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Modern & Historical Discussions => Royalty & Aristocracy Throughout History => Diana Princess of Wales => Topic started by: Curryong on January 28, 2017, 10:39:00 PM

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Title: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on January 28, 2017, 10:39:00 PM
A thread dedicated to the all of the memorials to the late Diana, Princess of Wales.



I have mixed feelings about a Diana statue, I have to admit. On the one hand, it's a permanent reminder to her sons of their mother and her life. It is going to be near KP where they both live and they can visit it sometimes for a few moments of quiet reflection.

On the other hand, a statue doesn't do good of itself, does it, and is often just a receptacle for bird poo! It's often far better, I feel, to continue the things that were important to the memorialised person in life, such as charity work that helps and sustains others. This both sons are doing, and that's good.

Charles has been consulted of course and the Queen has given permission for this statue. I do wonder sometimes what Charles thinks of his sons regularly evoking their mother in speeches and when speaking to the media, especially as there is a perception among some royal watchers that he and William really aren't that close.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Trudie on January 29, 2017, 12:15:33 PM
^ I hope it irks Charles that his sons regularly evoke their mother as it should. Diana accomplished a great amount of awareness in the fields of homelessness, AIDS, landmines, the arts, leprosy the list goes on but she also achieved her greatest accomplishment as a mother and unheard of in the BRF a very hands on mother who loved and guided her boys in normal childhood adventures nursery school outside the palace, trips to McDonald's and amusement parks and public duties as appropriate as they got older.

To Charles Diana was a brood mare, to William and Harry she was their mother and protector. William and Harry witnessed first hand the outpouring of love for their mother at her passing and as children were in no position to make decisions to honor her. The time is now right that William and Harry not only remember their mother but to keep her memory and humanitarian legacy alive so future generations can know her the mother of a King.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on January 29, 2017, 12:49:07 PM
This is very sweet of Diana's children.

I wonder where will it exactly be placed though, as there is 5 existing statues/memorials at KP palace - gardens.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: Trudie on January 29, 2017, 12:15:33 PM
^ I hope it irks Charles that his sons regularly evoke their mother as it should.

The last thing any family needs is constant squabbling and quarreling. The public/supporters played a very big role in turning the Prince and Princess of Wales against one another. Now a celebration of Diana is about to be turned into some sort of revenge exercise against the royal family??? Then people wonder why the establishment is so eager to forget about Diana.

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Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 05:44:11 PM
Btw, the commentary on DM is brutal. It seems the Diana fans have managed to alienate neutral members of the public with their harping on about why they need to put the statue in front of Buckingham Palace and Clarence house in order to annoy the royal family. Absolutely pathetic. Diana was an ex-wife and ex-daughter-in-law who they did not like or get on well with. The feelings of mistrust and antipathy were mutual. Her sons have sensibly proposed to put a statue for her in her old home near them. That has nothing to do with the rest of the royal family and even less to do with Camilla or Charles. I would hope they would not attend. It should be Diana's sons and her siblings/friends; otherwise we will have another long cry about who needs to be booed and hounded.

Still, the "fans" are not satisfied. They want someone to be punished and hounded on the day of the unveiling. Diana has been turned into a figure of hate, revenge and even obsessiveness. That is not healthy IMO. It actually makes perfectly reasonable people more aggressive to the extent that they say things that are not very nice about her.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Trudie on January 29, 2017, 06:56:17 PM
I'm not interested in the comments of the DM all I am say is it is right and proper to have a statue of the mother of a future King as a reminder of all the work she did as POW on behalf of the monarchy. Diana lived her whole adult life at KP and I agree with William and Harry that is the place for it to be.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
I have always thought a memorial for her was appropriate. It only becomes negative when some people try to use every memorial as a means of sowing discord amongst members of the royal family. The vengefullness after all these years is off-putting. I mentioned DM because I always assumed the readers there were mad about Diana but the statue story has riled them for some reason.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on January 29, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 28, 2017, 10:39:00 PM
I have mixed feelings about a Diana statue, I have to admit. On the one hand, it's a permanent reminder to her sons of their mother and her life. It is going to be near KP where they both live and they can visit it sometimes for a few moments of quiet reflection.

On the other hand, a statue doesn't do good of itself, does it, and is often just a receptacle for bird poo! It's often far better, I feel, to continue the things that were important to the memorialised person in life, such as charity work that helps and sustains others. This both sons are doing, and that's good.

Charles has been consulted of course and the Queen has given permission for this statue.  I do wonder sometimes what Charles thinks of his sons regularly evoking their mother in speeches and when speaking to the media, especially as there is a perception among some royal watchers that he and William really aren't that close.
Unless it has those metal "porcupine quills" covering the surface it will become a bird roost!  Personally I loved the fountain as it was an unique and playful memorial which I though fit her personality. Absolutely agree @Curryong that QEII and the PoW are well aware of their plans and the brothers would have  the consultants available to help with design and execution for this statue.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on January 30, 2017, 01:51:38 AM
Princess Diana: Princes commission statue 20 years after her death - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38785218)

This article mentions that HM QEII supports her grandsons' decision. Funding for the statue is to be met privately so likely sources include money from the brothers and their relatives, friends etc... I don't see any mention of public funds.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on January 30, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
The Spencers behaved appallingly in the matter of Diana's godchildren, I agree. However, as far as royals in the BRF are concerned we don't know whether any in the direct line and their consorts ever left a penny to charities. All their wills are sealed for all time. I remember a man who thought he was Princess Margaret's illegitimate son fought a legal battle all the way up to the High Court to get the right to see what was inside it. To this day we don't know how much the Queen Mother left.

I see the will Princess Diana made as a rather perfunctory one. She was a wonderfully healthy woman of 36 who had just got divorced and was looking forward to a new phase of life. She thought she had forty years ahead of her at least and probably felt she would have tons of time to expand that will in the way she wished, or write a new one. Careless, no doubt, but a lot of people don't tend to things like wills until it's too late.

The statue isn't like that ridiculous hedge that's going up at KP. It's not going to take any public money, not even indirectly out of the sovereign grant. If it's her sons' money and that of her old friends and supporters I really don't see that it is anybody else's business what it cost. I'm not a great fan of statues per se, and would rather see a grant towards childhood diseases or a scholarship endowed in Diana's name myself, but I'm not William or Harry.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Trudie on January 30, 2017, 05:03:07 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 11:21:54 PM
I agree with @SophieChloe about payment, especially since Diana left them a fortune of nearly $50 million and left virtually nothing to any charity (I think one of the very few royals who never bequeathed anything to charity, despite her humanitarian work). Even the little that was left to the god children was snatched away from them by the Spencers (how mean can you get????).

I believe William and Harry are paying for it using private donations but, Diana I think did leave some money to charity though she also may have thought she had raised enough money over the years and would continue to do so. Diana left in her will a codicil or wishes to be carried out regarding her godchildren that her mother and sister Lady Sarah ignored for what reason is beyond me.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on January 30, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
You are quite right @Curryong that Diana being a young, healthy woman never thought of writing a detailed will. Also, the royals tend to seal their wills but over time it becomes clear that they leave plenty of bequests to their favorite charities. It was interesting to me to look back at the contrast between the wills or non-wills of Mary I and Elizabeth I of England. Mary was supposed to be the wicked, cruel will but she left a very generous will with countless charities. Elizabeth by contrast was not willing to make any will or any bequest lest it touches on her wealth or gives people ideas about the succession. Just goes to show, that people are quite complex with a public face and a shadow face that can be the exact opposite of what we think of them.

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Btw I do not rate the Spencers at all. They come across as a rather horrid family but those who visit their estate say that Johnny was actually quite kind to the public....although we also hear he beat his wife.  Charles Spencer is just a nasty man, all round. I really can find nothing good to say about him. The two sisters seem close to William and Harry so they must be doing something right.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on January 30, 2017, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 11:21:54 PM
I agree with @SophieChloe about payment, especially since Diana left them a fortune of nearly $50 million and left virtually nothing to any charity (I think one of the very few royals who never bequeathed anything to charity, despite her humanitarian work). Even the little that was left to the god children was snatched away from them by the Spencers (how mean can you get????).

The money mostly went to her sons and perhaps Diana believed they would use the money for charitable work. Diana had she lived would IMO of course have given of her time and money to charities.

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Quote from: royalanthropologist on January 29, 2017, 07:12:59 PM
I have always thought a memorial for her was appropriate. It only becomes negative when some people try to use every memorial as a means of sowing discord amongst members of the royal family. The vengefullness after all these years is off-putting. I mentioned DM because I always assumed the readers there were mad about Diana but the statue story has riled them for some reason.

How the other royals think is subject to speculation. I think Charles and the Queen appear to have given this project a green light. She was their mother after all and the royal sons William and Harry have every right to do this. There are always DM readers who make snarky comments about Diana, generally the same ones who trash Diana in all stories about her. I recognize some of the names already, the usual ones who bash Diana I think it has nothing to do with the statue per se.  I also think some negativity comes from people who talk about William and Harry playing the Diana card.  I see this statue as all positive. If the Queen did not want it, it would not be happening. I think Diana's grandchildren Charlotte and George will appreciate the statue as will possible future grandchildren.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on February 01, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: Curryong on January 30, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
The Spencers behaved appallingly in the matter of Diana's godchildren, I agree. However, as far as royals in the BRF are I see the will Princess Diana made as a rather perfunctory one. She was a wonderfully healthy woman of 36 who had just got divorced and was looking forward to a new phase of life. She thought she had forty years ahead of her at least and probably felt she would have tons of time to expand that will in the way she wished, or write a new one. Careless, no doubt, but a lot of people don't tend to things like wills until it's too late.
wel yes of course ti was a "holder" will rather than her absolute final wishes.  Odds are that she was told that she should make a new Will on being divorced and she did the simplest thing of dividing her money betwee her 2 sons.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 02, 2017, 01:26:47 AM
I sincerely hope that it will not look like the one featured in the DM's article. That one is terrifying IMHO. I wonder if if will be based upon a formal portrait or a casual one? Somehow I doubt it will feature Diana in full gala (tiara, long gown, orders etc...) nor do I think that she'll be given a Greek revival appearance (toga, sandals).

I'm hoping it's a bronze as I find that it would be a "warmer" material to work with rather than marble. Any thoughts RIF posters as to the design?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on February 02, 2017, 02:40:47 AM
^ I too would like to see a bronze Diana statue, and probably due to costs I'd guess that's what it will be. There are many lovely photographs of Diana in casual dress with small children around her and I think that would portray her best. Diana wearing one of her longer dresses would look quite appropriate, I think.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 02, 2017, 05:06:18 AM
I would suggest a roman-type or Grecian pose. Informal statues do not always work so although Diana loved children, a statue of her with children might come across as being rather tacky. Unfortunately she never got to the stage where she could wear garter robes or even a crown so no such photos exist. There is a rather lovely pre-engagement photo in green which might just work. Glad that Rosa Monckton is not part of the team. She really botched up the first tribute.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 02, 2017, 05:21:28 AM
QuoteI would suggest a roman-type or Grecian pose.
So a formal and classic pose for the statue.  :)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 02, 2017, 05:59:40 AM
Yes, I think. You see Diana was always a princess and in many ways a model of what a princess ought to look like in the modern age. However, she never quite got to the old grandeur of a queen. If they make her informal, it would be just like another celebrity (something you might find in Hollywood). She was once a princess of the UK so they have to emphasize that in some way. That is why I suggested the pre-engagement photo. She looked so young, beautiful and fresh. The early marriage photos looked painfully said; the post separation ones looked bitter; the in-divorce-proceeding photos looked twisted; and the post-divorce looked wonderful. Maybe they can get inspiration from the Testino set if not the engagement ones. Just a thought.

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This is what I mean. Any of these two photos would work:

1000+ images about May 11/Official Lady Diana Spencer Engagement Portrait on Pinterest | Royal weddings, Posts and Souvenirs (https://www.pinterest.com/rkodis1981/may-11official-lady-diana-spencer-engagement-portr/)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 03, 2017, 02:00:03 AM
1000+ images about May 11/Official Lady Diana Spencer Engagement Portrait on Pinterest | Royal weddings, Posts and Souvenirs
Very lovely photos from the engagement but I have to wonder if William and Harry would choose something from the early to mid-nineties because that would be closer to her age at the time of her death. While those weren't her happiest years, something from those years might be more recognizable to the public.

https://www.google.com/search?q=princes+diana+with+landmine+victims&tbm=isch&imgil=PYCo9CsQia82yM%253A%253B3f1KLhxXViDcpM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fangolarising.blogspot.com%25252F2013%25252F01%25252Fupdate-on-princess-dianas-angola.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=PYCo9CsQia82yM%253A%252C3f1KLhxXViDcpM%252C_&usg=__J9JVdaQwVPgcz11K7fpBaNZjH30%3D&biw=1280&bih=691&ved=0ahUKEwivkcq66vLRAhXnwVQKHVy9B-MQyjcIMw&ei=XeSTWO_uGeeD0wLc-p6YDg#imgrc=PYCo9CsQia82yM:

Here is one taken when she was in Angola for the landmine victims trip. Perhaps something that would feature their mother's expression when she was interacting with people?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on February 03, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
It's tricky isn't it, because we just don't know which period of Diana's life her sons would which to portray? Diana looked an absolute darling when she was very young and newly engaged/married.

However, would William and Harry choose the young girl over the motherly figure they both remember? JMO, but I do feel they will choose a Diana who is doing something. She was so associated with children throughout her life, both well and sick, that I suggested before something along those lines, ie holding children, though I know that such a statue could turn out to look rather disneyish and mawkish.

Perhaps her sons might want a Diana sitting and in reflective mood, but to me that doesn't speak to the person, a woman who was intensely alive. Perhaps they will go for the Diana of the later 1990's, involved in the Landmines campaign, or the one closely involved in the fight against AIDS prejudice, or would that be too full-on? Difficult.... 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 03, 2017, 02:19:03 PM
I agree @Curryong. Between four people we've had quite the variety of suggestions of how the late Princess of Wales should be depicted. I'm curious to see what her sons will opt for if preliminary sketches are released.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 03, 2017, 07:20:03 PM
"I read that Diana did not like the way she looked pre-engagement and at the engagement".

Oh the foolishness of youth @sandy :no: In my opinion Diana's best photos were the ones at the engagement and the ones after the divorce. But she is not alone in not liking her youthful photos despite the fact that many of us see them as some of her best.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on February 03, 2017, 11:48:22 PM
I think it would be most appropriate to have her statue when she looked her best. She was just a kid when she got engaged. The off the rack blue suit and the puffy sleeved engagement dress were "historic" but not iconic.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 04, 2017, 05:22:50 AM
I have to disagree a bit that Diana was a kid when she got married. She was 18 and there have been emperors and empresses who took control of their estates at that age or even younger. Indeed she was in the age of majority, although a tad under-educated and under-exposed. In terms of looks, she looked magnificent. Even in the early years of the marriage she looked great but very, very sad. There is a photo of her at a state banquet which is just heartbreaking in its sadness.

In the late eighties and early nineties, Diana had become cynical and somewhat manipulative. It showed in her face and dress. There was always a message of defiance or subtle upstaging e.g the revenge dress and the panorama outfit. To me those were not her best years because she was in the midst of a battle.

