'm talking about ratings, popularity, likability and loyalty. It is a long and arduous process. IN a time where ordinary people are living the hard life and trying to make ends meet, the reason to have MONARCHY is constantly debated. Brexit anyone? Opinion polls that are unexpected that can change the future of any country?
QE2 has always known that. IMO. She's been smart enough to know, from early on, that duty comes first and the people can turn on you in a second. In a time when MOST BRITS I know feel like the only good thing a MONARCHY contributes to their country is that "they are good for tourists", every move is important. What a MONARCHY wants is not just presence and lavish lifestyle, they want approval, respect and love and loyalty. Harry might act like he doesn't care what people think , but when his popularity wanes, then the real test begins.
Harry said he looked forward to having children of his own. The royals would IMO look like ogres making him wait because Meghan is unpopular with some on royal boards and social media.
Yes, it was dramatic using that terminology but IMO so is the idea of the Queen telling them too bad they have to wait to get married and William already has children so Harry and Meghan "won't need them." That sounds really hard hearted to me.
Mette Marit did join the royal family so it is a moot point.
Without social media existing, the word still got out about Grace's relationships with her co-stars.
If the Queen "forces them to wait" and Meghan can't have children because of that I think THAT would bring down the monarchy. What sort of person makes such decrees!
Given Charles own past history, I can't imagine him getting judgmental over Megan. He might like her for all we know.
The only the heir can have children is not a rule and never was one. That is why there is a line of succession. And the Queen never said well Edward and Andrew since your brother has produced the heir and spare with his wife, no need for you to even bother. And told Anne to wait until her brother had his heirs before she'd give Anne and her husband permission.
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Quote from: Cat00 on February 06, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
Harry is going to marry Meghan and not her family. No problem with her parents, the brothers who are troublesome, but she has no fault and it seems she does not even have contact with them.It would be stupid to condemn a person like her, full of qualities, because of relatives :no:
Hillary Clinton had some brothers who sold pardons. They did not appear with her in public during her campaigns. They stay out of the limelight. I never heard people say she could not be President because of what her brothers did.
They have been dating for a couple of Months at best ... some are being ridiculous ... there will be no engagement or babies any time soon ...
Meghan Markle Is Now Wearing A Prince Harry Ring (http://www.elleuk.com/fashion/news/a33840/meghan-markle-wearing-prince-harry-ring/)
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
They have been dating for a couple of Months at best ... some are being ridiculous ... there will be no engagement or babies any time soon ...
I agree not soon as in a few weeks but maybe relatively soon.
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Quote from: Yale on February 05, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
All some of you do here is complain about this relationship. But what it is going to change? If Harry wants to marry Meghan, he will do just that. It will not matter to him who disapproves or why. Whether it is too soon or not for an engagement or marriage, it is their decision.
Some don't understand that no one cares what Harry does ... it seems to me some people here care only to have a different "cool" Countess without caring about how she would fit within the Royal Family and how it would all work put IN REALTY ...
IMO since you are the most vocal about this relationship it is obvious you care very much what Harry does. As far as I can tell they have been conducting this relationship as discreetly as possible and it seems to be moving forward at their pace and the latest picture shows they are totally comfortable and at ease. I don't believe Meghan fitting into the RF to be a problem she does charity work, loves dogs and being outdoors things the royal have in common. I don't recall any of Harry's previous girlfriends with the possible exception of Chelsy sharing charitable commitments or being the outdoorsy type. As for the fact that she has had relationships and is divorced well that ship sailed years ago when Sarah Ferguson who had a live in relationship with Paddy McNally was allowed to marry Andrew and Camilla a divorcee was allowed to marry Charles. As it is now in all the royal houses the old rules just don't apply and the marriages seem happier.
Quote from: Eri on February 06, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
They have been dating for a couple of Months at best ... some are being ridiculous ... there will be no engagement or babies any time soon ...
They have been dating since June. It will be a year in June. You quit being ridiculous!
According to everyone so far it seems it's a done deal they are going to get marry, people need to STOP living in denial, Megan already move in and the Producer of the show said this is her last season on Suits and they are writing her character Rachel Out in a storyline well deserved.
They would not be saying all of this if is not a done deal. Harry made a serious official statement last year in his words ""he said it's his life and will like people to respect it and warn the troll to stop being racist to Megan.
William marry Kate despite uncle grey infamous drug bust, so the Queen will over look all Megan flaws and accept this marriage for the sake of harry happiness, I highly doubt the Queen will wish harry to be unhappy and marry someone for the media liking or fan base choice.
So weather you like it or not it's happening and the media outlets know it . All everyone is waiting on is Jason or whatever Harry assistant name is, to announce the news
just like last year confirmmation surprise about their relationship.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/migrhodes/status/827535254378385408)
Quote from: good221 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:22 PM
According to everyone so far it seems it's a done deal they are going to get marry, people need to STOP living in denial, Megan already move in and the Producer of the show said this is her last season on Suits and they are writing her character Rachel Out in a storyline well deserved.
They would not be saying all of this if is not a done deal. Harry made a serious official statement last year in his words ""he said it's his life and will like people to respect it and warn the troll to stop being racist to Megan.
William marry Kate despite uncle grey infamous drug bust, so the Queen will over look all Megan flaws and accept this marriage for the sake of harry happiness, I highly doubt the Queen will wish harry to be unhappy and marry someone for the media liking or fan base choice.
So weather you like it or not it's happening and the media outlets know it . All everyone is waiting on is Jason or whatever Harry assistant name is, to announce the news
just like last year confirmmation surprise about their relationship.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/migrhodes/status/827535254378385408)
I hadn't heard she was leaving "Suits". Last I read late last year that producer said that no one was being written out at the moment. Where did you read that she was leaving or that this is her last season?
It fits if true and she has been in London since December 30 aside from her trip and their vacation.
I think she will quit the show if she and Harry get engaged.
Quote from: sandy on February 07, 2017, 01:09:58 AM
I think she will quit the show if she and Harry get engaged.
Sandy, if the producer of "Suits" has said that she is leaving after this next season, that "Rachael Zane will be written out then of course she IS quitting. What I want to know when he said that. Meghan obviously decided to leave recently then and that might be a sign of something.
All that I have read, so far, is that the producer of the show says that they are still currently writing episodes for season 7. I think that Season 7 doesn't actually start filming until April.
The promotional interviews that some of the cast are presently doing is for the second half of season 6 that finished filming last November.
I don't think Meghan's character, Rachel, appears in every episode so IMO it would be quite easy to write her out if necessary-- Rachel's new life, new job in another city, a new love, -- and bob's your uncle. We don't know to what level of seriousness Meghan's romance with Harry has reached. If they are at the stage of talking seriously about marriage and the Queen and Prince Charles are agreeable then Meghan could well decide to leave Suits and Toronto behind, send for her dogs (who will be in quarantine for a long time before being allowed to enter Britain) and settle down at Nott Cott until and beyond the engagement announcement.
one of the entertainment news outlet interview the creator Aaron Korsh about the future of suits.
He discuss some of the new features coming up for season six and he said on 7 they will be character shake up and he also mention that Gina Torres the actress that play Jessica is not the only character will not be returning to suit but another character leave mid season 7!
That is when the report say is Rachel Megan character leaving, he reply that Rachel and Mike will be affect by the mid season shake up
That will change their dynamic story!
To me all that sound like Megan character will be leaving Mike
Again and put their marriage life on hold over something that happen.
This way they could write her character off to London to Work on the company law firm if you watch suits you will know they have a law firm in London, this way it fit Megan real life story. Even her co-star Patrick Adams said On his Last interview confirmed everything and
Agree Harry and Megan should be given time to deal with their relationship their way. I don't know how many more information to get you all to see it a done deal.
Her dog in Canada will not have any issue to move right in this summer with their new parents.
I have a terrible feeling that there is too much pressure being put on Harry based on the "inevitability of marriage". The lad is merely dating. If all of us were expected to take our dates down the aisle then we might be on our 20th marriage at the very least :hehe:
People always do this with Harry and his longterm loves, though I do admit to having a feeling about Harry and Meghan, especially as he's now 32 and has been looking for a wife for a long time. Unlike many online I liked Cressida B as well. I think many people seem to have a sort of protective feeling towards Harry, an echo I suppose, of remembering that little boy following his mother's coffin with her wreath from him on top.
And everybody likes a wedding, especially the media. Some of the tabloid journalists are probably slavering at the moment about potential stories of wedding gowns and venues and guests (will Chelsy be there?) and then Meghan at Royal duties and all the comparing with Kate they can do afterwards a la Fergie and Diana.
Quote from: good221 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:22 PM
According to everyone so far it seems it's a done deal they are going to get marry, people need to STOP living in denial, Megan already move in and the Producer of the show said this is her last season on Suits and they are writing her character Rachel Out in a storyline well deserved.
They would not be saying all of this if is not a done deal. Harry made a serious official statement last year in his words ""he said it's his life and will like people to respect it and warn the troll to stop being racist to Megan.
William marry Kate despite uncle grey infamous drug bust, so the Queen will over look all Megan flaws and accept this marriage for the sake of harry happiness, I highly doubt the Queen will wish harry to be unhappy and marry someone for the media liking or fan base choice.
So weather you like it or not it's happening and the media outlets know it . All everyone is waiting on is Jason or whatever Harry assistant name is, to announce the news
just like last year confirmmation surprise about their relationship.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/migrhodes/status/827535254378385408)
If he marries a woman he has dated for a couple of Months and has a history of divorcing within a Year I will be here enjoying the circus ... that mess will make the Yorks look like a child's play and I can't wait ... I say bring it on ... some are really mistaken if they think anyone is feeling "protective" towards a 32 years old who seems to have a self destructive bottom he uses very often ... his funeral ...
^ It is February now. Harry's statement via KP was issued in October. In it he stated that he and Meghan had been dating for a matter of months. Even if the 'matter of months' was only two, August to February is not two months in duration. (He and Meghan were seen together at Soho House last June, in fact, which makes the dating period even longer.)
Meghan's marriage lasted two years not one, and they had been together for many years before that. A bit like Queen Letizia of Spain's first marriage, actually, together for nine years, married for one. You predict a disaster for Meghan and Harry's marriage because she's divorced, but in fact Letizia's second marriage has lasted for over twelve years and is still going strong.
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
Corey the chef wasn't Meghan's husband. He was the live-in boyfriend. She wasn't his wife, was single, and we don't know why they split up. Nothing but a lot of unsubstantiated rumours.
Quote from: Curryong on February 07, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Corey the chef wasn't Meghan's husband. He was the live-in boyfriend. She wasn't his wife, was single, and we don't know why they split up. Nothing but a lot of unsubstantiated rumours.
And it doesn't matter!! It's the past! This kind of stuff we'll never know and we don't have any business knowing. Meghan is with Harry now!! How is bringing any of this up going to change anything?
Moving on.....
If they marry, do you all think they'll buy a home in the US?
Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
I am a long time lurker and just registered because it seems that you are in minority here and that's why I came to support you.
This is my first post, I work as head of strategy department in the affiliate of the one of top 20 companies, so I read Meghan as the open book.
I agree with your comments, she used to live with Corey, they were not dating, they were living together, now she lives with Harry and seems to me that she is very comfortable to live with any boyfriend, like those needy women who can not be alone for a minute..
She has now very sombre facial expressions comparing with the facial expressions when pictured with her ex husband during their Jamaica trip. I think that she studied Harry more than I strudy on daily basis our competetion..sombre look, head down, by the way, she dresses as every girl on instagram, from head to toe...and cheap...
Looks to me she is desperate to marry Harry and she will probably make it but he will have a lot of trouble with her, when he shows her real face...
And regarding her humanitarian work, what exactly she contributed to improve life of these girls? She donated money, clothed, pipes maybe or she just gave presentation and flied in the first class straight to
The Kensington palace?
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
he is JUST 32 and I would give him at least another 5 years to enjoy the life. By the way she looks older than him and very matured ... why presser to marry...
I disagree. One can't make such determinations IMO based on a photo. I don't think she's desperate. She works and is not dependent on any man to support her. Kate OTOH had no real full time job, just sporadic part time work and waited 10 years for the ring. Meghan can walk away and not be "desperate" for a man. She's an attractive woman and certainly if she were so "desperate" she'd have settled for the first man who dated her. Maybe Harry does not want to wait 5 years to get married. He talked only recently about settling down and having a family. I don't see anything "cheap" about her and I don't think that's a fair comment based on photos alone. Torn jeans can cost a fortune if t hey are by designers.
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
One person can get "serious" but if the other does not get "serious" also the relationship is Over. Harry seems serious to me.
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
I am a long time lurker and just registered because it seems that you are in minority here and that's why I came to support you.
This is my first post, I work as head of strategy department in the affiliate of the one of top 20 companies, so I read Meghan as the open book.
I agree with your comments, she used to live with Corey, they were not dating, they were living together, now she lives with Harry and seems to me that she is very comfortable to live with any boyfriend, like those needy women who can not be alone for a minute..
She has now very sombre facial expressions comparing with the facial expressions when pictured with her ex husband during their Jamaica trip. I think that she studied Harry more than I strudy on daily basis our competetion..sombre look, head down, by the way, she dresses as every girl on instagram, from head to toe...and cheap...
Looks to me she is desperate to marry Harry and she will probably make it but he will have a lot of trouble with her, when he shows her real face...
And regarding her humanitarian work, what exactly she contributed to improve life of these girls? She donated money, clothed, pipes maybe or she just gave presentation and flied in the first class straight to
The Kensington palace?
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
he is JUST 32 and I would give him at least another 5 years to enjoy the life. By the way she looks older than him and very matured ... why presser to marry...
Thank you!!! It's weird you have stumbled on the ONLY place on the internet with two fans of this woman who is despised by her own sister!!! If they marry I will be here enjoying the circus ... Harry has sailed his fate ... too bad because while he is not smart by any means he is charismatic and photogenic ...
She settled immediately after husband with Corey, and after him with Harry... and some player Rory was inserted somewhere ... by the way she lives on his expenses now, she could rent a flat or house in London, at least I would do... to show that independency...
If she works anything beside the Suits, how she cann afford to sit and do nothing besides waiting for Harry to return from his engagements because they would be noticed ...
she is pretty but beautiful no...her clothes is cheap, one only beanie and dirty shows all the time...
^ She only has a Show no one had heard of until she started dating Harry ... she lives of her men ... let's get real here ... the cook was paying for it all ...
I will enjoy Eri... me too...we discussed in my office them and uniform opinion is that she figured out that her career is over, Corey is poor for her, thy could only rent a house, than she noticed that Mrs.Clooney is praised for humanitarian work and than she started to do the same.
I think that she went fully prepared for that dinner where she met Harry, he was probably attracted and it is not that difficult to manipulate, she is older, more expirience... probably he wanted to leave her during his Caribbean tour because she was posting on daily basis and after it silence...
I bet if she mmarry him, she will raise military coup just to be queen...
If she is rich, she would help her 72 years old father...
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 06:56:58 PM
^ She only has a Show no one had heard of until she started dating Harry ... she lives of her men ... let's get real here ... the cook was paying for it all ...
Allegedly he paid rent of that hous until the end of the year... and interior all white with two dogs? Probably not her house, I live alone, literally only sleeps overnight duringe the weeks, all gray and black and need cleaning at least three times per week...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Harry is not interested in the opinion of others, it is obvious that he is in love with Meghan, The trolls' comments, it does not matter :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: SueElen on February 07, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
I am a long time lurker and just registered because it seems that you are in minority here and that's why I came to support you.
This is my first post, I work as head of strategy department in the affiliate of the one of top 20 companies, so I read Meghan as the open book.
I agree with your comments, she used to live with Corey, they were not dating, they were living together, now she lives with Harry and seems to me that she is very comfortable to live with any boyfriend, like those needy women who can not be alone for a minute..
She has now very sombre facial expressions comparing with the facial expressions when pictured with her ex husband during their Jamaica trip. I think that she studied Harry more than I strudy on daily basis our competetion..sombre look, head down, by the way, she dresses as every girl on instagram, from head to toe...and cheap...
Looks to me she is desperate to marry Harry and she will probably make it but he will have a lot of trouble with her, when he shows her real face...
And regarding her humanitarian work, what exactly she contributed to improve life of these girls? She donated money, clothed, pipes maybe or she just gave presentation and flied in the first class straight to
The Kensington palace?
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
^ You forget the husband she left for Harry ... she seems to love getting very serious very fast but doesn't seem to know how to make the relationship last ... anyways ... it seems she wants to spend as much time as possible with Harry now days let's see if the relationship survives that test ... let's see if it will ... I have my doubts the man child will have his eyes on the next 20 something years old by April ...
he is JUST 32 and I would give him at least another 5 years to enjoy the life. By the way she looks older than him and very matured ... why presser to marry...
Thank you!!! It's weird you have stumbled on the ONLY place on the internet with two fans of this woman who is despised by her own sister!!! If they marry I will be here enjoying the circus ... Harry has sailed his fate ... too bad because while he is not smart by any means he is charismatic and photogenic ...
I think there are more than two, Eri.
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Quote from: SueElen on February 07, 2017, 07:01:53 PM
I will enjoy Eri... me too...we discussed in my office them and uniform opinion is that she figured out that her career is over, Corey is poor for her, thy could only rent a house, than she noticed that Mrs.Clooney is praised for humanitarian work and than she started to do the same.
I think that she went fully prepared for that dinner where she met Harry, he was probably attracted and it is not that difficult to manipulate, she is older, more expirience... probably he wanted to leave her during his Caribbean tour because she was posting on daily basis and after it silence...
I bet if she mmarry him, she will raise military coup just to be queen...
If she is rich, she would help her 72 years old father...
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Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 06:56:58 PM
^ She only has a Show no one had heard of until she started dating Harry ... she lives of her men ... let's get real here ... the cook was paying for it all ...
Allegedly he paid rent of that hous until the end of the year... and interior all white with two dogs? Probably not her house, I live alone, literally only sleeps overnight duringe the weeks, all gray and black and need cleaning at least three times per week...
Meghan is only three years older than Harry. Hardly a huge age difference. Harry is not exactly inexperienced.
Military coup?! Not very likely
Physically, she looks way older and very matured despite she dress as a teenager...
I disagree.
Quote from: Eri on February 07, 2017, 06:56:58 PM
^ She only has a Show no one had heard of until she started dating Harry ... she lives of her men ... let's get real here ... the cook was paying for it all ...
She certainly was not as famous pre-Harry, and however hard it is for some to accept, she had some success prior to Harry. Meghan has been on a successful tv show for several years, there are many actors and actresses who would also love to have such a great opportunity and will never have one. The show, Suits also appears in many countries. I happen to like all of the cast of Suits, you don't hear about them often in the media either but that doesn't mean that they are not any good.
Long before MM was ever mentioned on this board, she was appearing on TV commercials advertising for her line at Reitmans, that was in 2015, not just in 2016, when the news of her relationship with PH was revealed.
Let's get real here, just because some didn't know about her doesn't mean that Meg hasn't had many fans for a long time. The melt downs that are occurring because Harry has chosen to have a relationship with a woman that he chose and he likes is unreal. Seriously, some of these conspiracy stories.. 'they've been broken up since December, it's all PR, she's hiding in LA, she's hiding in TO, they never dated, Harry made it all up because Meghan forced him, she's flaunting her new H for Harry ring..' Oh wait, the ring isn't new and it's not an H, it's an arrow, she actually is in London.
Not even her charity work is good enough for some, bringing attention to certain issues to improve the lives of others is a good thing, at least she did something and promoted it. IMO, she looked good doing it too, a bonus.
Person Harry's dating always gets huge amount of hate and criticism around social media and he knows it. I don't know whether this relationship will survive (although it does look more and more serious by the day)but I'll repeat: Harry never had a girlfriend as good as Meghan and if they break up I highly doubt he'll have.
Basically it's like this, the MM dislikers are the hard Harry fans that are still in shock, they wanted Harry's gf to be in every single way better than his SIL*, whom he Allegedly admires and praises, which maybe a put off to any potential gf. So since Meg's isn't but slightly only looks like Pippa, the odious essay is calibrated to a frenzy higher level 😂😱
I think Harry just gave the two fingers to the Camilla dislikers. And his daddy is very likely cheering for this relationship. There's nothing the BRF can do to stop a marriage proposal if Harry wants it to happen. Granny and daddy will give him the permission.
*reading past historical threads of who should be Harry's gf and potential bride, easy to come with the conclusion and MM is the antihero. Kate is the stepford wife, reading unconsciously Harry hard fans wanted a super stepford Princess wife for little brother Harry. Funnily enough she also has the initials of the infamous Miss Mystery threads here and there forums. LOL
As soon as all the MM skeletons are out, the better. Because that way both MM and Harry's love may be tested 😉😘
Unlike William's choice Harry's girlfriends have always caused a maelstrom of hate on social media. It's as if all those fanfics that used to be written on Harry's Tumblrs about his romances are all shattered at once for these particular fans when a real flesh and blood female appears. It's like no-one is ever good enough. I'm not talking particularly about posters on this forum but about the craziness in Twitter and Tumblr land where Harry's concerned, especially about MM at the moment.
This has been whipped up to a serious (and libellous) extent by two American witches on their Twitter blogs who've posted a lot of libel and unsubstantiated rumours (including stuff about Cory the chef) since November in a bid to bring MM down. They've tried everything in their efforts to show what an evil person MM is and how stupid and moronic Harry is, and to convince everyone that the couple broke up in December. Ain't working, folks! Just give up!
If this romance lasts then IMO Harry and MM will marry. Those that don't like it will just have to suck it up, I'm afraid. His choice and hers, entirely.
Quote from: wannable on February 07, 2017, 10:57:34 PM
Basically it's like this, the MM dislikers are the hard Harry fans that are still in shock, they wanted Harry's gf to be in every single way better than his SIL*, whom he Allegedly admires and praises, which maybe a put off to any potential gf. So since Meg's isn't but slightly only looks like Pippa, the odious essay is calibrated to a frenzy higher level 😂😱
I think Harry just gave the two fingers to the Camilla dislikers. And his daddy is very likely cheering for this relationship. There's nothing the BRF can do to stop a marriage proposal if Harry wants it to happen. Granny and daddy will give him the permission.
*reading past historical threads of who should be Harry's gf and potential bride, easy to come with the conclusion and MM is the antihero. Kate is the stepford wife, reading unconsciously Harry hard fans wanted a super stepford Princess wife for little brother Harry. Funnily enough she also has the initials of the infamous Miss Mystery threads here and there forums. LOL
As soon as all the MM skeletons are out, the better. Because that way both MM and Harry's love may be tested 😉😘
The Camilla and MEghan situations are totally different. Camilla was the other woman in CHarles' marriage (and both Charles and Diana and Camilla and Andrew had young children). I don't care for Camilla and I like MEghan so I don't think the theory that if you like Camilla you like Meghan really works. Meghan has no children she is a divorcee and Harry is single. Two different scenarios.
I honestly don't think Harry thinks of his Stepmother when he's with Meghan, I don't think he spends much time with Camilla. When Charles first met Camilla he did not even tell her they had a future together and kept her as his married mistress. Harry met Meghan and I think he would want to marry her rather than keeping her on the side while he finds a young woman 12 years younger and Meghan is around as the other woman. Not going to happen IMO.
I honestly don't get the comparisons of Meghan to Camilla. She's nothing like Camilla other than being a divorcee. Two different scenarios
Thanks
@wannable for taking the words right out of my mouth. There is a particularly virulent strain of misogyny and self-righteousness that surrounds Camilla. I see it creeping into Meghan's situation as well. Some would desperately like to believe that Harry hates his dad and his step mum, even when he tells and shows them otherwise. In their dreams Charles will divorce Camilla or she will die a dreadful death so that they can trample on her grave. Better still, they wish for the Queen to have to bury her eldest child and heir so that they can exact their revenge. It is all a fantasy of course. Thankfully fate is not as capricious, unforgiving and as hypocritical as some of the royal family's detractors. Divorce and adultery are no longer taboo. In fact they happen all the time. People just have to deal with it. If Harry loves Meghan then so be it. The rest is noise.
I have my own theory about this so called relationship is a conspiracy theory bu hey speculating is what we are here to do ... Harry was courting both Megan and the younger more attractive model obviously the younger more attractive model was first runner but would have none of it as she was smart enough to see Harry for the player he is ... Megan couldn't bare to find out that Harry was interested in another woman who beat her hands down for obvious reasons that is why the LAWYERS and DRAMA since Day one of this mess ... she played the victim , created drama and created a "us against the world" scenario moronic Harry eat up ... it won't last though and she is experienced enough and know how Harry is to know how this will end that is why she is acting 19 ...
Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 08, 2017, 05:06:22 AM
Thanks @wannable for taking the words right out of my mouth. There is a particularly virulent strain of misogyny and self-righteousness that surrounds Camilla. I see it creeping into Meghan's situation as well. Some would desperately like to believe that Harry hates his dad and his step mum, even when he tells and shows them otherwise. In their dreams Charles will divorce Camilla or she will die a dreadful death so that they can trample on her grave. Better still, they wish for the Queen to have to bury her eldest child and heir so that they can exact their revenge. It is all a fantasy of course. Thankfully fate is not as capricious, unforgiving and as hypocritical as some of the royal family's detractors. Divorce and adultery are no longer taboo. In fact they happen all the time. People just have to deal with it. If Harry loves Meghan then so be it. The rest is noise.
Camila and Meghan can not be compared because camilla divorcee married divorced man and Meghan is divorcee but Harry not... not only divorcee but someone who easily jumps into living in situations...come on Meghan, pay your own bills...
Charles will never object to Harry but please tell me who wants someone with Meghan's history to marry his/her son?
Meghan pays her bills she earns money of her own.
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Quote from: Eri on February 08, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
I have my own theory about this so called relationship is a conspiracy theory bu hey speculating is what we are here to do ... Harry was courting both Megan and the younger more attractive model obviously the younger more attractive model was first runner but would have none of it as she was smart enough to see Harry for the player he is ... Megan couldn't bare to find out that Harry was interested in another woman who beat her hands down for obvious reasons that is why the LAWYERS and DRAMA since Day one of this mess ... she played the victim , created drama and created a "us against the world" scenario moronic Harry eat up ... it won't last though and she is experienced enough and know how Harry is to know how this will end that is why she is acting 19 ...
If you mean Cressida, she and Harry broke up and both knew they could not make a go of a permanent relationship. I think Meghan is attractive but she and the model are no raving beauties but are pretty. How do you know what Meghan thinks?
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 08, 2017, 05:06:22 AM
Thanks @wannable for taking the words right out of my mouth. There is a particularly virulent strain of misogyny and self-righteousness that surrounds Camilla. I see it creeping into Meghan's situation as well. Some would desperately like to believe that Harry hates his dad and his step mum, even when he tells and shows them otherwise. In their dreams Charles will divorce Camilla or she will die a dreadful death so that they can trample on her grave. Better still, they wish for the Queen to have to bury her eldest child and heir so that they can exact their revenge. It is all a fantasy of course. Thankfully fate is not as capricious, unforgiving and as hypocritical as some of the royal family's detractors. Divorce and adultery are no longer taboo. In fact they happen all the time. People just have to deal with it. If Harry loves Meghan then so be it. The rest is noise.
Sorry. I like Meghan but don't like Camilla. So I don't buy into the correlation.
WHo said Harry "hates" anybody (why is that word tossed around that way?). He's a polite person and accepted his stepmother but I doubt spends much time with her.
Nobody said anything of the sort wishing Camilla bad. She and Charles I think they wished Diana bad and their sympathizers write poison pen books about h er.
life is not a fantasy. It is real.
Just who are the "they" exacting their revenge?
Though William obviously prefers the company of the Middletons than his stepmother. But that does not mean he "hates" his stepmother.
And if Charles outlives his mother, he will be the next King. That's a fact not a death wish.
Speaking of misogyny it's interesting how Camilla as a woman made another woman's life miserable.
Leaving aside Camilla, I can't figure out if you like Meghan or not. It's not as if Charles "met someone" when he married Diana and wanted to leave Diana. Camilla was in it from the get go. Adultery can happen all the time and so can theft but it does not make it OK.
^^'Come on Meghan, pay your own bills...' Like Kate, you mean, during the nine or so years she was waiting for William to propose? Yes, Kate paid her own bills, because she had a job... no, wait??
Meghan went to northwestern, and has nothing to be ashamed of in her background at all. If and when she marries Harry she'll be welcomed into the Royal fold just as Kate was, and may well prove to be more hard-working. That shouldn't be difficult!
Quote from: sandy on February 06, 2017, 06:08:24 PM
Hillary Clinton had some brothers who sold pardons. They did not appear with her in public during her campaigns. They stay out of the limelight. I never heard people say she could not be President because of what her brothers did.
You said it, Hillary Clinton IS NOT president of USA right now. Because, you know what, a person's past, what they did, who they are related to, their own accomplishments or scandals DOES highly reflect on him/her. As much as media want to portray Hillary as the smart & clean politician, the history of corruption, nepotism and cheating did haunt her. But I digress, that is politics.
With regards to Meghan, her past, her muddy relationships, her co-dependency on men... yes, they will haunt her even IF she does marry Harry. Take note, I never say she will or won't marry Harry. Unlike the hard-core MM fans here who say "Oh Harry WILL Marry her", or the opposite who say "Harry will dump her like a hot potato".... let's face it, neither side will ever know the real score because we're all on the outside looking in.
My opinion has always been
#1 She isn't good for Harry, plus his image nor the BRF's ;
#2 She'll always be a Social climbing GOOP-wannabe and desperate to join the a rich & elite family institution, thus, she is only thinking of herself and not for the good of Harry, BRF nor the British people.
#3 She tries to join charity and her PR team likes to attach the word "humanitarian" to her resume. But she hasn't really done much except when looking good for the camera. And in reality, her lifestyle betrays what she supposedly stands for. Her Goyard bag could feed a village in Africa. And let's face it, that is not chunk change for her. She's only a supporting cast on Suits.
#4 She is at an age of being a full grown woman, but her history of relationships w/ men shows a person who doesn't honor commitments nor promises. Another related example of flakey commitment , for someone who seems to love her #AdoptDontShop dogs, she seems to be always leaving them behind to travel. And w/ a new bf, her priorities are showing.
#5 I think
@SueElen pointed it out, she doesn't really show much independence and lives /seems to be co-dependent on a string of men. She pays her own bills... ah... maybe yes, maybe no... who knows for sure. But it is evident she's gone from living w/ one man to another. Doesn't matter if they are married or not, for some, marriage is just a paper. It is whether both parties are honorable to keep their love and commitment to each other w/ or w/o a marriage certificate.
And most importantly, when lawyers, managers and PR teams are involved so early in a relationship, I don't think that really bodes well. Does it?
Actions speak louder than words, no matter how much a PR team tries to spin it.
But then, w/ the scandals of the past in the BRF ... from the Wallis Simpson, the Yorks, even Charles .. I shouldn't be surprised that history is repeating itself.
