A thread to discuss the personal relationships between the members of the British Royal Family Kate Middleton dotes on Prince George and Princess Charlotte during charity polo match (https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2018061049333/kate-middleton-prince-george-charity-polo-match/)
QuoteThe Duchess of Cambridge had a lovely day out with her oldest two children on Sunday when she took Prince George and Princess Charlotte to the Maserati Royal Charity Polo Trophy at Beaufort Polo Club in Gloucestershire to support Prince William, who was participating in the game. Photos published on Daily Mail show Kate wrapping her arm around George, who is dressed in a navy polo shirt and a pair of beige shorts. Kate, meanwhile, looks stylish in a light blue summer dress with a flared skirt, from one of her favourite high street shops, Zara. The doting mum was there to keep an eye on her son, as well as his young cousins Savannah and Isla Phillips ? who were also in attendance. In another photo, Kate is seen sitting on the floor with George, Charlotte and Savannah - who has her arm wrapped around the little Princess.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfVqcDxX4AAK-OQ.jpg
William and Harry typically participate in a series of charity polo matches through the summer to raise money for their charities.
Prince William kicks off series of charity polo matches he will take part in with Prince Harry ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/prince-william-kicks-off-series-of-charity-polo-matches-he-will-take-part-in-with-prince-harry-103529)
Prince George plays with toy gun as he joins Kate and Charlotte for day at the polo | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/972245/prince-george-pictures-toy-gun-kate-middleton-princess-charlotte-news)
Prince William takes part in the Maserati Royal Charity Polo Trophy | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5826681/Prince-William-takes-Maserati-Royal-Charity-Polo-Trophy.html)
Today's matches are raising funds for Centrepoint and the Royal Marsden.
Prince George and Princess Charlotte come out to watch Duke compete in polo tournament (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/10/george-charlotte-come-play-polo/)
Princess Charlotte Goofs Off While Prince William Plays Polo | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-william-polo-match-princess-charlotte-goofs-off/)
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Kate echoes the moment Princess Diana took part in a sports day race | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5827415/Kate-echoes-moment-Princess-Diana-took-sports-day-race.html)
Like mother in law!!
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Duchess Catherine, George and Charlotte at Beaufort Park | Newmyroyals & Hollywood Fashion (http://www.newmyroyals.com/2018/06/duchess-catherine-george-and-charlotte.html)
Catherine,George and Charlotte supported Prince William as he participated in the Maserati Royal Charity Polo Trophy (https://www.therealmyroyals.com/catherine-george-and-charlotte-supported-prince-william-as-he-participated-in-the-maserati-royal-charity-polo-trophy-at-the-beaufort-polo-club-in-tetbury/)
Their once a year polo pictures ;) Kate used to go to every polo match pre royal.
But as it seems after marriage, the press go bananas...front page news, the pattern has changed to one polo match only. She and children look very nice.
Kate Middleton lost her baby weight in just SEVEN weeks | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5828941/Duchess-Cambridge-lost-baby-weight-just-SEVEN-weeks.html)
She got quickly lost baby weight after Louis born no problems respect Kate seven weeks is so amazing she can do it!!
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The real reason for Kate Middleton's polo dash | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5829343/The-REAL-reason-Kates-polo-dash.html)
Duchess Kate, Charlotte, George Goof Off at Prince William?s Polo Match (https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/duchess-kate-charlotte-george-goof-off-at-prince-williams-polo-match/)
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E! News on Twitter: "Prince George and Princess Charlotte had the time of their lives at Prince William?s polo match on Sunday.? " (https://twitter.com/enews/status/1006247645499875328?s=21)
^ The DM KM polo dash...the Harry and William friend, big ears a la Charles et all, but he's good looking.
I'd jump the mini hill and run for (Kate) and do the hug and 'air' kisses.
Prince George, Princess Charlotte cheer on Prince William at polo match | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/royals-off-duty-princess-kate-takes-prince-george-55803226)
Savannah Phillips pushed Prince George down a hill at polo | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5838841/Savannah-Phillips-pushed-Prince-George-hill-polo.html)
That is one vivacious child. She was quite something at the balcony appearance. :hehe:
The Royal Marsden which benefited from the Polo Match, Prince William will be hosting tomorrow a Reception at Buckingham Palace
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The Duke of Cambridge, President of @royalmarsdenNHS, will attend a reception for the The Royal Marsden Trust at Buckingham Palace on Thursday 14th June.
Savannah Phillips pushes Prince George down a hill: VIDEO (https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2018061349432/savannah-phillips-pushes-prince-george-down-hill/)
Ohhhhhhh Savanah , Ohhhhhhh Don't you cry for me. I 'll be from round the hill with a scar on my knee.
To my fellow Americans here...Oh Susana song.
SavanahP. BuckBal was funny. kids being kids. Autumn did discipline her child here for the push and I am sure when she got home, no cookies...no tv...off to bed. I am sure next time before an outing, she will bribe her with a good dessert if she stays away from George and keeps hands to herself.
Kids are kids.
BUT when they are a group like this of QEIIs greatgrand children and cameras are recording every minute, it is different.
Bully, no. Overly playful and not knowing her strength, yes. She is 7 and he is 4.
Also, Charlotte feel back but her mom was right behind her. George got consoled. Was it because of the hill roll? I do not know.
Some parents coddle their kids for sneezing. Kate, hmm, helicopter parent...No. She seems to let them be and get dirty and fall, tumble and things at the polo matches.
Ohhhhh Savanah Ohhhhhhhh Don't you cry for me. Ill be comingggg from the hill with a scar on my knee.
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song oh susanna don't you cry for me - Bing video (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=song+oh+susanna+don%27t+you+cry+for+me&view=detail&mid=A373937FDDB1E0367271A373937FDDB1E0367271&FORM=VIRE)
I don't quite see how bribing a child is good parenting.. even if most parents do it sometimes..
QuoteI am sure next time before an outing, she will bribe her with a good dessert if she stays away from George and keeps hands to herself.
Kids are kids.
Not sure that bribing Savannah is a good idea. IMO it would be better to explain what the behavior expectations are and what the consequences will be if she doesn't behave in a safe, responsible and respectable manner with any other child (royal or not) Compliment her if she does follow the directions given to her prior to the outing.
No, I think Savannah needs a bit of firm parenting..
^^^And explaining the expectations and the consequences prior to an outing is part of firm parenting. Of course then you have to follow through on the consequences. :D
yes instead of going "Oh kids are just beingkids"
Setting aside Savannah's bullish behavior, that kid who kicked the book/paper afterwards also seemed a bit vicious. Maybe George is a sensitive shy child like his grandfather. If that is the case, he really needs to be supported because one day he will have to be the boss.
Bribe perhaps was not the best word. Giving an incentive to behave properly , I think is a good idea depending on the child and offense. An incentive can also be used as a punishment too.
I did say and imply in my post,I bet Autumn punished and talked to and will talk to her daughter before the next outing.
QuoteI bet Autumn punished and talked to and will talk to her daughter before the next outing.
Yes we did see that Autumn immediately turned to her daughter to admonish her in the video. It's all part of a long learning process that has to be repeated now and then.
Quote from: royalanthropologist on June 14, 2018, 12:36:13 PM
Setting aside Savannah's bullish behavior, that kid who kicked the book/paper afterwards also seemed a bit vicious. Maybe George is a sensitive shy child like his grandfather. If that is the case, he really needs to be supported because one day he will have to be the boss.
Charles is decisively not "sensitive." I hope George takes after his maternal grandfather.