After the divorce, she came into her own looks-wise. Although she no longer had the glow of youth; this was a mature, serious and beautiful woman. She had a purpose in life apart from getting back at her husband, his family and his mistress. The glamorous humanitarian was born and she had shed some of the gaudy dresses/trinkets of her royal life. To this day the Testino photographs looks stunning, some of her finest moments aesthetically.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 04, 2017, 09:20:46 AM
You are quite right @TLLK. I stand corrected.

I also refer to @sandy with regards to the HRH title. As I understand it the Queen had not really paid attention to it either way until Diana unilaterally released a statement to the effect that she was retaining the title and would be known as the princess of wales. She also intimated to friends that the queen had ordered her to give up the HRH title (a blatant lie). At that point the queen became furious and wrote an order in council stripping all divorcees of the title. Otherwise all ex-wives retain their titles but only as if the title was a name. So Diana was no longer "The Princess of Wales" but but "Princess of Wales" would appear as if it were her name. Upon remarriage, that would go too.

The queen and POW still considered her to be a member of the royal family but she was no longer representing the monarch so no HRH title. The recognition as princess was more to avoid embarrassing William than as a courtesy to Diana herself.  The Danish monarchy has similar conventions but it uses Highness instead of Royal Highness to distinguish members of the family from other princes.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 04, 2017, 01:57:59 PM
http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/12017020320901/princess-diana-new-cover-harpers-bazaar-uk/

I think the cover of the latest from Harpers Bazar might be the perfect photo to use as an inspiration for the statue.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Trudie on February 04, 2017, 03:05:13 PM
@TLLK I agree that picture of Diana in Harper's would be perfect also a Tiara could be added especially the Spencer Tiara as Diana was not just Princess of Wales in her how right she was The Lady Diana daughter of a Peer. I think a statue of her in a Tiara would be appropriate but the final decision will rest with William and Harry.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on February 04, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
She was married to the Prince of Wales and an HRH from 1981-1996. So much of her life she was in the royal family. I think a tiara would be appropriate and nothing wrong with a statue from the period where she was an HRH
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Trudie on February 04, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
@sandy that picture of Diana was first published in 1995 meaning Diana still had her HRH and was two years before her death. That would be a perfect model for a statue and as I said they could add the Spencer Tiara it shows Diana as she really was regal but humble and approachable.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: SophieChloe on February 04, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
So many beautiful pictures of Diana to chose from.  I wouldn't trump for an iconic one of her sitting outside the home where those two adulterers treated her so badly.

I adore these :

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.rbj0Y1Qp85b_9VIyv1XBLwDdEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Wh5-iWrASq3fPCg9A714LgDVEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.vqRn8WOwfyRP-nzIyp-7_wDaEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.8tNWhHM435lFY9gYmxXUIgDIEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mcfb4b833a7ddd2711a02ef573cdcc369o1&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on February 04, 2017, 05:24:04 PM
The Highgrove photo is actually quite nice although there are unpleasant memories there.  It was never really her home because Camilla chose, decorated and run it. As for tiaras, I have never liked the Spencer one. The lover's knot is better IMO and has some associations with royalty. Thinking about it I would also recommend her in the Elvis pearl dress with the lover's knot. Now that is an image of a princess that can never be beaten.

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@sandy. Here are the sad ones I meant. They are just really heartbreaking pictures. Glamour and tragedy in one:

diana-in-spencer-tiara.jpg : ?????????????????????????????? - NAVER ??? (https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2137934721210237901/2137934841111044403)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: SophieChloe on February 04, 2017, 05:48:11 PM
Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 04, 2017, 05:24:04 PM
The Highgrove photo is actually quite nice although there are unpleasant memories there.  It was never really her home because Camilla chose, decorated and run it.

I couldn't agree more x.

That  pic @royalanthropologist - that makes her look a victim - IMO.  She proved to be no such thing. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on February 04, 2017, 09:35:29 PM
 Those are excellent suggestions @SophieChloe  Of the ones you've shared this is my favorite because I do believe it would work well with either bronze or marble. https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.vqRn8WOwfyRP-nzIyp-7_wDaEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

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Quote from: Trudie on February 04, 2017, 03:05:13 PM
@TLLK I agree that picture of Diana in Harper's would be perfect also a Tiara could be added especially the Spencer Tiara as Diana was not just Princess of Wales in her how right she was The Lady Diana daughter of a Peer. I think a statue of her in a Tiara would be appropriate but the final decision will rest with William and Harry.
Yes I agree that the beautiful Spencer Tiara would be a lovely addition to that photo to use as a model.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on February 04, 2017, 11:59:59 PM
Actually maybe the boys were told by their mother early in the nineties what her favorite picture of herself was.

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Quote from: Trudie on February 04, 2017, 03:59:08 PM
@sandy that picture of Diana was first published in 1995 meaning Diana still had her HRH and was two years before her death. That would be a perfect model for a statue and as I said they could add the Spencer Tiara it shows Diana as she really was regal but humble and approachable.

I agree. I think definitely there should be a tiara with the statue.

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Quote from: royalanthropologist on February 04, 2017, 05:24:04 PM
The Highgrove photo is actually quite nice although there are unpleasant memories there.  It was never really her home because Camilla chose, decorated and run it. As for tiaras, I have never liked the Spencer one. The lover's knot is better IMO and has some associations with royalty. Thinking about it I would also recommend her in the Elvis pearl dress with the lover's knot. Now that is an image of a princess that can never be beaten.

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@sandy. Here are the sad ones I meant. They are just really heartbreaking pictures. Glamour and tragedy in one:

diana-in-spencer-tiara.jpg : ?????????????????????????????? - NAVER ??? (https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2137934721210237901/2137934841111044403)


Check out the Korea banquet 1992 photos, she had that same look.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on April 09, 2017, 12:22:09 AM
I don't know whether this is the right thread to put this (though I suppose docos are a sort of memorial) but William and Harry have apparently agreed to speak in detail about their memories of their mother in two upcoming documentaries for the twentieth anniversary.

Apparently they will speak for the first time of their remembrances of hearing of her death, of the funeral, public mourning etc.

I don't know how I feel about this uploading of past private grief for public consumption. However, it's always interesting to get a glimpse into private lives of the royals so I'll be watching.

Princes in two TV tributes to Diana, 20 years on | News | The Times & The Sunday Times (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/princes-in-two-tv-tributes-to-diana-20-years-on-t26kpml0v)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on April 09, 2017, 03:05:12 AM
Oh no the fountain was awful, ugly and a mistake. I think that a non statue memorial would be better..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on April 09, 2017, 09:02:29 AM
dot know why you think that Moncktor or the Spencers knew what they were doing.  It IS ugly, and IMO its nothing to do with Diana.  a statue would Have been better than that.. or a proper garden. I realy ont know why you feel that Will and Harry will be at all likely to criticse their father.  They love him and even if they didn't, or had issues, they're notl Likley to say so in public. THey know the score  as royals
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: royalanthropologist on April 09, 2017, 11:38:31 AM
I referenced the Spencers and Monckton because it was suggested by Diana fans that the problems with that project were designed by the royal family to diminish Diana's memory. As far as I can tell, no member of the royal family was involved. It was her friends and family who thought it was a fitting tribute.

As for William and Harry, I know that they would never intentionally annoy or criticize their father in public. But the press will try it on. Every sentence will be scrutinized for any hint of discord and if they land on any morsel, it will make the headlines in the DM and other rags. I am sure when Michael Jackson and Diana had just finished their interviews with Martin Bashir they thought it all went well...just until the interviews were screened and they realized how they had been exploited for a media scoop.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on April 14, 2017, 07:37:49 AM
has anyone seen pics of this new Diana Garden? I saw a picture and it looked MUCH too formal, with rigid rows of flowers nad it all seemed white.  I was very disappointed. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on April 14, 2017, 08:51:38 AM
I thought it looked wonderful, very serene and planted with Diana's favourite flowers, which were white. A lovely place for her children and grandchildren to sit and to walk I think.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 10, 2017, 07:23:12 PM
While this was not a physical monument to the late Princess of Wales, I'm glad to see that the BRF honored her wishes with this donation to a Bosnian man who had lost his feet to a  landmine during the civil war.
Royal family sent cash to land mine victim after Diana?s death | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/839616/Princess-Diana-Bosnia-landmine-victim-promise-Royal-family)

QuoteA few months after the iconic princess died in a tragic car crash, the family said they received a donation from the royal family, which was the exact amount promised by Diana

The donation allowed him to be fitted with prosthetic feet.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on August 10, 2017, 11:09:08 PM
^ That's a terrific gesture, and good on them for doing it. He is walking now because of the promise made by Diana.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 10, 2017, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: amabel on April 14, 2017, 07:37:49 AM
has anyone seen pics of this new Diana Garden? I saw a picture and it looked MUCH too formal, with rigid rows of flowers nad it all seemed white.  I was very disappointed. 
@amabel I saw it in person two weeks ago. When I saw it the garden looked less formal because it appears that some of the earlier more rigid flowers had died back and newer ones had now begun to bloom. 

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Quote from: Curryong on August 10, 2017, 11:09:08 PM
^ That's a terrific gesture, and good on them for doing it. He is walking now because of the promise made by Diana.
Yes it is and I'm pleased that they followed through on her promise to him.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Duch_Luver_4ever on August 11, 2017, 03:46:54 AM
When I saw the video of the archway, it reminded me of Highgrove in the 80s doc where Charles said he wanted to make one to grow beans on, and it made me feel so sad that while it has flowers that were her favorite, and she did enjoy the use of the KP garden, it just made me think of Charles,highgrove and unhappy times.

Perhaps if i saw more of it in the flesh it would be different.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on August 11, 2017, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: TLLK on August 10, 2017, 11:19:30 PM
@amabel I saw it in person two weeks ago. When I saw it the garden looked less formal because it appears that some of the earlier more rigid flowers had died back and newer ones had now begun to bloom. 

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Yes it is and I'm pleased that they followed through on her promise to him.
I haven't been to see it yet, on past performance memorials to her have been a disappointement.  but it might be nice next spring...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 23, 2017, 12:27:47 AM
Wednesday 30th August 2017

The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry will meet at Kensington Palace with representatives from charities supported by their mother Diana, Princess of Wales. The engagement will allow the Princes to pay tribute to the life and work of their mother the day before the 20th anniversary of her death.

https://www.facebook.com/majestymaga...93958017303528

Advanced notice of their upcoming joint engagement at KP. I like that Diana's former charities will be on hand including those that have been taken over by her children ie: Royal Marsden
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on August 23, 2017, 01:35:12 AM
I am very glad to see that the brothers are going to see the White Garden and also meet representatives of the charities that were so close to Diana's heart, and of course in many cases they have taken over. This will be a marvellous opportunity for them and William and Harry to reflect on the many lives Diana was able to change and brighten and give hope to.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on May 26, 2019, 09:24:41 PM
Update on the statue for KP gardens. As I suspected, the brothers have asked the sculptor to make some alterations (most likely of the model) before it is cast or sculpted.

Diana statue set to go on display in Kensington to commemorate 20 years since her death is delayed | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7070649/Diana-statue-set-display-Kensington-commemorate-20-years-death-delayed.html)

QuoteChanges that the Duke of Cambridge and Duke of Sussex are said to have made to the design of a statue of Princess Diana are delaying its completion and display in Kensington Gardens.

Two years ago, the brothers revealed that they had commissioned the statue of their mother for the public part of their then Palace home, to commemorate 20 years since her death in Paris in 1997.

Yesterday, a Kensington Palace spokesman told The Mail on Sunday: ?This is not a short-term project, this is a statue that will last for ever.

?It is about ensuring that this enduring monument is completely right.?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: LouisFerdinand on June 10, 2019, 11:14:29 PM
Do you think the statue of Diana will have her wearing a tiara?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 12, 2019, 04:09:23 AM
No. I don't believe that she'll be wearing a tiara or any formal wear. IMO it will be a more casual look.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on June 15, 2019, 07:51:48 AM
Quote from: TLLK on June 12, 2019, 04:09:23 AM
No. I don't believe that she'll be wearing a tiara or any formal wear. IMO it will be a more casual look.
probably.  I don't think its a good idea, but I'd say a more informal look is better than a stiffly royal look.  I would have preferred a good painting but somehow most paintings of Diana don't seem to capture her very well
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Princess Cassandra on June 25, 2019, 04:57:52 AM
I think it will convey the Princess communicating with the very young, the very old, or the very sick. She was so sincerely warm and loved them. One of her old bosses said that as a teenager she would volunteer to visit nursing homes. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on August 31, 2019, 03:22:20 AM
With regard to the KP statue I hope we get to see something in the next twelve months, and that it will be exquisite!

Today is the 22nd anniversary of Diana's death. God bless the Princess of Wales!

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on August 31, 2019, 05:05:05 PM
I thought it was supposed to be opened or displayed now at her anniversary?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on August 31, 2019, 05:24:56 PM
I don't think so. Maybe next spring perhaps.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 31, 2019, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: amabel on August 31, 2019, 05:05:05 PM
I thought it was supposed to be opened or displayed now at her anniversary?
I believe that it will be unveiled in 2019 as William stated on his mother's birthday that it would happen "very soon." If it were to be next year, he'd likely refered to a time in the further future.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on August 31, 2019, 09:23:45 PM
I doubt it is imminent. If it were there would be many articles picking up on William's "very soon." I doubt it is very soon.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 31, 2019, 09:37:04 PM
@sandy-Again we'll have to agree to disagree. :friends:

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However according to this Hello magazine article, the unveiling is to take place in 2019.

https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/02017121140783/princess-diana-statue-sculptor-revealed

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Quoterinces William and Harry have selected a sculptor to create a statue of their late mother Princess Diana. The royal brothers have chosen renowned artist Ian Rank-Broadley for the piece, known for his portrait of the Queen on British coins. The artwork is expected to be unveiled in 2019 within the grounds of Kensington Palace to mark the 20 year anniversary of Diana's tragic death.

I'm guessing that the date just has not been announced yet. I doubt that the brothers would have selected August 31 to unveil the statue and will choose a date that works for all that wish to attend ie: Sarah, Jane, Charles, perhaps some of Diana's charity representatives etc...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on August 31, 2019, 11:28:40 PM
Supposedly something is holding it up. This article is from 2017 and the key phrase is "expected to be."
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 31, 2019, 11:53:08 PM
I disagree @sandy as the projected date noted in the two separate articles that I shared (Hello/Harpers Bazaar) for the unveiling is 2019 and there are still four months remaining in 2019. So I believe that "expected to be" means that at this point in time that the statue will be unveiled before the end of the year. :happy:
I'm sure that many Diana fans will be pleased to see it and were happy to hear William's comment in July that the statue should be unveiled "very soon."

Princes William and Harry announce sculptor for new Diana statue - Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-royals-diana/princes-william-and-harry-announce-sculptor-for-new-diana-statue-idUSKBN1E400A)

QuoteIt had been hoped that the statue would be unveiled before the end of the year to mark the anniversary, but Kensington Palace said that it was now envisaged that the statue would be unveiled in 2019.