She got elected Senator and became Secretary of State partly because her brothers kept a lower profile. Meghan did not spend ten years doing little waiting for a ring. She supported herself and does not depend on a man to support her. How do you know what Meghan will "always" be? ANd how she thinks of Harry? You leave out that Harry pursued her and wants to be with her. If he did not want to be with her, he would not be with her. Kate had used the media to "win back" William. ANd it "boded well" for her.
Quote from: sandy on February 08, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
She got elected Senator and became Secretary of State partly because her brothers kept a lower profile. Meghan did not spend ten years doing little waiting for a ring. She supported herself and does not depend on a man to support her. How do you know what Meghan will "always" be? ANd how she thinks of Harry? You leave out that Harry pursued her and wants to be with her. If he did not want to be with her, he would not be with her. Kate had used the media to "win back" William. ANd it "boded well" for her.
Actually, those 10 years... yea, Meghan was w/ that ex-husband of hers who is a producer. I'm not saying she didn't try to work, but let's face it, she has a history of co-depency jumping from one man to another.
SO you're saying that Meghan should ask her family to lay low because they are shameful. You just made my case stronger on why her family is another obstacle for her. I know it's not her fault, but in reality, it does matter.
Harry pursued her??? says who? the gossip rags? any confirmation from KP? or Harry? LEt's just put it this way, A manipulator doesn't always seem obvious. Meghan is older and I think she's a smart cookie and knows what she wants and HOW to get it.
YES, Kate used the media to get William. You just re-instated again what I've always been pointing out. That Meghan and HER PR team IS manipulating the media and gossip rags to be on top of this. Just takes keen observation to note it. I'm so angry that her "media exposure" is again overshadowing the Queen's Sapphire Jubilee. Atrocious really. But that's my opinion.
I attended a wedding the past weekend. The priest said something that is so relevant to these times. He said it's kinda sad that people are celebrating "monthsaries" nowadays instead of anniversaries. It seems to set the bar so low. It's like couples can't be expected to stay together long enough to celebrate anniversaries. When people nowadays face troubles or obstacles or (IMO, w/ the case of Meghan) "something better/shinier", they just bail out.
I think it is a relevant observation to the topic we are discussing. Basically, Harry and Meghan relationship is new. It has barely JUST crossed the half a year mark. And they have barely lived in the same continent for long. IT IS a vacation relationship. People are comparing her to Kate and William, well, guess what, when they pass the 8-year mark, then compare away and start the ring countdown. Will they get engaged soon or 3 years from now or NOT???? Who the hell knows. Time always tells.
I don't see being married to someone as "co-dependency." He could have been co-dependent on her. No, I am not asking Meghan to do anything, this is a royal discussion board not a letter to Meghan. Kate's family DID put Gary on the back burner so to speak. So it is done. So you say Meghan went after him? How do you know Harry did not pursue her? She is not 20 years older than he is she's only 3 years older. Meghan has only been in one US paper (the Post) and the Queen's Sapphire Jubilee got much more attention here. So no, she did not "overshadow" the Queen. If Harry did not want to be with her he wouldn't.
'Meghan will always be a social climbing GOOP wannabe -desperate to join an elite institution'. And you know all this how exactly? Do you know Meghan and her feelings about the BRF? Do you know Harry? It seems to me that there's quite a bit of projecting going on here, due to dislike of MM, a person you don't know. You also don't know whether Meghan is in love with Harry and he with her. That's something no-one knows besides the couple involved. Nor do you know what Meghan's effect, if any, will be on the BRF or on Harry. More projecting again.
Meghan will hardly be a social climber or desperate if she marries Harry, will she? If she marries in she'll have already arrived.
I'll do a bit of predicting now. If and when they marry I predict that Meghan will be the breath of fresh air the family needs after the nearly seven years of stodgy Kate and her equally dull husband. I predict that she won't have repeat wardrobe malfunctions, will be able to get through a speech without stuttering, will be able to make smalltalk without uttering dull and inane comments, will meet members of the public without being wooden or dislocating her jaw with over the top grinning, and a few dozen other things But they'll do for now.
I find it mind blowing that the same people who disliked Cressida with a passion and bashed her and all her family/friends like this woman ... like :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: ... I guess they can't really come out and say after bashing Cressida away for not being "good enough" Harry DOWNGRADED to a middle aged divorce with a brother who holds a gun on someone's head and talks to the press daily ... I guess they can't admit karma bit them in the behind for how abusive and mean they were towards a 24 years old who had done NOTHING to deserve it ... I think that is the reason they are here praising Megan because they CELEBRATED like it was NYE when he broke up with Cressida and laughed at her claiming he would do better ... well look at him now ... as I said karma is a powerful thing ...
Sorry, but to say that Meghan seems older, can only be envious. She looks much younger than her age and the other model that was supposedly courted by Harry, I find much less attractive than her. Meghan besides beautiful, also has a natural sensuality
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There are people still dreaming about Harry and the "dull" Cressida, it's comical :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:, Harry is now with a real woman, mature and attractive,
^ Like are we being serious right now? Like really? The model would have had Harry if she really wanted him and that is why Megan created all that drama with LAWYERS in Town since Day one ... as for how old she looks ... she looks 35 ... not a Day younger if you ask me ... the fact she doesn't have Kate's horrid skin doesn't make her look younger ...
^ I'd like you to find any of my posts in which I criticise Cressida or have ever done so. I said countless times that she was quite OK and didn't deserve the abuse. I've already posted that I believe that two influential bloggers have whipped up antagonism on Twitter and blogs among their followers towards this woman, whom they don't know either. Though they have changed their tune since nothing they've predicted has come to pass. That has nothing to do with Cressida B, however
We've already been through the 35 isn't middle aged bit on this forum. No authority regards 35 as being middle aged.
Meghan's 'brother' is in fact a half-sibling whom she hasn't seen for well over a decade, probably fifteen years or more, as you know very well. Her parents have said nothing.
Lots of assumptions here about Meghan and her motives. I assume she'd be the best thing that's happened to BRF for ages. She'd bring charisma and warmth and even work ethic (I'm looking at you Kate) to the Firm. And just judging by their looks
Meghan>>Cressida>>>>>>>Chelsy
While speculation about the current state of Harry and Meghan's relationship and their future is fun, IMO it might be a bit early to discuss what impact a possible marriage and the role that Meghan might perform as Harry's wife would have on the BRF and the UK. :shrug: I'm all for letting the two of them sort it out in private. :thumbsup:
^ I agree ... only they know ... but you should take it on with the people who have them married by June ...
Quote from: Eri on February 08, 2017, 03:28:07 PM
^ Like are we being serious right now? Like really? The model would have had Harry if she really wanted him and that is why Megan created all that drama with LAWYERS in Town since Day one ... as for how old she looks ... she looks 35 ... not a Day younger if you ask me ... the fact she doesn't have Kate's horrid skin doesn't make her look younger ...
Actually she has worst skin, full of moles and freckled very roughly but she wears Fundation and almost all her images are photoshoped. She look matured in the pic from Mumbai airport and in in recent The Sun photo. In the pic with florist her face look more oval and thinner, and she looks thinner at whole body
Sorry
@sandy. Been a way so I did not respond to this query: "I can't figure out if you like Meghan or not". I am not certain at this point. I am waiting to see what she does. I am happy to give her a chance but I am rather interested by the amount of negativity she has garnered. I think it might turn off other prospective royal brides. If your life is going to be put under a microscope, you might as well throw in the towel and look for a "normal" guy. Btw my Camilla comments are about the general atmosphere not anyone in this forum specifically.
^ I won't wait ... all she has done from day one is bring drama and bad PR to Prince dim while I am sure he is figuring out a way to get out of this gracefully ... and he will ... trust me he will as soon as a 20 years old something looks his way Megan will be history and he won't care all that she will throw his way ... the issue here is that no one really wanted/s Harry but this desperado ...
what if they get married?
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Quote from: Eri on February 08, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
I find it mind blowing that the same people who disliked Cressida with a passion and bashed her and all her family/friends like this woman ... like :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: ... I guess they can't really come out and say after bashing Cressida away for not being "good enough" Harry DOWNGRADED to a middle aged divorce with a brother who holds a gun on someone's head and talks to the press daily ... I guess they can't admit karma bit them in the behind for how abusive and mean they were towards a 24 years old who had done NOTHING to deserve it ... I think that is the reason they are here praising Megan because they CELEBRATED like it was NYE when he broke up with Cressida and laughed at her claiming he would do better ... well look at him now ... as I said karma is a powerful thing ...
I don't think people disliked Cressida "with a passion" or disliked her at all. Harry and Cressida called it quits. Actually, some of the articles about Cressida did put down Harry. The Cressida-Harry dating is history. I don't know why Cressida would want to stay in a relationship where the man rushed ahead of her. Or Harry staying with her if he did not feel comfortable with her. I was rooting for Chelsy but that did not work out and she and Harry moved on too. Life does happen.
To say that Meghan's skin is worse than Kate's skin, it's a joke. Kate has the skin of a 50-year-old woman. It has wrinkles and I do not know how to say English, chiken feet ...,prominent wrinkles around eyes, Meghan has beautiful skin, freckles were never sign of aging, even children have freckles and she has black genetics, blacks have excellent skin . She has appeared several times without makeup in instagram and do not believe in phothoshop all the time, is that the Envy and hatred of some, prevent them from seeing the truth. If I did not know her age, I'd give her a maximum of 27. And Harry liked her, that's what matters, he must find her beautiful :hug: :hug:
My opinion to the conversation here is someone is very bitter Cressida wasn't the chosen bride...Looks wise Meghan looks better than BOTH Cressida AND Chelsy,Meghan looks like she is in her late 20's and her freckles are naturally beautiful.Why put another woman down?
^ No more bitter with people who bashed her and like this one we are dealing with now ... Cressida has moved on to date a younger, richer and more attractive man ... get a grip no one is crying about Cressida DOGGING A BULLET ... my problem is with some people's HYPOCRISY ... I can't figure people out this days it seems Cressida was bashed because she had Instagram and was an actress and her brother was a public person ... this one is an actress , has Instagram and her brother talks to the press daily and hold a gun on someone's head and I have to read she would be a breath of fresh air for the BRF ...
She is not even a royal yet and the British and others are buying up everything she wears and sales.
The last beanie she wore while out shopping in London a day or two ago is all sold out. That ring that she just bought, the store's website has had a major surge in visitors to their site to like 5000. And a couple weeks ago her own clothing sold out.
I love this!
Quote from: Cat00 on February 06, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
Harry is going to marry Meghan and not her family. No problem with her parents, the brothers who are troublesome, but she has no fault and it seems she does not even have contact with them.It would be stupid to condemn a person like her, full of qualities, because of relatives :no:
This is exactly correct. Also when Meghan weds Prince Henry she is not marrying the Mountbatten-Windsor family.
^^^But she does become a part of it!!! Without a title her new last name would be Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor if she chooses to take Harry's family name.
Quote from: Eri on February 08, 2017, 08:54:08 PM
^ No more bitter with people who bashed her and like this one we are dealing with now ... Cressida has moved on to date a younger, richer and more attractive man ... get a grip no one is crying about Cressida DOGGING A BULLET ... my problem is with some people's HYPOCRISY ... I can't figure people out this days it seems Cressida was bashed because she had Instagram and was an actress and her brother was a public person ... this one is an actress , has Instagram and her brother talks to the press daily and hold a gun on someone's head and I have to read she would be a breath of fresh air for the BRF ...
Meghan is taking quite the bashing on this board and others. Cressida used her PR to promote herself as actress/model. Meghan uses PR too. I have not seen much about Meghan's brother who I think is over the 15 minutes of "infamy."
^^^Yes it is sad to see how Meghan or anyone else is "bashed" by people who have never met her.
I just looked over some of the recent posts. Having an opinion is one thing but when some of you start attacking her physical appearance such as her skin. THAT IS CROSSING THE LINE!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH COMMENTS!!! We don't know her!
By making such comments you are opening the door to an area of discussion that should not touched. Don't go there!!
I've just realised something.....from certain angles Meghan looks like Pippa!!!! :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Anyone else sees this????
^ Some have seen a resemblance to Pippa. IMO if there is one it's fleeting and only at certain angles. Pippa's bone structure is nearer to her father's than her mum's, I think, while Meghan has a mixture of influences.
Quote from: Yale on February 09, 2017, 03:47:22 AM
I just looked over some of the recent posts. Having an opinion is one thing but when some of you start attacking her physical appearance such as her skin. THAT IS CROSSING THE LINE!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH COMMENTS!!! We don't know her!
By making such comments you are opening the door to an area of discussion that should not touched. Don't go there!!
Besides the fact I said she has an overall OK skin ... this is hilarious ... how is talking about her skin crossing the line? Didn't she talk about her skin routine on her blog very recently? No one is immune to criticism especially the ones who COURT the attention ... Megan is fair game ...
Quote from: Yale on February 09, 2017, 03:47:22 AM
I just looked over some of the recent posts. Having an opinion is one thing but when some of you start attacking her physical appearance such as her skin. THAT IS CROSSING THE LINE!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH COMMENTS!!! We don't know her!
By making such comments you are opening the door to an area of discussion that should not touched. Don't go there!!
She is 35 old lady and she has wrinkled forehead same as Kate but better photoshop her face to look slimmer and more oval.
Kate is commented from the head to the toe, called lazy, old and etc... Meghan may appears younger because she dresses as a teenager and has more meat on her head than Kate... her uuper body does not match the lower body...
Yes, she looks like Pipa, especially when she had lighter hair...
The woman looks all her 35 years ... some are being ridiculous ... Chelsy and Cressida both look better than her and both tolled Prince dim where to go ...
All of 35 years! YOu make it sound like she's 90. 35 is not "old."
^ Le sight ... that is NOT what I meant ... I was just responding to the ridiculous claim she looks 10 years younger ... she looks 35 ... some times KATE looks better ... speaking of ... I wonder how happy she is right now that Harry has this mess on his hands that makes her and her family look classy and every inch of a Princess ...
QuoteAll bets are on for Prince Harry engagement
The International betting firm, Betway has the odds that Prince Harry will put a ring on Meghan Markle's finger by the end of 2017.
The US Actress was recently seen with an 'H' gold ring, sending the chances that Harry asks her to marry him into the evens; the lowest they have been since it was first discovered that the pair were dating in October 2016.
The other popular betting options on the couple have also decreased. Chances they get married this year are 10/1 and with the same odds that Miss Markle will be pregnant by the end of 2017.
Read more:
All bets are on for Prince Harry engagement – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/all-bets-are-on-for-prince-harry-engagement-76184)
^^
Meghan looks younger yes, that's a fact. I've seen several people commenting on this. For me she seems to be the same age as Harry's ex-girlfriends and I say one more time, RIDICULOUS is the one who attacks Meghan because wanted Harry to be with ex girlfriend :wacko:
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I bet they got engaged in 2017 :wub: :wub:
Quote from: Cat00 on February 09, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
^^
Meghan looks younger yes, that's a fact. I've seen several people commenting on this. For me she seems to be the same age as Harry's ex-girlfriends and I say one more time, RIDICULOUS is the one who attacks Meghan because wanted Harry to be with ex girlfriend :wacko:
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In the photo from Mumbai airport, she looks like his aunt...
But I agree that she behaves like a girl, H on ring, on everything, bracelets he uses to brand his girlfriends after the fifth date and her duck face ...
^
I bet they got engaged in 2017 :wub: :wub:
Harry must find Meghan beautiful and young, that is why he fell in love with her, the opinion of "envious", it does not matter :hehe: :hehe:
The Queen Has to Approve Prince Harry Proposing to Meghan Markle (http://people.com/royals/why-prince-harry-would-need-granny-queen-elizabeths-approval-before-proposing-to-meghan-markle/)
Yes, the Queen's permission is certainly in Harry's position. However, Richard Palmer, in discussing some aspects of the romance stated that (to the Royal family) Harry's happiness is paramount. Therefore, unless they find criminal convictions for drug smuggling/axe murdering in MM's past, I'd say it's a given once the couple have made their minds up. Not yet though!
Going off topic, but I have to keep reminding myself that MM doesn't just mean Mette-Marit anymore. I couldn't understand why the Norwegian Crown Princess' initials kept popping up in this thread. :lol:
Once they are engaged, I hope they do 2 interviews one in Britain one in the US. Just one in each country. Personally, I want to see Harry put these Meghan attackers in their places politely but firmly and clearly.
^ Harry tried to defend Meghan and attack internet trolls in the KP statement of October last year and was trashed all over social media for it as a result. Who's to say that any post-engagement statements 'putting attackers straight' will go down with them any better?
^^^I have to agree
@Curryong. Harry can defend Meghan everyday and it still won't stop the negative remarks. Most public figures have their detractors for a variety of reasons.
Quote from: Cat00 on February 09, 2017, 06:48:56 PM
Harry must find Meghan beautiful and young, that is why he fell in love with her, the opinion of "envious", it does not matter :hehe: :hehe:
Calling people envious and saying their opinion doesn't matter WOW ... be careful ... if you think this will have a happy ending for your Megan you will be disappointed ... right now he has only be seen with her twice ... he will ditch her and will move on into the next pretty soon and then you will be the object of childish taunting ...
I think this is leading to a marriage and I am not sure how I feel about it.
I've stated what I like about Meghan. She is beautiful, she has had a career and made her own money, she is stylish, she has great taste, she is clearly smart enough to be able to study in one of the top colleges in the US. And of course her being biracial is a plus IMO, though there are some people who see this as a disadvantage, I won't even go there.
My reservations may weigh heavier however.
First let me get this out of the way, Kate is criticized for every tiny thing she does; yet there is an expectation that Meghan should be off limits, which is ridiculous.
I feel this relationship is too celebrity. The latest news bit from People, which I believe is fed by either MM or KP, is that they feel like they've known each for a long time. This is celebrity talk. This is not a private royal couple tidbit. MM and her ex-husband had their wedding confirmed to Hollywood Reporter at the time with details. Their breakup was again confirmed to US Weekly at the time. This is not a woman who wants to conduct her private life privately.
She is a celebrity. And she clearly wants fame. I see people argue the opposite, yet an Instagram account full of personal photos, a life style website aspiring to be goop (which she confirmed herself and that is another issue I have, i cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow and her aspiration to be like her for me confirms that she's interested in that kind of status), name dropping, making contacts with people (the lovable, ultra feminist and not-a-human-scumbag-at-all Piers Morgan) for no reason other than to further her fame all suggest otherwise.
All the news items we've read on the US media conform to the fact that this is a celebrity coupling. I have issues with that as for me royalty should not be celebrity, if so, let's abolish it.
Another problem I have is how she is portrayed as this great a humanitarian, activist. This bothers me. First of all, credit where credit is due, she did go to India, so good for her.
Issues I have: She's new to this game. I've watched her interview on Larry King, IIRC, she says she wrote something on The Tig about women rights and the UN contacted her after that. She's not actively sought to be a charitable person. Her work with World Vision is quite new likewise. I mean, I've done more charity work and activism than she did and I do not consider myself as a great humanitarian or an activist. Chelsy has been doing a lot charity work, her new line of work has a humanitarian aspect to it, yet it's Meghan, who unlike all his exes is an activist?
I've mentioned that on the Larry King interview, she messes up a bit. She did not identify that it is the Rwandan parliament which had the greatest ratio of women in the world. She first said, the government, then senators. No, it is the members of the parliament. That is fine for someone casually talking about this and making this mistake. For me, I knew this cause I've read it somewhere some time ago (which I had to recheck after watching her interview to see if I misremembered). But she went to Rwanda, she is the advocate, she is on a TV show to talk about this. I find this a bit offputting. And yes I've read people praise her preparedness. Let me remind you that people also praise Kate, William, Harry, though some of us are rather selective in choosing which one of those praises we believe. When it comes to celebrities and famous people, the bar is set so low that the tiniest good thing, effort, knowledge becomes groundbreaking.
Last note, KP did not release the letter in October, it was November 8, the day of the US presidential elections, and the timing to me was suspicious, why do this on the day of the US elections? MM wanted to prove that she's so big now, she can steal limelight on the day of the US elections? Why not wait until the next day?
Quote from: psm on February 10, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
I think this is leading to a marriage and I am not sure how I feel about it.
I've stated what I like about Meghan. She is beautiful, she has had a career and made her own money, she is stylish, she has great taste, she is clearly smart enough to be able to study in one of the top colleges in the US. And of course her being biracial is a plus IMO, though there are some people who see this as a disadvantage, I won't even go there.
My reservations may weigh heavier however.
First let me get this out of the way, Kate is criticized for every tiny thing she does; yet there is an expectation that Meghan should be off limits, which is ridiculous.
I feel this relationship is too celebrity. The latest news bit from People, which I believe is fed by either MM or KP, is that they feel like they've known each for a long time. This is celebrity talk. This is not a private royal couple tidbit. MM and her ex-husband had their wedding confirmed to Hollywood Reporter at the time with details. Their breakup was again confirmed to US Weekly at the time. This is not a woman who wants to conduct her private life privately.
She is a celebrity. And she clearly wants fame. I see people argue the opposite, yet an Instagram account full of personal photos, a life style website aspiring to be goop (which she confirmed herself and that is another issue I have, i cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow and her aspiration to be like her for me confirms that she's interested in that kind of status), name dropping, making contacts with people (the lovable, ultra feminist and not-a-human-scumbag-at-all Piers Morgan) for no reason other than to further her fame all suggest otherwise.
All the news items we've read on the US media conform to the fact that this is a celebrity coupling. I have issues with that as for me royalty should not be celebrity, if so, let's abolish it.
Another problem I have is how she is portrayed as this great a humanitarian, activist. This bothers me. First of all, credit where credit is due, she did go to India, so good for her.
Issues I have: She's new to this game. I've watched her interview on Larry King, IIRC, she says she wrote something on The Tig about women rights and the UN contacted her after that. She's not actively sought to be a charitable person. Her work with World Vision is quite new likewise. I mean, I've done more charity work and activism than she did and I do not consider myself as a great humanitarian or an activist. Chelsy has been doing a lot charity work, her new line of work has a humanitarian aspect to it, yet it's Meghan, who unlike all his exes is an activist?
I've mentioned that on the Larry King interview, she messes up a bit. She did not identify that it is the Rwandan parliament which had the greatest ratio of women in the world. She first said, the government, then senators. No, it is the members of the parliament. That is fine for someone casually talking about this and making this mistake. For me, I knew this cause I've read it somewhere some time ago (which I had to recheck after watching her interview to see if I misremembered). But she went to Rwanda, she is the advocate, she is on a TV show to talk about this. I find this a bit offputting. And yes I've read people praise her preparedness. Let me remind you that people also praise Kate, William, Harry, though some of us are rather selective in choosing which one of those praises we believe. When it comes to celebrities and famous people, the bar is set so low that the tiniest good thing, effort, knowledge becomes groundbreaking.
Last note, KP did not release the letter in October, it was November 8, the day of the US presidential elections, and the timing to me was suspicious, why do this on the day of the US elections? MM wanted to prove that she's so big now, she can steal limelight on the day of the US elections? Why not wait until the next day?
Thank you for the post, exactly my opinion also...
Just to add some topics... do we really belive that UN officials reads the tig and her rather teenage style of writing besides so many wanderful female persons including more recognized actresses? She had some connections for it..
Second, how reliable and stable is a woman who in past four years dovorced ber ex husband, lived for 2 years with another perosn and now in serious relationship for several months with the trhird one???
Also, which is streachy the newest pic from the Sun were taken before becaue that Wednesday the Soho was ooked for some private party and paparazzi allegedly stated they wew taken in October...
Quote from: Curryong on February 10, 2017, 10:06:20 AM
^ Harry tried to defend Meghan and attack internet trolls in the KP statement of October last year and was trashed all over social media for it as a result. Who's to say that any post-engagement statements 'putting attackers straight' will go down with them any better?
No it won't. It's a personal wish of mine due to certain posters and post on this forum.
In Harry's shoes I would have been much more brutal in that KP statement towards the press and all social media outlets. But that's me.We all have opinions about these topic regarding Harry. But when all is said and done, it's none of our business. If Harry wants to a marry Meghan, that is EXACTLY what he will do. So complain to your heart's content. It won't change anything.
The Windsor family is filled with unreliable and less than stable people, now and in the past. Some women would not even date people in the royal family. Though sometimes the "unconventional relationship can fool people. The Seinfelds have been married for years now and it has worked out but Jerry started dating Jessica when she was just married to her first husband!
Quote from: psm on February 10, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
I think this is leading to a marriage and I am not sure how I feel about it.
I've stated what I like about Meghan. She is beautiful, she has had a career and made her own money, she is stylish, she has great taste, she is clearly smart enough to be able to study in one of the top colleges in the US. And of course her being biracial is a plus IMO, though there are some people who see this as a disadvantage, I won't even go there.
My reservations may weigh heavier however.
First let me get this out of the way, Kate is criticized for every tiny thing she does; yet there is an expectation that Meghan should be off limits, which is ridiculous.
I feel this relationship is too celebrity. The latest news bit from People, which I believe is fed by either MM or KP, is that they feel like they've known each for a long time. This is celebrity talk. This is not a private royal couple tidbit. MM and her ex-husband had their wedding confirmed to Hollywood Reporter at the time with details. Their breakup was again confirmed to US Weekly at the time. This is not a woman who wants to conduct her private life privately.
She is a celebrity. And she clearly wants fame. I see people argue the opposite, yet an Instagram account full of personal photos, a life style website aspiring to be goop (which she confirmed herself and that is another issue I have, i cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow and her aspiration to be like her for me confirms that she's interested in that kind of status), name dropping, making contacts with people (the lovable, ultra feminist and not-a-human-scumbag-at-all Piers Morgan) for no reason other than to further her fame all suggest otherwise.
All the news items we've read on the US media conform to the fact that this is a celebrity coupling. I have issues with that as for me royalty should not be celebrity, if so, let's abolish it.
Another problem I have is how she is portrayed as this great a humanitarian, activist. This bothers me. First of all, credit where credit is due, she did go to India, so good for her.
Issues I have: She's new to this game. I've watched her interview on Larry King, IIRC, she says she wrote something on The Tig about women rights and the UN contacted her after that. She's not actively sought to be a charitable person. Her work with World Vision is quite new likewise. I mean, I've done more charity work and activism than she did and I do not consider myself as a great humanitarian or an activist. Chelsy has been doing a lot charity work, her new line of work has a humanitarian aspect to it, yet it's Meghan, who unlike all his exes is an activist?
I've mentioned that on the Larry King interview, she messes up a bit. She did not identify that it is the Rwandan parliament which had the greatest ratio of women in the world. She first said, the government, then senators. No, it is the members of the parliament. That is fine for someone casually talking about this and making this mistake. For me, I knew this cause I've read it somewhere some time ago (which I had to recheck after watching her interview to see if I misremembered). But she went to Rwanda, she is the advocate, she is on a TV show to talk about this. I find this a bit offputting. And yes I've read people praise her preparedness. Let me remind you that people also praise Kate, William, Harry, though some of us are rather selective in choosing which one of those praises we believe. When it comes to celebrities and famous people, the bar is set so low that the tiniest good thing, effort, knowledge becomes groundbreaking.
Last note, KP did not release the letter in October, it was November 8, the day of the US presidential elections, and the timing to me was suspicious, why do this on the day of the US elections? MM wanted to prove that she's so big now, she can steal limelight on the day of the US elections? Why not wait until the next day?
The useless trio want to be celebs ... badly ... that is why Harry is dating this z lister ... at least he could have aimed higher if a D lister would actually want him ...
Quote from: SueElen on February 10, 2017, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: psm on February 10, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
I think this is leading to a marriage and I am not sure how I feel about it.
I've stated what I like about Meghan. She is beautiful, she has had a career and made her own money, she is stylish, she has great taste, she is clearly smart enough to be able to study in one of the top colleges in the US. And of course her being biracial is a plus IMO, though there are some people who see this as a disadvantage, I won't even go there.
My reservations may weigh heavier however.
First let me get this out of the way, Kate is criticized for every tiny thing she does; yet there is an expectation that Meghan should be off limits, which is ridiculous.
I feel this relationship is too celebrity. The latest news bit from People, which I believe is fed by either MM or KP, is that they feel like they've known each for a long time. This is celebrity talk. This is not a private royal couple tidbit. MM and her ex-husband had their wedding confirmed to Hollywood Reporter at the time with details. Their breakup was again confirmed to US Weekly at the time. This is not a woman who wants to conduct her private life privately.
She is a celebrity. And she clearly wants fame. I see people argue the opposite, yet an Instagram account full of personal photos, a life style website aspiring to be goop (which she confirmed herself and that is another issue I have, i cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow and her aspiration to be like her for me confirms that she's interested in that kind of status), name dropping, making contacts with people (the lovable, ultra feminist and not-a-human-scumbag-at-all Piers Morgan) for no reason other than to further her fame all suggest otherwise.
All the news items we've read on the US media conform to the fact that this is a celebrity coupling. I have issues with that as for me royalty should not be celebrity, if so, let's abolish it.
Another problem I have is how she is portrayed as this great a humanitarian, activist. This bothers me. First of all, credit where credit is due, she did go to India, so good for her.
Issues I have: She's new to this game. I've watched her interview on Larry King, IIRC, she says she wrote something on The Tig about women rights and the UN contacted her after that. She's not actively sought to be a charitable person. Her work with World Vision is quite new likewise. I mean, I've done more charity work and activism than she did and I do not consider myself as a great humanitarian or an activist. Chelsy has been doing a lot charity work, her new line of work has a humanitarian aspect to it, yet it's Meghan, who unlike all his exes is an activist?
I've mentioned that on the Larry King interview, she messes up a bit. She did not identify that it is the Rwandan parliament which had the greatest ratio of women in the world. She first said, the government, then senators. No, it is the members of the parliament. That is fine for someone casually talking about this and making this mistake. For me, I knew this cause I've read it somewhere some time ago (which I had to recheck after watching her interview to see if I misremembered). But she went to Rwanda, she is the advocate, she is on a TV show to talk about this. I find this a bit offputting. And yes I've read people praise her preparedness. Let me remind you that people also praise Kate, William, Harry, though some of us are rather selective in choosing which one of those praises we believe. When it comes to celebrities and famous people, the bar is set so low that the tiniest good thing, effort, knowledge becomes groundbreaking.
Last note, KP did not release the letter in October, it was November 8, the day of the US presidential elections, and the timing to me was suspicious, why do this on the day of the US elections? MM wanted to prove that she's so big now, she can steal limelight on the day of the US elections? Why not wait until the next day?
Thank you for the post, exactly my opinion also...
Just to add some topics... do we really belive that UN officials reads the tig and her rather teenage style of writing besides so many wanderful female persons including more recognized actresses? She had some connections for it..
Second, how reliable and stable is a woman who in past four years dovorced ber ex husband, lived for 2 years with another perosn and now in serious relationship for several months with the trhird one???