But you said that Charles was a loving father. would that not mean that he is sensitive to the needs of his children
Quote from: sandy on June 14, 2018, 11:15:05 PM
Charles is decisively not "sensitive." I hope George takes after his maternal grandfather.
He he. You can't change genes. You will just have to continue "hoping". Some people :wacko:
I believe George gets his shyness from George VI and Queen Mary. While Charles is not a shy man he is sensitive and it seems George has inherited that from him. Savannah seems to have inherited her personality from her grandmother Princess Anne and great-grandfather the DOE while her antics on the balcony were tame her behavior pushing George was not and her mother and father really need to take a firmer hand with her that such behavior will not be tolerated.
I don't believe in stifling children too much so I think that Savannah should be taught a little self-discipline rather than turning her into a robot. I have to say that push seemed malicious and the boy that sent that paper flying was even worse.
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Quote from: sandy on June 15, 2018, 11:01:25 AM
Michael was and is a faithful husband. Grampa Charles wasn't I sure would want George to take after Michael in character. And looks.
How shallow can a person get? Looks indeed. And then talking about a child cheating as if it is some kind of genetic defect. Pathetic :wacko:
QuoteI believe George gets his shyness from George VI and Queen Mary.
Quite possibly the shyness also comes from the Queen, Diana, and his mother Catherine seems to be a rather reserved person at times too.
Is Prince Charles responsible for the unity we see today between the members of his own family? Can we give him credit bringing his sons and wives together in what is a difficult situation? A situation that could have caused many problems in the royal family?
Prince William and Prince Harry are all smiles. Kate and Meghan are all smiles. Is this because of Prince Charles?
The Queen and members of The Royal Family attend Christmas Day Church Service at Sandringham ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-queen-and-members-of-the-royal-family-arrive-at-christmas-day-church-service-at-sandringham-113356)
I must say that I am impressed by the show of unity between these two ladies after weeks of a rumored rift in the tabloids. They are following the Queen's message and showing unity. :xmas17:
The Duchess of Cambridge and Duchess of Sussex arrive at Christmas Church Service together ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/the-duchess-of-cambridge-and-duchess-of-sussex-arrive-at-christmas-church-service-together-113390)
Well, Charles may be a peacemaker. Who knows. Or the whole 'feud' thing may have been a big bunch of hooey in the middle of a Meghan-bashing exercise by the British press. And on the whole, as disputes sell more clicks than peaceful relations, that might well be the explanation. Even if Kate and Meghan are very different and not bosom buddies.
I really think that the Queen was pointing to a divided country post-Brexit vote, and various clashes throughout the world in her speech, not giving coded messages to her two grandsons and their wives. She's never referred EVER to any difficulties within her family circle in her Xmas Day messages since 1953, and I can't see her doing so now.
A nice, not too long clip, showing the royals leaving church today at Sandringham.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cimx9kpTibQ
I think the DM made up the feud. Charles is all about his image and spin. I think the Queen is the family peacemaker Charles IMO is more out for himself.
The rift was imo fake news and manufactured by the DM.
@Curryong :goodpost:
@sandy :goodpost:
@sandy Perhaps, the rift was a fabrication but I do think today's Happy Families display did sent a positive message to the public/tabloids about the brothers and their wives. I really do hope all is well!
Kate and Meghan are all smiles as they join the Queen at church in Sandringham | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6528473/Kate-Meghan-smiles-join-Queen-church-Sandringham.html)
I agree with Sandy I don't believe there is a rift this story was manufactured by the media when it was announced The Queen gifted Frogmore cottage to Harry and Meghan and not a home in Norfolk near William and Kate. Ok they aren't seen together in a lot of joint engagements well Kate was on maternity leave until October and each couple have there own separate duties due to their positions. Kate is no actress and if there was a rift you would have seen it on her face despite a smile.
@Trudie I agree! I think they get along just fine.
Kate and Meghan 'were ordered to call Christmas Day truce by the Queen' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6529309/Kate-Meghan-ordered-call-Christmas-Day-truce-Queen.html)
Order by HM Queen not since Prince Charles and Diana but not good relationship in marriage years when Prince Charles been see Camilla for decades they now Duchess of Cornwall but wont happened in royal history
Meghan Markle and Kate dispel rumour of ongoing RIFT with simple gesture | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1063782/Meghan-Markle-Kate-Middleton-royal-feud-Sandringham-row-Queen-Prince-Charles-latest)
Royal FEUD: Meghan and Kate's Christmas was 'AWKWARD' after Queen told them to end row | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1063733/meghan-markle-news-kate-middleton-the-queen-prince-charles-sandringham-royal-family-news)
Kate puts Meghan Markle rift claims behind her for Christmas church service with William | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1063619/kate-middleton-meghan-markle-prince-william-royal-family-christmas-church-sandringham)
This body language expert concluded that the Duchesses tried too hard to appear united. :hehe:
Body language expert reveals Kate and Meghan used tricks politicians employ to show festive unity | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6530057/Body-language-expert-reveals-Kate-Meghan-used-tricks-politicians-employ-festive-unity.html)
QuoteBoth were born commoners.
With the exceptions of Prince Phillip and Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark, all of the post WWI 20th century and 21st century royal in-laws have been commoners including Lady Elisabeth Bowes-Lyon, Lady Alice Montagu Douglass Scott, and Lady Diana Spencer. :) Technically there are members of the BRF who are commoners ie: Prince Michael of Kent and until their wedding days: Princes Andrew, Edward, William and Harry.
Who is a ?commoner? in Britain? Is everyone who is not a peer a commoner, even if that person is a member of the royal family? Can you be royal and (https://www.quora.com/Who-is-a-commoner-in-Britain-Is-everyone-who-is-not-a-peer-a-commoner-even-if-that-person-is-a-member-of-the-royal-family-Can-you-be-royal-and-also-be-a-commoner)
QuoteI must say that I am impressed by the show of unity between these two ladies after weeks of a rumored rift in the tabloids. They are following the Queen's message and showing unity. :xmas17:
:goodpost: I agree
@Blue Clover. The tabloids "need" a storyline to continue earning clicks and to sell papers/magazines. Of course most human relationships will have their moments of disagreement, but as far as I can tell there is nothing substantial to suggest that there is a "rift."
Quote from: TLLK on December 26, 2018, 06:48:51 PM
With the exceptions of Prince Phillip and Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark, all of the post WWI 20th century and 21st century royal in-laws have been commoners including Lady Elisabeth Bowes-Lyon, Lady Alice Montagu Douglass Scott, and Lady Diana Spencer. :) Technically there are members of the BRF who are commoners ie: Prince Michael of Kent and until their wedding days: Princes Andrew, Edward, William and Harry.
Who is a ?commoner? in Britain? Is everyone who is not a peer a commoner, even if that person is a member of the royal family? Can you be royal and (https://www.quora.com/Who-is-a-commoner-in-Britain-Is-everyone-who-is-not-a-peer-a-commoner-even-if-that-person-is-a-member-of-the-royal-family-Can-you-be-royal-and-also-be-a-commoner)
:goodpost: I agree @Blue Clover. The tabloids "need" a storyline to continue earning clicks and to sell papers/magazines. Of course most human relationships will have their moments of disagreement, but as far as I can tell there is nothing substantial to suggest that there is a "rift."
@TLLK Yes, tabloids need a storyline and a narrative that they can build on for years and years. :goodpost: The storylines actually make the royals and royal life more relevent to regular people. Not all regular people, of course but some who would not be interested otherwise. Sadly, the storylines resemble those of TV soap operas at time.