It would appear that the brothers have been in contact with the sculptor and felt confident enough to release the statement regarding the 2019 unveiling.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on August 31, 2019, 11:55:38 PM
THere were reports of delays in the statue this year (2019). I would not hold to 2019. If it were there would be more anticipatory articles. There certainly were for that Fountain, updates were frequently given and not just some throwaway line to a few people by PRince William. William did not make a public statement, he was talking to a group of people who talked to him about his mother. If he wants to avoid confusion then he and Harry should speak up and make a public statement to the media and that would be that. I would not plan a trip to the UK to see it based on Will's vague comment. If I wanted to see the dedication I would wait for a formal announcement.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 31, 2019, 11:56:39 PM
@sandy- I found this one but 2019 still seems reasonable IMHO. r. Would you mind sharing some of the other reports of the statue delay? I would really enjoy reading them. : :) Thank you.

https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/royals/princess-diana-statue-delayed-as-william-and-harry-try-to-get-it-right-24502224
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on September 01, 2019, 09:09:41 AM
Nothing much on TV about Diana yesterday. I Looked and I think there was only 1 programme...

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Quote from: TLLK on August 31, 2019, 11:53:08 PM
I disagree @sandy as the projected date noted in the two separate articles that I shared (Hello/Harpers Bazaar) for the unveiling is 2019 and there are still four months remaining in 2019. So I believe that "expected to be" means that at this point in time that the statue will be unveiled before the end of the year. :happy:
I'm sure that many Diana fans will be pleased to see it and were happy to hear William's comment in July that the statue should be unveiled "very soon."

Princes William and Harry announce sculptor for new Diana statue - Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-royals-diana/princes-william-and-harry-announce-sculptor-for-new-diana-statue-idUSKBN1E400A)

It would appear that the brothers have been in contact with the sculptor and felt confident enough to release the statement regarding the 2019 unveiling.
YOu  would think though that they would aim at  a summer time opening?  And now summer's pretty much ovr and there seems to be no sign of its happening..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on September 01, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
I think it would be either on her birthday or on the next anniversary, August 31.

There were tributes to Diana:

?22 years today:? Celebrities and fans honor Princess Diana more than 2 decades after her death | FOX6Now.com (https://fox6now.com/2019/08/31/22-years-today-celebrities-and-fans-honor-princess-diana-more-than-2-decades-after-her-death/)

And to TLK the Statue Delay:

https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/royals/princess-diana-statue-delayed-as-william-and-harry-try-to-get-it-right-24502224
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on September 01, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
@sandy-Thank you.

QuoteYOu  would think though that they would aim at  a summer time opening?  And now summer's pretty much ovr and there seems to be no sign of its happening..

@amabel-Yes I do believe that the brothers and Diana's siblings would have wanted an unveiling around her birthday, but with the requested modifications made by the brothers I don't believe that the sculptor could have delivered in that time.  Also Archie's christening was taking place close to Diana's birthday, so that might have had a possible impact on that as a date. So I believe that the event has been scheduled (but not publicly released yet) that will be in 2019 and that works for the various calendars for William, Harry, Sarah, Jane and Charles Spencer. :happy:

Have to say that I believe that Diana would have been alternately flattered and amused by the statue. More than likely I'd believe that she'd have a good giggle over it but would be pleased that her sons and siblings took the steps to make it happen.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 10, 2019, 04:50:44 PM
Royals do tend to retreat from duties at this time of year with the holidays coming. I know people in the UK and they talk about the bad weather.

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Quote from: Princess Cassandra on June 25, 2019, 04:57:52 AM
I think it will convey the Princess communicating with the very young, the very old, or the very sick. She was so sincerely warm and loved them. One of her old bosses said that as a teenager she would volunteer to visit nursing homes. 

I think a statue of her in less formal clothing  would be great, maybe one in an outfit she wore to visit a hospital. Or it could go the other way, where she is in formal outfit. Let's see.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 10, 2019, 05:25:44 PM
I have a feeling it will be in casual day wear (dress/skirt/blouse) but not slacks. Somehow I don't see it being in gala wear with orders and a tiara. I don't believe that is the way that the brothers want their mother to be remembered.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on December 10, 2019, 05:27:06 PM
So basically the complaint is 1. William and Harry are delaying it, translate that to the sculpture maker did a bad job, so they said, delayed we need to get it right. 2. public complaint is because the last update was July 2019, Diana's birthday anniversary vigil at KP gates.

@TLLK if the sculpture, as William pointed out to one of Diana's fan, the garden at KP, I believe and agree with you, a day time event.  They'd need floodlights if it were an evening do.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 10, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Maybe keeping this thread activated could inspire something. I think it should be dedicated on Diana's birthday.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 01:48:13 PM
This memorial to the late Diana, Princess of Wales is sometimes overlooked IMO, but it's well loved and enjoyed by many.

Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Playground named one of England?s best play spaces ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/interests/residences/diana-princess-of-wales-memorial-playground-named-one-of-englands-best-play-spaces-134816/) :xmas21:

QuoteIt?s a whimsical area of Kensington Gardens where pirate ships and imagination reign, and now the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Playground has been ranked as one of the country?s best playgrounds.

The playground, which is visited by more than one million people a year, is a favourite of children visiting London and was honoured for the ?quality and variety of play opportunities? at the first-ever Play Value Awards.

The awards ceremony was held at the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) Play Safety Conference 2019, held in Birmingham and attended by play safety experts and practitioners from across the United Kingdom. The Queen serves as patron of RoSPA, a role she?s held since her accession to the throne.

With its centrepiece of an enormous wooden pirate ship inspired by Peter Pan, the playground features a beach, sensory trail, tepees, and a variety of tactile objects for children to enjoy. The playground is free to enter and is managed by The Royal Parks.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
It seems the media are not even mentioning the statue anymore. Supposedly the statue was going to be a fitting tribute. Were Will and Harry not given permission or were they told to put it on hold?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
It seems the media are not even mentioning the statue anymore. Supposedly the statue was going to be a fitting tribute. Were Will and Harry not given permission or were they told to put it on hold?
Probably its not finished..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on December 17, 2019, 02:05:11 PM
The sculpture maker did the job, W and H didn't like it, hence delayed and W said 'we must get it right'.  Back to the board, more money expenditure because the finished job was rejected.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
It seems the media are not even mentioning the statue anymore. Supposedly the statue was going to be a fitting tribute. Were Will and Harry not given permission or were they told to put it on hold?
I doubt that anyone else was involved since they did the fundraising themselves. IMO there can be more than one "fitting tribute" to the late Diana, Princess of Wales.

The statue could already be finished, but they have not yet found a date in which the brothers, their families, the Spencers and others can be available.  :shrug:

In the meantime, there are other memorials to her which are being recognized. :nod:
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
Other royals have had statues.

Quote from: wannable on December 17, 2019, 02:05:11 PM
The sculpture maker did the job, W and H didn't like it, hence delayed and W said 'we must get it right'.  Back to the board, more money expenditure because the finished job was rejected.

This was months ago. Sculptors do have small prototypes where they work on the face. It should not take three years to get this done.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
either its not ready.. or they are not showing it for some reason.  they may prefer to wait till next summer, or for the Andrew mess to cool down..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
Other royals have had statues.

This was months ago. Sculptors do have small prototypes where they work on the face. It should not take three years to get this done.
@sandy-That depends on the material being used, if there are any mistakes in the casting and if your client doesn't like it then you have to start again.  Clearly the brothers were not happy  with the first rendition. They realize that there will be massive amounts of interest from the press and Diana's fans and wanted it redone. After that they have to find time in everyone's schedule to unveil it.  :shrug: Until that time there are other memorials to their late  mother that people can visit and enjoy. :happy:
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 03:28:07 PM
They made it sound like it would be imminent back in 2017. Maybe it was vetoed by the senior royals and Will and Harry are just keeping quiet. It should not take all those years to "get it right".
but what has it got to do with the "senior royals"? 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 04:02:01 PM
@sandy- Here is the original press release. They state that they'd convened a committee to raise funds and choose a design. In it the brothers also stated that they "hoped" it  would be ready by the end of 2017 but at the time when the press statement was made they couldn't advise as to when it would be unveiled

Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/825448623727050752)

From rereading the original statement, they hadn't even begun the fundraising.  That alone could explain delays. Also there is a committee to chose the design and approve it. More than one person is giving input on it.  Anyone on the committee could have stated they were not satisfied  with the prototypes and final version leading to more delays. Finally once the statue is done and approved it is finding the time for all involved to be present at the unveiling. With her sons, their spouses, possibly older children and the Spencers...that's a large group.

From what I can tell, QEII, the DoE, and the  PoW have turned over any and all memorials for the late Diana, Princess of Wales to her  sons. They are not involved at all IMO and would have no say in this project.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 04:09:14 PM
It was much the same with the Fountain.. except that that was a horrible disaster... but the same delays and problems..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 04:16:15 PM
No, the Fountain was not popular with all. Some did not see it as a "great" tribute to Diana.

By senior royals I mean C and C.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
I can't imagine what Charles and Camilla have to do with it..
And the Fountain was a pretty awful mess.. a waste of time effort and money.. I hope that the statue wotn be as bad... but I am not  a statue fan... so I fear the wrost...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
I can.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 04:48:38 PM
if you mean Charles and Camila, I can't imagine what they could or would do.  If the queen is Ok with the project in principle.. that is all that is required.  WIll and Harry have the responsibility fro memorialising their mother and if they wanted to do this, then once they have a general permission from the queen, I can't see who else would be concernered...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: dianab on December 17, 2019, 07:45:42 PM
from which i read the brothers dont agree what they want the statue looks like... probably the current state of their relationship have something (if not a lot) with the delay...

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Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 04:16:15 PM
No, the Fountain was not popular with all. Some did not see it as a "great" tribute to Diana.

By senior royals I mean C and C.
it wasnt great tribute to diana at all. if charles and camilla agree with that, they're right.

Charles and Camilla have nothing to do with statue issues here. especially camilla has no power in this family. i've never read about any windsor wanting to be involved with that...  it all is bussness of william and harry
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 08:25:00 PM
What do you thnk they can do?  WIll and Harry undertook this project and raised money.  THey commissioned the statue..  If the queen is Ok with the idea and the statue being on royal land, that's all the input that the RF would have.  if tehre are delays it may be down to the sculptor or to disagreements with the sculptor over what it looks like..  or there may be money issues.  But I canat understand what Charles and Camilla can do, if the queen is on board.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:25:13 PM
IMHO it was a case of being overly optimistic with the end of 2017 timeline considering that the press release acknowledged that the statue committee was not formed and fundraising had not begun. Going forward it would be far better to have both in place before trying to set an end  date for a project. More than one city planner or road engineer could have given them that advice!

I wouldn't be surprised if the committee is trying to avoid comparisons to the much panned Dodi and Diana statue that used to grace Harrods and now resides in Mr. Al Fayed's garden.

https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/02018041644370/princess-diana-dodi-memorial-removed-from-harrods

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
Diana's statue would be by itself. Dodi would not have a statue next to her. I don't see that as any excuse. I think people have forgotten that other statue which certainly was not authorized by William and Harry.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 08:28:07 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:25:13 PM
IMHO it was a case of being overly optimistic with the end of 2017 timeline considering that the press release acknowledged that the statue committee was not formed and fundraising had not begun. Going forward it would be far better to have both in place before trying to set an end  date for a project. More than one city planner or road engineer could have given them that advice!

I wouldn't be surprised if the committee is trying to avoid comparisons to the much panned Dodi and Diana statue that used to grace Harrods and now resides in Mr. Al Fayed's garden.

https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/02018041644370/princess-diana-dodi-memorial-removed-from-harrods
If they only started raising money in 2017, it was pretty silly to imagine it would be finished by the end of the year.  Probalby would have been better, to just say it was being planned and not indeed give an end date...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
@sandy-What I am saying is that likely the committee doesn't want it to resemble the Dodi/Diana statue. I never said that Dodi would be included in the statue.

'Tacky' statue of Diana and Dodi Fayed to be removed from Harrods | UK news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/13/tacky-statue-of-diana-and-dodi-fayed-to-be-removed-from-harrods)

Simple solution to that: Don't use the artist for Fayed statue.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 03:28:07 PM
They made it sound like it would be imminent back in 2017. Maybe it was vetoed by the senior royals and Will and Harry are just keeping quiet. It should not take all those years to "get it right".

If you reread that press release it referred to them being "hopeful" that the end of 2017 would see the statue completed. However it is noted that they hadn't formed a committee or started fundraising. Their timeline was overly optimistic and a bit naive IMHO.  :nod:
The "senior royals" had nothing to do with the project. :nod:


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Quote from: amabel on December 17, 2019, 08:28:07 PM
If they only started raising money in 2017, it was pretty silly to imagine it would be finished by the end of the year.  Probalby would have been better, to just say it was being planned and not indeed give an end date...
Exactly! Oh well...live and learn.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:29:18 PM
Simple solution to that: Don't use the artist for Fayed statue.
Sicne it will be a statue of Diana.. it is very likely that comparisons will be made...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:35:16 PM
I don't even remember what that statue looked like. And Diana's statue would have to resemble Diana which is the important thing not the Fayed statue which should not mean a statue of Diana should never happen again.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:36:18 PM
@sandy-Click on this link and you'll see it in its glory.

'Tacky' statue of Diana and Dodi Fayed to be removed from Harrods | UK news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/13/tacky-statue-of-diana-and-dodi-fayed-to-be-removed-from-harrods)

QuoteWhen the statue was unveiled, Fayed said it was a more ?fitting tribute? to Diana than the official memorial fountain in Hyde Park that he described as a ?sewer?.

The Harrods statue shows Diana in a low-cut dress with a slit up to the thigh and Dodi in an open shirt. The couple are shown dancing in Mediterranean waves beneath the wings of an albatross, which supposedly symbolised freedom and eternity.

?I have named the sculpture Innocent Victims, because for eight years I have fought to prove that my son and Princess Diana were murdered,? Fayed said in 2005.

?This is a statue to stay here for ever. Until now nothing has been done to preserve her memory and legacy. She was an amazing woman who brought joy to the whole world.?

The statue was designed by Harrods artistic design adviser Bill Mitchell, who had worked for the Fayed family for more than 40 years.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: dianab on December 17, 2019, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:16:27 PM
Camilla may not have power but she has influence with Charles. Both want to bask in their PR spin and not have the "inconvenient" past come back to bite them. I remember Camilla wanted to go to Diana's Memorial Service as if they were best buddies while Diana was alive. The public really got super critical.
they (charles and camilla) cant stop the docs that william and harry wanted honor their mother. they cant stop the fountain project and nor were they behind the project... they also cant stop the diana concert in 2007.... after was annoucend this statue project there's nothing chales can do to stop that.

to me, the harrods statue or charles and camilla have nothing to do with the delay... but the bad relations between the brothers in all likelihood yes
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2019, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:36:18 PM
@sandy-Click on this link and you'll see it in its glory.

