Andrew and new Epstein Trial

Started by Curryong, July 10, 2019, 01:18:07 AM

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amabel

Quote from: sandy on December 30, 2019, 09:20:55 PM
I brought it up because it was ridiculous. I certainly am not an advocate of the National Enquirer. There are other articles placed here from other dubious sources. So I did not see any reason not to add it to the others. Just saying.
But its like saying that a children's comic is not the same as an adult newspaper.  Its obvious.  We know that the Americna tabloids are light and for entertainemtn only.  THe British tabloids are not very exact either but they are not on the same level of silly as the American ones.


sandy

sounds like more trouble ahead for Andrew. VIrginia Roberts is going to keep talking to the media.

Blue Clover

I hope Virginia Roberts will see justice in her case, she has been through so much.


Curryong

Thinking that Ghislane Maxwell, organiser and pimp of trafficked girls for her buddy Epstein, would rush to his defence just proves that Andrew is both tone deaf to public opinion and as thick as two planks, IMO.

sandy

She's in no position to defend anybody.

Princess Cassandra

Quote from: Curryong on January 03, 2020, 11:24:30 PM
Thinking that Ghislane Maxwell, organiser and pimp of trafficked girls for her buddy Epstein, would rush to his defence just proves that Andrew is both tone deaf to public opinion and as thick as two planks, IMO.
Probably both, if the story is true.



wannable

Sebastian Shakespeare is confirming Andrew will not take part in this year's trooping of the colour.

sara8150


sandy

There was a rather horrific documentary about Epstein and his activities yesterday. Young teens were involved in the sordidness. Andrew is not in the clear.

Trudie

I doubt Andrew will ever perform royal engagements for the rest of his life. It may emerge as he says he is innocent, however, his association with Epstein will always taint him as the old saying goes show me your friends and I will show you who you are.



wannable

Agree @Trudie Charles and William will make sure it remains 'fired forever'

sandy

Quote from: Trudie on January 10, 2020, 02:31:31 PM
I doubt Andrew will ever perform royal engagements for the rest of his life. It may emerge as he says he is innocent, however, his association with Epstein will always taint him as the old saying goes show me your friends and I will show you who you are.

Epstein  was a fiend. And yes, Andrew's association with him is going to indeed taint him.

I am not so sure Andrew is innocent. But he certainly is going to be scrutinized whether or not he turns out to be innocent.


amabel

Quote from: sandy on January 10, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
Epstein  was a fiend. And yes, Andrew's association with him is going to indeed taint him.

I am not so sure Andrew is innocent. But he certainly is going to be scrutinized whether or not he turns out to be innocent.

He is no longer performing Royal duties, and while the queen is still supporting him in private, she is not dong so in public.  She's not going to throw him out, he is her son.. but A's royal life is over (I Hope for good)..

Trudie

Quote from: sandy on January 10, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
Epstein  was a fiend. And yes, Andrew's association with him is going to indeed taint him.

I am not so sure Andrew is innocent. But he certainly is going to be scrutinized whether or not he turns out to be innocent.

Exactly Sandy I am not so sure he is innocent either that is why I said it may emerge he is innocent. IMO he couldn't be that stupid with all those teenage girls around that something was amiss. It is also well known massage places are used to front businesses for ladies of the evening.



sara8150

Quote from: sandy on January 10, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
Epstein  was a fiend. And yes, Andrew's association with him is going to indeed taint him.

I am not so sure Andrew is innocent. But he certainly is going to be scrutinized whether or not he turns out to be innocent.

I?m agreeing with you

Princess Cassandra

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Quote from: Trudie on January 10, 2020, 02:31:31 PM
I doubt Andrew will ever perform royal engagements for the rest of his life. It may emerge as he says he is innocent, however, his association with Epstein will always taint him as the old saying goes show me your friends and I will show you who you are.
The very base of the issue; he showed poor judgment in his choice of friends, and then insisting upon remaining loyal. Those with poor judgment can hurt the "Firm", causing everyone else in the family to share in the fallout. Of course I could be wrong, but I see Andrew as arrogant, not-clever, and having poor judgment rather than having a moral code like Epstein's. I agree he will never work again. I don't think he wants to, anyway. He's kind of a lazy person who likes to do what he wants with his time.

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Quote from: sandy on January 10, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
Epstein  was a fiend. And yes, Andrew's association with him is going to indeed taint him.

I am not so sure Andrew is innocent. But he certainly is going to be scrutinized whether or not he turns out to be innocent.
Absolutely.

sandy

The NY Post is saying now Andrew is the Queen's "support" during the crisis with the Sussexes, and is out in public with her. I think he's a big opportunist with no shame. They can talk in private but the outward support by the Queen for someone associated with one of the sleaziest people on the planet really makes me sick. He is probably bad mouthing his own nephew and she is said to be angrier with Harry and Meghan than with Andrew. This shows how weak the Queen truly is. He was kept away from the walk last Christmas but he is out and about escorting the Queen. This family really bothers me.

Princess Cassandra

Quote from: sandy on January 20, 2020, 04:16:54 PM
The NY Post is saying now Andrew is the Queen's "support" during the crisis with the Sussexes, and is out in public with her. I think he's a big opportunist with no shame. They can talk in private but the outward support by the Queen for someone associated with one of the sleaziest people on the planet really makes me sick. He is probably bad mouthing his own nephew and she is said to be angrier with Harry and Meghan than with Andrew. This shows how weak the Queen truly is. He was kept away from the walk last Christmas but he is out and about escorting the Queen. This family really bothers me.
I agree he should lay low! I would probably check out the source of the news that she is angrier at Harry and Meghan than she is of him. For one thing, that would be an opinion rather than a fact, and I thought she made a real point of saying she loves them and is especially proud of Meghan. She isn't known to be insincere, and she actually said it, so you know it isn't fake news.

sara8150

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sandy

I think the Queen is in denial about Andrew. The problems with Andrew are not going away.