Also, which is streachy the newest pic from the Sun were taken before becaue that Wednesday the Soho was ooked for some private party and paparazzi allegedly stated they wew taken in October...
From my experience, I don't see what is so challenging to believe. Regular people work at the UN. They eat, shop and do things like ordinary people. My friend's sister works at the UN and when she comes back home to our small town, she does normal things like us non-UN workers, you know like read fun lifestyle blogs, watch TV, shop at regular retail shops, not just the high-end ones...
Connections and networking are part of regular, every day life, why not use it to ones advantage? It can benefit yourself and others.
Sometimes relationships, just like other things in life, do not work out. If at first you don't succeed, try, try and try again. There were lots of things going on all over the world on the day of the US election, why should everyone stop doing their activities because of an election?
Nonsense, to believe that KP releasing a statement could overshadow an election. It certainly did not stop my daily activities because of the election or the KP letter. And if the letter had been released the day after the election, people still would have complained, so it was good to be released exactly when it was.
PH chose who he wants to be with at the present time. I'm happy for him and MM. It's other people who will have to learn to get over it. As the KP letter said, its her life and his. I wish them the best!
^^ Just a few points in reply from psm's post, and Eri's.
Meghan was approached by World Vision Canada, did some work for them and from then on has continued and made a speech at the UN as a result of that. It is the media who has characterised her as a great humanitarian not Meghan herself. She worked in a soup kitchen in LA in her mid teens, so I wouldn't say that her charitable work is new.
Meghan was with her husband for many years before their brief marriage. It was distance that did for them. I have known tons of attractive women divorcees with a far worse dating history than Meghan's in a four year span. She's thirty five and had had serious romances with three men. Big Deal! Meghan's romance with the chef seems to have broken up in May. We don't know when she and Harry began dating, possibly June.
I think a bit of a muddle over the Rawandan parliamentary system is excusable in an American who is doing an interview with a man who is not a political commentator but who specialises in fairly light interviews. After all, royals have made mistakes, William's contremps about the EU in one speech which was regarded as biased comes to mind.
At least Meghan doesn't stutter or strain when she's giving interviews or making speeches, look wooden when she's meeting people, grin meaninglessly, or have difficulty making smalltalk with others.
I saw a clip where she was signing autographs and chatting with New Yorkers years before Harry. She was delightful, charming and funny and I was impressed, actually. As an actor Meghan will be a quick read and therefore will be able to absorb facts and figures if she becomes a Royal. It's not likely she'd make that mistake again.
The Soho House being completely booked out for a book reading on the night of Meghan and Harry's date was a myth that was jumped on by the two Twitter witches who have gone to great lengths to try and state that Harry and Meghan are no longer dating. Not true. People who know Soho House's layout stated on Twitter that one floor can be booked out by companies and organisations, which is what the book club did. There is another floor containing a restaurant with booths which is open every day.
As has been stated before, it doesn't matter what anyone else says. They two Twitter/blog creatures who've created one hell of a lot of false and libellous rumours, and their little anons, can twist themselves into pretzel shapes trying to prove this and that with the aid of Google maps etc, (very amusing,) in their efforts to prove God knows what.
People on forums like this one can point out this woman's failings and Harry's so-called stupidity, can moan to their hearts content all over Tumblr and blogs that they don't like Meghan, a woman they don't know, and about Harry, a man they don't know either. It won't matter one iota.
If Harry and Meghan decide they want to get married then they will, whatever anyone on social media thinks or says.
Quote from: psm on February 10, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
I think this is leading to a marriage and I am not sure how I feel about it.
I've stated what I like about Meghan. She is beautiful, she has had a career and made her own money, she is stylish, she has great taste, she is clearly smart enough to be able to study in one of the top colleges in the US. And of course her being biracial is a plus IMO, though there are some people who see this as a disadvantage, I won't even go there.
My reservations may weigh heavier however.
She is a celebrity. And she clearly wants fame. I see people argue the opposite, yet an Instagram account full of personal photos, a life style website aspiring to be goop (which she confirmed herself and that is another issue I have, i cannot stand Gwyneth Paltrow and her aspiration to be like her for me confirms that she's interested in that kind of status), name dropping, making contacts with people (the lovable, ultra feminist and not-a-human-scumbag-at-all Piers Morgan) for no reason other than to further her fame all suggest otherwise.
All the news items we've read on the US media conform to the fact that this is a celebrity coupling. I have issues with that as for me royalty should not be celebrity, if so, let's abolish it.
Hi, I'm a long time reader, but new to posting. I too think Prince Harry will marry her since he's ready to settle and I too am of two minds regarding Meghan for a lot of the reasons noted above.
She is beautiful and clearly a VERY HARD worker. She's in a very competitive field where she is working consistently even though it may not be well known work. She also makes the most of her opportunities which is a good thing. She has delved into charity work. And I consistently hear from people who have met her that she has a magnetic personality and is very ambitious. All of these will serve her well as a part of the BRF.
But there are several other things that I find just...off putting.
I get a narcissistic and shallow vibe from her personal Instagram and Tig website. I tried to discount the social media since people only tend to present the best parts of their lives on social media so we don't get the 360 degree view of someone. But a friend pointed out that if selfies, food and name dropping are the best of parts of someone's life, the priorities and/or personalities are pretty shallow. As for the website, it's just not my cup of tea. I tried reading over the 'Influencers' section since it's more my style, but the questions she asks some well known people are...juvenile at best. I'd rather hear what Heidi Klum thinks about her work with the Red Cross, not what her nickname is or what she thinks is the one item that makes everything taste better. Same with Serena Williams. And then there was the whole "How to Be Both" post. There was very little serious thought behind it, just a recounting of how much she loves charity work and then an anecdote about her being in Rwanda for charity work and getting called to go the BAFTAs. If this is a statement about Who She Is, there doesn't seem to be a lot of depth.
Second, she has made a lot of 'changes' to herself and her image since starting to date Prince Harry. She stopped posting to her personal IG, she stopped interacting with her fans on Twitter, she's stopped writing original content for her website, she stopped doing interviews, and (if the media is true) she's basically moved to London to be with Prince Harry. While individual sacrifices are necessary for the good of the relationship, it's not good to completely change who you are and what you do for your significant other. I hope she doesn't wake up one day and hate who she is after all these changes.
But my last concern is my biggest. She will be entering a family where putting the spotlight on UK charities and honouring others is what they do and essentially is their job. They aren't celebrities and they usually aren't activists; they are public figures who focus on charities. And I don't think she grasps this. Based on her "How to Be Both" essay she puts herself out there as a humanitarian, but every time she has posted or written something about her charity work or activism, it's more about that she participated without a mention of or a discussion about the charity's work she is supporting. I watched her speech from the UN Women's Day ?in 2015?, and basically its a story about 'How She Became an Women's Rights' Activist' (I'm not going to get into whether the incident could have happened; that another discussion), but what I was struck by was that the speech was all about her. There was no call to action for broadening women's rights, there was nothing about highlighting the UN's extensive work on women's rights, just a story about herself. When she becomes a member of the BRF, it's not going to go over well if all she does is talk about herself without discussing the charity of which she is a Royal Patron. The charities certainly aren't going to like it when the press articles are all about her rather than what the charity does. To be clear, my issue is not about the fact that she takes the opportunity to indulge in a little self promotion, it's that that she is all self promotion without taking the oportunity to put the spotlight on the charity at the same time. ...I hope this last point is clear.
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For everyone else...An additional note. I forgot to add to the shallowness section. Narcissism and shallowness in and of themselves isn't a bad thing, but Prince Harry seems like such decent person who cares a lot about others based on his actions and the overwhelming comments from people who know him and I would hope that he doesn't choose a mate whose focus is mainly self centered. I just think that caring people deserve caring mates.
I tell you what, those that dislike Meghan so much, write to Harry through his staff and express how you feel see and if the really cares.
He'll tell his staff to trash them and won't give your feelings a second thought much less a first IF that.
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I read the Tig and I like it as it gives be a little break from all of the encompassing research papers that I have to review. Not all of the articles are of interest me, I read the ones that I want to. I found the post about "How to be both" ok, it was about her experience. What I also liked is that she did provide links to find out more about the charities that she wrote about. And I followed those links.
"How to be both" links to the "World Water Day" article. In it, Meghan explains about that programme, the enormous challenges that some families are facing and her experience in Rwanda. It also has direct links to the World Vision website, so the reader is provided an easy link to read even more if they so desire. And I did take that initiative. IMO, this article covers all of the bases for promoting the charity and personal promotion.
As an actress, part of her job is to promote herself. If she moves onto a different role, you just have to reapply those skills, no different from changing a profession or way of life. If you really want to do something you put into it what is necessary to accomplish it.
Hi ElBeJay, and welcome to this forum.
In answer to your post, I do think that MM is probably inclined to self-promote and navel-gaze. She is after all in an industry where the vast majority of actors/actresses do precisely that. They have to always look out for the next part and keep their names in the public eye if possible. After all, show business is notoriously insecure, and it gets worse as the person gets older.
About 95% of actors are unemployed at any one time, so having any sort of a known profile at all is an achievement, IMO. That constant sense of nagging insecurity about a career one loves must be awful, which is why, although I've been in an amateur drama group and enjoyed it, I'd never choose acting as a career.
The Tig is a blog I've hardly ever read. However, it's like many others of the same type, I'd guess, and some must like it, as it was successful before she met Harry. It's supposed to bring her in about $100,000 in cash and kind per year, I've read.
Meghan is an enthusiastic foodie, so I'm not surprised that The Tig is full of tips on food and recommendations to restaurants as cooking, eating and eating out interest her. She gets endorsements from it and from the handbags and jewellery and interior design tips she posts there. That may not be very admirable in some people's eyes but Meghan makes additional income from it and it's another string to her bow.
Surely being open to other things like designing for Reitmans stores or starting up a blog to showcase food and other interests shows initiative and some business nous? However, Meghan is serious about her romance with Harry and as you've noted she has pulled right back on the self-promotion, on The Tig and on her social media generally.
Meghan's a woman of some intelligence. Through Harry she must know what the BRF is about by now. She is adapting because she wants to be with Harry and wants to be accepted by his family. What she may feel in a few years who knows, but IMO Meghan is really trying to change, and if she and Harry marry I believe she knows that Hollywood attitudes and ways of doing things will have to disappear if she is to become a successful member of the BRF.
By the way, as far as the British tabloids are concerned when do any charities appear at the forefront when reporting on the younger senior royals. Harry's Invictus and Sentebale perhaps, but Heads Together is often full of stunts like the trios foot race, and all of Kate's engagements invariably concentrate on her hair and clothing. There are sometimes several paragraphs on that and a couple of little vignettes inserted about comments she made to people. The charity seems to limp in last.
Even just thinking lightly about it, from The Queen, Princess Ann to Kate, there's more focus about 'what she wore' than the actual charity. I mean, magazines and books are printed about Royal Fashion over the actual charity that they were attending when the outfit was worn.
Off topic for this section, however, I'm glad to see that The Sun with their irresponsible reporting has now issued an apology to Meghan and Harry.
Miss Meghan Markle - An Apology (https://www.thesun.co.uk/clarifications/2838630/clarification-miss-meghan-markle-an-apology/)
That article was completely unacceptable, and I'm glad to see KP following through with complaints to the tribunal. This sort of thing was what was probably referred to in the KP November statement as nightly legal battles.
Quote from: Curryong on February 11, 2017, 12:41:17 AM
Miss Meghan Markle - An Apology (https://www.thesun.co.uk/clarifications/2838630/clarification-miss-meghan-markle-an-apology/)
That article was completely unacceptable, and I'm glad to see KP following through with complaints to the tribunal. This sort of thing was what was probably referred to in the KP November statement as nightly legal battles.
I read the apology but nothing about this being taken to court?? WOW! If he took this to court, WOW! Harry is not playing around!! Is that why this apology was issued 4 and half months too late?
AGAIN..... DID HARRY TAKE LEGAL ACTION OF SOME SORT IN BRITAIN??
Thanks @LadyDeb for your thoughts. As always, these are my thoughts and variety is the spice of life. So if you enjoy reading The Tig, by all means please continue reading. As I said, it not my cup of tea.
I don't think I'm explaining the self promotion vs just promotion concept very well. I'll see if I can give an example illustrating the difference. There is difference between me saying saying ''You know, I go yearly to Uganda with the ACP to run a medical clinic for diabetics.' and 'You know, the ACP runs clinics in Uganda for diabetics on a yearly basis and I go every year.' The main emphasis in each statement different, even if it's subtle. The first one is on the speaker and the second is on the charity. Meghan does the first. Said bluntly, she publicises her connection with the charity over the charity itself. If you are looking for an example of the second, take a look at Emma Watson's personal IG, she does an excellent job of highlighting her causes without emphasising herself over her charities. Regardless, senior royals in the BRF don't emphasise themselves over the charity. Prince Harry doesn't do it with his private charity Sentebale, his conservation work, or with Invictus Games. I think this a better explanation than my last.
As to comparing this to changing skills sets, this is personality issue, not a learned skill, so it would be very hard to change (but not impossible). Most people who only self promote without promoting others have a underlying craving for limelight which you don't get when you are promoting something or someone else, since the emphasis is either shared or on the other entity and not yourself. (This isn't up for debate BTW, there is loads of research stating this exact thing.)
As for the 'How to be both' article...I only read it once, but the impression of left me with "Wow, she sounds really narcissistic.' but I'll reread it and see if I can't be more specific about why I think that.
Thanks again for your thoughts.
^ With regard to the Sun apology. KP would have lodged a complaint with the Independent Press Standards Organisation of Great Britain. This may or may not have come after protracted legal negotiations with the Sun regarding Meghan being labelled as a porn star by the newspaper. The Sun may, who knows, have stood on its hind legs at first and argued that what it printed was 'in the public interest'. It clearly wasn't and so KP may well have reached an impasse and decided to lodge a complaint rather than sue. Both processes are lengthy.
The Independent Press Standards Association (IPSO) is a voluntary and independent body that regulates the content of all major British newspapers and magazines (print media.) It is chaired by Sir Alan Moses. IPSO doesn't regulate websites like PornHub or anything on the Internet which is why KP's target was the Sun. All major newspaper publishers are associated with IPSO and it has the power to order front page apologies, which the Sun duly printed.
@Curryong, you are right about the Heads Together. It has had no direction (until possibly recently), so that all the press had to go on was what little info the campaign gave them. In the world of mental health, the whole thing is considered all fluff and no substance. I'm going to end my discussion of it here since I don't want to get off topic in this forum.
As for Meghan, it's the amount of change in the time period that bothers me. Up until she met prince Harry, she gave out a consistent message about who and what she was. She met prince Harry and all of a sudden she is changing/whitewashing her image to be almost a 180 degrees version of herself. And again, in healthy relationships, both partners usually give up something or some parts of themselves to the relationship, but usually not this much.
BTW, I don't think she's making these changes because she's some sort of scheming jade. I do think she's impulsive and reflex-ive (like Harry) and that's what is driving it. I also think they both think they love each other (which is good). Regardless, changing up/giving up *most* (not some but most) of who you are for someone else without some sort of reflection doesn't bode well for the future. Particularly, if she is doing all of the changing.
Kate waited 10 years for the ring and really did not pursue anything other than sporadic part time work with very flexible hours. At least Meghan has a career and did not drop everything to be at someone's beck and call the way Kate did.
What's really going on behind the royals' £20,000 hedge | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4213290/What-s-really-going-royals-20-000-hedge.html)
First, I think that it's great that the Sun issued an apology. That story was hugely inappropriate. However, it is not surprising considering the nature of tabloids in the UK and the fact that Meghan is dating a prince. There was a lot of things that were written about the other girlfriends as well. Meghan is going to have to get used to it when dating a prince. I remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!
Meghan doesn't do much now much like Kate when she started dating William and during their entire courtship. Meghan is just maintaining her blog which isn't exactly high brow stimulating stuff. She is not promoting the new season of her show because she really can't. The media will more than likely ask her about Harry, as they have even asked her castmates. It's a unfortunate but she can't do much. So what is she doing, holing up in London with Harry and going on vacations. Hardly, a basis for a long term relationship in the public. But that is exactly what Kate did and got criticized for. I see no difference between the two. Meghan may have had a career and worked her way up, which really seems like she did. However, now she has limitations and she has to either come to terms or leave. However, she is doing nothing, which makes her utterly boring as Kate. :coy: There is no difference.
Hi Maria,
I see you haven't been exploring the wider Internet, Twitter, Tumblrs, blogs etc. As a longtime Royal watcher, decades really, I can tell you that what Meghan has gone through since Camilla T broke the news last November is worse, much much worse than anything Kate, Chelsy or Cressida Bonas ever suffered. There have been two main Twitter witches who've been spreading stuff from their blogs about Meghan and it is truly vulgar, gross, disgusting stuff that I wouldn't repeat and that would have any journalist in Britain sued for libel if it appeared in a UK newspaper.
Meghan is staying in London with Harry at Nott Cott because her series Suits is on hiatus. She doesn't start filming again until late March or April, I believe. She has no clothing collection to bring out for Reitman's until next year, and while she is staying with Harry Meghan's been holding fire on all her social media, posting very little.
This may or may not mean she and Harry are preparing for the next stage of their relationship, as previously she was very active on The Tig, the blog that is believed to earn her about £100,000 a year in cash and kind. (She's believed to get about $75,000 for every episode of Suits in which she appears so she earns quite a large sum of money each year.)
She therefore is nothing like Kate, who when she was dating William, barely had a job of any kind and just waited for the ring for almost a decade. I think it's Harry who is setting the agenda of the couple barely being seen in public. He is very wary of paps and the media in general.
Meghan has been in India for a short charity visit but her life has scarcely consisted of vacations. I have serious doubts that Meghan was with him in Norway as the press said, and there are rumours of them going to Verbier for skiing around Valentine's Day but that's just tabloid talk. It may not come to pass.
At the moment they are chilling at KP and getting used to living together, which is necessary to sustain any relationship. Harry will unveil her to the public and appear with her at different events when he's good and ready, I am sure.
Quote from: Maria5583 on February 11, 2017, 02:44:28 PM
First, I think that it's great that the Sun issued an apology. That story was hugely inappropriate. However, it is not surprising considering the nature of tabloids in the UK and the fact that Meghan is dating a prince. There was a lot of things that were written about the other girlfriends as well. Meghan is going to have to get used to it when dating a prince. I remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!
Meghan doesn't do much now much like Kate when she started dating William and during their entire courtship. Meghan is just maintaining her blog which isn't exactly high brow stimulating stuff. She is not promoting the new season of her show because she really can't. The media will more than likely ask her about Harry, as they have even asked her castmates. It's a unfortunate but she can't do much. So what is she doing, holing up in London with Harry and going on vacations. Hardly, a basis for a long term relationship in the public. But that is exactly what Kate did and got criticized for. I see no difference between the two. Meghan may have had a career and worked her way up, which really seems like she did. However, now she has limitations and she has to either come to terms or leave. However, she is doing nothing, which makes her utterly boring as Kate. :coy: There is no difference.
Curryong,
I don't see why you would have any reason to doubt they were in vacation in Norway together. We will never get that kind of confirmation besides it's none of our business. Secondly, someone tweeted that they saw Harry on a Nowegian flight and he and Meghan feel off the radar for several days during that period.
But you are however right about Kate and Meghan. Meghan's networth is 7 million estimated and I think it might be more. She earned that on her own. Meghan has a successful career and a successful business woman. Kate has never really had a job or career to speak of. I think that was the major issue the Queen saw. I recall that she referred to the situation as the Kate problem because she had no professional career at all prior to her engagement to William.
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Quick, Harry, read this! It's Meghan's Valentine wish list | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4215680/Quick-Harry-read-s-Meghan-s-Valentine-wish-list.html)
These comments came from her Blog, "The Tig" It cute!! It's about Valentine's Day and an obvious hidden message for Harry, " Don't you forget Valentine's Day" LOL!
Maria, there is a huge difference in how Meghan has been treated. She has been subjected to vile racist hatred! IMO, the way people have chosen to ignore or down play the racist abuse just shows the abundant level of hate and evil in this world. Racial abuse should not have to be tolerated by anyone under any circumstance!
Quote from: Eri on January 11, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
^ Megan came with baggage ... it seems when she hit the big time people who she wasn't nice with on her way up came poring online even her own sister ... that is cause of concern as I have seen the same thing as I said once before happen with Miranda Kerr when she first started dating Orlando and boy were those people right and did that end up in tears ... in this case though I am hopeful as Harry gets bored easily and tends to walk away when things gets serious ... she just hasn't made the mistake of asking things of him ... yet ... she knows she would be history if she did ...
Don't we the human race when in a relationship *all* come into that relationship with some type of baggage? Nobody on this earth is free or innocent of making mistakes in their life, it is how we learn from them and how we handle them in the future. This young lady seems like a hard working intelligent woman with a serious head on her shoulders as she grows and learns her way in this relationship. Being someone who is involved in charities and wanting to help others that are less fortunate as PH is, they might have more in common then we the public know...after all we are not privy to their private life as much as some would like.
Valentine's Day is not celebrated in Britain is it?
I wonder what he got Meghan?
I am also curious about Harry's reaction or what it will be to American holidays like Thanksgiving? We don't eat the healthiest things on that day. But it is so good!! If they marry or get engaged, they'll probably fly to the US for that since it's not celebrated in the UK.
What Meghan should do is take Harry to Georgia and Tennessee where her mother is from and let him experience the south its food, and the accents! HAHAHA!! :nod: It will be major culture shock I'm sure.
I don't know what Harry bought Meghan. Flowers and perfume perhaps.Valentine's Day is celebrated in Britain and the Commonwealth and has been for hundreds of years. I knew someone who collected cards and she had two gorgeous handmade Valentines from the early 19th century. British people and Commonwealth citizens don't celebrate Thankgiving but Christmas in the UK and commonwealth is probably made more of than in the US because we also have Boxing Day as a holiday.
Harry has been to the US several times but I'm not sure whether he's tasted Southern food. Where did Guy and Lizzie Pelly marry? I'm sure it was down South somewhere. Harry and William attended. I'm sure he'd love to sample some southern hospitality and that will come, I'm sure.
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Quote from: Eri on January 11, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
^ Megan came with baggage ... it seems when she hit the big time people who she wasn't nice with on her way up came poring online even her own sister ... that is cause of concern as I have seen the same thing as I said once before happen with Miranda Kerr when she first started dating Orlando and boy were those people right and did that end up in tears ... in this case though I am hopeful as Harry gets bored easily and tends to walk away when things gets serious ... she just hasn't made the mistake of asking things of him ... yet ... she knows she would be history if she did ...
Don't we the human race when in a relationship *all* come into that relationship with some type of baggage? Nobody on this earth is free or innocent of making mistakes in their life, it is how we learn from them and how we handle them in the future. This young lady seems like a hard working intelligent woman with a serious head on her shoulders as she grows and learns her way in this relationship. Being someone who is involved in charities and wanting to help others that are less fortunate as PH is, they might have more in common then we the public know...after all we are not privy to their private life as much as some would like.
Nice to see you posting again
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QuoteI remember that when Kate was still dating William, the tabloids wrote nasty things about her and her family. But the DAY they announced that she had become engaged to William, the tone changed completely!
Like Kate there are remarks about her family, but there is also the shadow of racism that surfaced in those earlier articles which Kate and others have not had to deal with in the past.
Here we go ... everyone from Cressida to Kate even Flee for the very short amount of time she dated Harry got vile and abusive comments online ... welcome to the internet ... and Cressida and Kate got "racist" comments too ... one was too middle class the other too posh and even got name called for how many times her mother had married ...
Race and class are 2 completely different things. Meghan continues to be attacked for not being of the same race and socioeconomic class of Harry and his previous girlfriends.
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 13, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
Race and class are 2 completely different things. Meghan continues to be attacked for not being of the same race and socioeconomic class of Harry and his previous girlfriends.
I agree. However, it's all a waste of time, effort, and energy. Harry will tell everyone of them to gotta hell and he'll still marry her!
Quote from: Eri on February 13, 2017, 12:15:00 PM
Here we go ... everyone from Cressida to Kate even Flee for the very short amount of time she dated Harry got vile and abusive comments online ... welcome to the internet ... and Cressida and Kate got "racist" comments too ... one was too middle class the other too posh and even got name called for how many times her mother had married ...
I don't recall too many comments about Kate's English heritage or her Caucasian race, however there were plenty regarding her middle class upbringing and her mother's working class background.
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
Well, write to Harry and tell him this and see if it matters.
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
For someone so indifferent to Harry you seem to care an awful lot about him. Let them be. He's clearly head over heels and she seems to be too. If she makes him happy she's right to him.
The fact is that she remodeled her face, whitewashed her past and now waits for the ring. She try to steal the attention during Bafta by publishing in ig, no less than her childish shoes...
That gives me impression that if she ever marry Harry, all attention must be on her or she will act as same as during Carebean tour.. ME,, ME, ME...
Quote from: vlaxym on February 14, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
For someone so indifferent to Harry you seem to care an awful lot about him. Let them be. He's clearly head over heels and she seems to be too. If she makes him happy she's right to him.
I care more about the damage she would do to the Monarchy than that she would do to a moronic 32 years old ... he has it coming and frankly I will enjoy every bit of the karma she will bring him as he deserves it for being so dim ... me stating an opinion on this mess doesn't mean I "care" about moronic Harry ... the sex will wear off pretty soon and boredom will ensue then we will see if she makes him happy ... not that is indicative of a lasting relationship ... Sarah made Andrew and the Queen I might add very happy in the beginning ...
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
You and I have different ideas as to what the term "racist" means. IMO a racist remark is one that explicitly includes reference to a person's race and ethnicity. A remark for the reasons that you've stated is merely criticism and not "racist."
@Eri , We get it that you don't like Meghan for whatever reason but we got it! Can you please give it a rest? Can we please move on to another topic about this couple?
Quote from: SueElen on February 14, 2017, 01:50:18 PM
The fact is that she remodeled her face, whitewashed her past and now waits for the ring. She try to steal the attention during Bafta by publishing in ig, no less than her childish shoes...
That gives me impression that if she ever marry Harry, all attention must be on her or she will act as same as during Carebean tour.. ME,, ME, ME...
She is biracial and she has stated as such, no problem with that.
Do you really think, one little woman and her a little IG post takes away attention from the Baftas, lol! The Grammys, Bafta, movies, other TV shows, radio, newspaper, tons of other social media events occurred on Sunday, none of them took attention away, unless that is what one wanted. :teehee:
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: vlaxym on February 14, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
For someone so indifferent to Harry you seem to care an awful lot about him. Let them be. He's clearly head over heels and she seems to be too. If she makes him happy she's right to him.
I care more about the damage she would do to the Monarchy than that she would do to a moronic 32 years old ... he has it coming and frankly I will enjoy every bit of the karma she will bring him as he deserves it for being so dim ... me stating an opinion on this mess doesn't mean I "care" about moronic Harry ... the sex will wear off pretty soon and boredom will ensue then we will see if she makes him happy ... not that is indicative of a lasting relationship ... Sarah made Andrew and the Queen I might add very happy in the beginning ...
Well, if BRF survived Camilla it'll easily survive Meghan.
I've always believed since her death, Diana was murdered. There were several reasons IMV, but one was the possibility of her marrying "a dark skinned person" and the effect this would have, should they have a family. Also the fact, should this happen, that a future king of The UK, would have half brother or sister of another culture and colouring. Sorry if this does not appear being said in a politically correct mode, but back then, this situation was part of her demise (IMO). In the past 20 years since her death, there is much change and more acceptance of couples from different races marrying and having families. I find it sooo odd that the royal to lead the way to this type of change in The Uk Royal family just may be Prince Harry, her son. I think his warm connection to The West Indies and the tours and his work in Africa, he does not see colour.
Respectfully meant.
I just want to say also, that I agree Megan has done something career wise with her life, when comparing her with Kate. She has many more personality dimensions to her then Kate, but I see an actress who soaks up publicity , good or bad, and whatever happens in the future between them, she'll almost measure a situation or issue by the strength of the publicity surrounding same. If they marry but the marriage fails, she'll be known forever..
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Quote from: Eri on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
^ She is just NOT right for Harry or the Royal family and if saying this makes me "racist" so be it :happycry: ... this is ridiculous there is so much wrong with this woman that has NOTHING to do with how she looks ... being someone that is in so many ways wrong for Harry she will get comments like anyone else including poor Pipps who never hustled like this one to enter the Royal family but gets plenty of abusive and horrible comments DAILY ...
You and I have different ideas as to what the term "racist" means. IMO a racist remark is one that explicitly includes reference to a person's race and ethnicity. A remark for the reasons that you've stated is merely criticism and not "racist."
Which is what this attention seeking with a problematic family weird version of Pippa gets ... the very old tired "race card" is used by her two fans to shut down the criticism and it will never work ... as for some over the top people ... well ... poor Cressida had a whole blog (royaltyandmore) dedicated to tearing her down and being vile to her and her whole family and friends ... Megan will get that as well ... she will live just like the others did ...
How was their Valentine's day? curiosity!! It must have been amazing :hug: :hug: :wub: :wub: :consoling1: :consoling1:
^ Great question ... the weirdness of these two never being sighted ANYWHERE in the age of Twitter and Instagram continues ... even though we are tolled she has moved in with him which means given her love of being paped DAILY we would have AT LEAST pictures or sighting of HER around London ... but no such "luck" ... when it comes to seeing or hearing about those two being around each other in the same place anywhere we are suddenly back to 1997 ... the only time we have seen this so called couple together is back in December the other time the pictures looked like they were taken that very same night and that set of pictures got very little coverage ... it's like the press wanted to make it look like they are still together but gave it as little attention as possible to not look bad ...
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 14, 2017, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: SueElen on February 14, 2017, 01:50:18 PM
The fact is that she remodeled her face, whitewashed her past and now waits for the ring. She try to steal the attention during Bafta by publishing in ig, no less than her childish shoes...
That gives me impression that if she ever marry Harry, all attention must be on her or she will act as same as during Carebean tour.. ME,, ME, ME...
She is biracial and she has stated as such, no problem with that.
Do you really think, one little woman and her a little IG post takes away attention from the Baftas, lol! The Grammys, Bafta, movies, other TV shows, radio, newspaper, tons of other social media events occurred on Sunday, none of them took attention away, unless that is what one wanted. :teehee:
Please do not put words in my mouth, I have not mentioned her race aor anything similar, just that she had lot od surgery to looks like this today. Thank you!
I did not mean to put words in your mouth. Other than straightening her hair, I just think MM looks the same, just older. In her prom pictures, as a young teenager, she would look different. Compare PH's teen pictures to what he looks like now, he looks quite different too.