'Tacky' statue of Diana and Dodi Fayed to be removed from Harrods | UK news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/13/tacky-statue-of-diana-and-dodi-fayed-to-be-removed-from-harrods)


Fayed could have 100 statues but it should not prevent another one being built Diana is the subject of his statue but why should it mean that it can't happen because people "remember" the Fayed Statue. Dodi is part of it and would not be of the Diana statue.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:50:02 PM
@sandy-Why do you believe that would have any  impact on the statue the Wales brothers are having created for their mother? As long as the committee members are in agreement, than it should be fine. I'm just hoping that it's a far better representation of Diana than the one hastily commissioned by Mr. Al Fayed. :censored2:
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 08:51:10 PM
I think that there probably were fears that it would resemble the Fayed Statue and H and Will are trying to ensure that it does not do so...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:58:32 PM
@amabel-I agree. IMO cast metal statues can look a bit "creepy" to me and I believe that the statue committee are trying to avoid any possible resemblance to the Al Fayed "Innocent Victims" statue.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 17, 2019, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 17, 2019, 08:58:32 PM
@amabel-I agree. IMO cast metal statues can look a bit "creepy" to me and I believe that the statue committee are trying to avoid any possible resemblance to the Al Fayed "Innocent Victims" statue.
I DId see it years ago at harrods but I don't quite remember it.. But it was generaly considered horrible.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 18, 2019, 12:05:35 AM
@sandy-I believe that you've missed the point that the committee in charge of the Diana stature most likely do not want it to turn out as badly as the one commissioned by Mr. Al Fayed. :nod: More than likely they don't want the words "garish" and "tacky" linked with it like the one that was so prominently featured in Harrods. Taking the time to "get it right" instead of hastily accepting one that was not a good likeness or representation of the late Diana, Princess of Wales would be a wiser choice.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 18, 2019, 12:47:00 AM
QuoteI don't see why a COmmittee would go for "tack". These Committee members would know of the best artists and work with them. I did not miss the point.
Okay...just didn't understand why your earlier posts.
Yes this is why the committee opted to go with a well known sculptor.

Quote
I don't think there would be a bad likeness of Diana. I have seen lovely portraits of her done by painters and they were not tacky
Keep in mind that sculpting/casting is a very different medium than painted portraits. The sculpture will be three dimensional, unlike a painting.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 18, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
and Diana's portraits never seemed to capture her very well either.  I think that she was such a vibrant person that the only medium that could capture her was film..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 18, 2019, 01:34:33 PM
Quote from: sandy on December 18, 2019, 01:30:32 PM
So I am wondering,are you saying you don't want a statue of Diana because it's too "difficult"? Just asking.

I don't see a problem. Perhaps not everybody could capture the likeness of the Queen Mum but one was found that did an excellent job and captured her spirit via the statue (see my link in an earlier post)l
I dotn think it suits Diana.. and I dotn generally like statues. I associate them with miiltiary leaders of the past.  I don't think they capture Diana who was a beautiful young woman whose charm was in her looks -. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2019, 01:59:51 PM
I think Diana should have a statue. The Queen Mum had a lot of charm and it was captured in the statue. Diana as the mother of a future King deserves that statue. She has every right to one IMO.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 18, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: amabel on December 18, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
and Diana's portraits never seemed to capture her very well either.  I think that she was such a vibrant person that the only medium that could capture her was film..
I have to agree and fortunately the camera loved her. IMHO it was the only medium that captured all of the changing expressions on her face  as she could be  very animated when talking with people.
Hopefully once the changes have been made, we'll see the statue unveiling scheduled in 2020.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: amabel on December 18, 2019, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: TLLK on December 18, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
I have to agree and fortunately the camera loved her. IMHO it was the only medium that captured all of the changing expressions on her face  as she could be  very animated when talking with people.
Hopefully once the changes have been made, we'll see the statue unveiling scheduled in 2020.
She also looked well in photos.. that's what I associate her with, the cameras, the colour of photography, the movement of film. Not some statue which is for old men...
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2019, 02:18:27 PM
If it's for Old Men, there must be some exceptions because there are statues of Females. Including the Queen Mother and Queen Victoria.

Diana needs a statue. As befitting the mother of a future King.  IMO.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on December 18, 2019, 02:34:49 PM
I know that there were concerns that a senior royal was somehow behind the statue's delay. HM the Queen is  the most senior of the family and supports the creation of  the statue.

Princess Diana: Princes commission statue 20 years after her death - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38785218)

QuoteThe Queen has said she "supports" her grandchildren commemorating Princess Diana.

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Here is the homepage of the chosen sculptor Ian Rank-Broadley

Home - Ian Rank-Broadley (http://www.ianrank-broadley.co.uk/)

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Here is an additional link to his large sculpture work.

Large Sculpture Archives - Ian Rank-Broadley (http://www.ianrank-broadley.co.uk/works/large-sculpture/)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 01, 2020, 02:21:35 PM
August 2017, 20th anniversary of Diana, Princess of Wales

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Matters were further complicated by plans for a 2017 ceremony at Althorp, the Spencer family home in Northamptonshire, to commemorate Princess Diana 20 years after her death.
William and Earl Spencer had organised the private service, con-ducted by the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, for close family, including Diana's sisters. William wanted Prince George, then four, and Princess Charlotte, two, to attend.
By this point, Harry had already discussed marriage with Meghan and he wanted her to be with him. She travelled from Canada to Britain to be there but did not, in fact, attend. At the time, it was explained that her presence was not considered 'appropriate'.
An upset Harry told Meghan of his family's 'warnings' and a very definite sense of 'us against the world' became entrenched.

Source: Emily Andrews, Royal Reporter, Mail on Sunday Re: Mark Dyer peace keeper
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Princess Cassandra on June 01, 2020, 10:11:54 PM
Upon reading this excerpt and the article in its entirety, I'm beginning to see that Harry is very sensitive and possibly a "Harry Hotspur".  Since she wasn't officially an intended bride or a member of the family it wouldn't have been appropriate for her to attend. If he is that sensitive, it is strange that there wasn't a huge misunderstanding until then.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 01, 2020, 11:41:51 PM
IF this is all completely true (and I doubt it myself) why wasn't Harry consulted about the Diana Memorial Service? Why was it all William's responsibility? After all, Harry is Charles Spencer's nephew just as much as William is? And Diana's son!

And who is this 'family' that warned Harry off bringing his future wife to this very private service. (After all these relatives must have known that his romance with Meghan was serious. They became engaged in the November and it was then August. Under three months away!) This family almost certainly means his brother William. If that's so then that action could well be considered mean-spirited.

The service wasn't televised and few knew about it in advance. So one sibling laying down the law about one extra seating arrangement caused the seeds of a future estrangement, laid after a supposed earlier warning from William about 'rushing into things', that had apparently occurred months earlier.

Most families, knowing that someone had flown in from Canada, would have said 'Fine, let her come' (and I think that would have included Harry's uncle and aunts. But not apparently his brother.)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on July 29, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Here is the most recent article (May 2020) that I could find regarding the proposed statue. Unfortunately there is no new information on the statue's progress and when it might be completed.

Unfinished Princess Diana statue William Harry feud | Tatler (https://www.tatler.com/article/unfinished-princess-diana-statue-william-harry-feud)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: QueenAlex on July 30, 2020, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: TLLK on July 29, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Here is the most recent article (May 2020) that I could find regarding the proposed statue. Unfortunately there is no new information on the statue's progress and when it might be completed.

Unfinished Princess Diana statue William Harry feud | Tatler (https://www.tatler.com/article/unfinished-princess-diana-statue-william-harry-feud)

It does seem to be on hold.  Of course there's also Covid.. and harry even fi they are not on bad terms is in the USA...I dont know, it seems as if this was a doomed project..
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on August 28, 2020, 10:21:28 AM
The statue that Prince William and Prince Harry have commissioned to commemorate their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, will be installed next year on what would have been her 60th Birthday.

The statue will be installed in the Sunken Garden of Kensington Palace on 1st July 2021, marking her 60th birthday. The Princes hope that the statue will help all those who visit Kensington Palace to reflect on their mothers life and her legacy @KensingtonRoyal
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 28, 2020, 01:30:26 PM
@PrincessOfPeace - Thank you for sharing this long awaited update on when and where the statue will be installed. Hopefully by then the impact of the COVID 19 epidemic will be lessened so visitors will be able to view it with ease.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on August 28, 2020, 01:34:12 PM
I think the delays actually is a benefit, improved version and a milestone 60 years old.

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Rebecca English posted/scanned the email from the respective offices of Prince William (KP) and Prince Harry (SS)

Twitter (https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1299297730087526400/photo/1)

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on August 28, 2020, 10:40:03 PM
At last! We longterm Diana followers have been wondering for ages what has been happening with this statue. Now, at least there is a firm commitment. I shall be very interested to see what it looks like.

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Incidentally, according to Kenneth Rose diaries several members of the BRF were vehemently opposed to any memorial to Diana in Kensington Gardens (or indeed anywhere.) Rose himself wrote about a 'theme park' to 'salve Charles's conscience' disturbing the peace of the Gardens. 

Princess Diana memorial: Royal family opposed Kensington Gardens fountain (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/dissing-diana-even-in-death-how-royal-family-fought-princess-from-beyond-the-grave/news-story/c3d6a7c11c0bfa011c9f3b9d535d954f)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on August 29, 2020, 02:13:49 AM
Prince William and Prince Harry offer update on Princess Diana statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8673665/Prince-William-Prince-Harry-offer-update-Princess-Diana-statue.html)

Prince William and Prince Harry Statement Princess Diana Statue | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-william-prince-harry-announce-princess-diana-statue/)

Prince William and Prince Harry unite for rare joint statement ahead of Princess Diana milestone | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020082896204/prince-harry-prince-william-princess-diana-milestone-speech/)

Princes William & Harry reveal that a statue of their mother will be installed on her 60th birthday in 2021 ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princes-william-harry-reveal-that-a-statue-of-their-mother-will-be-installed-on-her-60th-birthday-in-2021-147842/)

Princess Diana statue to be installed to mark her 60th birthday - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53947508)

William and Harry should be reunited to witness the moment their mother?s legacy is set in stone (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/08/28/william-harry-should-reunited-witness-moment-mothers-legacy/)

Princess Diana statue commissioned by William and Harry to be installed on her 60th birthday | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/princess-diana-statue-commissioned-by-william-and-harry-to-be-installed-on-her-60th-birthday-12058394)

Prince Harry and Prince William issue rare joint statement over Princess Diana's legacy | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1328541/Princess-Diana-statue-latest-Prince-William-Prince-Harry-commission-statue-60th-birthday)

Statue of Diana to be installed on her 60th birthday | ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2020-08-28/statue-of-diana-to-be-installed-on-her-60th-birthday)

Hope Princess Diana will reunite William and Harry from beyond grave as brothers talk - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hope-princess-diana-reunite-william-22595463)

Ingrid Seward: Diana brought William and Harry together as boys and is doing it again - Ingrid Seward - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ingrid-seward-diana-brought-william-22595632)

Princes William and Harry release rare joint statement on Princess Diana's legacy - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-princes-william-harry-commission-22592397)

Will Diana statue heal bitter rift between Harry and William? (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12528798/harry-william-rift-diana-statue/)



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Statue of Princess Diana coming to Kensington Palace on what would be her 60th birthday | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/statue-princess-diana-coming-kensington-palace-60th-birthday-72676726)

Prince Harry and Prince William commissioned a Princess Diana statue that will be installed on meaningful date - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-william-princess-diana-statue/)

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: QueenAlex on August 29, 2020, 10:45:50 AM
Im not surprised that the RF weren't too keen on a memorial to Diana in Kensington.. and when the fountain happened, I abandoned hope that anyone would come up with a good memorial. It was just awful... Althrop would have been a good /better place but i fear that Charles Spencer commercialized it with his exhibition.
I hoep the statue will happen on time, but I think it would be better indoors.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on August 29, 2020, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: QueenAlex on August 29, 2020, 10:45:50 AM
Im not surprised that the RF weren't too keen on a memorial to Diana in Kensington.. and when the fountain happened, I abandoned hope that anyone would come up with a good memorial. It was just awful... Althrop would have been a good /better place but i fear that Charles Spencer commercialized it with his exhibition.
I hoep the statue will happen on time, but I think it would be better indoors.

William and Harry makes decision to setup the statues next year on his mom?s 60th birthday at Kensington Palace not althorp but Princess Diana fans wanted see the statues at Kensington Palace than althorp last time Diana?s exhibition was in 1998 one years after Diana?s death but William and Harry makes decisions is final to setup at Kensington Palace when William and Harry to honor their mom?s 20th death anniversary was in 2017 was white flowers I?m understand what William and Harry wanted for his mom?s statues at Kensington Palace to remind of his mom?s memories.. Like any royal statues same Queen Elizabeth II,King George VI and Queen Mother

Meghan Markle & Prince Harry likely to ?spend next summer in the UK? for Diana statue unveiling, expert claims (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/12530766/meghan-markle-prince-harry-uk-return-next-summer-diana-statue/)



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Meghan Markle and Prince Harry 'could spend extended period of time in UK next year' - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-could-22597964)
Unveiling statues on Diana?s birthday next year July 1,2021

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will spend 'an extended period of time in the UK next year' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8676417/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-spend-extended-period-time-UK-year.html)
Duke of Sussex told rugby league club 125th birthday on zoom quiz he vows for trooping color and statues of his mom?s birthday

Prince Harry reveals when he will finally return to the UK | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020082996254/prince-harry-reveals-return-date-uk/)
Waiting confirmation from Harry and Meghan plus Palace and Clarence House for Harry?s return but Harry and Meghan will stay in UK March till July 2021 i dont know when date will be stay tuned

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's plan to return to UK next year exposed with exact dates | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1328922/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-royal-return-Diana-UK-latest-news)



Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on August 30, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
I could see the Sussexes coming for an extended visit during June/July especially since the DoE will be celebrating his 100th birthday in June 2021. The couple would likely visit their UK based patronages/charities as well. As for the typical June royal activities: Trooping, Ascot, Garter etc...we'll just have to wait and see. The unveiling ceremony would also be organized based on what is happening  with COVID 19. It could be a full scale event or it might be one with limited participation.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on August 30, 2020, 02:19:46 PM
Quote from: TLLK on August 30, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
I could see the Sussexes coming for an extended visit during June/July especially since the DoE will be celebrating his 100th birthday in June 2021. The couple would likely visit their UK based patronages/charities as well. As for the typical June royal activities: Trooping, Ascot, Garter etc...we'll just have to wait and see. The unveiling ceremony would also be organized based on what is happening  with COVID 19. It could be a full scale event or it might be one with limited participation.

I?m agreed with you
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: QueenAlex on August 30, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: TLLK on August 30, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
I could see the Sussexes coming for an extended visit during June/July especially since the DoE will be celebrating his 100th birthday in June 2021. The couple would likely visit their UK based patronages/charities as well. As for the typical June royal activities: Trooping, Ascot, Garter etc...we'll just have to wait and see. The unveiling ceremony would also be organized based on what is happening  with COVID 19. It could be a full scale event or it might be one with limited participation.
I think its very possible that next year, Philp wont be attending any of these things as he's so old now and I dont think that Covid will be gone away.. social distancing will still be necessary esp for people of the queen's age.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on August 31, 2020, 03:30:56 PM
The new statue of Diana may bring William and Harry back together ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-new-statue-of-diana-may-bring-william-and-harry-back-together-148031/)

Will Diana, Princess of Wales?s statue change the future of royal sculptures? ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/will-diana-princess-of-waless-statue-change-the-future-of-royal-sculptures-147998/)
Waiting till unveiling sculpture of late Diana,Princess of Wales on July 1,2021 kept zipit till reveal next year dont say anything about that 🤫🤐

Royal Central Articles says include past to present of royal statues of Elizabeth I,Charles II,GeorgeV,George VI,HM Queen Elizabeth II,Queen Victoria and late Queen Mother

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on October 15, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
From the Vanity Fair, Katie Nichole article posted in Sussex board/Chapter 3 thread re: Sussex Montecito Christmas, January MM court hearing/stand.