Given the longevity of the Windsors it could well be twenty five years before William sits on the throne as King and Kate becomes Queen Consort. A great many things can happen in the next twenty or so years. We don't really know whether the monarchy will survive that long, for instance.
QuoteYes, tabloids need a storyline and a narrative that they can build on for years and years. :goodpost: The storylines actually make the royals and royal life more relevent to regular people. Not all regular people, of course but some who would not be interested otherwise. Sadly, the storylines resemble those of TV soap operas at time.
Yes they do. IMO most families have similar "storylines" from time to time, so the various royal families are made a bit more "relatable" when there are happy events or even more story worthy a suggested "tiff."
Consider at the mileage that the Spanish tabloids had with this year's "Easter scandal" between Queens Letizia and Sofiia. :wacko:
@TLLK Yes, regular families have their storylines that are shared and retold over the years. The royal storylines have their happy and sad moments. I'm sure there are people who buy more papers in order to read about the royal tiffs. All of this makes them seem more normal and just like regular people. :nod:
Focusing on a so-called tiff between members of the Spanish royal family last year was a highlight for the tabloids on Easter and probably pulled in many readers who like seeing that they are royal but just like us. :P
Quote from: Curryong on December 27, 2018, 04:45:01 PM
Given the longevity of the Windsors it could well be twenty five years before William sits on the throne as King and Kate becomes Queen Consort. A great many things can happen in the next twenty or so years. We don't really know whether the monarchy will survive that long, for instance.
:goodpost: The truest statement! :friends:
QuoteGiven the longevity of the Windsors it could well be twenty five years before William sits on the throne as King and Kate becomes Queen Consort.
Which will have the British tabloids gushing over "How young" the new monarch/consort (William/Catherine -61) would be when compared to the previous ones (Charles/Camilla-70+) :lol:.
Good old DM. Manufacture a rift using "sources" then manufacturer a reconciliation using the same "sources" then write an article questioning the reality of both the rift and reconciliation. Three stories out of nothing and 8000 plus DM comments. Poor Meghan...an intelligent and accomplished woman having to put up with royal watcher vitriol without ever being given any chance to respond.
Yes, and negative article after negative article since Novermber, daily with scarcely a break. Who knows how long it will go on for, probably years. Why the other members involved, ie Kate and William, haven't issued firm denials of a rift before now, God knows.
It was only a matter of time Curryong. Lets see upon marriage the Queen has gifted many properties to her children not in close proximty to each other no manufactured rifts mentioned at the time. So she gifted William Amner in Norfolk and Harry Frogmore in Windsor and suddenly there's a rift. Are people that gullible or have such empty lives to see the timing exactly at the same time as the announcement of the gift there is a rift? Another hate on Meghan clickbait exercise.
Sandringham in time will be William's, its a private property and giving ALL the private properties to a King (or Queen) the death taxes of the prior is literally wiped out.
Frogmore is only a 'lease'. HM cannot 'gift' a property of the Crown Estate.
Yes, we know William performed a miracle of his own accord by being born first. The leases of some of the Queen's children's property are the result of not being the first born. (Anne's property was purchased for her so she is an exception.)
And guess what, the same will happen to Charlotte and to Louis. If the monarchy lasts by the time it's William's turn. Might be another twenty five years or more, so good luck waiting Willie!
Meghan is only a few months older than Kate who is 37 next month and, according to you, is an old woman then?
And Meghan has friends from her college days and early days in show business. Those college friends may well be godmothers to her coming child.
George, Charlotte and Louis won't be taking up royal duties for another twenty years or more. Harry and Meghan will still be in the public eye. Plus, most of the Royal family aren't direct heirs to the throne. They still manage to lead very enjoyable, happy and fulfilling public lives, without the constraints of being monarch and heir like Charles.
I wouldn't say Anne, the York princesses and the Wessexes are crying into their soup every day because they aren't directly inheriting the throne. And that throne may well be a poisoned chalice for the next monarchs, considering how British views of the monarchy have changed in the last couple of decades.
Meghan has proved that she can survive in the outside world without any royal trappings. I doubt the Windsors can do without their life state benefits and vast trust funds. On that score alone, she is intelligent.
As for the "past", this is a family with all sorts of goodies including interesting phone conversations, rampant cheating, outright cruelty, family dysfunction, terrible "isms" (by the current patriarch no less), Nazi costumes, some drugs etc...(I am beginning to sound like the DM. LOL :hehe:) The Markles seem tame when compared to what the Windsors are capable of doing.
My point is...the hatefest for this girl seems so OTT...just so OTT. Not even a pregnancy will cause people to pause. DM is stirring for the clicks...I get that but there is a real human being behind that with feelings, hopes, fears and expectations. Thankfully, there are still people who are giving her a chance. I hope she survives the onslaught.
QuoteMy point is...the hatefest for this girl seems so OTT...just so OTT. Not even a pregnancy will cause people to pause. DM is stirring for the clicks...I get that but there is a real human being behind that with feelings, hopes, fears and expectations.
It's also rather obvious IMO that some DM commenters don't bother to even read the articles. Some actually boast that their sole purpose is to participate in the commenting. :shrug:
With a guaranteed source of revenue, the tabloids are not going to back down at this point. Sadly it would take a tragedy for them to switch the narrative. The BRF cannot stop the Markles from adding to the narrative either as her family has shown repeatedly that they don't really care about Meghan or anything other than themselves. :no:
The key word in the headline is "rumored." I don't think it is factual and the DM made it up to get clickbait
@royalanthropologist -A tricky balancing act between keeping the mystique in the later 20th and 21st century while staying in tune with the public's interest. Unfortunately the BRF's personal lives: Princess Margaret, the War of the Wales, the Yorks, the Princess Royal's divorce, the death of Diana, Princess of Wales continued to be the headline news for a very long time. All of these events were guaranteed income generators for the tabloids. The advent of social media has taken this to a new audience and IMHO a new low. I'm sorry that Meghan and to some degree Harry are the primary targets now. :(
I sometimes wonder whether the BRF has contributed to their plight or whether it is just the tabloids. The Scandinavians have some interesting scandals involving the king and a mistress (I think her name is actually Camilla) but you never hear anything near the vitriol that we have in the UK.
I think there are also some fans that feel Meghan is not good enough for one of "Diana's boys" so they are taking her through her paces. Hopefully, if they see her in action they will see that she is actually a very good addition to the BRF. Kate can be the "Mary of Teck" type queen and Meghan will be the more accessible face of monarchy. No need to attack one to raise the other. They are both great women in their own ways. Interestingly I think that their personalities match those of their husbands. Harry would be bored by a Kate and William would be overwhelmed by a Meghan.
But that's not what is happening... it seems to me that the fans are attracted by the whole business of the Internet, to form groups supporting one or the other....
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Quote from: TLLK on December 30, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
@royalanthropologist -A tricky balancing act between keeping the mystique in the later 20th and 21st century while staying in tune with the public's interest. Unfortunately the BRF's personal lives: Princess Margaret, the War of the Wales, the Yorks, the Princess Royal's divorce, the death of Diana, Princess of Wales continued to be the headline news for a very long time. All of these events were guaranteed income generators for the tabloids. The advent of social media has taken this to a new audience and IMHO a new low. I'm sorry that Meghan and to some degree Harry are the primary targets now. :(
well perhaps they are but all newcomers to a RF get a certain amount of crticisim, unless they are insanely popular. But instead of the Press promoting a certain amount of stories about inter royal rivalry, just for the heck of it, I think that now it is the public who are acting like there are these rows and differences among the various royals and using this as a basis for attacking the rival couple/royal
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Quote from: sandy on December 30, 2018, 03:26:36 PM
It impacted her work as a senior royal, she carried over low work numbers into the marriage. And even before she had the children.