For those who have accused Meghan of using Harry for PR to sell her Fall 2016 clothing line, here's a link to an article about her first line, that was successful before she was linked to Harry. The maxi dress was my favourite, comfortable and easy to wear. Not high end, but cost effective for some of us watching our pennies. :)
Meghan Markle’s Reitmans Collection – Part I – Meghan’s Mirror (http://www.meghansmirror.com/special-feature/meghan-markles-reitmans-collection-part-i/)
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 15, 2017, 11:16:54 PM
I did not mean to put words in your mouth. Other than straightening her hair, I just think MM looks the same, just older. In her prom pictures, as a young teenager, she would look different. Compare PH's teen pictures to what he looks like now, he looks quite different too.
For those who have accused Meghan of using Harry for PR to sell her Fall 2016 clothing line, here's a link to an article about her first line, that was successful before she was linked to Harry. The maxi dress was my favourite, comfortable and easy to wear. Not high end, but cost effective for some of us watching our pennies. :)
Meghan Markle's Reitmans Collection – Part I – Meghan's Mirror (http://www.meghansmirror.com/special-feature/meghan-markles-reitmans-collection-part-i/)
Those that are saying that Meghan is using Harry are saying that because they do like that Harry is with her and they fact that she is half black is the issue whether they choose to admit it or not. That is what it is! They don't know her or Harry to attack her they way that they have. Well, Harry is with Meghan and he vey well may indeed wed her and there is not a thing any of you can do about it.
^ Guess what ... they didn't know Cressida either but boy did she get bashed and abused to no end ... people don't know Pipps either and they are brutal about her ... Megan will get the same and the color of her skin has nothing to do with it ... again ... using the "race card" won't shut the critics up ... I see that is a tactic this woman's two fans use to shut people up whenever they speak their mind about her like they do about anyone else ... too bad it will never work ...
^ That is certainly rich Eri sticking up for Pippa while bashing her in threads like it is your job IMO.
Quote from: Eri on February 16, 2017, 12:50:33 PM
^ Guess what ... they didn't know Cressida either but boy did she get bashed and abused to no end ... people don't know Pipps either and they are brutal about her ... Megan will get the same and the color of her skin has nothing to do with it ... again ... using the "race card" won't shut the critics up ... I see that is a tactic this woman's two fans use to shut people up whenever they speak their mind about her like they do about anyone else ... too bad it will never work ...
Two fans?! Dream on.
Quote from: Trudie on February 16, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
^ That is certainly rich Eri sticking up for Pippa while bashing her in threads like it is your job IMO.
I wasn't ... I just said that Megan is dealing with what every one else dealt with and will deal with forever being a public person ... Megan is so wrong for Harry and the RF her race is the least of my problems as I am sure it's for everyone who thinks the same ...
Meghan has been living in the UK since December 30 and I predict she'll be there til she has return to work.
Do you all think this will be her last season on Suits?
^Hopefully, as some of us believe, things are developing well for PH and MM, and that they are enjoying themselves in private. I'm normally a cautious person, so I wouldn't be giving up my role, unless I was sure of a commitment; ring on finger. On the other side, I don't know much about the entertainment world, but my guess would be that you can be written out at anytime too?
Suits has had a long and successful run, it's great that they will be going into their 7th year, could it be the last for the show? Then it could possibly the last season for everyone.
Quote from: Eri on February 15, 2017, 03:53:39 PM
^ Great question ... the weirdness of these two never being sighted ANYWHERE in the age of Twitter and Instagram continues ... even though we are tolled she has moved in with him which means given her love of being paped DAILY we would have AT LEAST pictures or sighting of HER around London ... but no such "luck" ... when it comes to seeing or hearing about those two being around each other in the same place anywhere we are suddenly back to 1997 ... the only time we have seen this so called couple together is back in December the other time the pictures looked like they were taken that very same night and that set of pictures got very little coverage ... it's like the press wanted to make it look like they are still together but gave it as little attention as possible to not look bad ...
Why do you NEED pictures of them out and about? It is not anybody's business how they live their life but them.......good grief why so much hate to this girl? Do you know her on a personal level that you feel you can do that? To me and IMO she seems very level headed and media wise to know that they are all about. If PH marrys her so what........it is his life and he I think has had more then his fair share of knowing the female population and knows just what he wants and doesn't want. And this being from 2 colors.......whom on this earth of us can decided what color we will be when we are born, if you can then please tell us how to do that. Color means nothing in a person, it is their attitude, their personality, their behavior and how they treat others that says the type of person they are.
So far I like them and if Harry is happy then so be it, let him be happy with her or someone else. After all he has to live with her not me or you...........or even HM which I am sure is very broadmined which some here are not.
^ Exactly ... Harry will have to live with whatever happens next which I predict it will be a train wreck either way ... I am just someone who will be here enjoying the show ... the boy had brought it on himself ...
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Quote from: Trudie on February 16, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
^ That is certainly rich Eri sticking up for Pippa while bashing her in threads like it is your job IMO.
I wasn't ... I just said that Megan is dealing with what every one else dealt with and will deal with forever being a public person ... Megan is so wrong for Harry and the RF her race is the least of my problems as I am sure it's for everyone who thinks the same ...
Well if her race is the least of your problems why is this relationship such a problem for you? How does Harry's life affect you ?
Quote from: Eri on February 17, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
^ Exactly ... Harry will have to live with whatever happens next which I predict it will be a train wreck either way ... I am just someone who will be here enjoying the show ... the boy had brought it on himself ...
What show? If they break up why would it be a show? A marriage would be a "showcase" if they decide to get engaged.
Quote from: Eri on February 17, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
^ Exactly ... Harry will have to live with whatever happens next which I predict it will be a train wreck either way ... I am just someone who will be here enjoying the show ... the boy had brought it on himself ...
And now you can tell what the future holds for Harry and Meghan? And their marriage will be a train wreck......do tell how you came to that? If this bothers you so much why comment on something that is making you unhappy and miserable? After all, he does not know you or anyone here and he just goes on his merry way doing what *he* wants to do without anyone's approval. I wish only the best for them and anyone that gets married these days, no reason on this earth to wish otherwise of anyone even you.
^I totally agree with you. I honestly couldn't imagine going through a day and wishing bad for someone whether I like them or not. IMO, life is too short for such unkind thoughts. I happen to like Meghan and Harry and I wish them well. If things don't work out for them, I still wish them well! And to all of you fellow posters whether we agree or not, have a lovely day! :D
Eri is obsessed with Harry and who he dates. And he doesn't know he or she from Adam's house cat!
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Harry with with Meghan and now they are virtually living together. You don't like it ? So what? What can you do about it?
Harry's photo with Meghan coming out of a restaurant is not from December, it's current, so much so that Harry is thinner. I'm sure they had an amazing Valentines Day! They wanted privacy, after all, this day is to enjoy in private :hug:
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IMO they look gorgeous together. I do question why an accomplished lady would want to be with a professional lazy git? Don't shoot me folks, but he ain't no worker....is he?
^ I think the older members of the Royal Family (the Queen and Prince Philip) have begun the process of handing over some patronages and duties to the three younger senior royals including Harry, in the last few months. It's never going to be enough to make any of them full-time, in the sense that most people know it, 9-5 (or later, earlier) five days a week. However, they are making a start, though God knows it's taken long enough, and are doing more this year than last.
I don't think Harry is work-shy, especially when the work interests him. When he was in the army he did the same amount as his fellow officers. He's always gone the extra mile working behind the scenes at the two charities associated with him, Invictus and Sentebale. I remember years ago he was laying pipes on a Sentebale project in Lesotho when Chelsy got a bit boisterous at the Capetown races! He also volunteered to stay behind after his tour of Nepal to help build a village school.
Again, it's just not what normal people regard as hard yacka. In mitigation Charles forks out for the expenses of the Cambridges and gives Harry an allowance for his public duties, so I'm not sure if Charlie would be extremely happy bankrolling a full time Harry on Royal duties as well as he, Camilla and perhaps the Cambridges. Some of his money will be freed up certainly when William gets hold of the Duchy money, but at the moment that's the way it is. Meghan may be coming on board too and will need some of Charles's cash.
Now I've gone completely off topic, I know! Sorry, sorry!
OH lord is there no end to this Meghan and harry saga. I don't believe he will marry her and I don't think she would realy want to marry him.. so presumably she's just in it for publicity or she just likes him for a light hearted affair.
I have been reading about this "controversial relationship" for sometime. My own amateurish psychoanalysis is that the relationship is a direct consequence of how Diana brought up her children. She taught them to challenge conventions and to embrace people regardless of their personal circumstances. It is therefore not surprising that her eldest son is obsessed with "being normal". Her youngest son has fallen hard for an American, mixed race, politically liberal, opinionated, minor actress. Had he been brought up like other royal children (traditional values); Harry would probably have tried to court a foreign princess (particularly if she had a crown coming her way like Victoria of Sweden). This is all due to the influence of Diana and she may end up destroying the Windsors (albeit in a roundabout way through her sons) like she had wanted to do during her short life. The people do not like "ordinary kings" and history has shown that such kings are soon thrown out pretty quickly. The moment the Windsors become "ordinary" is the day their reign will end.
Charles was brought up in an ultra traditional way by a mother who abided by the conventions of a court which was set up at the beginning of her reign as it had been before the war. Indeed, many practices survived from her grandfather's reign. The Queen spent a lot of hours at her duties and not many with her children. Her children were brought up by a succession of strict nannies. Charles as a young man was a product of this. Yet he never cast his eye over any foreign princesses, and there were several more Protestant princesses about of the right age group in the 1970's than there are now.
Andrew was more indulged, but still led a very restrictive lifestyle. Sarah once said that until she met him he had never visited a department store for example. He didn't and doesn't regard himself as 'normal'. Yet he never sought the hand of any foreign princesses either, nor did Edward. Nor did King George VI, his sister and two of his brothers marry royalty.
In fact this intermarriage of royal families virtually ended after the First World War. Except for Prince Philip, Marina of Greece was the last royal to marry into the BRF, in 1934. Yet George V's children weren't brought up to regard themselves as 'normal'.
How many royals today in European and Scandinavian royalty are married to fellow royals? Juan Carlos and Sophia of Spain, (and what a success their marriage has been!) Constantine and Anne Marie of Denmark are the only others I can think of and they married in the 1960's. All the others are married to commoners. Diana's influence? Don't think so!
Crown Princess Victoria is years older than Harry and is the product of a Royal-commoner marriage. I don't think when King Carl-Gustav married Sylvia he was trying to be 'normal' nor was he under the influence of people like Diana, who wasn't yet on the scene. Victoria married a commoner and remains happily married.
I don't think you realise the paucity of princesses who are Protestant or prepared to convert that would want to marry into the Windsors anyway. I believe on this very forum years ago several posters did some research on how many eligible princesses of the right age and religion were available for Harry. There were very, very few, if I remember correctly.
Yet Harry is to preferably remain in that restricted gene pool, when practically every other Royal in Europe including his own uncles, aunt and great gtandparents married commoners they fell in love with?
Oh he's not going to marry a "Protestant princess". he'll probably end up like WIlliam with an upper class or upper middle English girl.
Nothing to do with Diana, almost All British royals for generations have married into the enlglish upper class - a few minor royals like Peter Philips or Lord N Windsor have married women who are not Englsih but have lived in the UK and settled here, but they are not really royals, as they are so far from the throne.
Charles as you say Curry was brought up the most "traditional" of the queen's children and he is naturally old fashioned.. but he chose boht his wives from the Englsih aristocracy..
I'm sure Harry will do the same, when he does settle down. I don't see him marrying Meg because she's a career girl, she's American and divorced, and all these things would IMO make it hard for her to settle to the restricted life of the wife of a senior royal.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 18, 2017, 09:59:45 AM
I have been reading about this "controversial relationship" for sometime. My own amateurish psychoanalysis is that the relationship is a direct consequence of how Diana brought up her children. She taught them to challenge conventions and to embrace people regardless of their personal circumstances. It is therefore not surprising that her eldest son is obsessed with "being normal". Her youngest son has fallen hard for an American, mixed race, politically liberal, opinionated, minor actress. Had he been brought up like other royal children (traditional values); Harry would probably have tried to court a foreign princess (particularly if she had a crown coming her way like Victoria of Sweden). This is all due to the influence of Diana and she may end up destroying the Windsors (albeit in a roundabout way through her sons) like she had wanted to do during her short life. The people do not like "ordinary kings" and history has shown that such kings are soon thrown out pretty quickly. The moment the Windsors become "ordinary" is the day their reign will end.
IMO, Diana brought a well-rounded and good influence into her children's lives. Personally, I believe it is important to be aware of many things and then choose appropriately. Her Majesty's 4 children were brought up with the traditional values, yet none of them chose to court foreign royalty. Both Charles, heir to the throne, and Anne have been married twice yet neither chose to court or marry foreign royalty. Indeed, I believe there should be a balance as a RF that is out of touch and unable to relate to the people would not be a good thing. Reminds me of just after Princess Diana died, and there was such a stirring among 'the people' as it was thought the RF were out of touch in response to the grief that was felt.
If Harry and Meghan are happy together good for them, 'the people' with overall good values should be quite happy with that. Whether Royal or common everyone deserves happiness.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 18, 2017, 09:59:45 AM
I have been reading about this "controversial relationship" for sometime. My own amateurish psychoanalysis is that the relationship is a direct consequence of how Diana brought up her children. She taught them to challenge conventions and to embrace people regardless of their personal circumstances. It is therefore not surprising that her eldest son is obsessed with "being normal". Her youngest son has fallen hard for an American, mixed race, politically liberal, opinionated, minor actress. Had he been brought up like other royal children (traditional values); Harry would probably have tried to court a foreign princess (particularly if she had a crown coming her way like Victoria of Sweden). This is all due to the influence of Diana and she may end up destroying the Windsors (albeit in a roundabout way through her sons) like she had wanted to do during her short life. The people do not like "ordinary kings" and history has shown that such kings are soon thrown out pretty quickly. The moment the Windsors become "ordinary" is the day their reign will end.
William did not court a foreign princess and he's the one who is going to be King. He courted a woman he met at University, the daughter of someone from the upper middle class. Although she did not have to support herself her parents mostly did. But she was not from the aristocracy or a foreign princess.
Diana in interviews talked about William and Harry's royal heritage and Harry would be a support to WIlliam when he became King. She made them aware of charity work that would have to be done. I think WIlliam at least skewed her message of "normalcy" and avoided full time royal duties for as long as possible going to a job created just for him with very flexible hours.
I see nothing wrong with Meghan marrying Harry. I don't think Harry went around with a checklist for women to date and chose one just to be "ornery.". He just was attracted to her and there apparently is a mutual interest and they are seeing each other.
Have to agree with
@Curryong,
@amabel, and
@sandy regarding Harry and foreign princesses. IMO it had nothing to do with their mother but more that all royals and "commoners" have become a more frequent pairing when it comes to marriage not just those in the UK. The last of the royal = royal marriages in European reigning houses would have taken place in the 1990's with Lichtenstein's Alois and Sophie (non-reigning house). Before that it would have been in the 1960's with Anne Marie/Constantine and Sofia/Juan Carlos.
If his parents' marriage had any influence on him then I believe it would be to do the following:1. Wait until he was older before marrying. 2. Select a partner who had similar values, interests, and energy levels to himself. 3. Choose someone who would be able to adjust to the media attention and royal protocol and lifestyle with some ease.
If Meghan is the one and permission is granted then I see no reason why they wouldn't marry.
Harry is 32. This relationship is serious. Those against it might as well just deal because there is nothing you can do about it, You can say Harry will not marry her to the cows come home but if that is what he wants it will happen.
His KP statement said it all and his relationship put all of against it including those on this forum, in your places!! He doesn't care what you think.
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You have all educated me about the issue. In my defense I did say that it was very amateurish psychoanalysis so obviously it had no basis in scientific fact. Anyway I do not necessarily think that embracing people is a bad thing. It is the "normal bloke" thing that I find troubling. If royals are normal then what is the point of them? Anyway thanks all for the feedback. I particularly liked the post by
@sandy,
@Curryong,
@amabel and
@Lady Deb.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 18, 2017, 09:59:45 AM
I have been reading about this "controversial relationship" for sometime. My own amateurish psychoanalysis is that the relationship is a direct consequence of how Diana brought up her children. She taught them to challenge conventions and to embrace people regardless of their personal circumstances. It is therefore not surprising that her eldest son is obsessed with "being normal". Her youngest son has fallen hard for an American, mixed race, politically liberal, opinionated, minor actress. Had he been brought up like other royal children (traditional values); Harry would probably have tried to court a foreign princess (particularly if she had a crown coming her way like Victoria of Sweden). This is all due to the influence of Diana and she may end up destroying the Windsors (albeit in a roundabout way through her sons) like she had wanted to do during her short life. The people do not like "ordinary kings" and history has shown that such kings are soon thrown out pretty quickly. The moment the Windsors become "ordinary" is the day their reign will end.
I hate to point this out to you but Diana will have been dead 20 years this August and The Windsors are still surviving. In 1969 The royal family made a documentary that followed them for an entire year showing just how ordinary they are from Phillip cooking on a barbecue to the Queen doing the dishes, playing with the kids and that is what led to the media intruding into their lives and they destroyed their own magic on the mystery of monarchy long before Diana entered the family. Charles was brought up in the traditional way and how did that turn out? He allowed his sons to go to ordinary schools outside the palace not Gordonstound where he was educated, he became a single parent to William at 15 and Harry at 12 so largely it has been Charles who has had the influence.
I think it's interesting that Harry and Meghan have been pictured together one time, and yet there is all this interest and speculation.
How many times did we see William and Kate together, though, in the first year of their relationship? As far as I remember there was little about Chelsy Davy and no photos in the media for months and months when she and Harry first dated. In fact I remember people on forums, including this one, being surprised because they didn't know of her existence.
With Cressida B we were in the age of social media and a few photos appeared on Twitter but apart from the Batman premiere at the beginning all the photos in the tabs of the two of them out on dates, one of them a semi-official occasion, came towards the end of their two year romance.
Quote from: Yale on February 18, 2017, 05:09:38 PM
Harry is 32. This relationship is serious. Those against it might as well just deal because there is nothing you can do about it, You can say Harry will not marry her to the cows come home but if that is what he wants it will happen.
His KP statement said it all and his relationship put all of against it including those on this forum, in your places!! He doesn't care what you think.
he will only marry her if he really is in love, she is relaly in love and the RF think that she will be sutiable. I doubt if she's really in love, or him.
Quote from: amabel on February 19, 2017, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: Yale on February 18, 2017, 05:09:38 PM
Harry is 32. This relationship is serious. Those against it might as well just deal because there is nothing you can do about it, You can say Harry will not marry her to the cows come home but if that is what he wants it will happen.
His KP statement said it all and his relationship put all of against it including those on this forum, in your places!! He doesn't care what you think.
he will only marry her if he really is in love, she is relaly in love and the RF think that she will be sutiable. I doubt if she's really in love, or him.
Oh really? When did you meet Meghan? How long have you known her? When did she tell you that?
Quote from: Curryong on February 19, 2017, 03:43:06 AM
How many times did we see William and Kate together, though, in the first year of their relationship? As far as I remember there was little about Chelsy Davy and no photos in the media for months and months when she and Harry first dated. In fact I remember people on forums, including this one, being surprised because they didn't know of her existence.
With Cressida B we were in the age of social media and a few photos appeared on Twitter but apart from the Batman premiere at the beginning all the photos in the tabs of the two of them out on dates, one of them a semiofficial occasion, came towards the end of their two year romance.
Kate had her own house with Paparazzi stationed for the Daily Kate. Allegedly Meghan is ensconced locked up in KP, for my taste way too much time, if she's still there.
I agree with those who have doubts with this relationship, both Harry and Meghan have unstable relationship past.
Some who have "unstable" relationships do settle down. No use condemning them to lifelong misery. It is up to the couple. Kate lived in her parents London house and not for very long. It was not her own house.
It's no point debating this as far as I am concerned. I support the pairing and I hope it ends in marriage. Those that don't like it or Meghan for whatever reason. It's your problem and it will not change a thing and it wouldn't if Harry knew any of you or of this forum.
Harry will do exactly what he wants to do!
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Prince Harry plans diary so he can work in CANADA as he's 'SMITTEN' with Meghan Markle | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/769277/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Toronto-Canada-Invict)
^^^ I wrote in my response about lack of photographic evidence of H and M's dating, 'in the first year of Kate and William's relationship.' Kate was not living in the flat in London then. Both she and William were at St Andrews University. The Press agreement about leaving William alone during his education was in place then and Kate was a housemate with several others in a house at the university.
It was quite a few months before the Press twigged on to what was happening and it wasn't until photos were taken of them holidaying together at a ski resort that there was any real evidence (photographic or otherwise) that they were a couple. That was about eight or nine months after they became housemates.
Everyone who isn't married or in a defacto relationship has an 'unstable' dating history, simply because in the course of dating they break up with other individuals. Chelsy Davy is still single at 31, is she a person with an 'unstable' past, just like Harry? Cressida B isn't married, engaged or living with Harry Wentworth Stanley. Is she 'unstable' at 28 simply because she is single?
Harry was with Chelsy for seven years and Cress for two. They are his longest relationships. At 32 this is hardly Playboy of the Western World territory. We can't all date for nine years before marrying.
Meghan is 35. Like others, including Letizia of Spain, she lived with her ex husband for years and then had a brief marriage. She was with the chef Corey for two years. At 35 that's a pretty mild dating history IMO, especially by show business standards. If she'd had multiple marriages, multiple breakups then there would be something to complain about, IMO.
You can have doubts about the relationship between Meghan and Harry. The two main witches on Twitter blogs have devoted weeks to casting doubt on the relationship after attempting to shred Meghan's reputation. As a result, those on Harry tumblrs and blogs have been in turmoil.
However, you don't know that Meghan and Harry aren't together. Like the rest of us you'll just have to wait and see. Meghan is in hiatus from her TV show in Canada until April, and from designing her collection, and so is spending time with her boyfriend in England. As they have reportedly been dating since May/June last year I'd regard that as a completely natural procedure and nothing to sneer at at all.
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 17, 2017, 04:38:32 PM
^I totally agree with you. I honestly couldn't imagine going through a day and wishing bad for someone whether I like them or not. IMO, life is too short for such unkind thoughts. I happen to like Meghan and Harry and I wish them well. If things don't work out for them, I still wish them well! And to all of you fellow posters whether we agree or not, have a lovely day! :D
I don't "wish" anything let alone for this two strangers ... I can't help predict how it will end based on how it started though ... the only reason he is stuck with Megan is that the younger more attractive model wouldn't give him the time of Day ... I suspect that is why she hasn't been given her marching papers yet ... no one wants him ... not even Flee/Cressida types ... that is why he has to do do with this unsuitable woman and her nightmare family ... again ... this will end the minute someone younger and more attractive will return his calls ... that is a fact that and history will prove me right not me wishing anything ...
^ You have no proof whatsoever that 'no-one wants Harry'. You know nothing whatsoever about his love life, nothing about any girlfriends he may have had in the last couple of years since Cressida B. (There were strong rumours around at the time that it was Harry's decision to end that particular romance.) In fact there were stories last year that he and Lady Natasha Howard who is in her twenties, was going out with Harry.
Harry is a member of the most famous Royal family in the world, he's worth millions and is famous, good-looking, fun and has a title. Yes, all that really puts women off him! :hehe:
You, Eri, have been on this 'Harry is terrible, nobody wants him' kick for a good two years, ever since Cressida Bonas left the scene. I've read your posts and they've been consistent on that point. Absolutely ludicrous, as none of us have any idea of what any of the royal family do during the 99% of their private lives we never see, and that includes you, you have no basis for any of it. He could have had a hundred romances in that time and we'd never know.
Lastly, plenty of famous men fall in love with actresses, plenty of them fall for older women. Stop making out that Meghan Markle, who is attractive, earns her own money, has a career and is only 35, is some kind of ugly, decrepit, worn, lowest of the low type. There have been plenty of glamorous photos of her, she looks about ten years younger than her age and if she marries Harry it will be her choice and his, and not a forced one because he can't attract a 'decent' (according to you) girlfriend. It's absolutely ridiculous that you keep asserting this.
^ Harry isn't rich by any means and he brings nothing but bad press and people bashing you online not to mention he is a jobless do nothing without a job or carer to speak of and would be a no body if it wasn't for who his father is ... that is why there were no lines forming to date him after Chelsy or after Cressida and there are no lines now ... if he could do better than Megan he would ... trust me ...
Harry's worth about £28 million according to Forbes magazine. That's rich by most standards.
Harry is hardly responsible for the hordes of idiots on Twitter who built up this fantasy of a perfect consort for Harry, and then proceed to become enraged when the flesh and blood woman isn't the future Duchess of their dreams. I'd say that shows that a whole lot of people on social media became invested in who Harry was going to marry, a sign of his popularity rather than anything else.
Both Princes are on their way to becoming full time royals as their grandparents become even older. William's giving up his job in the summer as well, so he'll be 'unemployed' also, according to your standards. People cannot be full time royals and also have a full time career. That would be impossible.
As for no lines appearing for Harry, again you are stating something for certain that you have no knowledge of, unless you've been there when Harry has chatted up women and/or taken them out. Again--none of us have any knowledge of what royals get up to in their private lives for 99% of the time.
As for being a nobody if his father wasn't who he is, well, we can say that about all the Crown Princes and Princesses in Europe and their siblings, we can say that about William, and Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward as far as their mother is concerned, can't we? And the Queen and Princess Margaret, children of King George VI . All nobodies if their fathers or mothers hadn't been who they were/are. That's a ridiculous argument .
And none of them except for Charles, started off two charities, one when he was just in his teens, as Harry did.
There would be issues of security if WIll and Harry took on "normal" jobs. William was accompanied by security when he did the copter work.
Quote from: Curryong on February 20, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
Harry's worth about £28 million according to Forbes magazine. That's rich by most standards.
Harry is hardly responsible for the hordes of idiots on Twitter who built up this fantasy of a perfect consort for Harry, and then proceed to become enraged when the flesh and blood woman isn't the future Duchess of their dreams. I'd say that shows that a whole lot of people on social media became invested in who Harry was going to marry, a sign of his popularity rather than anything else.
Both Princes are on their way to becoming full time royals as their grandparents become even older. William's giving up his job in the summer as well, so he'll be 'unemployed' also, according to your standards. People cannot be full time royals and also have a full time career. That would be impossible.
As for no lines appearing for Harry, again you are stating something for certain that you have no knowledge of, unless you've been there when Harry has chatted up women and/or taken them out. Again--none of us have any knowledge of what royals get up to in their private lives for 99% of the time.
As for being a nobody if his father wasn't who he is, well, we can say that about all the Crown Princes and Princesses in Europe and their siblings, we can say that about William, and Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward as far as their mother is concerned, can't we? And the Queen and Princess Margaret, children of King George VI . All nobodies if their fathers or mothers hadn't been who they were/are. That's a ridiculous argument .
And none of them except for Charles, started off two charities, one when he was just in his teens, as Harry did.
I was gonna say....hell, give me 1% of what he's worth, and I can give my family a very comfortable lifestyle for at least 5 years. More if I invest properly.
Quote from: Yale on February 19, 2017, 06:13:06 PM
It's no point debating this as far as I am concerned. I support the pairing and I hope it ends in marriage. Those that don't like it or Meghan for whatever reason. It's your problem and it will not change a thing and it wouldn't if Harry knew any of you or of this forum.
Harry will do exactly what he wants to do!
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I couldn't give a toss if he marries her or not, and while I don't dislike Harry, I am not too fond of him either. As for Megan I know litle about her, so I cna't say if I like or dislike her.
YOu may "support the pairing" but that does not mean it is going to happen. I would say the queen and Chares would be very dubious about Harry marrying an American who is a career girl and would problaby have difficulty settling down to royal life. Kate is outside the usual circle of Royal brides, but seh's English and she' certainly has no ambitions, so she's able to settle intot the RF's lifestyle because she clearly has wanted to be married to Will for many years... and has no desire for a career of her own. Megan isn't like that and is from a completely differnet culture, plus she's divorced.
^ I feel like Megan is treating Harry as her last train ... she is 35 years old if she didn't make it until now she is not going to make it ... she is no carer girl ... she is just a z list with an unknown TV Show ... I used to think she was too much of a "free spirit" for the RF as well but at this point she doesn't have many options and it's not like she is a beauty that will capture a man with REAL money who is looking for an arm candy ...
^
Cressida looks older than Meghan, she is "old face", I saw her current photos in the Daily mail :lol: :lol:, not to mention that she is dull, untalented, futile ...
Harry is now with a real woman: attractive, mature, intelligent and independent :)
Meghan has been on a successful television show from when it started 6 years ago. Just because some people were not aware of the show, means it was unknown to them, not to the rest of us. Suits is on cable and on Netflix so clearly some people did know of it before Harry met Meghan. Her blog and clothing line may not be everyone's cup of tea, but some of us to like it and I wish her continued success with what she and Harry chooses. IMO, so far she's done quite well for herself.
@amabel, Meghan may be from a different country and culture, not so different from many of us who have travelled and lived in different countries and have had to adapt to different customs etc. BRF should be well aware of different cultures, the Commonwealth and world in which they have travelled should give them plenty of experience.
And so what if she's divorced? She'll have something in common to chat with Harry's father about then. And as a child of divorced parents, is something she has in common with Harry. The Queen and Prince Charles are looking for someone interested in working, if it's true that Charles wants to pare down the Royal list then potentially Meghan should be helpful to them as she has clearly shown that she is quite interested in making a living for herself and not afraid of working.
Quote from: Eri on February 20, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
^ I feel like Megan is treating Harry as her last train ... she is 35 years old if she didn't make it until now she is not going to make it ... she is no carer girl ... she is just a z list with an unknown TV Show ... I used to think she was too much of a "free spirit" for the RF as well but at this point she doesn't have many options and it's not like she is a beauty that will capture a man with REAL money who is looking for an arm candy ...
Quote from: amabel on February 20, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: Yale on February 19, 2017, 06:13:06 PM
It's no point debating this as far as I am concerned. I support the pairing and I hope it ends in marriage. Those that don't like it or Meghan for whatever reason. It's your problem and it will not change a thing and it wouldn't if Harry knew any of you or of this forum.
Harry will do exactly what he wants to do!
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I couldn't give a toss if he marries her or not, and while I don't dislike Harry, I am not too fond of him either. As for Megan I know litle about her, so I cna't say if I like or dislike her.
YOu may "support the pairing" but that does not mean it is going to happen. I would say the queen and Chares would be very dubious about Harry marrying an American who is a career girl and would problaby have difficulty settling down to royal life. Kate is outside the usual circle of Royal brides, but seh's English and she' certainly has no ambitions, so she's able to settle intot the RF's lifestyle because she clearly has wanted to be married to Will for many years... and has no desire for a career of her own. Megan isn't like that and is from a completely differnet culture, plus she's divorced.
I doubt Meghan would keep her "career" if she marries Harry. The Queen let in Camilla a divorced woman, the other woman in Charles first marriage and she married Charles, a divorced man. So it would be unlikely that the Queen would refuse Meghan, a divorcee (no children) if Harry (not married, no children) decides to marry her. Charles could hardly be "dubious" as a divorced man who married a divorced woman.