This quote belongs here for those royal watchers, we've been waiting for this alleged date.

Quote
The couple will also be back in the UK next summer and reunited with William and Kate for the July 1 unveiling of the statue of Princess Diana, which will stand in the gardens of Kensington Palace.

The quote is available in the link, last paragraph/conclusion of article.
Harry and Meghan Will Return to the UK For Court, But Not For Christmas | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/10/prince-harry-meghan-markle-return-to-uk)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: LouisFerdinand on October 15, 2020, 10:41:56 PM
It is nice that the statue will be unveiled on July 1st, which is Princess Diana's birthday. Did Princes William and Harry decide this?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on October 15, 2020, 10:57:59 PM
Yes I believe that the brothers along with the relevant parties ie: the sculptor and those on the committee agreed to the July 1, 2021 date.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Amabel2 on October 18, 2020, 08:14:22 AM
Quote from: TLLK on October 15, 2020, 10:57:59 PM
Yes I believe that the brothers along with the relevant parties ie: the sculptor and those on the committee agreed to the July 1, 2021 date.
obviously it was out of the question to do the ceremony this year, So a summer date related to Diana like her birthday next year is the best bet.  and hopefully Covid will be conquered, though Im not too sure it will be by then.
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Post by: TLLK on March 12, 2021, 02:57:57 PM
Prince William and Prince Harry to put on a ?united front? when they meet at the unveiling of their mother?s statue in the summer ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/prince-william-and-prince-harry-to-put-on-a-united-front-when-they-meet-at-the-unveiling-of-their-mothers-statue-in-the-summer-157073/)

QuoteThe Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Sussex will ?put on a united front? when they meet in the summer for the unveiling of a statue of their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

According to the Daily Mirror, the brothers will stand ?shoulder to shoulder? at the event to be held at Kensington Palace on July 1st marking what would have been their mother?s 60th birthday.

Diana?s statue will be erected in the White Garden, previously known as the Sunken Garden, in the palace grounds.

Diana?s died almost 24 years ago after being involved in a car crash in Paris in 1997. At the time, William was 15 and Harry only 12. Since then, they have always tried to keep Diana?s legacy alive and have shared an extremely strong bond until a couple of years ago when the brothers? relationship became strained and caused them to drift apart.

On Thursday, Prince William revealed that he had not yet spoken to his brother following his interview with Oprah Winfrey alongside Meghan.

The Princes originally commissioned this special anniversary statue in remembrance of their mother in 2017; it is being created by well known British artist Ian Rank-Broadley who has worked in St. Paul?s Cathedral, The British Museum and also designed the portrait of The Queen which is found on all British coins to mark the 20th anniversary of Diana?s death.

At the time of the commission, Princes William and Harry said they hope that the statue will inspire all visitors to Kensington Palace to ?reflect on her life and her legacy,? adding: ?Our mother touched so many lives.?
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Post by: TLLK on March 27, 2021, 02:38:48 PM
 The Planning Commission gives approval for the installation of the statue.  :thumbsup:

EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: Prince William and Harry will both attend unveiling of Princess Diana's statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9408473/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-Statue-Princess-Diana-built-former-home-Kensington-Palace.html)

QuotePlanners at the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea approved plans even though they have no idea of what it would look like. They were not given any images of the proposed statue but just its dimensions and location.

?The palace would like to erect a new statue but does not wish to give final details at this stage,? one report said.

?I am satisfied that even if a plain block of bronze of the dimensions given were erected, this would still not harm the views of the palace. I don?t think it is our role to get involved in artistic design.?

No one complained about the plans and Historic England said the proposal would not have an adverse effect on the Grade I-listed Kensington Palace.

The statue is being created by Ian Rank-Broadley, whose portrait of the Queen appears on all British coins. Jane Siddell, inspector of Ancient Monuments for Historic England, wrote: ?The proposed art installation is located within the Sunken Garden, an early 20th century element of the gardens located a little way from the east front of the Palace.

?The location has been carefully chosen, with the statue to be located off-centre on one of the paths within the garden, close to an opening in the hedges.

?It will be visible to the public viewing the garden, but the statue will not impinge upon views of, or from the Palace owing to its slightly sunken and screened position.

?There is a tradition of statues being installed in Kensington Gardens and around Kensington Palace, for instance the statue of King William III to the south of the palace, and Queen Victoria by the Round Pond, and the proposed installation follows that tradition.?
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on May 09, 2021, 02:11:00 PM
This originally in The Sun.

Prince William and Prince Harry INSIST to give separate speeches when they unveil the Diana statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9558739/Prince-William-Prince-Harry-INSIST-separate-speeches-unveil-Diana-statue.html)
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Post by: Macrobug67 on May 09, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
That's a silly article.  Of course they will both give a speech and it will be separate.  They aren't about to give a speech in unison.   Media stirring.
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Post by: wannable on May 09, 2021, 03:11:12 PM
I don't find it silly, the brothers have given all their lives 'unison' speech when doing the ''same'' thing/together.  The obvious is that since they are in odds, a separated rather than unison is an educated guess.
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Post by: TLLK on May 09, 2021, 05:02:16 PM
Looking forward to seeing the final reveal of this statue to Diana, Princess of Wales.
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Post by: wannable on May 17, 2021, 09:05:12 PM
American Media Inc., Radar Online claim

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Prince Harry Demands Meghan Markle Be Officially Part Of His Mother Princess Diana's 60th Birthday Tribute Or He Won't Show
?Harry is demanding the Meghan be part of the official ceremony. She will not be able to attend in person because of the couple's second child, but Harry is pushing to have comments prepared by Meghan included in the event or a video message featuring his wife released to the media the same day the brothers unveil the statue,? sources tell Radar.

Prince Harry Demands Meghan Markle Be Officially Part Of His Mother Princess Diana's 60th Birthday Tribute (https://radaronline.com/p/prince-harry-meghan-markle-princess-diana-60-birthday-tribute/)
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Post by: TLLK on May 17, 2021, 10:55:10 PM
Well I hope that this is simply speculation and not what Prince Harry is actually demanding. IMHO it would be more appropriate to hear from Diana's siblings if we're to have speeches from anyone other than her sons.
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Post by: Curryong on May 17, 2021, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: TLLK on May 17, 2021, 10:55:10 PM
Well I hope that this is simply speculation and not what Prince Harry is actually demanding. IMHO it would be more appropriate to hear from Diana's siblings if we're to have speeches from anyone other than her sons.

This article quotes Radar as the original source for its story. If I?m not mistaken RadarOnline is one of the most notorious gossip websites online, constantly spreading lies about everyone, and what it knows about what is really going on could be written on the back of a postage stamp.
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Post by: sara8150 on May 19, 2021, 02:39:15 PM
'How does he face his family?' Harry 'absolutely' plans to join Diana statue unveiling | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9594617/How-does-face-family-Harry-absolutely-plans-join-Diana-statue-unveiling.html)

Kate Middleton 'may step in to attend unveiling of Diana statue next month if Harry cannot attend' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9656861/Kate-Middleton-step-attend-unveiling-Diana-statue-month-Harry-attend.html)

Kate Middleton may ?step in? to replace Harry at Diana?s statue event to support William | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1446040/kate-middleton-news-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-prince-William-prince-harry-ont)

Kate Middleton may fill in for Diana statue unveiling if Prince Harry can't make event - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-fill-diana-statue-24260026)

Prince Harry will return to UK next month after birth of second child | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210608114900/prince-harry-return-to-uk-after-baby-lilibet-birth/)
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Post by: sara8150 on June 08, 2021, 02:55:44 PM
Prince Harry will return to UK next month after birth of second child | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210608114900/prince-harry-return-to-uk-after-baby-lilibet-birth/)

Prince Harry 'flying in and out on same day' for Diana statue unveiling in UK return | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1447029/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-uk-return-diana-statue-royal-family-latest-vn)

Prince Harry set for UK return in weeks to stand shoulder to shoulder with William - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/harry-attending-diana-statue-unveiling-24269614)

Queen 'invites Harry to lunch' as olive branch after birth of namesake daughter - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-invites-harry-lunch-olive-24269642)

Prince Harry WON'T snub Diana statue unveiling ? new showdown looms | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1446886/prince-harry-latest-news-diana-statue-UK-return-william-meghan-markle-baby-lilibet-updates)

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Post by: Curryong on June 08, 2021, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: sara8150 on June 08, 2021, 02:55:44 PM
Prince Harry will return to UK next month after birth of second child | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210608114900/prince-harry-return-to-uk-after-baby-lilibet-birth/)

Good. It will be great to see Harry in the UK again. He?s probably going to have to isolate again though, maybe at FC. I?ve got a feeling that Meghan and the children may well come over before the end of the year.
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Post by: sara8150 on June 08, 2021, 03:36:08 PM
Quote from: Curryong on June 08, 2021, 03:14:32 PM
Good. It will be great to see Harry in the UK again. He?s probably going to have to isolate again though, maybe at FC. I?ve got a feeling that Meghan and the children may well come over before the end of the year.

I don?t think so Meghan and kids stay home and Harry will go alone same he went funeral to Duke of Edinburgh?s last April we have wait and see till confirmed from Palace and Clarence House 🙏🏻🤞🏻
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Post by: sara8150 on June 15, 2021, 06:38:00 PM
Meghan Markle will support Prince Harry at the unveiling of Princess Diana's statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9691889/Meghan-Markle-support-Prince-Harry-unveiling-Princess-Dianas-statue.html)

Prince William could ?take ownership of his mother's legacy? at Diana statue unveiling | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1450391/prince-william-news-princess-diana-statue-ceremony-date-royal-family-updates-ont)

Meghan Markle will NOT return to UK for Princess Diana statue unveiling says royal expert | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1450384/meghan-markle-news-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-date-royal-family-ont)

Meghan Markle 'WILL make surprise return to UK' says source - but insider shuts down claim | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1450546/meghan-markle-attend-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-prince-harry-megxit-royal-family-news)

Meghan Markle 'to be secret guest' as Princess Diana statue is unveiled in London - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-to-secret-guest-24328033)

Meghan Markle will not return to UK as Harry flies home to reunite with William - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-meghan-markle-not-return-24332939)

Meghan Markle WON'T come to the UK for Princess Diana statue reveal after Lilibet's birth, royal expert says (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15284691/meghan-wont-uk-diana-statue-lilibet-birth-royal/)
Duchess of Sussex and kids stay home and Harry going alone travel to UK

Meghan Markle WON'T fly to UK to support Harry at Diana memorial and will stay in US with Archie and Lilibet (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15292357/meghan-markle-stay-us-prince-harry-diana-statue/)

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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on June 16, 2021, 05:48:09 PM
Meghan will not fly to the UK to join Harry for the unveiling of a statue of his late mother Princess Diana on July 1st, a source confirmed after a US website claimed she would be attending.

- ITV
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 16, 2021, 06:18:02 PM
No, I dont think she'll come.  Is it even a sure thing that Harry will come?
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Post by: sara8150 on June 16, 2021, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 16, 2021, 06:18:02 PM
No, I dont think she'll come.  Is it even a sure thing that Harry will come?

Duke of Sussex going alone to UK and Meghan stay home with kids in USA same Harry did flying to UK last April for funeral service of his grandfather the Duke of Edinburgh 
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 16, 2021, 09:02:00 PM
Has there been an announcement from Harry to this effect?
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Post by: TLLK on June 16, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
As far as I know there has been no official confirmation from the Sussex family as to who may or may not be attending.
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 17, 2021, 07:14:14 AM
Quote from: TLLK on June 16, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
As far as I know there has been no official confirmation from the Sussex family as to who may or may not be attending.
Its only a few weeks to go, so it seems odd that the Spencer family or William have nt made any announcement what is happening.  Mabye they are postponing it?  Maybe the Harry situation is not resolved and they dont know if he's coming?
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Post by: Curryong on June 17, 2021, 07:55:08 AM
I expect the unveiling of the statue of Diana to be going ahead, and that Harry will be in London for it. If he wasn?t coming or the ceremony was postponed the RR?s would have been briefed about it or there would at least have been leaks from KP for the tabloids to chew over.

The last time I saw Camilla Tominey speak on Sunrise here about royal matters like the Queen meeting the G7 leaders she mentioned the statue unveiling and Harry going to be on his own as Meghan has her newborn. She said it would just be the two brothers.

There doesn?t have to be huge announcements about the unveiling more than a fortnight in advance. There will be more than enough to discuss when Harry arrives a few days before. He?s been vaccinated by now for sure, and William has, so (bar some crisis with baby Lili) everything will be going ahead.
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 17, 2021, 08:08:17 AM
I hope they can have it soon, its been waiting so long.. but if Harry has to spend time in quarantine again, its a bit of a nusiance.. and possibly I thougt they might put it off till late summer. but I never expected Meghan to come.
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Post by: TLLK on June 17, 2021, 01:00:11 PM
I believe that closer to the event that the information will be released. The G7 and Ascot related royal activities have taken precedence over the statue unveiling for now.
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Post by: Princess Cassandra on June 17, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 17, 2021, 08:08:17 AM
I hope they can have it soon, its been waiting so long.. but if Harry has to spend time in quarantine again, its a bit of a nusiance.. and possibly I thougt they might put it off till late summer. but I never expected Meghan to come.
I never expected her to come, either.  However, having a young baby didn't stop her from crossing the Atlantic to support her friend in a tennis match.  I thought that was not the right thing to do, and I think it's better that she stays home with both children now. 
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 17, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
I think its probably better if she doesn't come.  Travel is still not back to normal, and she'd have to isolate and its a long way to bring two small children.  Besides I dont believe she woud really want to coem to the UK. 
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Post by: sara8150 on June 17, 2021, 10:17:50 PM
Meghan Markle urged not to attend unveiling of Diana statue with Prince Harry | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1451373/meghan-markle-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-latest-uk-return)

POLL: Should Meghan Markle attend unveiling of Diana statue with Prince Harry? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1450974/meghan-markle-attend-statue-unveiling-princess-diana-prince-harry-return-UK)
My answer says NO!!

Meghan will NOT come back to England for unveiling of Diana statue | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1450950/meghan-markle-prince-harry-statue-diana-unveiling)

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Post by: Amabel2 on June 18, 2021, 06:52:46 AM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on June 17, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
I never expected her to come, either.  However, having a young baby didn't stop her from crossing the Atlantic to support her friend in a tennis match.  I thought that was not the right thing to do, and I think it's better that she stays home with both children now.

I dont think it would be very comfortable for anyone. I think that even Harry coming may well detract from the focus on Diana, and according to himself, Im not sure h e'll be al that happy travelling to the UK.  but I think he shold come.  However, Meghan I think would  really take the focus off the Diana statue and I think she wont come and things would be uncomfortable if she did.
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Post by: sara8150 on June 18, 2021, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 18, 2021, 06:52:46 AM
I dont think it would be very comfortable for anyone. I think that even Harry coming may well detract from the focus on Diana, and according to himself, Im not sure h e'll be al that happy travelling to the UK.  but I think he shold come.  However, Meghan I think would  really take the focus off the Diana statue and I think she wont come and things would be uncomfortable if she did.