She and William were not full time royal workers when they married... they are now, but she was not expected to work full time, sicne William was not. They had some private time, when they were able to have their children, and be like a fairly normal couple for a few years.
Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton end feud: Duo 'played Scrabble' after watching Queen's speech | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6539605/Meghan-Markle-Kate-Middleton-end-feud-Duo-played-Scrabble-watching-Queens-speech.html)
So between a friendly game of Scrabble, various Christmas/Boxing Day activities at Sandringham perhaps the tabloids will give us a tiny break on the "rift" until 2019. (Which gives us about one day off from these stories!) :P
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Lol! I hope the rift between the Duchesses vanishes with 2018! :hehe:
Quote from: Blue Clover on December 31, 2018, 10:56:46 PM
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Lol! I hope the rift between the Duchesses vanishes with 2018! :hehe:
Hah, no way. The media in Britain made this up and like a dog with bone, they are not letting go.
Well, DM did move on. I stand corrected.
The latest report is tha it was not Katie, but William who does not like her.
It is just not going to end.
The American shiny tabloids have jumped in. People magazine ran a cover story with the girls as not getting along. InStyle magazine has a cover story out.
I am waiting for Meggie is feuding with QEII Corgis.
Truth, Meghan is going to be under the critical microscope, all of her past dug up, her parents past, and more for a good ten years.
I am REALLY SOOOOO PULLING for her. I really hope she makes it.
I really hope she understands her role and that life.
Ask me if I think they might be divorced in 7 years, 7 year itch?
It is very possible.
The unrelentless negativity.
The rules, confinement, and it is not what Meghsn wants, she gets.
We do not know because she and Harry have never said such foolishness about taking on the world. Changing the world.
Her platform. The media pushed that untruth too and it has stuck.
BRF does not work like this.
She will be given duties such as ribbon cutting, cord pulling to unveil the plaque, walking and staring for ceremonies, etc.
Nothing Earth shaking. Nothing new.
Add the media negative blitz at every turn even for things to do nothing with like an article about Kate, the press is always taking a shit at Meghan.
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Quote from: sandy on December 31, 2018, 11:27:48 PM
She will still be Consort no matter how it is sliced
I got created way back about that Consort thing. It sounds silly because you never hear that title .
Catherine, as it is said has never been called Kate by her family, will be Queen Catherine. That is the informal title.
Queen consort, formally.
Yes, that is about 20 years off, but it will be.
QuoteScrabble and two glasses of wine
Photos or it didn't happen. :lol: Scrabble a good non confrontational game unless a word is challenged. :lol: No other game like Risk or Pandemic. Oh! Well... Was the wine red or white, name and vintage year? :partaay:
Of family board games played in my family when my offspring were young Cluedo was the favourite of the children and Monopoly caused the most rows and accusations of cheating. My husband got really into it! Only one child and myself liked Scrabble. The other two thought it was boring, though occasionally they could be persuaded to play!
Yeah. Clue was/is awesome liked the movie too. Tim Curry! :thumbsup: Always chose to be Ms. Peacock. The good old days. Love a good mystery. :lol:
Quote from: Curryong on January 01, 2019, 05:00:03 AM
Of family board games played in my family when my offspring were young Cluedo was the favourite of the children and Monopoly caused the most rows and accusations of cheating. My husband got really into it! Only one child and myself liked Scrabble. The other two thought it was boring, though occasionally they could be persuaded to play!
I've lost count of how many versions of Monopoly are stashed in the game cupboard. We even have a version that is based on our city! Some of the games would not be finished before their bedtime, so it would continue into the next day.
@FanDianaFancy :goodpost:
Regarding the game-playing between the Duchesses - He doth protest too much! :D
Yes, I said that about individual members of the BRF in my last paragraph of the post. And some royals aren't recognised at all, really. I remember a few Xmases ago on the Sandringham Church walk Edward Wessex said to members of the public waiting there 'You don't know who I am do you?' and chuckled to himself as he sauntered off.
And he probably wasn't recognised by some.
The Middleton name was there in the tabloids for years with Carole M portrayed as the interfering and controlling mother to Kate. So there may be some interest in her in the tabloids. But in James? In all the years of conversations with my relatives and friends in England I can honestly say that no-one has spoken about him, written anything to me about him, discussed any happenings or events in his life or acknowledged him as a person of interest at all. And that is besides the 'survey'!
As for Meghan she is polarising. There are a lot of despisers of her out there in Twitter and Tumblr land beside the cretin commenters online at the DM. There was a fair bit of interest in her in the US (comparatively speaking) from the beginning, with nearly 30 million viewers of the wedding. I would suggest that many of her online supporters are American females who are surprised at the attacks on her in the British media in the first year of her married life in the BRF and were unaware of the savagery of London tabloids before now.
People are intereste in differnet people. I am not greatly interested in the Middletons.. nor most of the younger RF. but to judge by ads I see on TV, there are lots of people out there whom I know nothing about, and my friends know nothing about.... but tehre are people who do follow them. There is an ad I keep seeing about some couple who are having a baby, he sounds "posh", she has an irish souding accent. I've no idea who they are, but there are people who taken an interest. And I do know who James Middleton IS, and I have seen posts about him, in the past about his business and occasionally about girlfriends...
Yes, of course. I would expect everyone who posts in forums connected with the BRF in one form or another to know about James Middleton and the Middleton family. It's the average British punter out there, who in many cases no longer reads a newspaper or magazine (and isn't online a lot on Royal news sites) that I'm referencing. And it is a celebrity based and social media culture now. I'm constantly coming across news on Twitter about people I don't know who are supposedly in the public eye, some of them for a whole five minutes!
Its great that we have an internet community where we all know the Royals and their family members! Everyone who cares or is interested can come here and discuss them.
Quote from: amabel on January 05, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
Don't know why there is interest n the Middleston, but undoubtedly there is... so I don't quite see why "only 1 person in thouseands" would know about James...
Thank you
@amabel other than what I said, family ties, Brother to a future POW/Queen Consort, Uncle to a future King, he DID make front page news (*DM has a readership daily combined between UK, USA and Australia of 15 million - its inevitable when you open their site and James is plastered as front page + the clicks), and the paparazzi who lives in St. Bart's is following them if they leave the Mathews owned resort, as well as other 'famous' people who are holidaying in the island, are appearing in tabloids from those three countries I mentioned. How does the DM come to the conclusion to front page James Middleton rather than Paul McCartney, Stella, or the Russian Billionaire Abramovich?.stats, analysis, click traffic.
Kate and William join the Queen at church in Sandringham | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6562081/Kate-William-join-Queen-church-Sandringham.html)
Kate is in a blue Catherine Walker coat previously worn in Norway. Kate turns 37 years-old on Wednesday.
The Duke of Edinburgh was absent.
And friends in tow, perhaps an early birthday celebration The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge arrive to attend a church service... News Photo | Getty Images (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-arrive-to-attend-a-church-news-photo/1078194054?share=site_twitter)
They will likely be going back to London this afternoon, now or tomorrow early, for Prince George Thomas?s School in Battersea starts the term.