Quote from: Eri on February 20, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
^ I feel like Megan is treating Harry as her last train ... she is 35 years old if she didn't make it until now she is not going to make it ... she is no carer girl ... she is just a z list with an unknown TV Show ... I used to think she was too much of a "free spirit" for the RF as well but at this point she doesn't have many options and it's not like she is a beauty that will capture a man with REAL money who is looking for an arm candy ...
You know, it IS possible that a man with money is looking for more than just arm candy.
Charles is divorced and married to a woman who is divorced and to a woman who is older than he is and looks it.
Charles is heir to the throne. Why is it okay for him to be divorced and married to a divorcee and remain the heir but some jump on Meghan because she is divorced?
It's okay for Charles because he is British, not American and not Biracial like Meghan is that it?
Didn?t offer a ride blind riddle (http://www.laineygossip.com/Didnt-offer-a-ride-blind-riddle/46293)
Well, for me this confirms the source of almost all the leaks. I suspect PW and KM are not happy with this relationship with a celebrity who is leaking like a sieve, them being private to the point of paranoia.
A few weeks ago there were reports about how PH was critical of Trump. It was on PH, not both princes. I suspect the source was the same, MM being very political talked about his private opinion which then leaked to the tabloids. Very appropriate!
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 20, 2017, 08:49:37 PM
Meghan has been on a successful television show from when it started 6 years ago. Just because some people were not aware of the show, means it was unknown to them, not to the rest of us. Suits is on cable and on Netflix so clearly some people did know of it before Harry met Meghan. Her blog and clothing line may not be everyone's cup of tea, but some of us to like it and I wish her continued success with what she and Harry chooses. IMO, so far she's done quite well for herself.
@amabel, Meghan may be from a different country and culture, not so different from many of us who have travelled and lived in different countries and have had to adapt to different customs etc. BRF should be well aware of different cultures, the Commonwealth and world in which they have travelled should give them plenty of experience.
And so what if she's divorced? She'll have something in common to chat with Harry's father about then. And as a child of divorced parents, is something she has in common with Harry. The Queen and Prince Charles are looking for someone interested in working, if it's true that Charles wants to pare down the Royal list then potentially Meghan should be helpful to them as she has clearly shown that she is quite interested in making a living for herself and not afraid of working.
Quote from: Eri on February 20, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
^ I feel like Megan is treating Harry as her last train ... she is 35 years old if she didn't make it until now she is not going to make it ... she is no carer girl ... she is just a z list with an unknown TV Show ... I used to think she was too much of a "free spirit" for the RF as well but at this point she doesn't have many options and it's not like she is a beauty that will capture a man with REAL money who is looking for an arm candy ...
You are not making any sense ... when you point out only two people knew of her Show pre Harry it was not Dawson's Creek by any means ... let's face it Megan was a famous as Cressida was before she started dating Prince Dim ...
^ The cable network show Suits average audience over the years has been around the 1.80 million mark, considerably more than two people and way more than anything Cressida has appeared in. Cressida has mainly acted in theatrical productions anyway.
QuoteComing To America! Prince William Moves For Meghan Markle
RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned that Meghan Markle has no intention of putting the brakes on her acting career once she and Prince Harry are engaged — and that suits him just fine!
"Harry loves America and is totally open to dividing his time between Canada, L.A. and London once he and Meghan are officially man and wife," an insider told Radar of the prince, 32, and his Suits actress girlfriend.
"It's a logical step for the Royals, too, because he'll be able to up their reputation abroad while still fulfilling duties back at home and overseas, of course," added the source.
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QuotePrince Harry to decamp to Meghan Markle's home-city of Toronto for Invictus Games
Things continue to heat up between Prince Harry and his Toronto-based girlfriend Meghan Markle, so much so that the royal is planning to spend more time working in Canada.
The 32-year-old prince is jetting across the pond later this year to plan his Invictus Games, which are set to take place in September. Created by the royal, the Paralympic-style multi-sport event featured wounded, injured or sick armed services personnel and their associated veterans participate in competitive sports including wheelchair basketball and indoor rowing.
But Harry's visit to Canada isn't all for a charitable cause, as it will bring him closer to his long-distance love, 35-year-old Markle. Despite being fully hands-on with the preparation for the Invictus Games, hosted in Toronto, Harry plans to spend an increasing amount of time in his girlfriend's home-city this summer as he attends meetings about the games.
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Prince Harry to decamp to Meghan Markle's home-city of Toronto for Invictus Games (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/prince-harry-decamp-meghan-markles-home-city-toronto-invictus-games-1607556)
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QuoteThe bonkers reason Prince Harry won't be proposing to Meghan Markle any time soon
One of the hottest celebrity couples right now is Prince Harry and Meghan Markle .
The royal prince officially confirmed his relationship to the American actress last November. There had been a lot of speculation, and in an unconventional move the love-struck prince released a long statement about his relationship from Kensington Palace.
The couple appear to be going steady. They've passed some sizeable milestones, in fact. Prince Harry met Markle's parents over in the US (before their relationship went public, it transpires), while she in turn has since met his family, too, including brother Prince William.
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The bonkers reason Prince Harry won't be proposing to Meghan Markle any time soon - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bonkers-reason-prince-harry-wont-9843046)
Quote from: Curryong on February 21, 2017, 02:07:30 PM
^ The cable network show Suits average audience over the years has been around the 1.80 million mark, considerably more than two people and way more than anything Cressida has appeared in. Cressida has mainly acted in theatrical productions anyway.
Well ... it better continue the way you are claiming it does ... Prince Dim gets bored very fast ... she needs the gig ...
In addition to what
@Curryong wrote about US viewership, IMDB says Suits is available on television in Canada, UK, Australia, Sweden, South Africa, Japan, Germany, France, Ireland, Netherlands, Finland etc. And with access via Netflix, iTunes, Amazon Prime etc, Suits is available in additional countries via the internet. So definitely more than 2 people watch the show. Suits started in 2011, so for tv shows it has had an excellent run, I suspect that the end of the will soon be coming either this season or next.
According to the media, there were lots of people out to see Harry (Prince Charming) today and support the charity engagements he attended. As usual, Harry was extra sweet with the children.
Watch as Prince Harry greets his young fans in adorable scenes on the Gateshead Quayside - Chronicle Live (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/watch-prince-harry-greets-young-12636985)
^ Are we really going to act as anyone here knew of Suits before she started dating Harry? Are we really going that far now? What we should really be discussing is Harry being seen with her only once for sure ... he sure is no proud boyfriend ... but I don't expect her two fans to be willing to discuss that ...
Quote from: psm on February 20, 2017, 10:36:47 PM
Didn?t offer a ride blind riddle (http://www.laineygossip.com/Didnt-offer-a-ride-blind-riddle/46293)
Well, for me this confirms the source of almost all the leaks. I suspect PW and KM are not happy with this relationship with a celebrity who is leaking like a sieve, them being private to the point of paranoia.
A few weeks ago there were reports about how PH was critical of Trump. It was on PH, not both princes. I suspect the source was the same, MM being very political talked about his private opinion which then leaked to the tabloids. Very appropriate!
I have to wonder , if Prince Harry and Megan do not marry, would she then leak whatever she knows about the F. Their opinions; Who gets on with who; General gossip.; Should she be asked to do a talk show, would it be because of the publicity she got from being an ex-girlfriend of PH, or her "talent" as an actress. Again, IMO, which ever way the relationship goes, she will definitely be known to most of the western world. Good publicity, bad publicity ..... is all good. IMO.. of course
^ Well, Meghan will certainly be seen when she and he become engaged. According to Richard Palmer the romance is serious and intense and he wouldn't be surprised if there is an engagement soon. She'll be extremely well known all over the world then, won't she? .
You've been given the figures for Suits in the last few posts. Not going over old ground again.
As for being photographed together, no-one even knew about Chelsy for almost a year and they were very serious about each other. As for Cressida there was hardly anything in the way of photos until they had reached the stage just before they broke up.
Quote from: Eri on February 22, 2017, 12:44:13 PM
^ Are we really going to act as anyone here knew of Suits before she started dating Harry? Are we really going that far now? What we should really be discussing is Harry being seen with her only once for sure ... he sure is no proud boyfriend ... but I don't expect her two fans to be willing to discuss that ...
No proud boyfriend? What? He issued an unprecedented statement because of her. He couldn't be prouder boyfriend, that's sure.
Personally, I feel that about 99% of the people who approve Meghan are ladies in the 50s and 69s who dreamed to marry the prince...
He can marry who he's in love but she is a major player and social climber and plays him well. She does it very well, strategically... she moved into his place and sits there all day... seriously, Does she have a life, visiting father or a mother? Not even a rumor of any sighting ...
^ He is a player too ... honestly is not him I feel worried about as he has is it coming and it couldn't happen to a better idiot it's the Monarchy and Liz that have dark Days head between Bill Middelton and the current mess Harry is in ... as for the lack of pictures and sightings ... I don't engage in conspiracy theories as I don't like to talk without having any proof but having no pictures or any sightings in the age of Twitter is weird to say the least and it's really making me wonder if the second set of pictures we have of this "couple" is indeed of the date they had back in December ...
'Ladies in their 50's and 60's who wanted to marry him, are the only ones who approve of Meghan'. Are you joking? That's a huge generalisation you are making there! Have you been conducting a survey of all that have ever favourably commented at all on Meghan. For myself I am not in that age group, I am happily married, and have never had the slightest thought of wanting to marry Harry.
I like him. A niece began to follow him and collect clippings and articles and I joined her. I think Harry is a fine young man who really connects with the public and is enthusiastic about his engagements. You never see him bored or going through the motions.
As for Meghan I believe in giving people chances. She has said nothing, written nothing about her romance with Harry. He knows her. We don't, and that includes you, and I don't know her either. However I don't wish her ill. I also don't believe in believing stuff from Twitter Queens who are God knows Who and are responsible to no-one in deciding they hate someone and who have been getting others to spread their poison around the Internet for them.
About 95% of what has been spread about Meghan over social media in Tumblrs, Twitter etc has been spread by these witches and their minions, and all I can say is thank heavens one of them has gone quiet and the other has retired from the scene, after trying to shred the reputation of someone they do not know.
We don't know what Meghan does all day. She is a private citizen, unlike Kate, and therefore what she does and doesn't do is her own business. I doubt very much that either of them are bolted in at Nott Cott 24/7. Harry could have taken her to one of the houses at Sandringham, could have taken her to Birkhall in Scotland. He has friends he sails with in Cornwall. They could have been there. He has friends in Norfolk and in and around London. Photographers don't hang around those houses.
I don't know whether this will end in marriage. If Harry and Meghan are in love and get engaged in the future then I wish them well. However, please do not characterise me, and those that are happy for them, as being of a certain age or fancying Harry. It just makes you look ridiculous, IMO.
Quote from: Eri on February 22, 2017, 01:54:46 PM
^ He is a player too ... honestly is not him I feel worried about as he has is it coming and it couldn't happen to a better idiot it's the Monarchy and Liz that have dark Days head between Bill Middelton and the current mess Harry is in ... as for the lack of pictures and sightings ... I don't engage in conspiracy theories as I don't like to talk without having any proof but having no pictures or any sightings in the age of Twitter is weird to say the least and it's really making me wonder if the second set of pictures we have of this "couple" is indeed of the date they had back in December ...
Or she not in love with DM as two times before, when they had only her photos while she was shopping first somw groceries and later the flowers...
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Quote from: Curryong on February 22, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
'Ladies in their 50's and 60's who wanted to marry him, are the only ones who approve of Meghan'. Are you joking? That's a huge generalisation you are making there! Have you been conducting a survey of all that have ever favourably commented at all on Meghan. For myself I am not in that age group, I am happily married, and have never had the slightest thought of wanting to marry Harry.
I like him. A niece began to follow him and collect clippings and articles and I joined her. I think Harry is a fine young man who really connects with the public and is enthusiastic about his engagements. You never see him bored or going through the motions.
As for Meghan I believe in giving people chances. She has said nothing, written nothing about her romance with Harry. He knows her. We don't, and that includes you, and I don't know her either. However I don't wish her ill. I also don't believe in believing stuff from Twitter Queens who are God knows Who and are responsible to no-one in deciding they hate someone and who have been getting others to spread their poison around the Internet for them.
About 95% of what has been spread about Meghan over social media in Tumblrs, Twitter etc has been spread by these witches and their minions, and all I can say is thank heavens one of them has gone quiet and the other has retired from the scene, after trying to shred the reputation of someone they do not know.
We don't know what Meghan does all day. She is a private citizen, unlike Kate, and therefore what she does and doesn't do is her own business. I doubt very much that either of them are bolted in at Nott Cott 24/7. Harry could have taken her to one of the houses at Sandringham, could have taken her to Birkhall in Scotland. He has friends he sails with in Cornwall. They could have been there. He has friends in Norfolk and in and around London. Photographers don't hang around those houses.
I don't know whether this will end in marriage. If Harry and Meghan are in love and get engaged in the future then I wish them well. However, please do not characterise me, and those that are happy for them, as being of a certain age or fancying Harry. It just makes you look ridiculous, IMO.
I never read Tumblr or Twitter about her and I hate nasty comments, I am just saying she is serious player and gamer... she really never said direcrly anything- she is not stupid becaue she expects that ring- but for leaking I am quite sure it is not Harry either.
Simply, she is to mature for him and she is not the type I would like my son, brother or a friend to end up...
She will never fit into that family, because she is self centered, my opinion based on her instagram, and after some initial phase, she will be in the background and Meghan does not like it...
If he marries her, good luck, more fun for us.
^ Exactly ... Megan's two fans think some of us are mad about this ... in reality we will be here laughing at Prince Dim who is proving to us he hasn't changed from the Days he though it was a good idea to get naked in a room full of strangers ...
Two fans?! I don't think they are limited to two to say the least.
^ You are right ... I was being generous ... she has no one but some who think she would make a "cool" Princess ...
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"I feel that about 99% of the people who approve Meghan are ladies in the 50s and 69s who dreamed to marry the prince... " :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I am very far from this age group and I never dreamed of marrying a prince, because I think it must be very boring the life of a royal one, being observed and judged all the time.
I like Meghan because I find her an interesting woman. She is intelligent, speak and express herself well, works with charity, seems to be nice, funny, responsible ... everything Harry needs. I did not like his ex girlfriends, for me they were rich, silly, stupid girls with no goals in life.
I think the relationship is serious and soon they will be engaged :hug:
Quote from: SueElen on February 22, 2017, 01:29:19 PM
Personally, I feel that about 99% of the people who approve Meghan are ladies in the 50s and 69s who dreamed to marry the prince...
He can marry who he's in love but she is a major player and social climber and plays him well. She does it very well, strategically... she moved into his place and sits there all day... seriously, Does she have a life, visiting father or a mother? Not even a rumor of any sighting ...
LOL! I already have my Prince, so no dreams for me about marrying Harry. :lol:
Why would you think that Meghan is sitting all day? Yesterday, Harry attended 3 engagements. In the video and news articles that I read none of them showed him leaving from home, driving, taking a train etc., I wouldn't assume that he just teleported to the engagements, just because I didn't see him get there.
Every time Meghan gets photographed when she steps out, she gets accused of pap strolling. And when she isn't photographed it's questioned whether she has a life. If she updates her Twitter or IG she gets accused of being fame hungry and using Harry for publicity. IMO, I think she is doing enough for now. I hope that Meghan and Harry will be able to continue their relationship on their terms.
^ Her current absence from "the scene" is fascinating to say the least ... if she was in London she would be paped ... if she was in Toronto she would be paped ... it's interesting ... we know Harry is at home ... we also know there is no way she wouldn't let us know she is with him ... she is known to leak and show off ...
Quote from: Eri on February 22, 2017, 04:38:37 PM
^ You are right ... I was being generous ... she has no one but some who think she would make a "cool" Princess ...
No she has a lot more than 2. Obviously
^
The fact that Meghan is not exposing herself, is just another clue that she and Harry are together and firm :consoling1:
Quote from: Eri on February 23, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
^ Her current absence from "the scene" is fascinating to say the least ... if she was in London she would be paped ... if she was in Toronto she would be paped ... it's interesting ... we know Harry is at home ... we also know there is no way she wouldn't let us know she is with him ... she is known to leak and show off ...
Meghan Markle ''Glowing'' in Toronto After Her Long, Romantic Visit With Prince Harry: See the Pics! | E! News (http://m.eonline.com/news/831680/meghan-markle-glowing-in-toronto-after-her-long-romantic-visit-with-prince-harry-see-the-pics)
There she is... back in Toronto... please, can anyone explain how her hair grown for 10 cm in less of one month when she was papped with him?
Obviously Meghan has more than two fans but she doesn't have more than the other two girlfriends did. In the past the conversation on here was way more with people defending them more. I think people have stopped caring about who Harry marries and Meghan is so boring.
I think her hair appears longer because she straightened it. She seems really consumed with looking good to the gym. Silly girl.
Quote from: Maria5583 on February 25, 2017, 01:45:48 PM
Obviously Meghan has more than two fans but she doesn't have more than the other two girlfriends did. In the past the conversation on here was way more with people defending them more. I think people have stopped caring about who Harry marries and Meghan is so boring.
I think her hair appears longer because she straightened it. She seems really consumed with looking good to the gym. Silly girl.
Well, whomever might as well stop caring because any objections won't change anything and it won't stop him. And Meghan is boring perhaps because you don't like her?
She is a serious player... she can do yoga at home because it ia obvious that she never lifts- see her no muscle calves... just wants another opportunity... after the gym, nobody looks nice...
Even waived , her hair appears quite longer...but she looks different when photos are not photoshopped...
Some of you are acting like jealous women scorned. It's totally ridiculous. You don't know a thing about Meghan whatsoever to say many of the things you all do. Get a life and allow Harry to live his in peace!!
Ha ha. Now you have done it
@Yale. There's gonna be fire here :lol: :happy17:
Quote from: Yale on February 25, 2017, 09:52:51 PM
Some of you are acting like jealous women scorned. It's totally ridiculous. You don't know a thing about Meghan whatsoever to say many of the things you all do. Get a life and allow Harry to live his in peace!!
:nod: It's like here we go again. Before this sighting, some were saying that she's hiding out, sitting around and waiting, doing nothing. When she appears in public, going to the gym, hanging out with her friend and looking darn good, someone says she should stay home and look bad. Personally, I try to look good pre and post work out for myself and there is no one interested in taking my picture.
Recreational athletic apparel is big business, companies want people to look good wearing their brand. I don't see what the big deal is if a person chooses to look awesome before or after working out.
Quote from: Yale on February 25, 2017, 09:52:51 PM
Some of you are acting like jealous women scorned. It's totally ridiculous. You don't know a thing about Meghan whatsoever to say many of the things you all do. Get a life and allow Harry to live his in peace!!
Reductio ad absurdum and argumentum ad hominem attacks, interesting...leads to an invalid argument though.
Harry and Meghan: The Love Story: Emily Herbert: 9781786064226: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Meghan-Story-Emily-Herbert/dp/1786064227/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488104000&sr=8-1&keywords=Harry+meghan+a+love+story)
Available on Amazon :D
Quote from: TLLK on February 26, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
Harry and Meghan: The Love Story: Emily Herbert: 9781786064226: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Meghan-Story-Emily-Herbert/dp/1786064227/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488104000&sr=8-1&keywords=Harry+meghan+a+love+story)
Available on Amazon :D
Harry and Meghan are not talking from what I see so this was done without their permission. But it also validates their relationship even more. I wonder if they know about this book?
^ I don't know whether Harry and Meghan have knowledge of this book. Probably not. However, trust Amazon to get in early! :wink: They are obviously hoping for an early engagement announcement! :D The tea towels with the couple's face on them are now on order, I guess.
Will Harry and Meghan: The Love Story make the best seller's list?
:wub: :cloud9: :wub: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :wub: :cloud9: :wub:
I just realized that I worked across the street from the gym she was going into for 3 years and I did not see paps out there once. And today there is another series of pictures of her at the same gym. Amazing how that happens Meghan. It's also one of the most expensive areas and gyms in the city. Meghan, one for the people. :ugh: :teehee:
Harry wasn't dating Meghan 3 years ago so it makes sense that paps were not taking pictures of her from that time. I'd guess the paps weren't there either when Meg was out of town. The Daily Fail and other tabloids weren't writing foolish 'Meghan missing Harry' articles until recently either.
Last week, there were all the complaints that Meg was hiding away, not living life. And now that she is back to her normal routine and the paps know where to wait and to get the picture somehow it's her fault.
None of these tabloids and magazines are forced to print the pictures, they're doing it to make money and write foolish articles. Click bait! And no one is forced to read the articles either. I also go to one of the most expensive gyms in my city, fortunately for me, my employer gives a nice discount to attend it.
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on February 26, 2017, 09:30:29 PM
Will Harry and Meghan: The Love Story make the best seller's list?
:wub: :cloud9: :wub: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :wub: :cloud9: :wub:
Not likely IMO.
Quote from: Curryong on February 26, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
^ I don't know whether Harry and Meghan have knowledge of this book. Probably not. However, trust Amazon to get in early! :wink: They are obviously hoping for an early engagement announcement! :D The tea towels with the couple's face on them are now on order, I guess.
There was a book called "William's Princess" that came out in 2007 right before the breakup. Then things changed again...
Her main problem, which can cost her a title and husband is insecurity... she is restless and insecure and that is why she looks so awful.
I dislike strongly girls who behave differently when they are not with theirs boyfriends, like she does... when she is with him, no gyms, no paps walks daily-florist trip only- , silence... can do without gym perfectly...when she is back, paps walk organized by her pr and marketing consultant
...anyway, wedding of the Harry's friend is in March so hope to see if she goes or not...
Interesting that when she finally appears she is in a different Continent than him ... still to see any proof those two are anything more than a casual fling gone wrong for Prince Dim ... her PR is hustling very hard to keep her in the news ... too bad they still can't get Harry to be photographed with her and act like an actual boyfriend ...
Quote from: SueElen on February 27, 2017, 10:41:50 AM
Her main problem, which can cost her a title and husband is insecurity... she is restless and insecure and that is why she looks so awful.
I dislike strongly girls who behave differently when they are not with theirs boyfriends, like she does... when she is with him, no gyms, no paps walks daily-florist trip only- , silence... can do without gym perfectly...when she is back, paps walk organized by her pr and marketing consultant
...anyway, wedding of the Harry's friend is in March so hope to see if she goes or not...
Just because we didn't see Meghan and Harry attending a gym in London doesn't mean that they didn't go. She could have attended the gym there everyday for all we know. Just because there wasn't pictures of Harry yesterday, doesn't mean that he was locked up in KP feeling glum either. British tabloids pay for pictures, all Meghan is doing is her normal routine and others are capitalizing from it.
Unfortunately for her, paps strolls to and from gym are her only opportunities, eve her friend Pryanka attended the Oscar's last night but she was absent from all Bafta, Cezar, grammy, Oscars... she is nobody at that world...
Even Kardashian who have better gym equipment at home than the actual gym
Uses opprurtunity for the papa stroll...
Even mama June dresses better than her and they are similar age hahaha and she is definitely more poular and known than Meghan
It's hilarious to read some make it seem like the lack of pictures or the fact they have NEVER been sighted ANYWHERE together by Twitter or Instagram in the era of Insta stories and such is normal in a City like London of all places :ugh: ... saying that is possible especially since we now have pictures of her in Toronto is like trying to sell me a Bridge ... I have a feeling he has gotten rid of her a looooong time ago and the bomb will drop pretty soon ... all his mayor break ups are given by his team to the press between April and May ...
Quote from: Lady Deb on February 26, 2017, 10:39:40 PM
Harry wasn't dating Meghan 3 years ago so it makes sense that paps were not taking pictures of her from that time. I'd guess the paps weren't there either when Meg was out of town. The Daily Fail and other tabloids weren't writing foolish 'Meghan missing Harry' articles until recently either.
Last week, there were all the complaints that Meg was hiding away, not living life. And now that she is back to her normal routine and the paps know where to wait and to get the picture somehow it's her fault.
None of these tabloids and magazines are forced to print the pictures, they're doing it to make money and write foolish articles. Click bait! And no one is forced to read the articles either. I also go to one of the most expensive gyms in my city, fortunately for me, my employer gives a nice discount to attend it.
I meant that Toronto is not known for paps but she seems to find them. I would not spot her now on the streets. She is so plain compared to his previous girlfriends. The gym is also a distance from where she lives but the paps always seem to know where she will be. :teehee:
^ But they couldn't find her in London ... let's get real here ... no way this will last if they are still together especially since she refuses to move to London because she knows her so called relationship with Prince Dim has no future ...
^ Other than his official engagements, Harry has not seen in London either. Anyway, since you and other posters think she is 'so plain', maybe no one noticed her when she was out and about.
^ Harry was not seen in London other than his official engagements? What are you saying there? He was in LONDON ... I am confused ... anyways ... if it continues like this they will break up very soon a transatlantic relationship didn't work with Chelsy and it won't work with this one either ... the main reason it didn't work was because Harry was used to being a "free agent" most of the time and when Chelsy was in Town she was seen as the "nagging girlfriend" in the way of his Friday nights and that is why they broke up every time she stayed in London for more than two weeks ... it will happen with Megan too ... other than that ... given that her PR is on overdrive keeping her linked to Harry because he won't show up ANYWHERE with her I say someone who is desperate enough to wear rings, necklaces dropping hints she is still sleeping with Prince Dim she would be pictured in London if she was ... like it happened when she was ACTUALLY there ...
@Eri now Chelsy was the nagging girlfriend. Chelsy and Harry dated in their twenties and it lasted years. During that time Harry was in the military and Chelsy had her goal of becoming a Lawyer. As Chelsy matured and achieved her goals she saw how her life would be stifled if she and Harry married especially as she was just starting her career and now she is designing Jewelry. Meghan has established her career and is mature as is Harry both are in their thirties and know what they want.
Meghan doesn't live in London she is based in Toronto. Autumn Phillips was in the same situation she wasn't papped in England during her courtship with Peter she was papped in Canada once she became known as his girlfriend. The media knows a good headline and the headline is better when they are apart then when they are together.
Quote from: Eri on February 28, 2017, 01:12:49 PM
^ Harry was not seen in London other than his official engagements? What are you saying there? He was in LONDON ... I am confused ... anyways ... if it continues like this they will break up very soon a transatlantic relationship didn't work with Chelsy and it won't work with this one either ... the main reason it didn't work was because Harry was used to being a "free agent" most of the time and when Chelsy was in Town she was seen as the "nagging girlfriend" in the way of his Friday nights and that is why they broke up every time she stayed in London for more than two weeks ... it will happen with Megan too ... other than that ... given that her PR is on overdrive keeping her linked to Harry because he won't show up ANYWHERE with her I say someone who is desperate enough to wear rings, necklaces dropping hints she is still sleeping with Prince Dim she would be pictured in London if she was ... like it happened when she was ACTUALLY there ...
How did she "drop" hints she was sleeping with him?
Quote from: Trudie on February 28, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
@Eri now Chelsy was the nagging girlfriend. Chelsy and Harry dated in their twenties and it lasted years. During that time Harry was in the military and Chelsy had her goal of becoming a Lawyer. As Chelsy matured and achieved her goals she saw how her life would be stifled if she and Harry married especially as she was just starting her career and now she is designing Jewelry. Meghan has established her career and is mature as is Harry both are in their thirties and know what they want.
Meghan doesn't live in London she is based in Toronto. Autumn Phillips was in the same situation she wasn't papped in England during her courtship with Peter she was papped in Canada once she became known as his girlfriend. The media knows a good headline and the headline is better when they are apart then when they are together.
I didn't say she was nagging what I DID say is that she might have looked like it to Harry given that it seems she was pretty assertive the few times they were actually together for more that two weeks and that was a change of passe for Harry who was alone most of the time ... as for the current one ... as I once said she is in a no win situation if she stays in Toronto he will forget about her pretty soon and if she moves to the other side of the World without any solid ground she risks because the man child gets bored easily ...
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Laughing a lot of people who are worried that Harry and Meghan don't appear almost together. I think it's great, because the more they keep the discreet romance , the more serious must be, Harry wants to protect her from the press and troll comments, he cares about her, he said the whole world that he's dating her, so... :P
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Isn't that the truth..........I think it is great that they are somehow found a way to avoid the media circus and all the nosey people that want to know everything......taking the time to see if they fit togerher, could or will make a life together, sharing goals, and working for the firm.........all these things must come before the idiots in the media give their 2 cents..........what an intelligent and thoughtful man Prince Harry is, he is doing it his way and the he..ll with everyone else....way to go Harry!
If Harry were intelligent he would have stayed in the Army till he was ready to be needed for full time royal duties... And the relationship with Megan is IMO no differnet to his other ones and wont last.
He wants to protect her? Like REALLY? Megan is a 35 years old z list celeb who just a couple of Months ago would have killed for the attention she is getting now and has her fellow z list cast mates use Harry to promote their until now obscure TV Show ... what is HILARIOUS here is the EXCUSES that some are making to why she is send packing after two or three weeks to Toronto ... Prince Dim is using her for we all know what and will give her the boot pretty soon ... she knows it too being a woman of the World and that is why she has been milking this so called relationship for all that is worth ...
Quote from: Nightowl on March 02, 2017, 05:46:54 AM
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Isn't that the truth..........I think it is great that they are somehow found a way to avoid the media circus and all the nosey people that want to know everything......taking the time to see if they fit togerher, could or will make a life together, sharing goals, and working for the firm.........all these things must come before the idiots in the media give their 2 cents..........what an intelligent and thoughtful man Prince Harry is, he is doing it his way and the he..ll with everyone else....way to go Harry!
I totally agree. IMO, I also think that it seems to have made sense for Harry to leave the army when he did. He has since worked hard for his charities and brought great attention to Sentebale and the Invictus Games. Both charities have made great impact on all those involved and have improved the lives of many.
It seems what Harry and Meghan have found is very special and I'm glad they've made the time to nurture their relationship and just sneak out info when they want to. As Harry said, it's their life. Tabloids and other naysayers can come up with all of the negative and petty stories and comments they want, it doesn't matter at all.
Suits may have been and is still unknown to many, however over the years, they've had millions of viewers, me included, and there are very few television shows that have lasted for 7 years. That is a huge accomplishment, congratulations to the cast, crew and producers of the show. So what if a cast member refers to Harry and Meghan while promoting the show. The show has been on TV way longer than PH and MM relationship so they were doing something good long before. Some people are just coming up with lame excuses just to be negative and because they didn't know about Suits before.
Harry has apparently landed in Jamaica for Tom Inskip's wedding. No sign of Meghan yet, though.