Yes Duke of Sussex will go alone but Meghan will stay home with kids Archie and Lilibet but in UK public,people and Royals fans don?t want Meghan back for reasons due rifts between two brothers but Duchess of Cambridge will separate William and Harry at Diana?s statue but no drama at Diana?s statue
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Post by: sara8150 on June 18, 2021, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 17, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
I think its probably better if she doesn't come.  Travel is still not back to normal, and she'd have to isolate and its a long way to bring two small children.  Besides I dont believe she woud really want to coem to the UK. 

In UK not lifting back normal till July per PM Boris Johnson but should expire June 21
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Post by: Curryong on June 19, 2021, 12:47:50 AM
Quote from: sara8150 on June 18, 2021, 04:06:09 PM
Yes Duke of Sussex will go alone but Meghan will stay home with kids Archie and Lilibet but in UK public,people and Royals fans don?t want Meghan back for reasons due rifts between two brothers but Duchess of Cambridge will separate William and Harry at Diana?s statue but no drama at Diana?s statue

I doubt very very much that Kate will be there at the statue unveiling. I believe it will be William and Harry only who will be present.
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Post by: Izabella on June 19, 2021, 01:10:31 AM
Ooh! A statue. Nice. 
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
Quote from: Curryong on June 19, 2021, 12:47:50 AM
I doubt very very much that Kate will be there at the statue unveiling. I believe it will be William and Harry only who will be present.
I cna't see why she would not be, unless they decide to confine it to the Spencer side of the family.  Kate is Will's wife and while the children are a bit small for the event, I can't see any real reason why she would not attend.   If Harry can't come, its going to be a bit lonely if Will hasn't got his wife present.
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Post by: sara8150 on June 19, 2021, 04:26:21 PM
Prince William 'did not want Meghan Markle' at Princess Diana statue visit amid royal rift | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1451896/Prince-William-Meghan-Markle-Harry-Princess-Diana-statue-Royal-Family-latest-news-vn)
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Post by: sara8150 on June 19, 2021, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
I cna't see why she would not be, unless they decide to confine it to the Spencer side of the family.  Kate is Will's wife and while the children are a bit small for the event, I can't see any real reason why she would not attend.   If Harry can't come, its going to be a bit lonely if Will hasn't got his wife present.

Duchess of Cambridge will be there and wills and Harry will separate at Diana?s statue but Meghan stay home with kids
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Post by: wannable on June 19, 2021, 04:43:25 PM
I think it would be very awkward, and at large uncomfortable for Meghan to participate. Although the article is the opinion of a RR, I agree in this instance, after throwing under the bus the BRF (and the Queen is the head), I wouldn't attend (neither the jubilee next year. Like @FanDianaFancy make it make sense???!!!)

Quote from: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 07:42:15 AM
I cna't see why she would not be, unless they decide to confine it to the Spencer side of the family.  Kate is Will's wife and while the children are a bit small for the event, I can't see any real reason why she would not attend.   If Harry can't come, its going to be a bit lonely if Will hasn't got his wife present.


^ ^^ I have also read that Kate will be attending as the wife of William, nothing more nothing less, IOW she will not have any other status (i.e. making a speech) in the event.  I also read that an SOS will be to include QEII IF Harry didn't show up.
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 06:06:24 PM
What? The queen is not going to attend.
I dont know if harry will but its possible he may just zoom because of the problems of travelling... but I cant see any reason why Kate would not be there iwth her husband...  She iddn't know Diana but she has married her son and wears Di's ring...and is the mother of 3 of her grandchildren.
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Post by: sara8150 on June 19, 2021, 08:16:33 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 06:06:24 PM
What? The queen is not going to attend.
I dont know if harry will but its possible he may just zoom because of the problems of travelling... but I cant see any reason why Kate would not be there iwth her husband...  She iddn't know Diana but she has married her son and wears Di's ring...and is the mother of 3 of her grandchildren.

Yes Kate is married to wills since 2011 but she will be there at Diana?s statue you will find out
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 08:19:43 PM
We dont know for certain.  It may be that its just William and Harry and the Spencer family but I think that she will be there also....
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Post by: Curryong on June 19, 2021, 11:00:51 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 19, 2021, 06:06:24 PM
What? The queen is not going to attend.
I dont know if harry will but its possible he may just zoom because of the problems of travelling... but I cant see any reason why Kate would not be there iwth her husband...  She iddn't know Diana but she has married her son and wears Di's ring...and is the mother of 3 of her grandchildren.

I don?t believe that Meghan will be there due to travelling with a very new baby. However, what goes for Kate also goes for Meghan. She didn?t know Diana, but she married her son, she is the mother of two of her grandchildren, and has a ring owned by Diana. She is as much a daughter in law as Kate is.  In spite of the ridiculous Express William has not banned Meghan from attending the ceremony, he has no power to.

I expect Harry to spend Father?s Day in California with his family (his first as the father of two children) and then fly over in a few days. I believe he?s been vaccinated since his last visit, probably with a two in one shot.
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Post by: Princess Cassandra on June 21, 2021, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: Curryong on June 19, 2021, 11:00:51 PM
I don?t believe that Meghan will be there due to travelling with a very new baby. However, what goes for Kate also goes for Meghan. She didn?t know Diana, but she married her son, she is the mother of two of her grandchildren, and has a ring owned by Diana. She is as much a daughter in law as Kate is.  In spite of the ridiculous Express William has not banned Meghan from attending the ceremony, he has no power to.

I expect Harry to spend Father?s Day in California with his family (his first as the father of two children) and then fly over in a few days. I believe he?s been vaccinated since his last visit, probably with a two in one shot.
I doubt she would want to subject her newborn to all the germs and pathogens in recycled airplane air and everyone would (or should) understand, and in my honest opinion she should not take such a huge journey and leave her baby behind.  It is a different story for Catherine, who should be there IMO.
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Post by: wannable on June 21, 2021, 10:16:35 PM
Kate would require to walk less than 0.5 Km.  :wink:

(http://www.mylusciouslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Map-of-Kensington-Palace-home-to-British-royalty1.jpg)
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Post by: wannable on June 21, 2021, 10:53:29 PM
Key quotes of Harry's London visit, Unveiling of Diana Statue

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Prince Harry to stay at Frogmore Cottage with Princess Eugenie when he returns to the UK to unveil Princess Diana statue

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The house has been split into two so the Duke of Sussex can stick to isolation rules while he is there ahead of the unveiling of the Princess Diana statue.

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the Grade II-listed home has now been divided into two separate self-contained cottages.

The Duke will have to isolate there for at least five days before testing negative for Covid for the statue unveiling on July 1.

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Post by: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 12:41:12 AM
I don?t know what the tabloids mean by ?two self-contained cottages?. It was reported at the time of the FC renovations, before the Sussexes moved in, that there was going to be a self-contained annexe in the cottage for Doria (or any other guest) which probably has a bedroom with ensuite and own sitting room and kitchenette.) The nanny may have used it as well. So the splitting the cottages thing is nonsense. Plus I?ll bet Eugenie and Jack are sending a plate of food around for breakfast and dinner. I would bet they?re all vaccinated anyway.

This just proves that FC is still Harry and Meghan?s property and the Brooksbanks are renting from them. What?s more, the couple and Harry are absolutely fine about the sharing.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 22, 2021, 01:45:40 AM
Prince Harry 'will stay with Princess Eugenie at Frogmore Cottage when he returns to UK' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9710355/Prince-Harry-stay-Princess-Eugenie-Frogmore-Cottage-returns-UK.html)
Duke of Sussex will stay at Eugenie?s house for Diana?s statue
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 01:54:41 AM
Quote from: sara8150 on June 22, 2021, 01:45:40 AM
Prince Harry 'will stay with Princess Eugenie at Frogmore Cottage when he returns to UK' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9710355/Prince-Harry-stay-Princess-Eugenie-Frogmore-Cottage-returns-UK.html)
Duke of Sussex will stay at Eugenie?s house for Diana?s statue

No, Harry will be staying at his own house, Frogmore Cottage, which the Brooksbanks are renting from Harry and Meghan. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Sussexes or anybody else has  given FC to Eugenie and Jack.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 22, 2021, 02:05:10 AM
Quote from: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 12:41:12 AM
I don?t know what the tabloids mean by ?two self-contained cottages?. It was reported at the time of the FC renovations, before the Sussexes moved in, that there was going to be a self-contained annexe in the cottage for Doria (or any other guest) which probably has a bedroom with ensuite and own sitting room and kitchenette.) The nanny may have used it as well. So the splitting the cottages thing is nonsense. Plus I?ll bet Eugenie and Jack are sending a plate of food around for breakfast and dinner. I would bet they?re all vaccinated anyway.

This just proves that FC is still Harry and Meghan?s property and the Brooksbanks are renting from them. What?s more, the couple and Harry are absolutely fine about the sharing.

Sounds like the annex is ideal for the visit and this way Prince Harry can safely isolate away from the Brooksbanks.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Amabel2 on June 22, 2021, 01:23:20 PM
Why is Harry keeping the house when he is not likely to ever come back ot the UK again to live? 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 01:31:55 PM
Because after Covid is over Harry will no doubt be making regular visits to the UK, to see family, friends and charities that he has links with. His wife and children may well accompany him in the future. There?s his grandmother?s  Platinum Jubliee next year for example.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Amabel2 on June 22, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Im sure relatives could   put him up.  it seems odd for him to pay a commercial rent for a property he only uses now and again when there is a  couple who presumably are happy to make use of it.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 02:07:06 PM
Quote from: Amabel2 on June 22, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Im sure relatives could   put him up.  it seems odd for him to pay a commercial rent for a property he only uses now and again when there is a  couple who presumably are happy to make use of it.

The Brooksbanks presumably pay Harry a monthly rent for the use of FC, that was what was reported when they moved in.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Amabel2 on June 22, 2021, 02:25:21 PM
As I recall, for some reason they also left the house after a few weeks and returned to London..  so I wonder why that was.  Did the queen object to them taking it over and they had to talk things out? I could imagine that the queen was hoping that perhaps H might come back and didn't like the idea of sub letting the house.   So presumably if H is not likely to come back to the UK on a permanent basis, why not give up the lease and let the Brookbanks have it?
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 22, 2021, 02:40:39 PM
Perhaps the Brooksbanks don?t want FC on a permanent basis. They may be looking around for a London apartment or house, if they can get some serious money together. That?s my surmise. Windsor is a bit out of the way for a couple with jobs in central London. And maybe Harry and Meghan have plans for the house of their own. They paid back the SG money they owed and shouldn?t feel compelled to give FC to somebody else, even a cousin.

As far as where the Brooksbanks went after the tabloids reported that they had come to the Cottage and then gone, who knows where they went. AFAIR it was towards the end of Eugenie?s pregnancy. Maybe she wanted to be in Ivy Cott, nearer the London hospital, perhaps she wanted the reassurance of being at Royal Lodge with her parents. She may have gone to Ivy Cottage so she could attend medical appointments. We just don?t know.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 22, 2021, 03:11:15 PM
The crown estate may terminate a/any (crown estate) lease.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on June 22, 2021, 11:24:06 PM
According to Russell Myers Kate will be at the unveiling.

Kate helping William and Harry put on united front at their reunion amid feud - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-help-william-harry-put-24375459.amp?__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 22, 2021, 11:50:34 PM
Kate 'will help William and Harry put on a united front' at Diana statue unveiling' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9714497/Kate-help-William-Harry-united-Diana-statue-unveiling.html)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Izabella on June 23, 2021, 11:59:40 PM
St.Kate bringing out the scrabble board!  :lol:
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 24, 2021, 12:09:04 AM
Like a good Brownie Scout, Catherine is always prepared @Izabella.  :wink:

Amazon.com: Scrabble 887961104776 Travel Game: Toys & Games (https://www.amazon.com/Scrabble-Travel-Board-Game-CJT11/dp/B00RDCK10M)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 24, 2021, 09:40:38 PM
Oh wow, according to Richard Kay there were meant to be approx. 100 plus guests at the unveiling and ceremony. So that has been postponed until September.  Next week only 5 people will be present.

Quote
Princes slash Diana ceremony guest list: William and Harry drastically scale back unveiling of the statue of Princess of Wales as Covid forces them to reduce invites to ceremony
Brothers were due to put aside bitter rift to host an elaborate ceremony on July 1
They will preside over a significantly reduced gathering with a handful of guests
Pair had planned for more than 100 of Diana?s friends, ex-staff and supporters
Guests told large ceremony scrapped and a new date will be fixed for September
Princes William and Harry drastically scale back unveiling of statue of Princess Diana due to Covid | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723065/Princes-William-Harry-drastically-scale-unveiling-statue-Princess-Diana-Covid.html)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 24, 2021, 09:41:18 PM
Interesting according to this article (yes I realize it's the DM) the statue was actually completed in 2018, but the unveiling was delayed due to the Sussexes' wedding, their departure from the BRF and of course COVID. I do see though that choosing to time the unveiling to Diana's 60 birthday was a good time to mark the occasion.

Princes William and Harry drastically scale back unveiling of statue of Princess Diana due to Covid | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723065/Princes-William-Harry-drastically-scale-unveiling-statue-Princess-Diana-Covid.html)

It is a shame that the participation will be very limited, but at least there will be a second event scheduled for Sept. 2021.

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 25, 2021, 03:20:59 AM
Harry is chauffeured to LAX to fly to London for the unveiling of a statue to his mother Diana | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723825/Harry-chauffeured-LAX-fly-London-unveiling-statue-mother-Diana.html)

Kate Middleton to reunite with brother-in-law Prince Harry next week - report | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210623115973/kate-middleton-to-join-prince-william-prince-harry-princess-diana-statue-unveiling/)

Diana statue: Prince William and Harry 'forced to scrap large ceremony for unveiling | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1454345/diana-statue-prince-william-harry-forced-to-scrap-large-ceremony-royal-family-news-ont)

Prince Harry?s UK return for Diana statue event will be ?fleeting? ? ?He?ll be in and out? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1454341/prince-harry-news-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-prince-William-royal-family-ont)

William and Harry 'drastically scale back' guest list for Diana statue unveiling - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/william-harry-drastically-scale-back-24394443)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on June 25, 2021, 12:27:18 PM
Princes William and Harry will be joined next Thursday at the unveiling of a statue commemorating Diana, Princess of Wales at Kensington Palace, by Diana's close family, the sculptor @RankBroadley and members of the statue committee.

https://twitter.com/RoyaNikkhah/status/1408400902776578048?s=20
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 25, 2021, 01:03:53 PM
Richard Palmer

Prince Harry has arrived at Frogmore Cottage in Windsor after landing at Heathrow earlier.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 25, 2021, 01:53:40 PM
Thank you for sharing the details. Looking forward to seeing the completed statue and KP's beautiful Sunken Garden this upcoming week. Hope that the weather is glorious that day.