@wannable The guy next to the woman in the white coat looks familiar - one of William's long term friends. The term is probably starting on Monday
@TLLK - the date was posted in another thread.
^ Yes, familiar faces, the 3 look to be old time friends, godparents to W&K children.
The couple have participated in the past for the Epiphany Church, this picture was taken in 07 January 2017, William, Kate, the Middleton's where also there, and their friends. Perhaps they celebrate a early birthday/house party before going back to London. James Meade, Lady Laura Meade, James Matthews and Pippa Middleton... News Photo | Getty Images (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/james-meade-lady-laura-meade-james-matthews-and-pippa-news-photo/902631786?et=PXPd376-RsRs4vigIMTgqg&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fkatemiddletonreview.com%2F2018%2F01%2F07%2Fwilliam-kate-join-the-queen-for-church%2F)
I know that the Cambridges have held these gatherings with friends on the weekend closest to Catherine's birthday.
@wannable and
@Blue Clover, yes these appear to be many of the children's Godparents with their spouses.
QuoteKate is in a blue Catherine Walker coat previously worn in Norway. Kate turns 37 years-old on Wednesday.
It looks like the coat has been altered since last year and I believe that she's wearing one of the polka dot dresses that she wore either for the Evelina hospital visit or Prince Charles' birthday photos.
The coat has been beautifully retailored to her thin frame now. Great way to recycle maternity clothes.
Correction, the old picture is 7 January 2018, rather than 2017...but I am told that William and Kate have been staying at their Anmer Hall or Middleton Berkshire Manor doing this type of Christmas Holiday/attached to the last house party pre-birthday since 2016.
@TLLK Yes, the coat was tailored since he was pregnant the last time she wore it. Its looks very nice today.
@wannable Yes, it good to recycle maternity clothes.
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Quote from: Blue Clover on January 06, 2019, 05:33:16 PM
@TLLK Yes, the coat was tailored since he was pregnant the last time she wore it. Its looks very nice today.
@wannable Yes, it good to recycle maternity clothes.
Classic styles make it easier to alter maternity wear IMO. It's a beautiful color and she's likely to get more years of use from it. :happy:
@TLLK Kate has a clean and classic style which should be reusable for many years to come.
Catherine collected bouquets of flowers for QEII while exiting the church today.
QuoteAs she walked away from church, Kate accepted flowers from Mia Croft, ten, and brother Oakley, seven, from Letchworth, Hertfordshire, who were with grandparents Brian and Daphne Croft.
The Duchess leaned down to collect the blooms, saying: 'Are these for the Queen? I will take them back for you. She will love these - lots of bright colours.'
Mr Croft said: 'It is a lovely experience for our grandchildren to come here and it is fantastic that the Duchess stopped to speak to them.'
QuoteThe coat may have had to be taken in
Also this was a coat that she was wearing in the late second-beginning of the- third trimester of her last pregnancy, so having it taken in would be understandable. :)
Here are the Cambridges landing in Oslo, Norway 2/1/2018.
William and Kate given warm welcome by Norway's royals as private jet lands in winter wonderland in Oslo - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/william-kate-given-warm-welcome-11953011)
QuoteShe looks perfectly happy to me.
TBH she's seemed far more relaxed after Louis' arrival when compared to how she appeared after George's birth. :)
Her old repeat clothes fit her, she is back to her pre pregnancy George weight.
http://newsneednews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ccelebritiesfotokate-middleton-october-return.jpg
This was after her Prince Louis maternity leave, all the clothes are between 10 to 15 years old *shirt, sweater, jacket and pants, including the boots. :lol:
Quote from: amabel on January 08, 2019, 06:19:15 PM
Can't say I remember that.. but she was probably stressed with new motherhood...she seems to be smiling a lot in those pics
I agree that she looks more relaxed with this newest addition to the family. As far as I can tell she's been smiling in nearly every photos where I'd expect her to be engaging with the public.
As to being thinner....IMO it's hard to say. There will have been changes to her body (ie widening of the hips) that occur naturally due to childbirth. However she seems to be fitting into many of her pregnancy clothing again. She could also be trying a new exercise regime that has kept her muscles lean.
Oh well..IMO at least she looks less stressed than after George was born.
QuoteI get the pressure these ladies are under!
:wacko: It's crazy to think how much pressure the royal ladies face.
The strain obviously affected those who were diagnosed with eating disorders ie: Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden. :no:
Her face certainly looks too thin, which is ageing.. but i'd say she looks very happy in the pics, smiling a good deal
I know this is the wrong thread but I'm putting it here anyway!
The New Idea here in Aus is a down market magazine that often reprints National Enquirer and The Star rubbish, along with Queen Mary of Denmark Coronation 'news' and Jennifer Aniston pregnancies! :lol:
However, its latest issue has leapt on the fact that Camilla hasn't been seen in public since before the extended family Xmas lunch at BP and is asserting that Camilla and Charles are divorcing. They've stated that Charles is conferring with Fiona Shackleton, the lawyer who handled his divorce from Diana. The mainstream press have been sniffing around due to this however, and CH has refused to comment. They probably thought 'What the...!?'
I don't doubt that this is a load of garbage, but do wonder if there is something wrong with Camilla's health. This is quite a long time to remain incommunicado. If she had a cold and has now got something else wrong physically, she might still be in London instead of at Birkhall with Charles as is usual at this time of year.
Wow...tabloids know no boundaries do they? :lol:
I have to wonder too if Camilla's "heavy cold" is walking pneumonia. At her age and stage in life, this is serious stuff if she's down with an infection.
Quote from: Blue Clover on December 25, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
Is Prince Charles responsible for the unity we see today between the members of his own family? Can we give him credit bringing his sons and wives together in what is a difficult situation? A situation that could have caused many problems in the royal family?
I am personally inclined to believe that there was never any conflict. Just tabloid nonsense designed to get clickbait. In any case I am not sure Charles is that "involved" in his children's private lives. Why should he? They are over 30 and can deal with their problems. Only a controlling or clingy parent would want to interfere and he doesn't strike me as that. Neither is the queen. They are just getting on with their lives as the press creates crises and manufacturers reconciliations out of nothing.
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Quote from: TLLK on January 10, 2019, 04:39:13 AM
Wow...tabloids know no boundaries do they? :lol:
I have to wonder too if Camilla's "heavy cold" is walking pneumonia. At her age and stage in life, this is serious stuff if she's down with an infection.
It could be something serious or just a cold but again...everybody has to die some time. She has had a very good life and a very good run of things. If she is really ill, I would wish her the best. I would not wish anyone an early death and frankly it is quite disturbing that there are people that relish the prospect of seeing someone die.
Camilla has taken time off and reportedly goes to spas. She has done this before she re-commences royal work.
QuoteIt could be something serious or just a cold but again...everybody has to die some time. She has had a very good life and a very good run of things. If she is really ill, I would wish her the best. I would not wish anyone an early death and frankly it is quite disturbing that there are people that relish the prospect of seeing someone die.
I agree
@royalanthropologist Even if Camilla is over the initial illness, it could be taking longer for her to recover. It hasn't been quite yet a month from the BRF Christmas luncheon which was the first time she missed an event, so if she was very ill then I'm not surprised that she could still be under the weather.
I think she does (privately) go to spas to relax and rest. She also could be spending private time at Raymill with her children and grandchildren. Her son and daughter in law are separated so maybe she wants to spend more time with them in particular.