Prince Harry in Jamaica for wedding | News | Jamaica Gleaner (http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20170302/prince-harry-jamaica-wedding)
Oh God will this stuff never end? Time for him to move on to some other actress
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry at friend's wedding | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4280566/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-friend-s-wedding.html)
Prince Harry 'shows girlfriend Meghan Markle off publicly' at his close pal's wedding in Jamaica (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3007376/prince-harry-shows-girlfriend-meghan-markle-off-publicly-at-his-close-pals-wedding-in-jamaica/)
Harry's gang: Who's who in the Prince's inner circle - and will Meghan Markle fit in? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/harrys-gang-princes-inner-circle-will-meghan-markle-fit/)
@amabel AND "NO" IT WON'T EVER END BECAUSE I AM GOING TO KEEP RUBBING IT IN: HARRY AND MEGHAN--- CHEERING THEM ON!! AND INSTEAD OF ADVISING HARRY TO MOVE ON, TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE NOT GOING DOWNHILL BUT CONTINUING TO PROGRESS FOR THIS COUPLE.
^ Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think, Yale! :D
Quote from: Curryong on March 04, 2017, 02:20:42 AM
^ Why don't you tell us what you REALLY think, Yale! :D
If I told her what I REALLY wanted to say, your mouths would opened wide from the shock trust me. That was me being nice in that response.
Cute pic from an instagram account called 'royalty with jam'. So happy for them!😍😍😍
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/BRNX8fBjIUI/)
I thought that using capitals was considered shouting and being rude
Yale is very excited at the moment, so I hope you'll excuse her and her capitals! :wink:
Well I get "jumped on" frequently, so I don't really see why people can do this to me. And no matter how much some people want Harry to marry Megan (or his other 2 logn term girls) I don't believe it will happen. I don't think he is that kene on marriage, and the RF would be very unwilling ot allow a marriage to Megan
Harry said a few times he wanted a family. I doubt he will wait as long to marry as Albert of Monaco did. Chelsy was a teen when they started dating so they could not have married early on in any case. I don't think he ever got serious with Cressida the way he did with Chelsy. The RF could no way prevent a marriage because they allowed Charles a divorced future monarch and Camilla a divorcee who was the other woman in his first marriage, to get married. They would look like hypocrites if they said no to Harry and Meghan, no children are involved and Harry is single and Meghan a divorcee. Besides which Harry will very very unlikely become a monarch. IF she is good for Harry and she is a willing worker for the royals, why not?
^ Agree. IMO, Harry and Meghan look lovely together! I wish them much happiness in their relationship. In addition, to what you mentioned about Charles, both he and Camilla were divorced, have children and the 'RF' still approved and support their relationship, and Charles is heir to the throne, not down in 5th spot like Harry is.
Quote from: v_voom on March 04, 2017, 09:39:17 AM
Cute pic from an instagram account called 'royalty with jam'. So happy for them!😍😍😍
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/BRNX8fBjIUI/)
And I think there was doubt that Harry would bring Meghan to this wedding? Well, that settles that! LOL! And if Harry is invited to Pippa's wedding, Meghan will be at that wedding too with Harry.
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A couple more pictures of Harry and Meghan seated at their assigned table.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Rendezvous in Jamaica for His Best Friend's Wedding | E! News (http://www.eonline.com/news/833577/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-rendezvous-in-jamaica-for-his-best-friend-s-wedding)
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More pictures!!! YAY!!!
Anything & Everything Royals (http://anythingandeverythingroyals.tumblr.com/post/157969856667/mycrarrythings-harry-and-meghan-enjoyed-the)
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Prince Harry Danced for Meghan Markle at Pal?s Jamaica Wedding - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-harry-danced-for-meghan-markle-at-pals-jamaica-wedding-w470416?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Quote from: Lady Deb on March 04, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
^ Agree. IMO, Harry and Meghan look lovely together! I wish them much happiness in their relationship. In addition, to what you mentioned about Charles, both he and Camilla were divorced, have children and the 'RF' still approved and support their relationship, and Charles is heir to the throne, not down in 5th spot like Harry is.
they didn't approve very easily, it took years from Di's death and charles' divorce. And Camilla is enlgish, an aristocrat and part of the Royal circle, who knows what she is signing up to... not an American girl with a career...
Lovely couple! :hug: :hug: And now, what would those people who said they were no longer together say? :hehe: :hehe: :P :P
They're getting married, yes, I'm sure! :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
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I love the looks on their faces in those pictures taken at the wedding. They are very into each other during conversation I believe this is more serious then people think. Also, I thought Meghan looked lovely that dress was very flattering and understated. I wonder where Eri is today? :hehe:
Quote from: Trudie on March 04, 2017, 08:25:25 PM
I love the looks on their faces in those pictures taken at the wedding. They are very into each other during conversation I believe this is more serious then people think. Also, I thought Meghan looked lovely that dress was very flattering and understated. I wonder where Eri is today? :hehe:
I also wanted to know :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
The Pastor talks about Meghan and Harry!
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What a fabulous video. The Pastor was so nice! I didn't know the Duchess of York was a guest as well.
Prince Harry enjoys a dip in Jamaican ocean with Meghan | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4282416/Prince-Harry-enjoys-dip-ocean-Meghan.html#reader-comments)
I am surprised at their body language in the photos. She is the one doing all the PDA. Harry's relationship with Cressida was deemed not serious, affectionate, etc, based on photos like these, yet we are supposed to say this is a loved-up couple, based on these photos. I actually thought we'd be seeing more attention from Harry towards MM. MM seems to be marking her territory, which feeds into my fear that she is really into this relationship and is doing the heavy lifting, because she is after all a celebrity, who sought fame and public attention and this is her biggest break ever.
Photos of course do not prove anything. Yet they do not provide us with a very positive story either. When this was Harry and Cressida the posts were all negative. When it is W&K, the same. I am not going to say positive things based on photos where only one side is being affectionate, in all the photos, in all different circumstances.
Harry doesn't like paparazzi and hates press/public intrusion into his privacy. I wonder how he reconciles this with the fact that his girlfriend is not only in a profession which comes with publicity, but she actively shares her private life and experiences, right down to her bedroom selfies. Now that I've read and learned more, MM's best friend is Jessica Mulroney, who is married to Ben Mulroney who is a host on etalk, a Canadian TV show on entertainment and celebrities. Ben's co-host is the blogger Laineygossip, whose blind item on MM disclosed how KM dissed MM and how MM found this very awkward. She's clearly dished about it to her friends in Toronto. Love is blind, but for how long?
I still predict a marriage, but have a bad feeling about the outcome.
The bride looks lovely and has a wonderful dress. I laughed that one of the maids-of-honour was someone who played KM at a TV series.
I love Montego Bay and had the loveliest vacations there. I am freezing where I am and my next vacation is still months away, so I enjoyed going through the wedding photos.
I am not sure what to think of her dress. I loved it in fashion websites, but not on MM from the blurry photos I've seen. It is very similar to what KM wore to an event and I did not like her version. One of the positives of MM joining BRF would be the fashion aspect so I am disappointed.
Either way it unfolds, this is good for gossip!
Harry seemed to want to rush ahead of Cressida in photos and there was little if any PDA. She would give him "adoring" looks in front of cameras, and he did not reciprocate. He looked a lot more comfortable and affectionate with CHelsy Davy. I don't think Meghan thinks of this as her 'big break'. Why assume the worst? Harry certainly is not dense and would pick up on any "opportunism." She already had her career break and has worked steadily. Meghan if she and Harry get married will most likely quit her career and settle down as a working royal.
The outside photos at the Jamaican wedding (the wedding reception was inside a ballroom in the hotel complex) were indeed just a few moments in time. We only catch little glimpses of Harry jumping up and greeting others for example, though he clearly was doing this several times. We don't know what sort of a mood either Harry or Meghan were in, whether one or both were under the weather, too hot, just wanted some fresh air, or what.
If Harry had not wanted Meghan there he wouldn't have taken her to the wedding as his +1. She wouldn't have been by his side if he was constantly cold to her.
If he felt nothing for her he wouldn't have released the November statement, which was a cry from the heart if ever there was one, in defence of his girlfriend and virtually unprecedented, taking everyone by surprise. There was another earlier set of photos of the two of them, taken in London, in which Harry is seen striding along holding Meghan's hand. No sign there of her doing the 'heavy lifting'.
There seems to be a sort of veering back to the Chelsy years among those who don't like Meghan very much, in which unless Harry is grabbing Meghan with both paws, kissing her continuously and looking at her longingly all the time they are being photographed, the romance is not authentic, that there is something off, that they are not in love.
Yes, Harry did indulge in PDA's with Chelsy and the cameras caught it. However, Harry's no longer 21, he's learned a lot about media misrepresentation since then, and he knows by now that in a mature relationship you don't need to be kissing face all the time for relationships to be serious.
If you are comfortable with each other you can actually look serious at times, have a chat, and not care that people who don't know you are making judgements about your relationship on the strength of a half a dozen photos.
Incidentally the couple retired at 1:30am though the party went on till 3am. Maybe they were tired, or just maybe they wanted to be alone.
Boy do those pictures of them at the table look like a woman trying to sooth her drunk partner after he had a tantrum ... he looks so unhappy or should I say bored while she is a bad actress trying to ACT like everything is OK ... he is pictured without her at the beach after that ... Megan was send packing back to Toronto again ... he can't bare her for more than two Days ... what is shocking to me is how few people are commenting here ... with Cressida is was crazy ... few people care about Harry or who he is sleeping with these Days ...
Plenty of people commenting on the Harry/Meghan relationship all over Twitter, Tumblr, Forums and have for weeks, so you couldn't be more wrong.
Meghan's not in Toronto. Pictures here of Harry and Meghan's bungalow at the Montego Bay Resort.
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/MeghansMirror/status/838144101010698240)
The pastor said that they seemed very passionate, that says it all :D :wub:
How romantic! They are going to get married and there are people who will kill themselves of hatred. :hehe: :hehe:
Harry and Meghan the REAL story of their Jamaican reunion | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284312/Harry-Meghan-REAL-story-Jamaican-reunion.html?login¶m_oauth_token=EKMD8wAAAAAAMAhPAAABWqOeWW0¶m_oauth_verifier=elVZ1rCrug4P4QvdNEratQXwyp)
Quote from: Cat00 on March 06, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
The pastor said that they seemed very passionate, that says it all :D :wub:
How romantic! They are going to get married and there are people who will kill themselves of hatred. :hehe: :hehe:
Harry and Meghan the REAL story of their Jamaican reunion | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284312/Harry-Meghan-REAL-story-Jamaican-reunion.html?login¶m_oauth_token=EKMD8wAAAAAAMAhPAAABWqOeWW0¶m_oauth_verifier=elVZ1rCrug4P4QvdNEratQXwyp)
Very romantic indeed... she copied Kate's dress with a bracelet gifted by her husband 60 miles from her first honeymoon hotel, 4*... probably proposed some places to be visited since she is familiar with the neighborhood...
He was quite rude to her and she is behaving like a teenage girl... these pictures in front of vila are from
Thursday
No one is going to kill themself because Harry is stuck with this middle aged divorcee who isn't that attractive ... more like dying of laughter ... yep we have come to this people ... PRINCE Harry can't even pull fresh out Uni 22 years old Aristo blondes anymore ... they know better ...
^^ I prefer to believe in the vision of the pastor and not in the opinion of envious and frustrated women :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
Quote from: Eri on March 06, 2017, 02:29:46 PM
No one is going to kill themself because Harry is stuck with this middle aged divorcee who isn't that attractive ... more like dying of laughter ... yep we have come to this people ... PRINCE Harry can't even pull fresh out Uni 22 years old Aristo blondes anymore ... they know better ...
Since when is 35 Middle Aged? It is 2017 not 1517 or so I thought
Quote from: SueElen on March 06, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Cat00 on March 06, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
The pastor said that they seemed very passionate, that says it all :D :wub:
How romantic! They are going to get married and there are people who will kill themselves of hatred. :hehe: :hehe:
Harry and Meghan the REAL story of their Jamaican reunion | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284312/Harry-Meghan-REAL-story-Jamaican-reunion.html?login¶m_oauth_token=EKMD8wAAAAAAMAhPAAABWqOeWW0¶m_oauth_verifier=elVZ1rCrug4P4QvdNEratQXwyp)
Very romantic indeed... she copied Kate's dress with a bracelet gifted by her husband 60 miles from her first honeymoon hotel, 4*... probably proposed some places to be visited since she is familiar with the neighborhood...
He was quite rude to her and she is behaving like a teenage girl... these pictures in front of vila are from
Thursday
She acts like a teen because that's the only way to "connect" with Prince Dim ... Harry was sulking ... perhaps he is starting to see this one unlike Cressida is desperate and won't go away easily ...
This is act like a silly teenager and Harry with a grin of debauch, thinking, "What a silly, childish girl .. :D :D
anemic Cressida :lol: :lol:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02847/cressida-march-201_2847452k.jpg
And Cressida needs to consult a good dentist, her teeth are crooked, :lol: :lol:
@Eri completely agree tumblr has been decimated the number of blogs on Harry's side have been reduced to a handful and even those are mostly on hiatus.
I see a marriage on the cards.
Why do the rest of you even bother? Seriously!! No matter what pictures come out no matter how in love they are with each other, certain posters will continue the same crap and frankly I am SICK of it. If they can't move on and discuss other topics about Harry and Meghan, then we should. There no no need to constantly defend the relationship. Harry's KP statement, the current pictures etc speak volumes. They are a relationship, it's serious. They are in love.
Now something new....
I think they might be already engaged just not saying anything. Thoughts?
I was under the apparently false impression if some are to be believed that this is a forum for debate and not an echo chamber where only one side of the argument is held valid?
I very much doubt The Glums are currently engaged but I see an engagement and marriage in their future.
Harry seem more aware of the camera's that were taking pictures of him and Meghan during a friend's wedding. I don't blame him with being annoyed trying to have a good time with people taking pictures.They were holding hands and acting like any other couple.And to be fair a lot of people said similar things about will and kate not being so loved up while dating and now there married with two kids. Sometimes a picture doesn't tell the whole story.I could see them announcing an engagement by the summer and a fall or spring2018 wedding.
Do you all think Harry has met her mother?
I hope this lasts she seems like a nice enough person and they look happy together.
Quote from: Yale on March 06, 2017, 07:30:39 PM
Do you all think Harry has met her mother?
Yes I do believe that he has met her mother. I wonder if she has met his father and stepmother?
Quote from: TLLK on March 06, 2017, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Yale on March 06, 2017, 07:30:39 PM
Do you all think Harry has met her mother?
Yes I do believe that he has met her mother. I wonder if she has met his father and stepmother?
I read that her father met while he was visiting Meghan in Toronto sometime last year.
Quote from: Yale on March 06, 2017, 04:29:51 PM
Why do the rest of you even bother? Seriously!! No matter what pictures come out no matter how in love they are with each other, certain posters will continue the same crap and frankly I am SICK of it. If they can't move on and discuss other topics about Harry and Meghan, then we should. There no no need to constantly defend the relationship. Harry's KP statement, the current pictures etc speak volumes. They are a relationship, it's serious. They are in love.
Now something new....
I think they might be already engaged just not saying anything. Thoughts?
Last time I checked this wasn't a Megan fan site (if you can find any) ... no need to feel sick ... what I AM sick of is the hypocrisy of the same people who acted like he hated Cressida for God knows what reason but she never got articles like this:
Prince Harry and Meghan look 'awkward' says Judi James | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4285908/Body-language-expert-says-Harry-Meghan-look-strained.html)
Meghan Markle: Getting the Cold Shoulder From Prince Harry in Jamaica? - The Hollywood Gossip (https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2017/03/meghan-markle-getting-the-cold-shoulder-from-prince-harry-in-jam/)
Nobody said he "hated" Cressida. I think indifference to her or lack of interest was what was being expressed by him. He would rush ahead of her
QuoteCan Prince Harry marry a divorcée?
After Prince Harry brought his girlfriend, Meghan Markle to his close friend's wedding in Jamaica, rumours have been swirling about another Royal wedding in the near future.
A friend of the couple even spoke to the Mirror, saying: "This the first time that she and Harry have socialised so openly as a couple and is a significant step up in their relationship.
"Make no mistake, he is heads over heels about her. This one could go all the way."
Read more:
Can Prince Harry marry a divorcée? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/can-prince-harry-marry-a-divorcee-77666)
Quote from: Yale on March 06, 2017, 07:30:39 PM
Do you all think Harry has met her mother?
I think Harry must have already met her mother and Meghan must have met at least Will and Kate because she's living with him in the outbuildings of the palace ,so she must have already met them. Did you notice how Harry is fatter? It's Meghan's food, she cooks very well! :nod: :hehe:
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle very much together at friend's wedding in Jamaica (http://www.laineygossip.com/Prince-Harry-and-Meghan-Markle-very-much-together-at-friends-wedding-in-Jamaica/46451?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
I hope these pictures are published :hug: :hug:
Quote from: Cat00 on March 07, 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Quote from: Yale on March 06, 2017, 07:30:39 PM
Do you all think Harry has met her mother?
I think Harry must have already met her mother and Meghan must have met at least Will and Kate because she's living with him in the outbuildings of the palace ,so she must have already met them. Did you notice how Harry is fatter? It's Meghan's food, she cooks very well! :nod: :hehe:
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle very much together at friend's wedding in Jamaica (http://www.laineygossip.com/Prince-Harry-and-Meghan-Markle-very-much-together-at-friends-wedding-in-Jamaica/46451?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
I hope these pictures are published :hug: :hug:
I did see that he has gained some weight and it's all on his girl! LOL!
Quote from: sandy on March 07, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
Nobody said he "hated" Cressida. I think indifference to her or lack of interest was what was being expressed by him. He would rush ahead of her
http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/prince-harry-meghan-jamaica-07mar17-14.jpg
Yeah ... he is super into Megan ... sure ... he wasn't "interested" in someone he dated more than we all know he will bother with Megan ... you are not making any sense ...
I still think they'll buy a home in the US they do marry. I mean, it makes sense. It is her home country and her parents are there. Besides, a married couple needs a place to relax and lay their heads in private specially when their visits are extended visits because it's Meghan's home of birth.
Lets stick to some facts . Our opinions are great, good, but just some facts. :partaay:
*Being seen together.
They were photographed by the paps together leaving a restaurant in London. First sighting together. :consoling1:
Now, candid shots at his beastie's wedding. Second sighting together.
NO, there will be no formal pictures because the BRF do not do formal pics or take the gf's to formal events.
There has to be an engagement first. In the case of W and K, they wet to things together even though they were in a relationship. Dating sounds funny because they were not dating, LOL, as they had lived together. They were photographed by the paps on their vacations. W and K traveled together and broke up and made up during their 8 to 10 years.
^PH not being wth MM. He took her front and center all around all those at his beastie's wedding. How much more do some of you want to see them together? LOL!! Do we need a view of them behind the walls at PH's KP apt.
Fact-they are a couple.
** Marriage. We none know an the we only know through the press and they do not know. IF it gets to that point, it will be leaked and then the formal announcement.
** My opinion, do not think PH will search around like PAlbert...those any years. He is mid 30's, SAME age, you could say as MM. What they are 2-3 years apart. Well, K is 6 months to a year older than PW. Is K too old for PW? No. Is MM too old for PH? Of course not..
I think PH wants marriage, family, his other titles, a more mature lifestyle as his friends are marrying, having families. That is normal. Normal progression in life. I think, perhaps, he is a bit tired, odd man out, 3rd wheel with PK and PW for their events. He has been with them for events since K was pregnant with George.
*MM is worldy, sophiscated, smart, university degreed, pretty, photo ready, young, media savvy and she ahs worked in a career supporting herself.
She is understanding of charitable organizations.
* Comparing to PC and Camilla being divorced.
No comparison. MM did not upsurp the wife. She did not know very , most personal things about the wife and carry on an affair with PH through her marriage and PH's marriage. She and PH did not destroy a young woman's dreams, hopes , desires in her wish and fight for her marriage to PH and their family. PH did not have MM in safe house supplied by friends. Release things to favorite media.
YES, MM was married and divorced to man she was with for about 7 years and then married for 2 years.
YES she is Catholic. She can change her faith to PH's. Her OTHER things, she cannot change. No , she is not British, aristo/nobility/landed gentry, upper class Brit.
If H marries her, she is going to have it far harder then PD, K, Sarah and even Sophie. MM can suceed with PH's support, TPTB's support, never ever reading her press and , and....
I , my opinion, can she really get, understand that her life will be in public for mass consumption, the fishbowl.
Her life behind the palace walls will be hers, BUT her places to live, vacations, childrens' names and schools, her name even, clothing, and more is sort of mapped out. She can choose from the list...will have independence that that way.
Her kids will not be able to go visit at Grandmama's house in Compton , CA.
I , we do not know these people's life, but just following the BRF, that is how we see it.
I hope , if they marry, she can be strong and adapt and be willing to do those things as DofSussex or Essex, etc. Divorce would be really bad.
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Quote from: Eri on March 07, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: sandy on March 07, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
Nobody said he "hated" Cressida. I think indifference to her or lack of interest was what was being expressed by him. He would rush ahead of her
http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/prince-harry-meghan-jamaica-07mar17-14.jpg
Yeah ... he is super into Megan ... sure ... he wasn't "interested" in someone he dated more than we all know he will bother with Megan ... you are not making any sense ...
This not directed at Eri.
I am just using her post because she has a quote from someone else.
Can we all agree he was very much with, into, Chelsy, Cressida, MM and any other woman he dated/was with.
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Quote from: Jennifer on March 07, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
QuoteCan Prince Harry marry a divorcée?
After Prince Harry brought his girlfriend, Meghan Markle to his close friend's wedding in Jamaica, rumours have been swirling about another Royal wedding in the near future.
A friend of the couple even spoke to the Mirror, saying: "This the first time that she and Harry have socialised so openly as a couple and is a significant step up in their relationship.
"Make no mistake, he is heads over heels about her. This one could go all the way."
Read more:
Can Prince Harry marry a divorcée? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/can-prince-harry-marry-a-divorcee-77666)
Yes, he culd.
TPTB wpuld prefer she was not divorced, but...PC and CAMILA sort of opened that gate.
PH as of now is 5th in line. He will never be King and his spouse, say it is MM, Queen Consort.
Camilla on the other hand will be!!!!!!
PC and C were not having kids, a family, although the aim is to airbrush PD out of history by PC' pre folks and claim C as MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER to PH/PW and their kids.
LOL!!!
Such.
Times accept some things. Not everything will ever be accepted, but some things , depending on the people, rank, age might go through. MM has no kids. PH is older and MM like Ed and Sophie were. Ed /Sophe lived together. PK and PW lived together.
YES, MM: American, not wealthy American, Black/Biracial, Catholic, divorced will be reported ad naseum over and over for years, and years...maybe even 10 years or more over and over....
Quote from: Eri on March 07, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: sandy on March 07, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
Nobody said he "hated" Cressida. I think indifference to her or lack of interest was what was being expressed by him. He would rush ahead of her
http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/prince-harry-meghan-jamaica-07mar17-14.jpg
Yeah ... he is super into Megan ... sure ... he wasn't "interested" in someone he dated more than we all know he will bother with Megan ... you are not making any sense ...
I am making sense. If you don't agree it does not mean my post makes no sense. It's your take on it. A person can date but not get engaged to her. Harry and Cressida broke up dating did not mean they had to marry.
Still trying to sell this relationship, huh? I give up!
Quote from: Jennifer on March 07, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
QuoteCan Prince Harry marry a divorcée?
After Prince Harry brought his girlfriend, Meghan Markle to his close friend's wedding in Jamaica, rumours have been swirling about another Royal wedding in the near future.
A friend of the couple even spoke to the Mirror, saying: "This the first time that she and Harry have socialised so openly as a couple and is a significant step up in their relationship.
"Make no mistake, he is heads over heels about her. This one could go all the way."
Read more:
Can Prince Harry marry a divorcée? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/can-prince-harry-marry-a-divorcee-77666)
Harry can marry a divorcee since his father, a future king, married a divorcee (he having divorced his first wife) and the other woman in his first marriage. Also no children are involved. Harry is single and Meghan is a divorcee with no children. If they don't allow Harry the royals would make themselves laughingstocks.
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Quote from: Yale on March 08, 2017, 01:41:14 AM
Still trying to sell this relationship, huh? I give up!
Cressida and Harry are Over with a capital O. I don't get why she keeps resurfacing and the insistance that Harry "hated her."
Quote from: sandy on March 08, 2017, 01:41:23 AM
Quote from: Jennifer on March 07, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
QuoteCan Prince Harry marry a divorcée?
After Prince Harry brought his girlfriend, Meghan Markle to his close friend’s wedding in Jamaica, rumours have been swirling about another Royal wedding in the near future.
A friend of the couple even spoke to the Mirror, saying: “This the first time that she and Harry have socialised so openly as a couple and is a significant step up in their relationship.
“Make no mistake, he is heads over heels about her. This one could go all the way.”
Read more:
Can Prince Harry marry a divorcée? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/can-prince-harry-marry-a-divorcee-77666)
Harry can marry a divorcee since his father, a future king, married a divorcee (he having divorced his first wife) and the other woman in his first marriage. Also no children are involved. Harry is single and Meghan is a divorcee with no children. If they don't allow Harry the royals would make themselves laughingstocks.
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Quote from: Yale on March 08, 2017, 01:41:14 AM
Still trying to sell this relationship, huh? I give up!
Cressida and Harry are Over with a capital O. I don't get why she keeps resurfacing and the insistance that Harry "hated her."
Well, you and others keep discussing this stuff with her! I am trying to change the subject if you can't see that. You all keep rehashing the same stuff over and over again!
Prince Michael married Baroness Marie Christine a divorced catholic but, Marie Christine took on her husbands title as HRH Princess Michael of Kent. It would be insane if Meghan married Harry and not take on the HRH Princess Harry of Wales or if he gets a Dukedom HRH Meghan Duchess of etc. The British never recognized morganatic marriage Edward VIII proposed that and it was rejected.
Quote from: sandy on March 08, 2017, 01:39:01 AM
Quote from: Eri on March 07, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: sandy on March 07, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
Nobody said he "hated" Cressida. I think indifference to her or lack of interest was what was being expressed by him. He would rush ahead of her
http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/prince-harry-meghan-jamaica-07mar17-14.jpg
Yeah ... he is super into Megan ... sure ... he wasn't "interested" in someone he dated more than we all know he will bother with Megan ... you are not making any sense ...
I am making sense. If you don't agree it does not mean my post makes no sense. It's your take on it. A person can date but not get engaged to her. Harry and Cressida broke up dating did not mean they had to marry.
You are not making any sense because as some other poster beautifully said Harry LOVED and CARED for both Chelsy and Cressida or he wouldn't date them yet you are still talking about how YOU think he hated Cressida ... my problem is not Cressida but you and others trying to paint Harry and Megan as the greatest love story to have ever existed yet he is the same with her as he was with Cressida ... the only one he engaged in full PDA was Chelsy ... I also LOVE that you say just because he dated Cressida he didn't have to marry her but he HAS to marry Megan ...
Eri, I think you are out of line saying things like that about another poster. I make sense. So drop it already.
Not every dating couple is madly in love. An engaged committed couple is one thing. And there are those who date who are fond of one another or "in like." It all depends. I don't think he hates Cressida and I think I told you this about 100 times now. Harry and Cressida did not have a relationship that led to an engagement and they broke up. Just because they dated did not mean either was obligated. Chelsy and Harry's relationship did not last though they tried after various breakups.
Do you think because Harry dated Cressida he was "obligated." No, he was not. Both were free to move on. And even if there were an engagement, either one had the right to break up.
I wish Meghan and Harry well and NO, I did not say he "had to" marry her.
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Quote from: Yale on March 08, 2017, 02:10:14 AM
Quote from: sandy on March 08, 2017, 01:41:23 AM
Quote from: Jennifer on March 07, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
QuoteCan Prince Harry marry a divorcée?
After Prince Harry brought his girlfriend, Meghan Markle to his close friend’s wedding in Jamaica, rumours have been swirling about another Royal wedding in the near future.
A friend of the couple even spoke to the Mirror, saying: “This the first time that she and Harry have socialised so openly as a couple and is a significant step up in their relationship.
“Make no mistake, he is heads over heels about her. This one could go all the way.”
Read more:
Can Prince Harry marry a divorcée? – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/can-prince-harry-marry-a-divorcee-77666)
Harry can marry a divorcee since his father, a future king, married a divorcee (he having divorced his first wife) and the other woman in his first marriage. Also no children are involved. Harry is single and Meghan is a divorcee with no children. If they don't allow Harry the royals would make themselves laughingstocks.
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Quote from: Yale on March 08, 2017, 01:41:14 AM
Still trying to sell this relationship, huh? I give up!
Cressida and Harry are Over with a capital O. I don't get why she keeps resurfacing and the insistance that Harry "hated her."
Well, you and others keep discussing this stuff with her! I am trying to change the subject if you can't see that. You all keep rehashing the same stuff over and over again!
It doesn't seem to do any good. I keep getting accused of saying that harry 'hates' Cressida. I don't know where that little gem came up.
^ I am not attacking you as you are free of your opinion as I am mine ... I am just trying to understand how you have come to the conclusion he wasn't interested in Cressida but he is in Megan as Cressida never got articles pointing out how bored and disconnected he acted with her ... I am also trying to understand how you disliked Cressida who wasn't an actress when she dated Harry and had a private Instagram no one was able to get through but you like Megan an actual actress who has Instagram , Twitter and Snapchat ...
He was interested enough in Cressida to date her which does not mean he was madly in love. But the relationship did not stand the test of time and perhaps they found they were incompatible. I did not "dislike" Cressida but the two still broke up. Cressida had and has a lot of PR going for her and was and is no shrinking violet. Meghan has a regular role on a television show and has worked steadily in show biz. Meghan is on a TV show and actresses do use social media. Why are you trying to "understand"? It's my opinion and you don't have to agree with it.
Oh God! Why reminisce about Harry's old relationships? If he's no longer with Chelsy or Cressida, it's because he did not like them enough. When he dated Chelsy, he was a boy, he was just excited about the first relationship, with Cressida, no comments, for me he never liked her, it was just a pastime. With Meghan is different, he is older, more mature, Meghan is a mature, independent and very interesting woman, He likes her so much that he defended her in public, which he never did with any other :brightside:
^ Harry is the same moron who though it is a good idea to get naked in a room full of strangers ... nothing has changed and it won't for a while ... it will take a veeeeeeery special woman to change him and Megan is not that woman she is in it for the publicity and the luxuries his position provides but she will run the minute the novelty of it all fades away and she understands with Harry she would be just a 3th rate Royal who would have to walk five steps behind the real start of the Show ... Kate ...
^ Harry's Las Vegas trip was in 2012, about four and a half years ago. I'm amused by the 'third rate royal'. Harry will be the King's son in Charles's reign, one of only two, he'll be the King's only brother in William's reign, and there's nothing third-rate about that.
He'll be given a Royal Dukedom and Meghan (if they marry which I think they will) will be a Duchess. Same thing as his brother. Nothing third rate about it.