Here's a link to the sculptor's Facebook page. You can view some of his previous work there.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008492018989

Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 25, 2021, 09:53:11 PM
Kate Middleton will not be at unveiling of the Diana statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9726737/Kate-Middleton-not-unveiling-Diana-statue.html)

Prince Harry arrives at Frogmore Cottage for self-isolation before Diana statue unveiling | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723825/Harry-chauffeured-LAX-fly-London-unveiling-statue-mother-Diana.html)

Princess Diana Statue Unveiling: Who Will Attend? | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/princess-diana-statue-unveiling-who-will-attend-prince-william-prince-harry/)

Prince Harry Arrives in U.K. for Princess Diana Statue Unveiling | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-arrives-uk-princess-diana-statue-unveiling/)

The Queen pictured driving to Frogmore Cottage for possible reunion with grandson Prince Harry | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210625116230/the-queen-drives-frogmore-cottage-possible-prince-harry-reunion/)

Princess Diana's family confirmed to join Princes William and Harry next week - details | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210625116201/princess-diana-family-to-attend-statue-unveiling/)
Include Spencer family

Prince Harry heads to Frogmore Cottage after arriving in London for reunion with Prince William | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210625116177/prince-harry-arrives-in-london-ahead-of-princess-diana-statue-unveiling/)

Guest list at Princess Diana's statue unveiling scaled down last minute ? details | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210625116154/princess-diana-statue-unveiling-guest-list-reduced/)

Prince William and Prince Harry to mark unveiling of Princess Diana statue | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-william-and-prince-harry-to-mark-unveiling-of-princess-diana-statue-12341740)
Two Duchesses Cambridge and Sussex at home but spencer family will attend

William and Harry to reunite for Diana state unveiling - all the details in new statement | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1454545/prince-william-prince-harry-latest-princess-diana-statue-kensington-palace-statement)

Harry arrives in UK ahead of unveiling of Diana statue; ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-25/duke-of-sussex-arrives-in-uk-ahead-of-unveiling-of-diana-statue-in-kensington-palace-gardens)

Queen drives to Frogmore Cottage as Prince Harry lands in UK to unveil Diana statue - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-drives-frogmore-cottage-prince-24400792)

Prince Harry lands in UK after flying home from US amid security scare - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-prince-harry-lands-uk-24397971)

Meghan Markle news LATEST - Prince Harry lands in UK ahead of Diana statue unveiling as Archie stays in US with Duchess (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15290169/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-archie-princess-diana-latest/)

Royal Family latest news ? Queen heading to Frogmore as Prince Harry lands in UK to squash feud and unveil Diana statue (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15380155/royal-family-news-queen-prince-harry-diana-statue-frogmore-latest/)

Kensington Palace officially announce details of Prince William and Prince Harry?s upcoming joint engagement ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/kensington-palace-officially-announce-details-of-prince-william-and-prince-harrys-upcoming-joint-engagement-162242/)

Prince Harry arrives at Frogmore Cottage ahead of statue unveiling next week ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/prince-harry-arrives-at-frogmore-cottage-ahead-of-statue-unveiling-next-week-162264/)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Izabella on June 26, 2021, 11:45:22 AM
Good. The scrabble board is tucked away for another family reunion.  :lol:


Diana statue probably sitting there like ?the thinker? with an expression of ?what the h3ll man?? A look of pure annoyance and utter disgust.  No. I?m sure it?ll be lovely and looking very much like her. Nothing too ornate. Natural. Showcasing her smile. Reflecting. Hopefully. Not ghastly like ?monkey Jesus? or a toy knock off brand. Gah!  :lol:
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: PrincessOfPeace on June 27, 2021, 07:46:12 PM
The Duke of Cambridge will pay a private visit to his mother's statue with his wife and three children ahead of its unveiling on Thursday.

The statue is now thought to be in place in Kensington Palace ahead of Thursday's official ceremony.

The Telegraph: https://archive.ph/QOsQy
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 27, 2021, 08:39:52 PM
Kate and Prince William 'will visit his mother Diana's statue ahead of official unveiling'  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9730829/Kate-Prince-William-visit-mother-Dianas-statue-ahead-official-unveiling.html)

Prince William and Harry aren't 'offering an olive branch' to each other, friend claims | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9729733/Prince-William-Harry-arent-offering-olive-branch-friend-claims.html)

Princess Diana's statue arrives at Kensington Palace ahead of unveiling | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210627116280/princess-diana-statue-arrives-kensington-palace/)

Princess Diana news: Prince Charles to miss statue unveiling over old wounds | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1455266/Princess-Diana-news-statue-Prince-Charles-Prince-William-Prince-Harry-Royal-Family-latest)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 28, 2021, 01:29:50 PM
https://archive.ph/BFTmz An op-ed piece from The Times Royah Nikkah on the upcoming statue unveiling and the Wales brother's current relationship status.
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Post by: wannable on June 28, 2021, 01:43:05 PM
Harry and Meghan are doomed with the BRF since doing that Oprah interview.  No matter the excuses, explanations, it's never ever going to be the same.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on June 28, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
Prince Harry has made a surprise visit in a short video referencing the statue unveiling for the 2021 Diana Awards.

Prince Harry reappears during self-isolation at Frogmore Cottage - watch video | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210628116341/prince-harry-surprise-appearance-2021-diana-awards/)

QuoteHe continued: "Later this week, my brother and I are recognising what would have been our mum's 60th birthday, and she would be so proud of you all for living authentic life with purpose and with compassion for others.

"Our mum believed that young people have the power to change the world. She believed in your strength because she saw it day in and day out and in the faces of young people exactly like you, she witnessed a boundless enthusiasm and passion.

"And I too see those same values shine through as it has done for 21 years now, The Diana Award carries her legacy forward by putting young people at the centre of our future. And this has never been more important."
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Post by: Amabel2 on June 28, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: wannable on June 28, 2021, 01:43:05 PM
Harry and Meghan are doomed with the BRF since doing that Oprah interview.  No matter the excuses, explanations, it's never ever going to be the same.
its not just the Oprah interview, if they had done one, it might be forgivable but Harry has done several broadcasts in hte past couple of months, where he has shown real anger against his family and his royal role....
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Post by: TudorQueen on June 28, 2021, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on June 17, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
I never expected her to come, either.  However, having a young baby didn't stop her from crossing the Atlantic to support her friend in a tennis match.  I thought that was not the right thing to do, and I think it's better that she stays home with both children now.


The two are not comparable.

Archie was four months old. She left him with his father and nanny at home. And there was not a deadly pandemic making travel dangerous.

Lili is not even a month old. And there is a whole pandemic going around. And Harry is going as well so she wouldnt be leaving Lili with her dad.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: sara8150 on June 28, 2021, 09:39:36 PM
Princess Diana's statue unveiling could 'resurface old wounds' for Prince Charles | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9732317/Princess-Dianas-statue-unveiling-resurface-old-wounds-Prince-Charles.html)

Prince Harry mentions his brother in video for Diana Awards ahead of their meeting to unveil statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9733969/Prince-Harry-mentions-brother-video-Diana-Awards-ahead-meeting-unveil-statue.html)

Prince Harry gives nod to brother William in video ahead of Diana statue unveiling - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-gives-nod-brother-24416842)

Prince Harry gives nod to brother William despite rift as he remembers mum Princess Diana for 'living with compassion' (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/royal/15421672/prince-harry-praises-young-people-remembers-princess-diana/)

Prince Harry reflects on his mother and honours inspirational young leaders during 2021 Diana Awards ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/sussex/prince-harry-reflects-on-his-mother-and-honours-inspirational-young-leaders-during-2021-diana-awards-162373/)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 28, 2021, 09:55:53 PM
^^^Well yes, all the extras were damaging as well.  But with the Queen making a statement after the Oprah that recollections may vary and getting rid of the never complain never explain when the Sussex camp say a mistruth in the present and future about any member of the BRF, and clearly stated this resolution will go ''beyond'' the Lilibet debacle. 

It's over and out.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on June 28, 2021, 09:57:20 PM
This was prerecorded (the short video) in Montecito.
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on June 28, 2021, 10:39:27 PM
I absolutely cringed at the video.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 29, 2021, 02:44:13 AM
Always good to see Harry speaking about the Diana Awards and his mother. Looking forward to the statue ceremony tomorrow.
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Post by: TLLK on June 29, 2021, 03:00:30 PM
This is your opportunity to share what you believe the statue will look like. Voting ends on July 1, 2021

I believe that Diana will be sitting on a chair much like in her portrait or on a bench when she was with the young girl who'd lost a limb.
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Post by: wannable on June 29, 2021, 03:03:50 PM
The rumour is The Bench.  :D

(and Harry told wife, wife made The Bench book, Statue done 2018....)  :flower3:
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Post by: sara8150 on June 29, 2021, 03:07:49 PM
We have wait and see till unveiling statue what looks like stand or sit with bench till July 1st let William and Harry will looks like his mom pose of statue 🙏🏻🤞🏻
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on June 30, 2021, 06:36:56 AM
Quote from: wannable on June 29, 2021, 03:03:50 PM
The rumour is The Bench.  :D

(and Harry told wife, wife made The Bench book, Statue done 2018....)  :flower3:

The proportions of the protective shield put around the Diana statue in the last couple of days are quite narrow, not bench-like. My guess is that the sculpted Diana will be kneeling or bobbing down with young children around her. There are dozens of those sort of photos around that speak of her love for children and rapport with them.

I can?t see the photo of her sitting near the Taj Mahal at a very low point in her marriage being chosen as inspiration by her sons. It might well be picked up by the ever observant Press as something of an insult to Charles.
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Post by: sara8150 on June 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
Prince Harry opens up about Princess Diana statue ahead of unveiling | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210630116538/prince-harry-speaks-princess-diana-unveiling/)
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on July 01, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
Statue finally takes root in Princess Diana's beloved sunken garden: Princes helped re-design site | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9743239/Statue-finally-takes-root-Princess-Dianas-beloved-sunken-garden-Princes-helped-design-site.html)

Princess Diana's statue unveiling: Harry and William reunite and family tributes - LIVE UPDATES | HELLO! (https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/gallery/20210701116561/prince-william-prince-harry-reunite-for-princess-diana-statue-unveiling/1/?viewas=amp&__twitter_impression=true)

Prince Harry heads to emotional reunion with William at Diana statue memorial (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15452318/prince-harry-heads-showdown-prince-william/)
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Post by: wannable on July 01, 2021, 01:17:49 PM
It started 15 minutes ago.

Rebecca English
@RE_DailyMail

There is no live coverage of the event but we should see footage, pics and words shortly after it has ended.
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Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 01:45:50 PM
Kensington Palace gardening staff have been preparing for the statute unveiling since October 2019. Princes William and Harry have had a hand in the design as well.

Statue finally takes root in Princess Diana's beloved sunken garden: Princes helped re-design site | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9743239/Statue-finally-takes-root-Princess-Dianas-beloved-sunken-garden-Princes-helped-design-site.html)

QuoteOver 4,000 flowers have been planted, incorporating 50 varieties, including 100 of Diana?s favourite Forget-me-nots, 300 tulips and more than 500 lavenders.

There are more than 200 roses, 100 dahlias and 50 sweet peas. More than 400 metres of turf have been laid to complete the setting.
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Post by: sara8150 on July 01, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
Harry arrives for reunion with William at Diana statue unveiling | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9745599/Harry-arrives-reunion-William-Diana-statue-unveiling.html)

Princess Diana statue unveiling: Expert examines body language of Princes William and Harry | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9745697/Prince-Harry-Prince-William-xxxx-Princess-Diana-statue-body-language-expert-reveals.html)

Princess Diana statue is unveiled to mixed reaction from the public  | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9745965/Diana-statue-unveiled-mixed-reaction-public.html)

Is THIS the card that inspired Princess Diana statue? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9746115/Is-card-inspired-Diana-statue.html)

Watch moment Diana's statue is unveiled by Princes William and Harry on her 60th birthday | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9746141/Watch-moment-Dianas-statue-unveiled-Princes-William-Harry-60th-birthday.html)

Princess Diana statue unveiling: Princes Harry and William reunited with her Spencer siblings | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9745825/Prince-Harry-Prince-William-Princess-Diana-statue-Spencer-siblings.html)

Statue finally takes root in Diana's beloved sunken garden | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9746237/Statue-finally-takes-root-Dianas-beloved-sunken-garden.html)

Lip reader reveals Prince William's cautious approach when revealing Diana statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9745737/Lip-reader-reveals-Prince-Williams-cautious-approach-revealing-Diana-statue.html)

Gifted artist Ian Rank-Broadley boasts award-winning portfolio including Diana statue | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9746371/Gifted-artist-Ian-Rank-Broadley-boasts-award-winning-portfolio-including-Diana-statue.html)

Prince Harry and Prince William Unveil Princess Diana Statue | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-prince-william-unveil-princess-diana-statue/)

Princess Diana's Belove Sunken Garden: About the Kensington Palace Spot | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/kensington-palace-sunken-garden/)

Princess Diana Statue: Learn the Real-Life Outfit Inspiration | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/princess-diana-statue-outfit-inspiration-christmas-card-1993/)

Princess Diana Statue: All About Sculptor Ian Rank-Broadley | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/princess-diana-statue-sculptor-ian-rank-broadley/)

Princess Diana Statue: Who Are the Children? | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/princess-diana-statue-kensington-palace-who-are-the-children/)

Princess Diana's statue has royal fans all saying the same thing | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210701116628/princess-diana-statue-tribute-fans-say-same-thing/)

Prince William and Prince Harry's emotional tribute to Princess Diana - 'Every day, we wish she were still with us' | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210701116591/prince-harry-prince-william-emotional-tribute-to-princess-diana-statue-unveiling/)

Prince William and Prince Harry joined by 13 guests at Princess Diana's statue unveiling | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210701116598/princess-diana-statue-unveiling-guests/)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57684597

Princess Diana statue: Prince Harry and Prince William reunite for unveiling ceremony at Kensington Palace | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/princess-diana-statue-prince-harry-and-prince-william-reunite-for-unveiling-ceremony-at-kensington-palace-12346409)

William and Harry unveil Diana statue at Kensington Palace | Diana, Princess of Wales | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/01/william-and-harry-unveil-diana-statue-at-kensington-palace)

Princess Diana statue unveiling: 5 pictures that perfectly capture poignant royal reunion | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457097/princess-diana-statue-unveiling-pictures-harry-and-william-evg)

Earl Spencer, Lady Sarah McCorquodale, Jane Fellowes at Diana statue event - Who are they? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457030/who-are-earl-spencer-lady-sarah-mccorquodale-jane-fellowes-diana-statue-unveiling-evg)
That sister of late Diana,Princess of Wales

Why is Princess Diana statue unveiling not on TV? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457092/Why-Princess-Diana-statue-unveiling-not-on-TV-evg)
No televised

Princess Diana statue poll: Do YOU like new memorial celebrating Princess of Wales? VOTE | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457240/Princess-Diana-statue-prince-harry-prince-william-royal-rift-meghan-markle-kate-Middleton)

Princess Diana statue unveiling: 5 pictures that perfectly capture poignant royal reunion | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457097/princess-diana-statue-unveiling-pictures-harry-and-william-evg)

Diana statue bears striking resemblance to Harry and William family holiday snap | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457174/princess-diana-statue-60-birthday-kensington-palace-prince-harry-prince-william)

Princess Diana statue: Meaning of the three children explained | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457115/Princess-Diana-statue-three-children-meaning-evg)

Why Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle didn't go to Diana's statue today | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457193/Princess-Diana-statue-unveiling-Kate-Middleton-Meghan-Markle-absent-EVG)
Two Duchesses of Cambridge and Sussex stay home with kids

