The Family and Ancestors of the Duke of Edinburgh

Cory · June 23, 2005, 04:11:56 PM

I heard Princess Alice of Greece loved her granson very much.Was she little bit strange? They say she was an orthodox nun with very particular ideas...

Windsor · June 23, 2005, 04:40:42 PM

In January 1949, the Princess Alice founded an order of Greek Orthodox nuns, the Christian Sisterhood of Martha and Mary, on the Greek island of Trinos

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tipper57 · June 29, 2005, 03:53:56 AM

Princess Alice was the granddaughter of Princess Alice Windsor, 3rd daughter of Queen Victoria, her mother was Princess Victoria of Prussia, so her great- grandmum was Queen Victoria- she was a real Princess, let's not forget it-

Tiara · July 18, 2005, 06:05:23 PM

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Princess Alice of Greece (Mother of Duke of Edinburgh) with her grandchildren, Prince Charles and Princess Anne after they welcomed her on their arrival to Athens Airport to attend the wedding of King Constantine of Greece and Princess Anne-Marie of Denmark on the 18th September 1964. 16th September 1964

LouisFerdinand · December 30, 2015, 11:17:11 PM

It was informative to learn about two George Mountbattens:
George Louis Victor Henry Serge Mountbatten, 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven and his grandson, George Ivar Louis Mountbatten, 4th Marquess of Milford Haven.

Curryong · December 30, 2015, 11:56:18 PM

Yes, George the 2nd Marquess Milford Haven (he of the exotic wife and extensive porno collection) was Philip's favourite uncle on the British side of the family. Because he died so prematurely some myth seemed to grow after Philip joined the BRF that Lord Louis Mountbatten was Philip's surrogate father in his youth. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

LouisFerdinand · November 02, 2016, 11:08:32 PM

The Mountbattens: Five generations
The Mountbattens - 5 Generations - YouTube

LouisFerdinand · August 13, 2018, 12:57:17 AM

Princess Alice wither her spouse Prince Andrew in Athens, Greece in 1921.
Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark*20.01.1882-+with his wife... News Photo | Getty Images

Princess Cassandra · January 27, 2019, 04:33:23 AM

I read that Princess Alice grew quite close to her Mountbatten-Windsor grandchildren, especially Princess Anne, while she was living her final years with the Royal Family in Buckingham Palace. Of course she had other grandchildren, too, but I did not read anything about her relationship with them.

Curryong · January 27, 2019, 05:23:48 AM

I think Alice probably was close to Philip's children but I don't think she was probably a conventional granny figure. On one documentary I saw Princess Anne said that you would always know when her grandmother was approaching by the cloud of cigarette smoke that accompanied her wherever she went! (She was quite elderly by then of course, in contrast to the Queen Mother, their other grandmother and had lived a very full and varied life.)

Alice's daughters married at a very young age when she was confined to a mental institution and Andrew had more or less drifted off. Therefore she probably didn't see very much of her grandchildren during the early to mid 1930s. In the bio of Philip it said she was often visiting her daughters in Germany after she was released from the mental institution though.

It said that everyone remarked on how calm Alice was when her daughter Cecile, sil Donatus of Hesse and three little grandchildren were killed in a terrible air crash while on their way to a wedding in 1937. I suppose her religious faith came to the fore a lot when she experienced tragedies in her life.

TLLK · January 27, 2019, 02:41:46 PM

@Curryong-Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge of the various royal families. Good points regarding the relationship between Princess Alice and her older grandchildren. I would imagine that with Princess Alice living at BP towards the end of her life, that Phillip's sisters and their families could quietly go and see her in London after the war.

Princess Cassandra · January 27, 2019, 06:56:27 PM

Quote from: TLLK on January 27, 2019, 02:41:46 PM
@Curryong-Thank you for sharing your incredible knowledge of the various royal families. Good points regarding the relationship between Princess Alice and her older grandchildren. I would imagine that with Princess Alice living at BP towards the end of her life, that Phillip's sisters and their families could quietly go and see her in London after the war.

I hope you are right. When you see pictures of her with her young family, they seemed a happy group. How sad if she couldn't see her remaining children (and their children) in her final years.

Curryong · January 27, 2019, 09:23:17 PM

ThankYou for the nice words, TLLK. I'm sure her children and grandchildren did come privately to see Alice. I know that Philip's surviving sisters and their spouses weren't invited to Philip's wedding because TPTB at BP became incredibly nervous about anti-German feeling in Britain in 1947.

The sisters didn't like this at all and one complained to Dickie Mountbatten that reporters in Germany kept asking whether they were going which made them feel 'humiliated'. Alice tried to make it up to them by writing a 22 page description of the wedding ceremony and telling them that Philip had signed the wedding register with the gold-plated pen the sisters had bought him as a joint wedding present.