Kate has to curtsey now to all the blood princesses. So will Meghan. In Charles's reign it will only be Camilla and Kate above Meghan and plenty will be curtseying to HER.
I think they're done. Harry looks completely fed up in the Jamaica photos. Even if you can't tell much from still photos, there's not one photo where he smiles at her. It sort of makes sense if she was living with him in London for months, Harry seems to prefer LDR.
^ An Aussie magazine is apparently negotiating for photos of the two of them passionately kissing on a balcony and having fun in the sea together. They were offered to British magazines it seems but KP embargoed them as they were taken without permission. Plenty of people have apparently seen them though, so they will surface sooner or later on foreign sites. Those photos weren't of the wedding reception, which was held inside and where guests reported that the couple was seen being affectionate and having a good time.
Quote from: Tiddles88 on March 08, 2017, 08:50:48 PM
I think they're done. Harry looks completely fed up in the Jamaica photos. Even if you can't tell much from still photos, there's not one photo where he smiles at her. It sort of makes sense if she was living with him in London for months, Harry seems to prefer LDR.
IMO, From looking at many of the photos, he looks like he was extremely upset with all of the paparazzi and she was trying to console him. It is well known how much Harry and William despise the paps. Even in the beach pictures where Meghan wasn't there, Harry seemed upset and frustrated about pictures being taken.
I would disagree that Harry is a "third rate royal". He has rough edges but that is a good all round guy. I would go as far as saying that he is a much more personable prince than William. Some people are in wishful thinking mode because they desperately want to believe Meghan is about to be dumped. If public opinion forces him to give her up, she might end up being the Camilla of his life. We all know how that one ended.
Quote from: Curryong on March 08, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
^ Harry's Las Vegas trip was in 2012, about four and a half years ago. I'm amused by the 'third rate royal'. Harry will be the King's son in Charles's reign, one of only two, he'll be the King's only brother in William's reign, and there's nothing third-rate about that.
He'll be given a Royal Dukedom and Meghan (if they marry which I think they will) will be a Duchess. Same thing as his brother. Nothing third rate about it.
Kate has to curtsey now to all the blood princesses. So will Meghan. In Charles's reign it will only be Camilla and Kate above Meghan and plenty will be curtseying to HER.
She would be a third rate Royal as George and Charlotte (and possibly another child) will grow up to keep the press and public busy ... she would be the new Sophie ... someone no one cares about ... to my knowledge Royals don't courtesy to no one but Liz so both Kate and possibly Megan would courtesy only to my man Chuck ... but ... Megan would always be irrelevant compared to Kate and would have to walk three steps behind her ...
But
@Eri aren't you being a little bit harsh on Sophie. She actually does a fair bit of charity and the royal family would be completely isolated from social events in Europe had it not been for Sophie and Edward who are always there. I can only imagine that Charles would consider it beneath his dignity to attend a continental weddings of European royalty. Above all, she is a trusted daughter-in-law to the queen with whom she does not need to worry about sleights of protocol. Unlike Camilla (who is set to be the next queen consort); there is less tension with a less senior member of the clan.
My own reading is that Charles court is going to resemble that of his great great grandfather Edward VI. So you can expect lavish parties, armies of servants and certainly lots of curtsying to the King and Queen. Camilla does not strike me as the type to be too hang up on protocol but Charles is definitely a stickler for such things. Meghan might find that she is not an insignificant princess, particularly if she can connect the monarchy to the North American market (a bit like Diana used to do). Just a thought.
George is four in June, Charlotte is under two. They will go to school then university (privacy agreements in place as there was for William) then, for George, training in the armed services, for Charlotte possibly further study overseas in a Commonwealth country.
That's twenty years at least before us of the media being told to lay off, and possibly thirty before George is in public view as a full time Royal, if he follows his father's path. How long do you think it's going to be before Harry/Meghan marry, for God's sake, if they do? Twenty five years? !!
In addition to which, the Wessexes comprise the fourth child of the Queen and her daughter in law. Charles hasn't got any other children but William and Harry.
Yet you seriously think that Harry and his wife are going to be forgotten people when Charles is King? Even if the Queen lives for another ten years George will still be a schoolboy. Who do you think is going to carry out many of the Royal engagements at that time, even if they are slimmed down. A very elderly King and his even more elderly wife, William and Kate and ?
Are they going to pull George and Charlotte out of school to perform royal duties, under the spotlight? Even when George is a young man he and his wife aren't going to be able to perform everything that will need to be done in William's reign.
As Harry will be the son of a King and only sibling to another, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but he's going to be in the limelight for at least a quarter of a century more, and his wife (whoever she is) will be there with him.
Quote from: Curryong on March 08, 2017, 09:31:51 PM
^ An Aussie magazine is apparently negotiating for photos of the two of them passionately kissing on a balcony and having fun in the sea together. They were offered to British magazines it seems but KP embargoed them as they were taken without permission. Plenty of people have apparently seen them though, so they will surface sooner or later on foreign sites. Those photos weren't of the wedding reception, which was held inside and where guests reported that the couple was seen being affectionate and having a good time.
Lainey is a Toronto based blogger who seems to want to stay in Megan's people good side for as long as she is with Harry for obvious reasons ... she is not trustworthy especially since those pictures haven't come out yet ... all the pictures I have seen indicate he is bored of her already ...
Quote from: royalanthropologist on March 09, 2017, 07:31:02 AM
But @Eri aren't you being a little bit harsh on Sophie. She actually does a fair bit of charity and the royal family would be completely isolated from social events in Europe had it not been for Sophie and Edward who are always there. I can only imagine that Charles would consider it beneath his dignity to attend a continental weddings of European royalty. Above all, she is a trusted daughter-in-law to the queen with whom she does not need to worry about sleights of protocol. Unlike Camilla (who is set to be the next queen consort); there is less tension with a less senior member of the clan.
My own reading is that Charles court is going to resemble that of his great great grandfather Edward VI. So you can expect lavish parties, armies of servants and certainly lots of curtsying to the King and Queen. Camilla does not strike me as the type to be too hang up on protocol but Charles is definitely a stickler for such things. Meghan might find that she is not an insignificant princess, particularly if she can connect the monarchy to the North American market (a bit like Diana used to do). Just a thought.
I think Camilla loves protocol, this is what she wants. I think Camilla enjoys people curtsying too her. Edward VII had a double life, appearances with his wife and weekends with his various mistresses.
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Quote from: Eri on March 09, 2017, 07:20:12 AM
Quote from: Curryong on March 08, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
^ Harry's Las Vegas trip was in 2012, about four and a half years ago. I'm amused by the 'third rate royal'. Harry will be the King's son in Charles's reign, one of only two, he'll be the King's only brother in William's reign, and there's nothing third-rate about that.
He'll be given a Royal Dukedom and Meghan (if they marry which I think they will) will be a Duchess. Same thing as his brother. Nothing third rate about it.
Kate has to curtsey now to all the blood princesses. So will Meghan. In Charles's reign it will only be Camilla and Kate above Meghan and plenty will be curtseying to HER.
She would be a third rate Royal as George and Charlotte (and possibly another child) will grow up to keep the press and public busy ... she would be the new Sophie ... someone no one cares about ... to my knowledge Royals don't courtesy to no one but Liz so both Kate and possibly Megan would courtesy only to my man Chuck ... but ... Megan would always be irrelevant compared to Kate and would have to walk three steps behind her ...
George and Charlotte are not in the spotlight. Kate may not have more children. The children will be going to school and will not be doing royal appearances or work for obvious reasons. Harry is ahead of Edward in the line of succession, way ahead. Why would Meghan be irrelevant? She and Harry if they marry would be senior royals and Charles indicated Harry is a senior royal.
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Quote from: royalanthropologist on March 09, 2017, 06:49:35 AM
I would disagree that Harry is a "third rate royal". He has rough edges but that is a good all round guy. I would go as far as saying that he is a much more personable prince than William. Some people are in wishful thinking mode because they desperately want to believe Meghan is about to be dumped. If public opinion forces him to give her up, she might end up being the Camilla of his life. We all know how that one ended.
Harry can't be forced to give Meghan up by public opinion. That is just not going to happen. Many of the public do not like Camilla, but she got in anyway. If she got in, surely Meghan will (no children were involved in her marriage, and Harry is not divorced). Believe it or not, some people actually are rooting for the couple.
^ Honestly this is virtually the only place I can find three people who like this woman ... most agree she is making Pipps look classy ... not an easy fit ...
Lainey is trustworthy yes, a lot of what she said later was proven to be true and she has no reason to go in Meghan's favor. It is obvious that they are together and firm, Meghan remains discreet in instagram, just posting self help phrases, this' is the concrete proof that they are more connected than ever.
Harry never liked paparazzi or the press, especially after they had been dowdy with Meghan in the publications, which forced him to defend her in public. It is natural for him to appear serious in the photos, they were being photographed in an intimate moment, I am sure that when he is alone with Meghan it is different
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Quote from: Eri on March 09, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
^ Honestly this is virtually the only place I can find three people who like this woman ... most agree she is making Pipps look classy ... not an easy fit ...
Lol lol lol is the opposite. Here only 2 or 3 people are against dating, most are in favor, just count, and in "The Royal Forums," most are also in favor. :teehee:
After all these events from last week my mind hasn't changed a bit. I firmly believe Meghan is the one. She'll go all the way. Unlike Chelsy or Cressie she's not afraid of spotlight and is ready to handle it. Harry was clearly annoyed by flashes and papps and Meg was there to comfort him. Oh, and she's a stunner. A total upgrade from his previous girlfriends (and I like both Chelsy and Cressida).
^ He knew the press would be there ... he is only been famous since his first breath ... seems to me like an excuse to why he looked so ooooooover her ... she won't go the distance as Prince Dim is not anywhere near ready to settle down ... he is just waiting for those 20 something years old I am sure he is texting to give him the time of Day ...
Quote from: Eri on March 09, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
^ Honestly this is virtually the only place I can find three people who like this woman ... most agree she is making Pipps look classy ... not an easy fit ...
Not quite this place has more who like than dislike her however, you have your opinion despite evidence to the contrary. As for her making Pippa look classy not even close. Pippa's only job is self promotion supported by her parents. Pippa charity work is raising money doing sports wearing tight Lycra to show off her body. Meghans job is an actress and her promotion is her show and her charity work she is also making her own way in life.
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Quote from: Eri on March 09, 2017, 03:56:46 PM
^ He knew the press would be there ... he is only been famous since his first breath ... seems to me like an excuse to why he looked so ooooooover her ... she won't go the distance as Prince Dim is not anywhere near ready to settle down ... he is just waiting for those 20 something years old I am sure he is texting to give him the time of Day ...
Sorry to break the news to you but Harry doesn't operate the same way as his father.
Quote from: Eri on March 09, 2017, 03:56:46 PM
^ He knew the press would be there ... he is only been famous since his first breath ... seems to me like an excuse to why he looked so ooooooover her ... she won't go the distance as Prince Dim is not anywhere near ready to settle down ... he is just waiting for those 20 something years old I am sure he is texting to give him the time of Day ...
Agree to disagree. Of course he expected papps but in that moment you can still be annoyed. They didn't want to be centre of attention but they knew they will. He wouldn't invite her if he's over her. They hold each other's hands. He put that statement last year to the world. Something even Will didn't do for Kate. If this relationship ends, it'll be Meg who did it not Harry. As always time will tell. My bet is on engagement sooner rather than later.
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Meghan has a lot more charisma than Kate, besides being more articulate, just watch her interviews. If she marries Harry, and I think that's what will happen, she'll overshadow Kate just as Harry overshadows his brother. The couple will be the star of royalty :hug:
I'll believe in the second set of photos when I see them, lots of people claims to have seen the Beast of Bodmin too, or Springheeled Jack, doesn't mean it's true. And even Lainey doesn't claim to have seen them, only heard of them, sooooo.... big pinch of salt, I think.
As for the photos we have seen. If I was Meghan and my boyfriend sat sulking at a time that we were in a LDR, only to perk up with a big smile when he saw a female friend, I'd be pissed off. I mean it's not a good sign for the relationship is it?
Harry must find her interesting and a change of type. But that will only last so long. I just don't see her fitting in with that family on a regular basis. She is into yoga and self-growth which is typical for a Los Angeles raised actress. I am also from Los Angeles and into that stuff. It is grounding on many levels and Harry might need that energy now. But that does not make for a royal marriage neccesarily in the long run. He may very well take his time before he marries and experiment in spite of his desire to have a family. He can wait until his 40s easily.
A few years ago I posted a question here.....
I asked if you all Harry would ever date or fall in love with any American woman. Most of you said it was possible but HIGHLY unlikely. Now, what's happened? Not only is Prince Harry dating an American, he is in love with her and she's half black. But I called this one. And I am calling this next one.
HARRY WILL BE ENGAGED SOONER THAN LATER AND HE WILL MARRY HER!
If Yale is right, then I predict this...
THEY WILL GET DIVORCED. I don't see this one lasting.
Why wish them bad luck? They know divorce is not easy in the RF and I think both will want to be sure before they get engaged. I don't think they will rush into anything.
Quote from: Cat00 on March 09, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
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Meghan has a lot more charisma than Kate, besides being more articulate, just watch her interviews. If she marries Harry, and I think that's what will happen, she'll overshadow Kate just as Harry overshadows his brother. The couple will be the star of royalty :hug:
And less pressure for PH and whoever his wife will be.
Quote from: sandy on March 10, 2017, 12:50:10 AM
Why wish them bad luck? They know divorce is not easy in the RF and I think both will want to be sure before they get engaged. I don't think they will rush into anything.
It's all because she is American, half black especially and it's also jealously. If she were British and 100% white, she would not getting all the negativity and backlash. We were discussing this at work last week and a fellow colleague said the exact same thing. What kind of person would wish a divorce on a budding couple like that?!
I think if they both had met and married 10 years ago chances of divorce would have been higher. The fact that they are both in their 30's established careers and maturity I would think put their chances of divorce at 0-1%. Given the fact that Harry has publicly defended her and has tried to shield her from racist trolls say a lot for him as a man and as a potential husband. Meghan has maintained her lifestyle the same as she always has except now she visits him as well as him visiting her they fly a lot but the paps because she is dating Harry are out reporting her every move that is not her fault it is the greedy paps.
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I also don't understand how some people can wish evil to others, what we desire for others after we attract to ourselves. I doubt if Harry marries Meghan will end up in divorce, Meghan is a smart, centered and mature woman, she knows very well where she's entering
I don't wish divorce on anyone. I think MM is very accomplished. I think Harry needs even more time to really find himself. I think this is a relationship for growing but not for marriage.. at least a long term one... not these two. Just the way I see it. And by the way, divorce may not be easy in the RF, but it is sure easy enough that many get one! And one thing I personally would love to see MM accomplish with Harry is getting him to STOP HUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't imagine MM likes that in him. O ne would think those princes would have better things to do than watch animals die.
You are not in the relationship. The way you see it obviously is not the way they see it. It is not easy to get a divorce in the RF. Read up on it.
Quote from: lk1957 on March 10, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
I don't wish divorce on anyone. I think MM is very accomplished. I think Harry needs even more time to really find himself. I think this is a relationship for growing but not for marriage.. at least a long term one... not these two. Just the way I see it. And by the way, divorce may not be easy in the RF, but it is sure easy enough that many get one! And one thing I personally would love to see MM accomplish with Harry is getting him to STOP HUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't imagine MM likes that in him. O ne would think those princes would have better things to do than watch animals die.
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Quote from: Cat00 on March 10, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
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I doubt if Harry marries Meghan will end up in divorce, Meghan is a smart, centered and mature woman, she knows very well where she's entering
I don't think she has the faintest idea what she's getting herself into. Diana, born into the aristocracy and in a family who closely associated with the royals, didn't know what she was marrying into, how could Meghan? I hope she doesn't blind herself with the princess title, because IMO she could do much better than Harry.
Diana was not very savvy on that issue, she let the "princess tittle" nd her infatuation with Charles and her desire to make a grand marriage blind her. I agree though that someone like Megahn probably doesn't realise what a royal marriage entails, but it is not likely that she and H will marry anyway. (However I doubt if socially she could do better than Harry, he is a Prince and very rich.. its just that I don't believe a career minded American lady would really be suited to the rrestrictions of being a Princess
This is interesting
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's romantic Caribbean getaway for friend's wedding is the CLEAREST sign yet he's set to pop the question (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3063142/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-romantic-caribbean-getaway-for-friends-wedding-is-the-clearest-sign-yet-hes-set-to-pop-the-question/)
Also Emily Andrews confirmed on twitter she saw more intimate photos of H&M in Jamaica
I wonder if Apartments 8 and 9 (Harry's childhood home) could be a future family home for him? With the new basement renovation happening below the Orangery to create space for KP staff, this could be a sign that Nott Cott is only a temporary base for Harry.
^ I totally agree in fact William and Kate had the option of selecting apartments 8 and 9. Nott Cott would be the perfect starter home with an eventual move into one of the bigger flats unless the former rooms of Charles, William and Harry at St James Palace are available as an option.
^ Kate and William started their married life off at Nott Cott, didn't they, as Apartment 1A hadn't then been renovated. I suppose Harry and Meghan could remain at Nott Cott for a while after the wedding. It's when the first child is due to arrive that's problematic for royals in smaller accommodation, as there is inevitably extra staff including a nanny to be accommodated then.
I did wonder when the news came out via the Daily Fail whether the basement for staff option under the Orangery was because plans are in place to give Harry an apartment at KP that will take him through the rest of his adult life, including the addition of wife and family. I can't see Harry at St James's Palace. The apartments there are on the small side and the palace is quite gloomy.
Apartments 8 and 9 are still an option for conversion and seemingly several of us had the same idea. Admittedly Apartments 8 and 9 would still be smallish by Royal standards, but Diana managed, and, like William and Kate's Apartment 1a, there might be plans for another room or two gauged out of the Palace if extra is needed. I believe Apartments 8 and 9 were rejected by the Cambridges for privacy reasons. However this may not bother Harry and wife.
Princess Michael suggested Wren House for Harry at one stage, I believe. It is quite roomy apparently but the Duke of Kent lives there and he's not moving soon!
Quote from: amabel on March 11, 2017, 11:43:31 AM
Diana was not very savvy on that issue, she let the "princess tittle" nd her infatuation with Charles and her desire to make a grand marriage blind her. I agree though that someone like Megahn probably doesn't realise what a royal marriage entails, but it is not likely that she and H will marry anyway. (However I doubt if socially she could do better than Harry, he is a Prince and very rich.. its just that I don't believe a career minded American lady would really be suited to the rrestrictions of being a Princess
Diana did not talk about wanting a "grand marriage" or the "princess title." As a child of a divorced couple she wanted to have a happy family life with husband and children. Charles asked her to marry him because she was an aristo, fertile, and with no past. He needed heirs. Why is Charles excused he was the one who proposed to her and chose her? If she and Harry love each other enough to marry, then they will marry. She can give up her career and if she and Harry want to be together they will.
Quote from: Curryong on March 11, 2017, 10:58:29 PM
^ Kate and William started their married life off at Nott Cott, didn't they, as Apartment 1A hadn't then been renovated. I suppose Harry and Meghan could remain at Nott Cott for a while after the wedding. It's when the first child is due to arrive that's problematic for royals in smaller accommodation, as there is inevitably extra staff including a nanny to be accommodated then.
I did wonder when the news came out via the Daily Fail whether the basement for staff option under the Orangery was because plans are in place to give Harry an apartment at KP that will take him through the rest of his adult life, including the addition of wife and family. I can't see Harry at St James's Palace. The apartments there are on the small side and the palace is quite gloomy.
Apartments 8 and 9 are still an option for conversion and seemingly several of us had the same idea. Admittedly Apartments 8 and 9 would still be smallish by Royal standards, but Diana managed, and, like William and Kate's Apartment 1a, there might be plans for another room or two gauged out of the Palace if extra is needed. I believe Apartments 8 and 9 were rejected by the Cambridges for privacy reasons. However this may not bother Harry and wife.
Princess Michael suggested Wren House for Harry at one stage, I believe. It is quite roomy apparently but the Duke of Kent lives there and he's not moving soon!
Fun to think that there might be more children at KP in the future. The Kents, Gloucesters, Snowdens and the Wales were all bringing up teens/kids for a few years there. Apts 8 and 9 might need some renovation/upgrading (electrical, plumbing, maintenance) work but since it had work done in the early eighties there might be less required than at 1A. Security wise it does make sense to have them in the same complex IMO.
With speaking British English and American English, I wonder how their kids will say "Mother." The British say "mum" and "mummy" I believe? While in the US, it's "Mom", "Mother" or "Mama".
I bet Meghan says all three depending on what she feels like says or whatever comes out. I think, "Mama" might be a save bet too. Meghan mother is from TN and Georgia I read and those are very southern states.
Nice to think that this could be possible for them in the future. :wub: I'm going to go with mama for the first few years and then their child will switch to mummy like his/her classmates.
Ya know, I like the sound of the English version but I hope the kids being around their mother, they'll speak English like her rather than their father. I like Mama, that is what I call my mother. I know Meghan will not start calling her mother mum or mummy.
^ Often speech is reinforced or encouraged by the nanny hired to look after the child/children. If Harry and wife engage an English nanny IMO it's more likely that the child will say Mummy, in spite of Meghan's input. Sad to say, the British public wouldn't be too happy with one of the next generation of their Royal family referring to his/her mother as 'Mommy' in public. There's enough prejudice in England against an American fitting in as part of the BRF IMO, without piling on more. Their child could well say Mama in private, which is very cute. However, a school age child would probably say 'Mummy' like his/her peers.
Quote from: Curryong on March 12, 2017, 03:18:11 AM
^ Often speech is reinforced or encouraged by the nanny hired to look after the child/children. If Harry and wife engage an English nanny IMO it's more likely that the child will say Mummy, in spite of Meghan's input. Sad to say, the British public wouldn't be too happy with one of the next generation of their Royal family referring to his/her mother as 'Mommy' in public. There's enough prejudice in England against an American fitting in as part of the BRF IMO, without piling on more. Their child could well say Mama in private, which is very cute. However, a school age child would probably say 'Mummy' like his/her peers.
Just thought about something funny.... This won't happen BUT could you imagine the look on Meghan's mother's face if she herself called her "mummy" or mum?
Also, the kids' America roots must be acknowledged and accepted too now! The kids should call their mother what ever they want!
^In theory that's quite correct. However their father would be a member of the BRF, a King's son in the future and that overrides everything, really. Autumn Phillips is Cnadian born and Peter, although not strictly a member of the BRF, is the Queen's grandson. I don't believe Autumn's little girls call her Mommy. Harry is a senior Royal and is popular. The media follow him. Meghan is going to have to fit into the BRF if she wants to keep the media and the British people on-side, and that includes whatever children she may have with Harry.
I'm just expressing the view that some English people wouldn't be happy if Meghan's children started using non-British expressions. There would be comments in the tabloids and elsewhere about young members of the BRF turning into 'pseudo-Yanks', and the PR would not be good.
I'm not saying it's correct, just that's the way it would turn out to be, IMO. Anyway, after years in the UK Meghan, like other ex-pats who live there for a long time, could well start using British expressions and names like Mum, herself.
Yale, with the greatest respect, I'm mystified. You want Meghan to live in the US after she marries, not to give up acting and her children to speak with American accents, why bother with Harry? Surely there are ginger, balding, scruffy looking men in the States too? Some of them are even quite rich. (In fact I know one and he's richer than Harry - no title though)
Quote from: Tiddles88 on March 12, 2017, 09:19:19 AM
Yale, with the greatest respect, I'm mystified. You want Meghan to live in the US after she marries, not to give up acting and her children to speak with American accents, why bother with Harry? Surely there are ginger, balding, scruffy looking men in the States too? Some of them are even quite rich. (In fact I know one and he's richer than Harry - no title though)
I didn't say anything like that. Meghan can't live in the US after she marries Harry of course not. But marriage to him should not totally change her has a person or how she was raised is what I am saying. Their children and their dialects is just me thinking out loud, having fun, and changing the subject from, I hate Megahn, Meghan is not right for Harry or the BRF, or it won't last crap.
^^^Thank you
@Yale for making an attempt to change the tone of the thread. The speculation about what any future children would call them is a nice change.
I am all for her marry Harry but not if she expected to loose herself, who she is as a person and how she was raised and where she was born. Some insist that she will have to live up acting, some even have hinted that she would not be allowed to return home to the US to visit for a while, that she would have to give citizenship of her home country. The acting I can almost understand, but I think Harry would be fine with acting from time to time, but all of the other crap posted I am not buying.
Their kids will have American grandparents. Both cultures and influences on the kids should be accepted and respected. Harry doesn't care what the British public thinks and that's not likely to change when his children arrive.
^ I see. Well, in that case, assuming they get married:
- I think they will buy a house in the US, but not spend very much time there.
- Meghan will have to give up acting.
- The kids will call her mama (which I believe is what William and Harry called Diana when they were very little)
- Meghan will take elocution lessons and her accent will gradually become mid-atlantic, then tend towards RP, but still with an American flavour.
Personally, I hope they don't get married, because Meghan seems to be a really bad fit with the BRF (she's not bland and boring like Kate) and I honestly think she can do better in every way than Harry.
What a romantic thing do do if true which I hope it's not in fact I hope it's not. Harry has to catch Meghan off guard to surprise her and this article if it were true would ruin that for them. That is why I hope there is no truth in it.
Prince Harry plans to ?turn Diana?s tiara into engagement ring? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/778143/prince-harry-propose-meghan-markle-princess-diana-tiara-ring)
Quote from: Tiddles88 on March 12, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
^ I see. Well, in that case, assuming they get married:
- I think they will buy a house in the US, but not spend very much time there.
- Meghan will have to give up acting.
- The kids will call her mama (which I believe is what William and Harry called Diana when they were very little)
- Meghan will take elocution lessons and her accent will gradually become mid-atlantic, then tend towards RP, but still with an American flavour.
Personally, I hope they don't get married, because Meghan seems to be a really bad fit with the BRF (she's not bland and boring like Kate) and I honestly think she can do better in every way than Harry.
Why must a royal wife be "bland"? There were very vivacious women who married into the royal family including Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and Princess Marina for instance. I don't see her as a bad fit if she and Harry are in love and want to get married. I think she will adapt well.
From what I know of the BRF I would think that Meghan would almost certainly be required to become a British citizen. Harry will never get to the throne but he is still a senior Royal and a King's son when Charles succeeds. I don't think TPTB would allow a foreign national to marry in at that level without her at least having dual citizenship. It would be bad PR, and when on tour the formula is always that the Royal has been asked to go on behalf of HM Government. The British Foreign/Commonwealth Office can't direct foreigners to act on their behalf, even Harry's wife.
I would be absolutely astounded if Meghan were to be allowed to keep acting. It would be unprecedented and I don't believe it would be allowed for all sorts of reasons. I also don't think that any property would be bought by Harry/Meghan either in California or in the US in general.
Harry is wealthy but not that wealthy. The BRF has investment property all over the world including North America, in the shape of apartments mostly, and one of these could be used. However, members of the family never have any trouble getting people to lend them property when they want to visit a locale for a while and that is probably what would happen here. Meghan might keep her Toronto pad as well.
The trouble with any senior Royal spending huge lengths of time abroad is security expenses. Harry's time in Africa with RPOs could be explained away by his doing conservation work. Holidays in LA catching up with Meghan's mother couldn't be justified in the same way. British media and government would soon start complaining about security expenses and time spent holidaying away from the UK. If Rania went to England to visit her daughter and stay with the couple that wouldn't draw the same objections and would be considered OK.
No member of the BRF can afford to ignore the British media for long.
A case in point is the rate of engagements this year in comparison to last year. The fact that the Cambridges and Harry have already performed a lot of engagements this year is partly because the Queen and PP are now very elderly and they are now stepping up to the plate. However, I also believe that a lot more have been pencilled in because of a sustained Press campaign last year about the Cambridges in particular not working enough, and Harry taking time off in Africa also came in for criticism.
The point is that Harry certainly won't take advice from the British public and Press as to who he is to marry.
However, the rest of his life is pretty well circumscribed and restricted. The BRF is a juggernaut as well as a gilded cage and members have to fit in and behave in a certain way or be crushed, as Diana and Fergie found to their cost. Members certainly can't do what they want, go swanning off to wherever they want when they want. Meghan will have to conform or she will be out, it will be as simple as that. It's just the way the family operates.
Quote from: Yale on March 12, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
What a romantic thing do do if true which I hope it's not in fact I hope it's not. Harry has to catch Meghan off guard to surprise her and this article if it were true would ruin that for them. That is why I hope there is no truth in it.
Prince Harry plans to ?turn Diana?s tiara into engagement ring? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/778143/prince-harry-propose-meghan-markle-princess-diana-tiara-ring)
From what I have read that photo shows a piece that was loaned to that Diana from the Queen for the Australian tour and would have been returned upon her divorce. Now it is possible that there is another similar one that Charles gifted to Diana and was part of her personal property. Upon her death it was inherited by her sons.
If Harry wishes to create a ring for his future bride from some of his mother's jewelry then I'm sure that he has some options to use.
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QuoteFrom what I know of the BRF I would think that Meghan would almost certainly be required to become a British citizen. Harry will never get to the throne but he is still a senior Royal and a King's son when Charles succeeds. I don't think TPTB would allow a foreign national to marry in at that level without her at least having dual citizenship. It would be bad PR, and when on tour the formula is always that the Royal has been asked to go on behalf of HM Government. The British Foreign/Commonwealth Office can't direct foreigners to act on their behalf, even Harry's wife.
Good points
@Curryong. Among the foreign nationals that have married into the family most have been Commonwealth citizens ie: Canada or New Zealand. Would you happen to know if Brigitte (Denmark) and Marie Christine (Austria) have relinquished their original citizenship?
^ The records are quiet about the citizenship of the Duchess of Gloucester and Princess Marie-Christine, TLLK. Not a sausage about it anywhere.
However, Marina of Kent certainly received British citizenship when she married a King's son and I believe it would be the same for Meghan. Brigitte has been on many trips overseas representing the Queen. It would be inconceivable in my view for her to do that without having at least dual citizenship.
I don't know when Marie-Christine (Princess Michael of Kent) went to Australia but I believe it was when she was very small. Her mother and brother had/have Australian citizenship. Her brother worked in the Australiian public service in Canberra, impossible to do if you aren't an Australian citizen, so it may be that Marie-Christine herself obtained Australian Residency when she was younger and received British citizenship later. She's referred to as British in everything I've read.
Quote from: sandy on March 12, 2017, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: Tiddles88 on March 12, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
^ I see. Well, in that case, assuming they get married:
- I think they will buy a house in the US, but not spend very much time there.
- Meghan will have to give up acting.
- The kids will call her mama (which I believe is what William and Harry called Diana when they were very little)
- Meghan will take elocution lessons and her accent will gradually become mid-atlantic, then tend towards RP, but still with an American flavour.