If she gained weight, the face would look fuller and healthier
^^
@sandy-Yes I agree that her face would be fuller but appears she may have gone back to the previous weight in order to be able to fit into her previous wardrobe. :)
The great thing about being a royal is that you actually choose when and how you want to work. For mortals, you must be back at work come 2nd January. Besides, it would be very unwise to bring diseases to events where the Queen and DOE are. They could catch something. Better to stay away until you are no longer infectious.
Speaking of feuds, I think Meghan is doing the right thing. Getting on with her work. I am sure she would like to fire back but she is keeping her powder dry for now. All her events show someone that is confident, friendly and a great addition to BRF. I hope they don't let palace insiders spoil things with their press briefings.
New documentary examines the strong bond between Charles and his grandmother. Charles had little time with his mother, whose main focus was the monarchy. QM thought that Charles resembled her late husband George VI.
Prince Charles reminded Queen Mother of her insecure husband King George VI | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6809447/Prince-Charles-reminded-Queen-Mother-insecure-husband-King-George-VI.html)
Penny Junor apparently appears in this one. Gee there have been a lot of documentaries about personal relationships within the royal family in the last 18 months or so. One series I do want to see is the one in which the relations between the Queen and her younger children is examined.
Was king George VI really insecure?
Quote from: oak_and_cedar on March 16, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
Was king George VI really insecure?
yes very. He had a stammer, was very shy, and felt the great strain of having to suddely become King because his brother abdicated. Then he had the greater strain of having to be King during a terrible World War
Quote from: amabel on March 16, 2019, 05:31:51 PM
yes very. He had a stammer, was very shy, and felt the great strain of having to suddely become King because his brother abdicated. Then he had the greater strain of having to be King during a terrible World War
I think king George VI was the second child if i'm not mistaken. They ought to have prepared him just as much as they did his brother.
they didn't because there was no real reason to do so. And it would not have mattered. he was still a shy nervy conscientious man who worried and stressed himself...He had a stammer which made public speaking agony for him. He was the King during WWII.. Britain was fighting for her life, while his brother was messing around in the S of France...
Charles is a lot more self centered than George VI. George showed enough gumption to stop seeing a married mistress before he even thought of courting Lady Elizabeth. I think it a pity he was not around when Charles was a teen and young adult. Charles did not get IMO good advice from the Queen MOther and Mountbatten.
I think it's amazing how much the POW resembles his grandfather physically. His profile, especially. Not so much when he was younger, but it is quite pronounced now. KGVI appeared to be quite proud of his grandson in the pictures of them together at Anne's christening. I agree it is a shame they didn't get to have more time, Sandy.
He takes after his father's side of the family too, he has the outsize ears of his paternal grandfather Andrew. He has the Queen's and Queen Mother's same hair color.
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Lug it! Mia Tindall grabs onto Prince William's EARS as she hitches a ride on his shoulders | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6919479/Lug-Mia-Tindall-grabs-Prince-Williams-EARS-hitches-ride-shoulders.html)
Cute photos of cousins William and Zara with their families.
Yes, I thought it was very nice to see them all having fun together.
We don't see many unofficial pictures of them, and they have all changed in the past few months, as children usually do. If there was ever any question about whether Princess Charlotte will be tall it is surely answered now. Looking at her pictures I could easily believe she is almost five instead of almost four. Fun to see a photo of Lena Tindall.
Hard to believe that any of QEII's grandchildren have grown and changed so quickly in just one year. Louis and Lena will be celebrating their first birthdays soon and in a short period of time we'll see them running around with the older ones.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's children have been chatting to family members on Zoom during the lockdown
More: Kate Middleton's children's close relationship with royal cousins REVEALED as Mike Tindall gives rare insight | HELLO! (https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020050889517/prince-george-princess-charlotte-relationship-with-cousins-revealed/?utm_medium=social_media&campaign=hellouk&utm_source=Twitter)
Does that man never stop talking..
He hasn't said anything earth shattering, it's not a bombshell.
Cousins being close is great, as I know from my own experience. In this case, I'm guessing it's even more enjoyable, as they can have fun together without cameras and RR's. Hopefully in future the Sussex child(ren) will be involved as well!
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 10, 2020, 06:38:17 PM
Cousins being close is great, as I know from my own experience. In this case, I'm guessing it's even more enjoyable, as they can have fun together without cameras and RR's. Hopefully in future the Sussex child(ren) will be involved as well!
SInce Archie Is living in the US, its not that likely that he'll see much of his Englsih based cousins
It is wonderful when cousins can get along so splendidly. Happy times are so nice for children. :teehee: :teehee:
Quote from: QueenAlex on May 10, 2020, 07:42:42 PM
SInce Archie Is living in the US, its not that likely that he'll see much of his Englsih based cousins
Not very often, for sure. But as things settle down I hope the Sussex family will visit the RF at least once a year....after all, there won't be much opportunity for cousin relationships on the Markle side.
What chance is there when both parents are not in good terms.
The Cambridge children are close to the children of the Tindall's, Mathews, and their close knit circle of friends Norfolk, and in the London club's membership football tennis swimming and school.
It's Zara who is cousin to William not her children to William's offspring. And I'm not so sure about the closeness of the Tindall kids to the Cambridge clan. Yes, the two families meet up at horsey events every so often during the year, but after all the Tindalls (and the Phillips's) live quite a way away, on Anne's estate, from both Anmer in Norfolk and KP in London.
Not close enough for everyday drop-ins even under normal circumstances.
And something to keep in mind is the both Mike and Zara Tindall are in the commercial world, with promotion the name of the game in much of what they both do. Mike seems a very nice, genial person and Zara too is pleasant, but not let's forget that Zara's position as granddaughter to the Queen is valuable in the commercial world and it's worthwhile Mike keeping that connection with members of the RF in public view when he does interviews with the media.
My father and his only sister were very close siblings. My cousin (an only child like myself) and his mother, my aunt, lived in another part of Norfolk to myself and we met up perhaps six to eight times a year, including Xmas. We have always been cordial but under no circumstances since early childhood would I have regarded his and my relationship as close. All children play together when they meet but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on that.
As for Harry and Meghan there seems to be an impression given in the media and here that except for celebrities they are isolated and friendless. In fact both have close friends from the non celebrity world, including friends who have children.
I've got no doubt whatsoever that when Archie goes to the UK in the future he will play with his cousins and second cousins. And also that he will play and interact and maybe be close with the children of his parents' friends and with kinder and school friends, just like everyone else.
If he comes and lives in the UK, if not, I really don't see Archie much with any of his royal cousins. It's very telling the use a repeated old baptism day picture by the 3 households congratulating the child's birthday.
Mike and Zara, if we take his word, hasn't met Archie to date. Not much of a chance since he admitted end July 2019. His latest is ''Harry is very busy, hence...''.
I don't need the media, the last show, Westminster Abbey celebrating Commonwealth day film, Prince Edward was the only one who interacted a bit with the couple, William said Hi Harry, everyone had uncomfortable faces, Harry looked angry in the procession of departure. The child is a minor, if the adults are at odds, the chance of encounter drops. That 2 week window in the UK was a lost opportunity for Harry, Meghan and the Nanny to make play dates, meet and greet.
Maybe they don't want to make play dates. IMO Archie is going to be in the US for the future.. and so he wont see that much of his cousins.. and I think that tehre is certainly tension between Meg and H and the rest of the family...
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 14, 2020, 12:28:53 AM
Not very often, for sure. But as things settle down I hope the Sussex family will visit the RF at least once a year....after all, there won't be much opportunity for cousin relationships on the Markle side.