Diana, Princess of Wales sculpture unveiled by William and Harry ? A review | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457178/Diana-Princess-of-Wales-sculpture-unveiled-William-Harry-review)

GB News sparks royal fans fury with 'disrespectful' Diana poll | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457167/GB-news-princess-diana-statue-theresa-may-kensington-palace-royal-latest-news-video-vn)

Princess Diana statue engraving in full - 'How did she play her god-given part?' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457123/Princess-Diana-statue-engraving-in-full-evg)

Who is Pip Morrison? Diana's Kensington Palace garden designer | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457107/Pip-Morrison-Dianas-Kensington-Palace-garden-designer-EVG)

Diana statue unveiled: First pictures of Princess of Wales surrounded by three children | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1457103/diana-statue-first-pictures-prince-harry-prince-william)

William and Harry put their differences aside as they unveil statue of their mother Princess Diana | ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2021-07-01/william-and-harry-put-their-differences-aside-as-they-unveil-statue-of-their-mother-princess-diana)

Harry and William together for unveiling of Princess Diana statue on her 60th birthday | ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-30/harry-and-william-together-for-unveiling-of-princess-diana-statue-on-her-60th-birthday)

Diana statue unveiling LIVE: Harry and William issue rare joint statement about mum - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/diana-statue-unveiling-live-prince-24435232)

Feuding William and Harry stand shoulder to shoulder to honour Diana with new statue - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-feuding-william-harry-stand-24435865)

Diana statue unveiling was 'perfect occasion to bring two warring princes together' - Ingrid Seward - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/diana-statue-unveiling-perfect-occasion-24441462)

Sweet story of three children in Princess Diana statue - and hidden meaning of outfit - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sweet-story-three-children-princess-24439518)

Princess Diana statue pictured for first time after being unveiled by William and Harry - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/princess-diana-statue-revealed-william-24438250)

Prince William & Harry buried feud during Diana statue unveiling as they spoke of ?amazing? moment, lip reader claims (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15459893/prince-william-buried-feud-harry-amazing-diana-statue/)

Harry and William say ?we wish she were still with us? as they stand side-by-side in reunion for Princess Diana statue (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15452318/prince-harry-heads-showdown-prince-william/)

Royal fans confused by hidden third child lurking in Princess Diana statue - did you spot them? (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15458263/royal-fans-confused-hidden-child-lurking-princess-diana-statue/)

Prince Harry battled ?inner tension? at Diana statue unveiling with one sign giving it away, claims body language expert (https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15458633/prince-harry-tension-princess-diana-statue/)

Diana?s statue at Kensington Palace revealed ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/dianas-statue-at-kensington-palce-revealed-162573/)

Prince William and Prince Harry release rare joint statement ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/prince-william-and-prince-harry-release-rare-joint-statement-162569/)

How William and Harry remembered their mother at poignant statue ceremony ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/how-william-and-harry-remembered-their-mother-at-poignant-statue-ceremony-162603/)

A select gathering witness unveiling of new tribute to Diana ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/a-select-gathering-witness-unveiling-of-new-tribute-to-diana-162539/)

Diana Statue: An In Depth Look at the New Memorial To Diana ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/diana-statue-an-in-depth-look-at-the-new-memorial-to-diana-162568/)

At a time of family turmoil, Princes William and Harry commemorate Diana at Kensington Palace - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/video/at-a-time-of-family-turmoil-princes-william-and-harry-commemorate-diana-at-kensington-palace/)

Princes William, Harry attend Princess Diana statue unveiling amid family tensions | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/princes-william-harry-attend-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-78472832)

Watch: Statue of late Princess Diana revealed on her 60th birthday (https://www.today.com/video/watch-statue-of-late-princess-diana-revealed-on-her-60th-birthday-115824709948)

Prince Harry, Prince William reunite for Princess Diana statue unveiling in Kensington Palace | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-prince-william-reunite-princess-diana-statue-unveiling-sunken-garden-kensington-palace)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 01:54:21 PM
Here's some footage of Lady Sarah, Lady Jane and Earl Spencer walking through the park for the unveiling. It appears to be Jane in the front with Sarah and Charles walking behind her.

https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1410574465252081668

QuoteDiana, Princess of Wales?s brother and sisters have arrived at Kensington Palace for the unveiling of her statue on what would have been her 60th birthday. They turned up on foot, just walking through the gathered crowds and stopped for a moment to look at the tributes
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Post by: Curryong on July 01, 2021, 01:59:18 PM
It was nice that the Spencers were very casual about their arrival, barely noticed by many in the crowd and just looking at the posters, flowers, cards etc that have been left.
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Post by: Curryong on July 01, 2021, 02:13:24 PM
A gallery of the brothers and the Spencers plus of course the first glimpse of the statue.

LOS PRINCIPES HARRY Y GUILLERMO SE REUNEN PARA HOMENAJEAR A SU MADRE LA PRINCESA DIANA DE GALES DESCUBRIENDO UNA ESTATUA EN SU 6O CUMPLEA?OS - Todos - (http://images.gtresnews.com/es/feature/1262221/los-principes-harry-y-guillermo-se-reunen-para-homenajear-a-su-madre-la-princesa-diana-de-gales-descubriendo-una-estatua-en-su-6o-cumpleanos/page/1/SN/ACTUALITY_TODOS)
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 02:14:26 PM
Okay for those of you who voted in the poll that she'd be standing, you were correct!

It appears to be a bronze of Diana as she was in her mid thirties with three young children. One is partially hidden by the girl on Diana's left but is pointing. Diana is depicted in a skirt, blouse and pumps.  I believe that the sculptor is in the tan suit.

Honestly I believe it's a wonderful depiction of Diana and how many people would remember her and the work that she did over the years.
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Post by: Curryong on July 01, 2021, 02:22:42 PM
Well, I was wrong as I expected her to be kneeling among small children! However Diana wasn?t sitting on a bench either.
Don?t know that I am that keen on the statue at first glance, but the photos of the brothers and their Spencer aunts and uncle are very nice. And everyone seems pleased.

Is it a sort of take on the first photo op Diana ever had in 1980 with her thin skirt (the one the sun shone through) and her pupils all around her? I read a couple of days ago that it was going to be a tribute to the youthful Diana. Somebody seemed to know something. 
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Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 02:30:23 PM
A joint statement from Princes William and Harry released via KP Twitter.

https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1410602538848509957

QuoteToday, on what would have been our Mother?s 60th birthday, we remember her love, strength and character ? qualities that made her a force for good around the world, changing countless lives for the better. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

?

Every day, we wish she were still with us, and our hope is that this statue will be seen forever as a symbol of her life and her legacy. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge


Thank you to Ian Rank-Broadley, Pip Morrison and their teams for their outstanding work, to the friends and donors who helped make this happen, and to all those around the world who keep our mother?s memory alive.

? Prince William and Prince Harry
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Post by: Curryong on July 01, 2021, 02:35:38 PM
And a joint statement from the two brothers as well, paying a fulsome tribute to their mother, who was truly a wonderful magical person, on her birthday! Just fabulous.
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Post by: wannable on July 01, 2021, 02:51:41 PM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B3CB/production/_119172064_hi068343786.jpg)

So far the best picture, although the balding patches of both is distracting.
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Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 04:04:47 PM
I'm always impressed by the scale of statues. Both of Diana's sons are over six feet tall but I'm going to estimate that Diana's depiction would have her closer to 9 feet.

Regarding the brothers' bald patches, honestly I've grown used to them once it became apparent that both were going to be losing their hair. Hope that both apply sunscreen liberally and wear hats frequently when they can.

Video of the actual unveiling.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
@KensingtonRoyal
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Thank you to Ian Rank-Broadley, Pip Morrison and their teams for their outstanding work, to the friends and donors who helped make this happen, and to all those around the world who keep our mother?s memory alive.

? Prince William and Prince Harry
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Post by: TLLK on July 01, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Well it appears that no one won the poll now that we know that Diana was in a standing pose.
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Post by: Blue Clover on July 01, 2021, 05:30:50 PM
I watched the unveiling today and I was happy the brothers and Spencers put on a united front. Diana was monumental for me and someone who follows royalty. I think the statue speaks to her legacy.

It is hard to see the boys aging and bald!  :teehee:

@Curryong The joint statement was great!
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Post by: wannable on July 01, 2021, 08:36:01 PM
Picture taken by Charles Spencer, twitter

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5PGVWMXIAsbdGX?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: wannable on July 01, 2021, 10:35:06 PM
I see Diana in Marble, but hey the above was approved by her sons.
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Post by: LouisFerdinand on July 01, 2021, 10:37:10 PM
China Pink Tulips and Maureen Tulips were among the blooms used. I have planted both types of tulips.
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Macrobug67 on July 02, 2021, 02:16:33 AM
I kinda like it.  Not certain about the grip she has on the girl.  It?s rather static but that?s not a complete negative.  This isn?t meant to be a art masterpiece but a memorial - the outfit screams 90s Diana, the kids represent her humanitarian activities and interest in kids.  Not a 100 but a solid 75. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on July 02, 2021, 03:04:00 AM
The statue?s received a mixed reaction. I?m not that keen on the interpretation by this sculptor to be honest but I do have the feeling that as people get used to the statue it will grow on them. I was hoping there would be children around her so I?m glad that there are three there. Apparently it?s very much representative of this artist?s work. To me it seems too hard-looking, too large and looming, too dark.

I was lucky enough to see Diana in real life several times, and can remember the softness, warmth and humanity that shone out of her even in casual moments. There?s nothing of that in this statue, but of course it would be virtually impossible to capture Diana?s personality in bronze, marble or paint.

Nevertheless this representation of Diana and her work was chosen by her sons, the people she loved best and who remember her with such love too, so really that?s all that matters. And I am absolutely sure that she would have loved the little gathering today, her sons, brother, her two sisters there to honour her. I also loved the verse on her character and impact on the world, engraved nearby.
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Post by: Izabella on July 02, 2021, 04:12:37 AM
Someone said ?Why is Diana wearing a wrestling/ santa belt?? The fashion of the time.  :lol: She has the look of an elementary school teacher at recess.  :shrug: Determined, Focused and gazing out at the water. A protective arm around the little girl who is about to sprint off. A ?secret garden? kind of vibe. Nice book. Very similiar in cause just like UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador Audrey Hepburn was devoted to helping the world's children and now Kate. Overall, it?s a nice lovely statue.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Amabel2 on July 02, 2021, 10:19:25 AM
I was unsure about a statue.. but thsi was worse than I imagined. I think that it shows that Diana's image can't be captured in art... sadly...
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on July 02, 2021, 11:23:58 AM
I guess I like it. Not sure what I was expecting. It'll grow on me.
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Post by: TLLK on July 02, 2021, 10:44:57 PM
 There's been a good deal of discussion regarding the outfit she's wearing and honestly I believe that it was a deliberate choice by her sons to portray her in her post-divorce working outfits rather than one of her sheath dresses that she wore frequently during her tenure as Princess of Wales. I have to wonder if Diana felt more confident and self-assured in the separates when she was working with her charities and patronages. Perhaps she believed that people took her more seriously and she shared that with her sons. They obviously wanted to portray her in the last year of her life, so this must have been what she was choosing to wear then.

Though I have to say that perhaps the belt could have been scaled back a bit.
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Post by: Curryong on July 03, 2021, 12:18:26 AM
I?ve read that the depiction of her outfit on the statue was taken from the first Xmas card Diana sent on her own after the separation from Charles. It featured a photo of her with her boys and wearing a skirt, blouse which wasn?t fully buttoned and a wide belt. It very much resembles what?s shown on the statue.
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Post by: Macrobug67 on July 03, 2021, 02:01:10 AM
The outfit is exactly what I remember Diana wearing in the last few years of her life. It was her sons choice and this is what they wanted.  Not exactly my cup of tea but not my mothers memorial. 
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: Curryong on July 03, 2021, 03:17:17 AM
Xmas card of Diana and sons, with blouse and belt that might have inspired the statue representation.

Statue of Princess Diana may have been inspired by her first Christmas card as a single mother | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/diana-statue-inspiration-photograph-william-harry-b1876872.html)
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Post by: LouisFerdinand on July 05, 2021, 11:22:47 PM
Meaning behind Three children in the Princess Diana statue     
Meaning behind 3 children in the Princess Diana statue | Royal Insider - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUsnLEEFaY)
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Post by: Amabel2 on July 21, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
I dont think that anyone's made very favourable comments about the statue...  i wonder if a lot of people will go and see it.
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on August 26, 2021, 10:54:08 AM
The Princess Diana statue, unveiled by Princes William and Harry in July, will open specially on Tuesday to mark the anniversary of her death. It's normally open Wed-Sun but @HRP_palaces
has arranged for the public to view it on 31 August - the 24th anniversary of the Paris crash.

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1430842278520754180?s=20
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Post by: TLLK on August 26, 2021, 01:46:50 PM
Glad that Historic Royal Palaces has arranged for that area to be open on Tuesday so those who wish to see the new statue will be able to view it.
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Post by: TLLK on September 29, 2021, 04:54:41 PM
A new memorial plaque for Diana was installed at her old flat by the English Heritage group.

https://twitter.com/LizzieITV/status/1443186406545887234

QuotePrincess Diana has been honoured today with an @EnglishHeritage
blue plaque. It was unveiled by her former flatmate Virginia Clarke at Coleherne Court on the Old Brompton Road, where she was living at the time of her engagement to the Prince of Wales in 1981.
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Post by: sara8150 on September 29, 2021, 05:44:00 PM
A blue plaque for Princess Diana has been placed on the 'Earl's Court flat where she lived | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10040759/A-blue-plaque-Princess-Diana-placed-Earls-Court-flat-lived.html)
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Post by: sara8150 on September 29, 2021, 05:59:14 PM
Princess Diana honoured by new tribute moments away from Harry and William's statue | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1498559/princess-Diana-news-English-Heritage-tribute-kesnignton-statue-royal-latest)

Blue plaque to Diana, Princess of Wales unveiled ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/blue-plaque-to-diana-princess-of-wales-unveiled-166445/)
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Post by: Macrobug67 on October 10, 2021, 08:13:32 PM
This is a thread about Diana memorials etc.  NOT Harry and Meghan. I have moved the off topic posts and further discussion here regarding those two will be removed.  Please discuss them in the appropriate threads.  Merci Buckets, mis amigos.   :shake:
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Post by: wannable on October 19, 2021, 11:17:15 PM

HELLO! Canada
@HelloCanada

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have hosted a postponed reception in Kensington Palace's sunken garden
Title: Re: All memorials to Diana including the fountain, playground, and statue discussio
Post by: wannable on October 19, 2021, 11:21:54 PM
Prince William & Kate Middleton Attend Gathering at Kensington Palace in Honor of Princess Diana (https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a38006355/kate-middleton-princess-diana-kensington-palace-princess-diana-party-2021/?utm_medium=social-media&src=socialflowTW&utm_campaign=socialflowTWTCO&utm_source=twitter)
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Post by: TLLK on October 19, 2021, 11:32:19 PM
I have a feeling that we won't see many photos from this private reception. Perhaps there might be one taken of the donors or Diana's family, but that might be it.
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Post by: PrincessOfPeace on October 24, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
Prince William name-checks Harry in rare show of unity in speech praising friends for Diana statue (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16515768/prince-william-nod-to-harry-in-speech/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)