Personally, I hope they don't get married, because Meghan seems to be a really bad fit with the BRF (she's not bland and boring like Kate) and I honestly think she can do better in every way than Harry.
Why must a royal wife be "bland"? There were very vivacious women who married into the royal family including Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and Princess Marina for instance. I don't see her as a bad fit if she and Harry are in love and want to get married. I think she will adapt well.
Adapting is one but changing her is something else entirely. Meghan is a strong woman so I highly doubt she will allow Harry's family to do that. In fact, I doubt he would allow it himself. The fact that she is different and not a British woman is partly what attracts Harry to Meghan as a person, a girlfriend and a wife is what I believe.
I like Harry very much and favour him marrying Meghan if he's in love. However, Meghan will become the wife of a senior member of the BRF if they marry, whether she is foreign, 'different' or not. Therefore she will have to fit in to the BRF lifestyle, give up her acting career, and realise that as a working member of the BRF she (and Harry) won't be able to make frequent visits to the US or fly off to exotic locations for holidays whenever she feels like it and has the spare time.
Meghan will have to more or less conform to a standard of behaviour and a lifestyle that may seem very alien to her. You can't be a rebel (as Diana tried to be) or a constant traveller (the Yorks) in the BRF without paying for it in some way, both in public support and in other ways.
Harry is a very easygoing bloke, but he is still a Royal. He participates, and seemingly enjoys, shoots at Sandringham, fishing at Birkhall, Ascot at Windsor, Remembrance Days and Sandringham Christmases with his family. Even if the couple divide their Christmases as the Cambridges do, that still means formal Sandringham Xmases every other year.
Quote from: Curryong on March 13, 2017, 01:38:37 AM
I like Harry very much and favour him marrying Meghan if he's in love. However, Meghan will become the wife of a senior member of the BRF if they marry, whether she is foreign, 'different' or not. Therefore she will have to fit in to the BRF lifestyle, give up her acting career, and realise that as a working member of the BRF she (and Harry) won't be able to make frequent visits to the US or fly off to exotic locations for holidays whenever she feels like it and has the spare time.
Meghan will have to more or less conform to a standard of behaviour and a lifestyle that may seem very alien to her. You can't be a rebel (as Diana tried to be) or a constant traveller (the Yorks) in the BRF without paying for it in some way, both in public support and in other ways.
Harry is a very easygoing bloke, but he is still a Royal. He participates, and seemingly enjoys, shoots at Sandringham, fishing at Birkhall, Ascot at Windsor, Remembrance Days and Sandringham Christmases with his family. Even if the couple divide their Christmases as the Cambridges do, that still means formal Sandringham Xmases every other year.
Now suppose you're wrong and she doesn't have to stop acting 100%? Have you ever thought about that? Harry is no longer 2nd and 3rd in line for the throne. Harry himself doesn't want to be a full time royal. And I sick of reading that she'll have to conform to stuff as if she has to stop being an American, who she is and loose herself in the process. No!
^ If Meghan continues to act after marriage she will be stepping into a minefield.
Sophie got criticised during her time running a PR firm with allegations of favouritism shown to some of her clients. The Wessexes were further away from the throne than Harry is now but the critics were still voracious.
In show business it will be even worse. If Meghan gets a large part in a major film there will be allegations that she only got it because of who she is. There will be the jealousy of fellow actors.
If she's involved in a love scene or even kissing someone on screen it will be all over the tabloids. If she becomes friendly, just friendly, with a fellow male actor and is seen laughing with him, hugging him, having a drink with him, the tabloids will have a field day!
British tabloid reporters (who are capable of anything) will hang around the movie or TV set where Meghan is, trolling for any gossip. If fellow actors don't like her, another story for them! If she goes out in a group of fellow actors to a bar in her off time, another potential scandal.
Royals are not supposed to promote commercial products which is what a film is. How will Meghan be able to promote anything she appears in, under those rules?
The wife of a senior member of the BRF just has to work at being a Royal, at engagements, because that's just what they do.
Harry may not like it too much. I doubt that William does. They perform charitable engagements and take part in ceremonial because, as members of the BRF that is their duty. It's 'paying' in a way, for living where they do, and for the perks of the position that they enjoy. That goes for their wives also.
And believe me, because he is William's only sibling and Charles's only other son, Harry will be a full time Royal until George at least is able to take on royal duties and probably after that as well.
There's a reason why no female spouse in the BRF has never been able to work in female employment after marriage. I've stated some possible scenarios above.
Grace Kelly had to give up a career 10000 times greater than anything Meghan has ever had simply because her future job was being a Princess of Monaco and being a film star was incompatible with that.
^^ I agree, Meghan would have to give up acting. She is only his girlfriend and look how immature the press have behaved already reporting some of the roles or scenes Meghan has acted in, with so many rubbish 'look away Harry' headlines. IMO, Meghan seems like she is ready to move on from acting anyway. In the more recent years, she has expanded her activism and charity work and can develop these areas further.
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Quote from: Tiddles88 on March 12, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
^ I see. Well, in that case, assuming they get married:
- I think they will buy a house in the US, but not spend very much time there.
- Meghan will have to give up acting.
- The kids will call her mama (which I believe is what William and Harry called Diana when they were very little)
- Meghan will take elocution lessons and her accent will gradually become mid-atlantic, then tend towards RP, but still with an American flavour.
Personally, I hope they don't get married, because Meghan seems to be a really bad fit with the BRF (she's not bland and boring like Kate) and I honestly think she can do better in every way than Harry.
Why must a royal wife be "bland"? There were very vivacious women who married into the royal family including Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and Princess Marina for instance. I don't see her as a bad fit if she and Harry are in love and want to get married. I think she will adapt well.
I think blandness is preferred now because the monarchy is on shaky ground. Who knows what will happen once HM has passed? A fair amount of people are pushing for a republic. And a prince or princess who divides public opinion is a potential danger. Kate is as bland and inoffensive as unflavoured rice (now, if only she'd pull her socks up and do some work...), but Meghan, now she is just so very different. An actress, which is not a respectable profession for the old guard monarchists; American, which is not the most popular nationality in the world (it's not personal, rather a result of US foreign policy); working class (clutch your pearls, ladies, but sadly class matters in the UK); part of celebrity culture ( :unsure:)... She's like a firework on a dark night to Kate's daisy flower*.
*Daisies = Pretty, inoffensive, but utterly forgettable
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@Yale - presumably, if they're already at the "designing an engagement ring" stage, she probably knows and has maybe even had a hand in the design. I'd love it if they used emeralds - I have a bee in my bonnet about how good emeralds would look on Meghan.
They already let Camilla in. And would look like darn fools if they did not let an "actress in." Ronald Reagan was a Hollywood actor and became President. So acting should be no obstacle
Like no way this woman is cut to be a Royal ... no way ... Kate is a British girl who fought 11 years for the Tiara and we all know is facing difficulties and runs to mommy every chance she gets ... Megan wouldn't survive 1 Month in that environment ...
Quote from: Curryong on March 12, 2017, 10:57:48 PM
From what I know of the BRF I would think that Meghan would almost certainly be required to become a British citizen. Harry will never get to the throne but he is still a senior Royal and a King's son when Charles succeeds. I don't think TPTB would allow a foreign national to marry in at that level without her at least having dual citizenship. It would be bad PR, and when on tour the formula is always that the Royal has been asked to go on behalf of HM Government. The British Foreign/Commonwealth Office can't direct foreigners to act on their behalf, even Harry's wife.
I would be absolutely astounded if Meghan were to be allowed to keep acting. It would be unprecedented and I don't believe it would be allowed for all sorts of reasons. I also don't think that any property would be bought by Harry/Meghan either in California or in the US in general.
Harry is wealthy but not that wealthy. The BRF has investment property all over the world including North America, in the shape of apartments mostly, and one of these could be used. However, members of the family never have any trouble getting people to lend them property when they want to visit a locale for a while and that is probably what would happen here. Meghan might keep her Toronto pad as well.
The trouble with any senior Royal spending huge lengths of time abroad is security expenses. Harry's time in Africa with RPOs could be explained away by his doing conservation work. Holidays in LA catching up with Meghan's mother couldn't be justified in the same way. British media and government would soon start complaining about security expenses and time spent holidaying away from the UK. If Rania went to England to visit her daughter and stay with the couple that wouldn't draw the same objections and would be considered OK.
No member of the BRF can afford to ignore the British media for long.
A case in point is the rate of engagements this year in comparison to last year. The fact that the Cambridges and Harry have already performed a lot of engagements this year is partly because the Queen and PP are now very elderly and they are now stepping up to the plate. However, I also believe that a lot more have been pencilled in because of a sustained Press campaign last year about the Cambridges in particular not working enough, and Harry taking time off in Africa also came in for criticism.
The point is that Harry certainly won't take advice from the British public and Press as to who he is to marry.
However, the rest of his life is pretty well circumscribed and restricted. The BRF is a juggernaut as well as a gilded cage and members have to fit in and behave in a certain way or be crushed, as Diana and Fergie found to their cost. Members certainly can't do what they want, go swanning off to wherever they want when they want. Meghan will have to conform or she will be out, it will be as simple as that. It's just the way the family operates.
My information tells me that Meghan would be given British citizenship automatically upon marriage to Harry but she would be allowed to retain her US citizenship and I got that from the British Embassy and a friend who is a Brit.
^ Yes, third line down in my post I said 'without her at least having dual citizenship'. There may be some controversy over such a thing being fast-tracked over thousands of other applications for citizenship, but Meghan would certainly have to have British citizenship in order to play a part in overseas tours etc.
QuoteNow suppose you're wrong and she doesn't have to stop acting 100%? Have you ever thought about that? Harry is no longer 2nd and 3rd in line for the throne. Harry himself doesn't want to be a full time royal. And I sick of reading that she'll have to conform to stuff as if she has to stop being an American, who she is and loose herself in the process. No!
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@Curryong. If he proposes and she accepts then her acting career will come to an end.
Harry will very likely become a full time royal when his father ascends to the throne or as his grandmother's cousins begin to cut back on their engagements. When Charles becomes king his aunt and uncles will probably be scaling back on their activities.
Harry and spouse will be needed to support the King/Queen and the Prince/Princess of Wales until George and Charlotte are finished with their education and reach adulthood.
Meghan could always retain part of her American heritage. There is nothing to stop her and her family from celebrating Thanksgiving in November or even Independence Day. She can introduce her children to American literature, history, traditions and more. The Kent family certainly knows about its Greek heritage brought to the UK by Princess Marina.
^ Let's not jump the shark here ... he has only been dating her for a couple of Months and can't bare her presence for more than three Days ... if he has children it won't be by Megan ...
I would not make that definite statement. It's your opinion.How do you know how he feels about her?
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^ Let's not jump the shark here ... he has only been dating her for a couple of Months and can't bare her presence for more than three Days ... if he has children it won't be by Megan ...
@Eri Harry has been dating her for almost a year! Give it a rest please! Everybody gets that you don't like her!! And I not even going to bother to address the other two comments because you don't have a clue! So, it pointless.
^ I don't know about 'a couple of months,' considering that the KP statement about the romance came out in early November last year and in it Harry stated that they had been dating for 'several months'. Most observers believe they started dating in May/June 2016, which makes the dating period considerably longer than two months however you cut it.
Quote from: sandy on March 14, 2017, 12:28:39 AM
I would not make that definite statement. It's your opinion.How do you know how he feels about her?
You are a lot nicer than I. Thank you.
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^ Let's not jump the shark here ... he has only been dating her for a couple of Months and can't bare her presence for more than three Days ... if he has children it won't be by Megan ...
@Eri Harry has been dating her for almost a year! Give it a rest please! Everybody gets that you don't like her!! And I not even going to bother to address the other two comments because you don't have a clue! So, it pointless.
A Year ago she was still with the cook so careful there ... seems to me we are both speculating and expressing our opinion on things we know nothing about which is what we are here to do ... history will tell who is right ...
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^ Let's not jump the shark here ... he has only been dating her for a couple of Months and can't bare her presence for more than three Days ... if he has children it won't be by Megan ...
@Eri Harry has been dating her for almost a year! Give it a rest please! Everybody gets that you don't like her!! And I not even going to bother to address the other two comments because you don't have a clue! So, it pointless.
A Year ago she was still with the cook so careful there ... seems to me we are both speculating and expressing our opinion on things we know nothing about which is what we are here to do ... history will tell who is right ...
This coming from someone who said this relationship would be over in December 2016. It's now the middle of March. I understand that he took to his best friend's wedding and just a few days ago were caught making out in Jamiaca and she has stayed with in at KP for a little over two months. How does that constitute your so called 3 day comment?
^^ Yes, except that it has been clearly more than two months since Harry and Meghan started seeing each other. That would mean a January start to the romance, and considering photos and the statement were published in November and December, estimating a mere two months of dating is wildly inaccurate.
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^ Yes, except that it has been clearly more than two months since Harry and Meghan started seeing each other. That would mean a January start to the romance, and considering photos and the statement were published in November and December, two months of dating is wildly inaccurate.
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^ Let's not jump the shark here ... he has only been dating her for a couple of Months and can't bare her presence for more than three Days ... if he has children it won't be by Megan ...
@Eri Harry has been dating her for almost a year! Give it a rest please! Everybody gets that you don't like her!! And I not even going to bother to address the other two comments because you don't have a clue! So, it pointless.
A Year ago she was still with the cook so careful there ... seems to me we are both speculating and expressing our opinion on things we know nothing about which is what we are here to do ... history will tell who is right ...
This coming from someone who said this relationship would be over in December 2016. It's now the middle of March. I understand that he took to his best friend's wedding and just a few days ago were caught making out in Jamiaca and she has stayed with in at KP for a little over two months. How does that constitute your so called 3 day comment?
They spend like three Days together in one of which Prince Dim was photographed with his friends and she was no where to be found ... she was send back on her merry way in Toronto ... Harry looking happy to be a free agent ...
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^new pics from Jamaica
Great! New photos that an Italian? magazine has acquired. Lovely to see, I wonder whether there are more photos inside? :blowkiss:
more intimate photos on balcony haven't emerged yet but these photos are great. Emily Andrews confirmed she saw them. They make a great couple.
She is always all over him ... acting desperate because Prince Dim is still to ask her to spend more than 5 Days together ... he seems so bored ...
Quote from: Eri on March 15, 2017, 01:26:00 AM
She is always all over him ... acting desperate because Prince Dim is still to ask her to spend more than 5 Days together ... he seems so bored ...
Correction, you WISH he were bored!
@Eri Why don't you write to Harry at KP and tell him how you feel and that Meghan is not a good fit for the BRF and see how far you get?
Very bad photoshopping of two beach pics...
Quote from: SueElen on March 15, 2017, 07:28:03 AM
Very bad photoshopping of two beach pics...
Yes, I noted that the two main Tumblr queens, self-appointed, have been spreading that poison all over the Internet. What are they going to do and say when MM and Harry announce their engagement, as they probably will later this year?
It was probably the worst, most bitter day of their lives online probably, when, after stating that they had broken up in December and kept repeating it constantly, the photos of Harry and Meghan at Skip's wedding popped up.
I'm really looking forward to taking a look on their sites actually when the engagement's announced. Perhaps they'll have a go at 'Kensington Palace is lying. It's all a set up. They're not really engaged!'
And the extremely silly little anons who go on their sites and others and believe their BS will believe that too! Pathetic!
^ What? Why would I write to KP when I can enjoy Harry's downfall popcorn in hand? This will end either way and it will end in tears ... Prince Dim is finished... it couldn't happen to a better idiot ...
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^ new pics
Wow, Wow Wow. Thanks for these further photos. Gorgeous! :cloud9:
If those were the "hot" pictures we were promised it's quite sad ... here I thought the relationship was all about sex ... no wonder she was send on her merry way to Toronto after three Days ...
Oh, these aren't the steamy balcony ones some journos and others have seen. They'll probably go for big bucks. However, these are very, very nice. Yes, he really looks as if he hates her! :hehe:
^ I would say something worse ... he looks bored to death ... she is really working to prove everything is OK to the paps in those pictures ...
What do know, the photos exist! But they are not what they were advertised as; Harry actually manages to look bored in the water with a gorgeous girl in a bikini in his arms...What the hell is wrong with him??
All I want is one, just one photo, of him smiling at her.
^ A man gets bored with an easy conquest he can't shake off ... he is already thinking of the next one ... whoever hopes those two will survive 2017 is in for a disappointment ...
^ Yeah, the Jamaica photos make it sort of clear that he's just not that keen. Even the "hot and steamy" ones... Even if he was stressed out by the paps, you'd think he'd forget himself for one moment and smile at her, right?
Not sure what I make of the new photos. The one where MM is kissing him is strange. She grabs his face and his hands are dangling straight down. Not a good sign, but maybe he's in groomsman mode and not affectionate. In the rest of the photos on the beach, it is hard to say. Doesn't look like he is in love, but doesn't look completely bored either. Just don't know. Time will tell. By the way, IF and only IF they do marry, MM will have to apply to Congress to keep her title as an American citizen. That is how our Constitution is written. Her kids can be U.S. citizens as long as she spends enough time in the U.S. This applies to citizens living abroad.
Which beautiful photos! :P :P I had not seen it yet. Harry hugging Meghan, saying something warm in his ear .... I loved it !! Meghan has a beautiful body! :hug:
Is the hat Meghan was wearing a hat that belongs to Prince Harry?s
^ I believe Meghan was pictured wearing that white fedora we see in the Jamaican beach photos in 2014, LF. It's just a coincidence she and Harry have the same headwear!
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Very bad photoshopping of two beach pics...
Yes, I noted that the two main Tumblr queens, self-appointed, have been spreading that poison all over the Internet. What are they going to do and say when MM and Harry announce their engagement, as they probably will later this year?
It was probably the worst, most bitter day of their lives online probably, when, after stating that they had broken up in December and kept repeating it constantly, the photos of Harry and Meghan at Skip's wedding popped up.
I'm really looking forward to taking a look on their sites actually when the engagement's announced. Perhaps they'll have a go at 'Kensington Palace is lying. It's all a set up. They're not really engaged!'
And the extremely silly little anons who go on their sites and others and believe their BS will believe that too! Pathetic!
They'll probably remain their same selves. You know, "they broke up in December, he sent her packing. She's desperate. Everything is photoshopped. The sun hats are exactly the same as the wool beanies, the bikini and swim trunks look exactly like the shirt and jeans they had on in December, when they broke up. LOL!!
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Not sure what I make of the new photos. The one where MM is kissing him is strange. She grabs his face and his hands are dangling straight down. Not a good sign, but maybe he's in groomsman mode and not affectionate. In the rest of the photos on the beach, it is hard to say. Doesn't look like he is in love, but doesn't look completely bored either. Just don't know. Time will tell. By the way, IF and only IF they do marry, MM will have to apply to Congress to keep her title as an American citizen. That is how our Constitution is written. Her kids can be U.S. citizens as long as she spends enough time in the U.S. This applies to citizens living abroad.
How does one look "in love"? It's a photograph and a moment in time. Maybe if they break up, SHE will be the one to do it.
^ Exactly! Thank God I'm not famous as several old photos with my fiancé before our marriage show one or both of us in serious mood. I always laugh at one, as it looks as if I'm snarling at the poor bloke. In fact I have a mouthful of food! In another he's looking away as I'm smiling at him. In reality he was looking at something amusing that was happening. No couple, even couples in love, hold hands and cuddle and kiss all the time when in public, after the age of about twenty!
People who don't like Meghan for whatever reason are twisting themselves into pretzel shapes trying to convince themselves and others that this isn't a 'real' romance. Harry is being 'forced' to be polite to her, he is being blackmailed, lol, they have a 'contract' ha ha.
He's not really into her is the general consensus among the nay sayers. Why is she there in Jamaica as his plus one then? Oh yes, she invited herself and he and his friends didn't want her. That looks true from the photo on the beach with Skip and Tom :hehe:
Until the Jamaican photos turned up he'd broken up with her in December, according to the Twitter queens and their believers. Now he obviously hasn't, the above theories were manufactured.
The photos we've seen aren't steamy enough and Harry looks 'uncomfortable'. If there are balcony pictures of them kissing (and I believe there are, many people have seen them) then that theory too will be exploded.
When did we ever see huge amounts of PDA from pre marriage Kate and William? If photographic evidence is to be relied on, one hazy photo taken after the 2007 split, I believe. Yet the Cambridges have been married for almost six years and have two children.
Yet Harry is supposed to behave like a performing monkey in order to silence doubters! It appears to me that only if a photo of Harry and Meghan kissing and cuddling in bed appears on social media followed by an engagement announcement from KP will some be satisfied!
^ Absolutely right! If they ever broke up Meghan would be the one doing it.Harry knows he has the Prize.
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Not sure what I make of the new photos. The one where MM is kissing him is strange. She grabs his face and his hands are dangling straight down. Not a good sign, but maybe he's in groomsman mode and not affectionate. In the rest of the photos on the beach, it is hard to say. Doesn't look like he is in love, but doesn't look completely bored either. Just don't know. Time will tell. By the way, IF and only IF they do marry, MM will have to apply to Congress to keep her title as an American citizen. That is how our Constitution is written. Her kids can be U.S. citizens as long as she spends enough time in the U.S. This applies to citizens living abroad.
How does one look "in love"? It's a photograph and a moment in time. Maybe if they break up, SHE will be the one to do it.
Coming from you this is rich ... the same person who decided he hated Cressida someone he has spend more time then he will ever do with Megan ... before writing a comment just remember your old comments ...
For the about the 1000th time, Eri, I never said he hated Cressida. Do you think he did, you are the one who keeps saying it not me? Before you keep repeating yourself go look at my posts and see if I ever said he "hated" Cressida. You are the one who did it. Cressida and Harry are history so why do you keep dredging it up. Before you write a comment, think carefully and remember what I did not say. I said he looked indifferent to her and uncomfortable. That does not mean he hated her. I will just repeat this comment again if you keep repeating what you think I said.
Quote6 reasons why Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are perfect for each other
With their charitable ventures, their sense of fun and their dreams of starting a family, it's easy to see why Prince Harry and his girlfriend Meghan Markle are the perfect match. The British royal and the American actress are well suited to be the next couple up the royal aisle. At the wedding of Harry's friend in Jamaica, the pastor turned to the Prince and said: "It's your turn next, sir." And royal experts agree the time could finally be right for the world's most eligible bachelor to settle down. Here are six reasons why Harry and Meghan would make the perfect royal partnership...
Life in the spotlight
Harry's previous serious girlfriends, lawyer Chelsy Davy and actress Cressida Bonas, didn't enjoy being under constant public scrutiny, but Meghan appears far more relaxed on this issue. Hilda Burke, integrative psychotherapist, couples counsellor and life coach, said: "I imagine Meghan has better coping skills than someone who is just thrown into the spotlight. But she and Harry probably have to screen out what other people are saying and predicting for them. If you get caught in anyone else's opinion of your relationship, whether it's the mums at the school gate or the international media, I think you've lost your focus." Royal biographer Penny Junor added: "For someone who isn't used to being in the spotlight, suddenly having the attention of the world's press is terrifying. It's a huge plus that Meghan is used to that – it really makes a different. She's pretty chilled about it all."
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Quote from: sandy on March 16, 2017, 12:19:31 PM
For the about the 1000th time, Eri, I never said he hated Cressida. Do you think he did, you are the one who keeps saying it not me? Before you keep repeating yourself go look at my posts and see if I ever said he "hated" Cressida. You are the one who did it. Cressida and Harry are history so why do you keep dredging it up. Before you write a comment, think carefully and remember what I did not say. I said he looked indifferent to her and uncomfortable. That does not mean he hated her. I will just repeat this comment again if you keep repeating what you think I said.
Your exact words were "how does one look in love" ? Yet you decided he didn't look in love with Cressida but looks interested in Megan ... I will ask you a question ... how does one look "indifferent"? And how in the hell can you be indifferent to someone you dated for nearly three Years?
Eri not being in love does not necessarily mean "hate." Such extremes do not exist. Cressida and Harry are over again what's the point of dredging this up. I have my point of view you have yours. I think Chelsy and Harry looked interested in each other but they are still over with a capital O. Interest may not last. If people are tired of each other after three weeks they don't have to get married. And have the freedom to break up. Cressida and Harry were not engaged nor under any obligation, they were free to break up and they went that route. People can stop dating after a week or ten years. It all depends. How in hell do you know you cannot be indifferent to someone you dated for nearly three years? You'd have to survey the planet to find that out. For someone who was supposed to be happy, Cressida would glare at Harry at times so obviously the magic can leave a relationship. So it's possible for Harry to get tired of Meghan but not possible for him to be tired of Cressida? How do you know he's indifferent to Meghan?
^ This is NOT about Cressida Bonas as she has MOVED ON with a younger , richer and more attractive man that will provide her with all the luxuries and privacy ... Cressida DOGGED A BULLET ... what you fail to understand is that my issue with the people who claimed he didn't look in love with a woman he spend three Years with but have decided a woman he is acting the same way with is the love of his life not with what happened with Cressida ... and this is not just you ... it blows my mind the same people who named called Cressida for being interested in arts are loving an actress with an Instagram account ... that is hypocrisy at it's finest ... what a 23 years old endured at the hands of women who could have been her mother for no reason at all is horrible and yet they act like 35 years old Megan is some snowflake to be protected ... that is my real problem and I hope we have understood each other once and for all ...
I just spotted my first "Meghan having Harry's baby" headline on the "Star" magazine. It was only a matter of time.
(No I don't think that this tabloid is telling the truth.) :wink:
^ Oh I wouldn't put it past her ... she will obviously try any trick in the book to keep this charade going ... it might be one of the reasons he spends as little time as possible with her ... maybe not so dim after all ...
^ I think the Windsor boys/ men know how to wrap it, otherwise we'd be seeing royal bastards in the news weekly.
^
They will have babies, but at the right time and will be beautiful children! :nod: :nod: :) :blowkiss:
Sandy, People can look in love in photographs. It is the way they gaze at each other, or smile at each other or hold each other tight. I'm not good at putting up photos on these sights like others are, but I remember seeing one or two photos of Kate and William on vacation looking at each other laughing while walking arm in arm. These were just before they got engaged. I think they were on Mustique. They looked happy together in those photos. I don't know how they are now as a married couple. But in terms of PH and MM, they have not been photographed looking at each other adoringly that I have seen. Of course, all these photos are just one moment in time. Yet I haven't seen a moment where I would say these two look in love. Doesn't mean it isn't so or is so. Just that I haven't seen anything of that between them. I see a couple hanging out and a lot of MM grabbing PH in Jamaica. I did see photos of PH and CD looking very enthralled with each other. Of course they were young. I didn't pay attention to Cressy. I only am paying attention to this because I also was born and raised in Los Angeles attending private girls schools, and have English relatives I visit from time to time. So this is interesting to me that a Royal is actually dating an American after the whole Wallis Simpson incident. I still don't see them getting married and lasting. I just don't see how MM could deal with the Royals permanently. I know Grace Kelly had regrets. It does seem to me that on this sight many people really dislike MM and many are working on her PR team. Like I said before, Harry needs to grow up more before he settles down. He's getting there. And MM... she is going to do great no matter what. Dating a Prince can only help her career if she doesn't end up with him. If they do break up, she will be pursued by many I predict.
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I meant sites not sights.
^ Personally I don't pay much attention to how people look in pictures ... there is more than gazing adoringly into each others eyes to a relationship or he and Chelsy would have lasted ... he looking very bored with Megan in the Jamaica pictures where he was supposed to be on vacation with the woman he so desperately wants to marry according to some can't be ignored though ...
^For someone who doesn't pay attention as to how people look in pictures Eri you certainly have made your opinions known as to lack of pictures or how you perceive they way they look at each other.
Quote from: lk1957 on March 16, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
Sandy, People can look in love in photographs. It is the way they gaze at each other, or smile at each other or hold each other tight. I'm not good at putting up photos on these sights like others are, but I remember seeing one or two photos of Kate and William on vacation looking at each other laughing while walking arm in arm. These were just before they got engaged. I think they were on Mustique. They looked happy together in those photos. I don't know how they are now as a married couple. But in terms of PH and MM, they have not been photographed looking at each other adoringly that I have seen. Of course, all these photos are just one moment in time. Yet I haven't seen a moment where I would say these two look in love. Doesn't mean it isn't so or is so. Just that I haven't seen anything of that between them. I see a couple hanging out and a lot of MM grabbing PH in Jamaica. I did see photos of PH and CD looking very enthralled with each other. Of course they were young. I didn't pay attention to Cressy. I only am paying attention to this because I also was born and raised in Los Angeles attending private girls schools, and have English relatives I visit from time to time. So this is interesting to me that a Royal is actually dating an American after the whole Wallis Simpson incident. I still don't see them getting married and lasting. I just don't see how MM could deal with the Royals permanently. I know Grace Kelly had regrets. It does seem to me that on this sight many people really dislike MM and many are working on her PR team. Like I said before, Harry needs to grow up more before he settles down. He's getting there. And MM... she is going to do great no matter what. Dating a Prince can only help her career if she doesn't end up with him. If they do break up, she will be pursued by many I predict.
Double post auto-merged: March 16, 2017, 09:15:22 PM
I meant sites not sights.
Harry looked adoringly at Chelsy many times. ANd she looked adoringly at him.But they broke up. So "looks of love" do not guarantee an engagement.
A divorcee and other woman in Charles' first marriage got into the family. IF MEghan and Harry want to marry I doubt the royals would not want themselves to look like hypocrites and agree to a marriage.
Brad Pitt and Angelina had many looks of love but they got a divorce.
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Quote from: Eri on March 16, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
^ This is NOT about Cressida Bonas as she has MOVED ON with a younger , richer and more attractive man that will provide her with all the luxuries and privacy ... Cressida DOGGED A BULLET ... what you fail to understand is that my issue with the people who claimed he didn't look in love with a woman he spend three Years with but have decided a woman he is acting the same way with is the love of his life not with what happened with Cressida ... and this is not just you ... it blows my mind the same people who named called Cressida for being interested in arts are loving an actress with an Instagram account ... that is hypocrisy at it's finest ... what a 23 years old endured at the hands of women who could have been her mother for no reason at all is horrible and yet they act like 35 years old Megan is some snowflake to be protected ... that is my real problem and I hope we have understood each other once and for all ...
So just why did you bring Cressida into the thread? If she moved on. It's about Harry and MEghan now
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Quote from: Eri on March 16, 2017, 03:34:28 PM
^ Oh I wouldn't put it past her ... she will obviously try any trick in the book to keep this charade going ... it might be one of the reasons he spends as little time as possible with her ... maybe not so dim after all ...
If he did not want to be with her why did he attend that wedding with her? He could have split up with her at any time if he were did not want her around. You make her sound like Erica Kane in the soaps.
QuoteIf he did not want to be with her why did he attend that wedding with her? He could have split up with her at any time if he were did not want her around. You make her sound like Erica Kane in the soaps.
:goodpost: Best comment on this thread!!!
^ In your opinion of course
@TLLK. I could find many other "best" comments.
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