They did all go to the Coronation, and Sophie, (whose second husband was Prince George of Hanover) went to stay at Birkhall with Elizabeth and Philip in 1948, and her husband, who was then headmaster at the boarding school founded by Kurt Hahn, Salem which Philip had briefly attended, went with her. I also read that Philip would take his older children Charles and Anne to see his sisters and their families over the years.

One of Philip's sisters was often photographed at the Windsor Horse Show over the years and I did read that Charles said to a friend once that he wanted to invite the 'cousins' to Highgrove but Diana didn't want them. (This was in the early years of the marriage and he was apparently quite sad about it rather than angry.) So really, it looks as though good and quite close relations were maintained between Alice and her daughters and their families to the end but it seems that these were very private visits.

LouisFerdinand · July 23, 2021, 11:07:29 PM

George Louis Victor, the future 2nd Marquis of Milford Haven, had his own workshop at his father's Heiligenberg Castle by the age of ten.

LouisFerdinand · October 04, 2021, 11:22:12 PM

Victoria, Marchioness of Milford-Haven is the maternal grandmother of Prince Philip.
Victoria, Marchioness of Milford-Haven - YouTube

LouisFerdinand · December 03, 2021, 09:05:13 PM

Prince Andrew of Greece (Prince Philip's father) with Grand Duchess Marie of Russia and her daughters Xenia and Nina in July 1916
Prince Andrew of Greece , brother of King Constantine I with Grand... News Photo - Getty Images

LouisFerdinand · January 22, 2022, 11:22:51 PM

Princess Margarita of Greece (1905-1981) is the eldest sister of Prince Philip.

Princess Margarita with her sister Princess Theodora in 1923
( left ) Princess Theodora and Princess Marguerite ( right ) . Daughters of Princess Andrew of Greece 1 July 1923 Stock Photo - Alamy

LouisFerdinand · March 06, 2022, 12:22:05 AM

Princess Theodora, Margravine of Baden wearing the Baden Sunburst Tiara
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LouisFerdinand · March 24, 2022, 07:30:08 PM

In 1900 Prince Philip's grandmother Princess Victoria gave birth to her fourth and last child, another son, Louis. Notably, in a time when her siblings and cousins were giving birth every one to two years, Victoria's children spanned 15 years.

LouisFerdinand · April 25, 2022, 09:46:57 PM

Meet Prince Philip's Parents
Meet Prince Philip's Parents - YouTube

PrincessOfPeace · December 30, 2022, 12:02:46 PM

Prince Philip's nephew and King Charles' first cousin dies aged 89.

Prince Philip?s nephew and King Charles? first cousin dies aged 89

TLLK · December 30, 2022, 01:35:18 PM

A little background on the late Margrave of Baden who passed away on Thursday 12/28/22.

QuoteKing Charles? first cousin Maximillian, Margrave of Baden, passed away in the early hours of Thursday morning at Selem Castle in Germany aged 89.

The House of Baden confirmed that there will be two memorial services held for the nephew of the late Prince William.

One memorial service will see friends and employees invited and the other will be held for family members and political representatives.

He was the son of Philip's older sister, Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark and was the Head of House at Baden since 1963.

Three of DoE's German relatives were present at his funeral in 2021 and later at the memorial in 2022.

PrincessOfPeace · December 30, 2022, 01:39:16 PM

Thanks for moving the article TLLK - I was sure there was a thread for this but couldn't find it lol.

TLLK · December 30, 2022, 01:41:15 PM

@PrincessOfPeace -LOL just spent five minutes trying to remember where it was! This seems like a better place for it.

The new Margrave of Baden is Bernhard who was Phillip's great nephew and is first cousin once removed to Charles, Anne, Andrew, and Edward. He attend the DoE's and QEII's funerals. He and his wife Stephanie live in Linzgau near Schloss Salem with their three sons and is a commercial lawyer by profession.

Bernhard - Wikipedia,_Hereditary_Prince_of_Baden

Here's Bernhard and Stephanie's wedding information which saw a mix of reigning and non-reigning royals.

Wedding of Hereditary Prince Bernhard of Baden, 2001 | The Royal Watcher

Curryong · December 30, 2022, 02:13:18 PM

I have vague recollections of hearing of and reading about Prince Philip taking his two older children on private trips to Germany to stay with his (and their) relatives in the school holidays in the 1950s. It may well have been the Badens they went to see, as Berthold and his wife, Philip?s sister Theodora (Dolla) as she was apparently called within the family, were both then still alive. I know that they also visited the Hanovers (his sister Sophie and her second husband Georg and her family), as well. I suppose that link with ?the German cousins? is frayed a good bit now, as older relatives die off second cousins become third and so on.