Hoping that in the future that the Sussexes will choose to visit the UK at least one or two times a year with their son.
It would be lovely for Louis to have Archie as a playmate.
TLLK:
As much as I also would like that to happen I really do not see Meghan ever visiting England again, she by her own actions has shown she does not like the country at all and Hollywood is more her home and style of what she wants in life. Harry will just have to accept that if he wants this marriage to work for the long term. Unfortunately for Archie he will always be just a zoom picture or a face in the news for the royal family from what we have seen so far ......and why pay rent on Frogmore if it is never used. I wish them well yet do not see it ending well for them or the royal family either.
Quote from: Nightowl on May 15, 2020, 07:13:17 AM
TLLK:
As much as I also would like that to happen I really do not see Meghan ever visiting England again, she by her own actions has shown she does not like the country at all and Hollywood is more her home and style of what she wants in life. Harry will just have to accept that if he wants this marriage to work for the long term. Unfortunately for Archie he will always be just a zoom picture or a face in the news for the royal family from what we have seen so far ......and why pay rent on Frogmore if it is never used. I wish them well yet do not see it ending well for them or the royal family either.
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I agree that I don't see Meghan comng back to the Uk but they will keep Frogmore. Unless some other royal wants it, its not likely to be usable by anyone else so they will keep up the rent on it. And I think that Meghan maybe always wanted a Hollywood location and thought that when she and H had been working royals for a year or 2 they would be allowed to go part time.. and he either agreed with her or didn't realise that the queen was not going to allow that.
She may not like the UK and they may live in Hollywood permanently, but marriage is a two-way street and she will certainly agree to visit Harry's family occasionally....and don't forget, the POW is footing the bills for now (not that we know the particulars, of course). If she refused it would be very surprising. I also suspect both she and Harry will want Archie to have a relationship with the RF, especially the Cambridge children. And with Louis close in age...
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 16, 2020, 12:31:13 AM
She may not like the UK and they may live in Hollywood permanently, but marriage is a two-way street and she will certainly agree to visit Harry's family occasionally....and don't forget, the POW is footing the bills for now (not that we know the particulars, of course). If she refused it would be very surprising. I also suspect both she and Harry will want Archie to have a relationship with the RF, especially the Cambridge children. And with Louis close in age...
Of course they'll visit... (and yes I am sure Charles is footing a lot of the bills ad he probably HOPES for them to come home). But if they stay in the US I don't know how much of a relationship is likely to develop between young kids who rarely see each other.
Quote from: QueenAlex on May 16, 2020, 10:31:39 AM
Of course they'll visit... (and yes I am sure Charles is footing a lot of the bills ad he probably HOPES for them to come home). But if they stay in the US I don't know how much of a relationship is likely to develop between young kids who rarely see each other.
Good point, but there is something about cousins that makes them close even when they don't see each other often. At least that is what has happened in my family and I sincerely hope for Archie's sake that it does for the BRF. He will probably be close to the children of Meghan's friends, but it isn't the same as cousins.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on May 16, 2020, 04:00:49 PM
Good point, but there is something about cousins that makes them close even when they don't see each other often. At least that is what has happened in my family and I sincerely hope for Archie's sake that it does for the BRF. He will probably be close to the children of Meghan's friends, but it isn't the same as cousins.
IME it depends on the family. Some cousins are close, others aren't. And even if they play together as children, the realationships don't necessarily last forever when they are grown up and esp if they live far away. and if there is stress and a bit of a rift in the family... they may never get past the formal occasional meeting stage.
There is an article that comments that Harry did not see his niece or nephews while in the UK.
Well, William has a nephew. Has William shown any interest in being an uncle to his nephew or his niece that will be born in June?
Harry was in a 5 day lockdown, 6th day the funeral, 7th day out.
Harry was the one who left the UK for California...
AFAIK the Cambridges (William and Catherine) did see little Archie shortly after he was born and then of course at the baptism.That's only the information that's been released and anything else would have been private which is in keeping with what the BRF tends to do in their off time. The Sussexes didn't go to Balmoral in the summer of 2019, so unfortunately the family did not have the opportunity to see him then either. Post 2019 and through 2020 and into 2021, reportedly the family has been keeping in touch through virtual chats and calls especially since COVID has restricted so many family interactions around the globe.
The Sussexes have confirmed in the Oprah Winfrey interview that they are having a girl, so I believe that the family will be sending their congratulations once the little girl arrives. If her parents had opted to use her title she would be Lady (name) Windsor however I believe that they'll choose to do as they did with their son and just have their daughter be Miss (name) Mountbatten-Windsor. :Jen:
As
@wannable pointed out, it would have been very difficult for Prince Harry to have contact with anyone prior to the funeral due to mandatory quarantine. I do know that Prince Harry used to frequently drop in at KP to play with his nephew and niece.
Like so many of us right now, Harry wouldn't get the chance to see his family and there is no way his brother could travel to US.
I hope they get a chance to Zoom. It's better than nothing. My nephews here in Canada haven't seen their grandparents in England in 2 years. That's a long time for a 4 year old. To him Pappy and Gram are people on a screen. :cry: I get to see him IRL but I haven't had a hug in over a year.
Here's one of the articles from 2019 shortly after little Archie's birth. William and Catherine met Archie one week after he was born and then with the children a week or so later. Later the families were spotted at a charity polo match. However as previously mentioned, the BRF does tend to keep their private lives....private.
Revealed: why Kate Middleton didn't take George, Charlotte and Louis to meet baby Archie right away | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020050789491/why-kate-middleton-children-didnt-meet-archie-straight-away/)
I don't think the children will remember or know each other.
The damage is too deep and the bridge is completely burnt, ashes taken by the wind. Even USA The Daily Beast said it's kaput, especially for the BRF, who have a monarchy/government/duty/service to think about. In some certain terms, allegedly Charles said stronger words than the Queen's 'you work for the monarchy, the monarchy doesn't work for you, in referencing William and himself (Charles). The Daily Beast has gone pay per view with their more 'juicy' stories.
I hope that they do mend a bit. Who knows what will happen. My brother in law and his sisters don?t talk but the cousins do. And they talk with their aunts and uncle. The argument is between the older generation. The younger generation aren?t having any part of that.
In this day and age of electronic communication, they could work at trying to have some connection.
If the Sussex apologize, maybe. They threw Kate under the bridge twice.
@Macrobug67 - I hope that they do mend their relations as well. Archie and sister have an entire family in the UK to grow up with and make happy family memories. Who knows, perhaps it will be Louis, Archie, Lena, August, Lucas and (Baby Girl Sussex) who will be racing around the Balmoral grounds on ponies, bikes or ATVs one day being chased by Savannah, Isla, George, Charlotte and Mia just like their parents and grandparents did so many years ago. :happy:
Perhaps when they come of age.
Quote from: TLLK on April 24, 2021, 12:51:33 AM
@Macrobug67 - I hope that they do mend their relations as well. Archie and sister have an entire family in the UK to grow up with and make happy family memories. Who knows, perhaps it will be Louis, Archie, Lena, August, Lucas and (Baby Girl Sussex) who will be racing around the Balmoral grounds on ponies, bikes or ATVs one day being chased by Savannah, Isla, George, Charlotte and Mia just like their parents and grandparents did so many years ago. :happy:
That's fun to think about, though most likely the visits will be few and far between. There is a special relationship between cousins, and even if visits are not frequent these cousins could be close.
Its unlikely. The kids may meet once a year or so and there is tension in the family.
Quote from: wannable on April 24, 2021, 12:49:27 AM
If the Sussex apologize, maybe. They threw Kate under the bridge twice.
It's possible that Prince Harry has already made a private apology to his sister-in-law over the interview story as reportedly she was present when he met with Charles and William.
Harry may limit his family's access to his children.
IMHO that would be very sad for all involved. :no: I recall that William and Harry had limited interaction with their cousins Beatrice and Eugenie after the mothers fell out. They only saw the York girls when they were with Charles prior to Diana's death. I hope that in the future that the Sussex children will see their UK family for holidays or in the summer. :)
The Times says that new chapters will be added to Finding Freedom for a re - sale, it will cover the Oprah Interview and Prince Philips death, all what went through Harry and Meghan, fully detailed.
Do you really think the BRF, or this specific thread William and Kate will ever speak to the duo? The Duo during their time in the UK did not want to share with anyone, missed out on the holidays.
It is over and out.
I don't believe that it is "over and out." I do believe that in time that the family members will begin to speak again even if they need to take it slowly for awhile. There are anniversaries, birthdays and a new little girl coming soon so these are always positive subjects for the family members to connect over.
I think there will MAYBE be a gradual improvment of relations but I dont think they'll be close again. I dont htink that Meg and Harry are going to change.. and as a a result I think that Will, and Kate are going to feel let down and angry and it wont ever be the same again...
I cant see it being anything more than the most superficial of relationships. The trust is completely gone.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on April 25, 2021, 11:21:58 AM
I cant see it being anything more than the most superficial of relationships. The trust is completely gone.
Exactly. I don't think that Harry's likely to apologise sincerely, because I don't think that he or Meg think that they've done anything wrong... They might make some kind of superficial apology just to try and keep up a polite front but its only a month since they did a very explosive interview. Diana was critical of the RF but she was still careful what she said..
I think that William will feel let down by his brother in all sorts of ways. Diana was an angry wronged wife, for her to get mad and do an interview was one thing but harry has accused his own family of racism, cruelty, pushing him out and refusing to talk to him..
I dont think he'll have to limit access to his children, it wont really arise that his kids will see the RF's kids all that much..
''Cambridges and other Royal Family members'' (Board/Thread)
The irony, one would think the Cambridges are the ones that took off and are completely lonely/alone with no family support from parents and siblings and ghosted friends of both sides of the family :sarcastic:
Quote from: Yale on April 24, 2021, 12:14:39 AM
There is an article that comments that Harry did not see his niece or nephews while in the UK.
Well, William has a nephew. Has William shown any interest in being an uncle to his nephew or his niece that will be born in June?
how's William supposed to see the child, when he is in the US and travelling is restricted because of Covid?
Quote from: Amabel2 on April 25, 2021, 01:38:56 PM
how's William supposed to see the child, when he is in the US and travelling is restricted because of Covid?
William (and Kate) will go only to the USA when required by The Queen/Foreign/Trade Office with a busy schedule.
Their preferred holidays is Mustique or one of the Alps Ski destinations. Lately, with the pandemic, their holidays; be it long weekend, Easter, summer, Christmas is spent at Anmer Hall, with the 1 week at Balmoral to be with the QEII and everyone else that usually is there.
I'm not sure what that means since I thought we were talking about the present and at present, foreign travel is not really happening. But when Covid is under control, there's nothing to stop Harry from coming to the UK or William and Kate from visiting the US.
In a supposed case scenario of travelling to the USA, the couple (Cambridges) have never been there for holiday, only for work.
That does not mean that they can never go there. If things thaw a bit (not that I really see it happening) it is perfeclty possible for them to go and visit California. Its not as if they are short of money or time off
The trust is lost. That is hard to near impossible to reacquire. Why go and have an awkward holiday?
Honestly, I don't no anyone out of free will to literally go and spend a holiday/free time and visit someone who stabbed you on the back in a TV show for the world to see. And I've been corrected, Meghan threw Kate under the bus 3 times rather than 2.
The Sussex's feel from the word go - feeling sorry for themselves, insulted, victimized, so they are in revenge mode (hurting themselves). Part of the revenge is to talk bad or leak Harry's family whenever they have a contact with. So if things thaw a 'bit' and William and Kate decide to go/walk on egg, something slightly happens that make Harry and Meghan feel wrong, the Sussex go mad and decide to tell Gayle the visit...
But that applies to any meeting between them and the Cambridge's. Odds are that Harry will visit the UK for Diana's statue, and they'll talk a bit. they are hardly going to go all their lives hardly meeting at all.. I'm sure the RF doesn't want to give the impression that they are being treated like the Windsors.. there will be polite interactions...Just IMO there will never be a deep relationship again.. Even if the marriage were to break up, I think that Harry's obvious anger at the family esp I think his father and brother, is going to create a tension between them.
I agree with polite talk, but full on visits and holidays together, no.
I'm sure there will be visits. Unless Harry Is going to be treated like the DOW and only invited rarely to the UK and rather frostily treated while there, I'm sure that he'll be asked with his wife and family to comes and see Charles and Camilla.. a nd that will entail meeting Wil and Kate as well. It probably always WILL Be rather cool and people will be uneasy, but Im sure Charles wont want to create further divisions. As
@TLLK has said, Diana wouldn't' let her sons meet the Yorks when she had a row with Sarah, and I cant imagine that the RF want to create situations like that...
#They wont be close but tehy will keep up a certian contact. Just that I doubt the kids will see enough of each other to become buddies.
The Prince of Wales praises Prince Harry for his commitment to the environment. Perhaps this is a thawing in their relationship?
Prince Charles praises Harry for his climate change campaigning (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/prince-charles-praises-harry-for-his-climate-change-campaigning/ar-AASoRZj?ocid=msedgntp)
QuotePrince Charles offered an olive branch to Prince Harry last night, praising his son's 'passionate' work to highlight climate change.
The heir to the throne said he was 'proud' that both his sons had recognised the threat facing the planet, and commended their commitment to green causes.
His specific praise for Harry will be seen as an attempt to heal a rift, after sources said the pair had barely spoken for months.
Charles, 73, made his comments in an essay about climate change.
Quote from: TLLK on January 05, 2022, 01:33:21 AM
The Prince of Wales praises Prince Harry for his commitment to the environment. Perhaps this is a thawing in their relationship?
Prince Charles praises Harry for his climate change campaigning (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/prince-charles-praises-harry-for-his-climate-change-campaigning/ar-AASoRZj?ocid=msedgntp)
I certainly hope so! Nobody in the family would want to go on for ever. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor?s relationship with the RF became, under very different circumstances, a running sore for over thirty years. And this is a couple with a young family.
Kudo's to the Prince of Wales. He is a very caring and sensitive man and understands the need to not wallow in drama. He understood that someone had to make the first move. May he be rewarded with a corresponding gesture from the Sussexes.
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"I know my grandmother and grandfather are very fond of her," Zara told The Sunday People. "They thought she was just right for William.
"My grandmother liked Kate as soon as they met. They both adore her."
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The Queen enjoyed an afternoon with some of her nearest and dearest as she continued her remarkable recovery from Covid, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The 95-year-old monarch, who tested positive for the virus just over a week ago, went to Frogmore on her Windsor Estate on Sunday, where younger members of her family had gathered to meet her for the first time since her diagnosis.
They included Princess Beatrice, her baby daughter Sienna and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their three children, who were all making the most of the unseasonably glorious sunshine.
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