Re: Queen Victoria, Prince Albert and Family Discussion

[snokitty]

Victoria, Princess Royal, German Empress, Queen of Prussia | Unofficial Royalty

Victoria, Princess Royal was the eldest child of Queen Victoria and her husband Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. She was born on November 21, 1840 at Buckingham Palace, nine months after her parents' marriage. Her christening was held on February 10, 1841, her parents' first wedding anniversary, and she was given the names Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa. In the family, she was known as Vicky. Her godparents were:

[LouisFerdinand]

Wilhelm II (1859-1941) was the Emperor of Germany from 1888 to 1918.   
His father was Frederick III, Emperor of Germany. His mother was Victoria, Princess Royal of Great Britain.   
Kaiser Wilhelm II: His life and facts | History Extra

[Curryong]

^ I'm not a great fan of Wilhelm II. He treated his mother Vicky appallingly, shocking even Queen Victoria. He'd always been able to get round his grandmother, though she wasn't blind to his faults, because he claimed to remember his grandfather, the sainted one, Prince Albert, who had died when he was three.

His widowed mother had to smuggle her letters and papers out of Germany, with the help of her mother's Private Secretary Henry Ponsonby. Wilhelm was going to seize them after his father's death as they contained criticisms of him.

He mounted a search for them in his mother's home but Ponsonby had already got them out in a trunk marked 'Books'. Later on when the elderly Wilhelm, then in exile in Holland, wrote some self justifying memoirs criticising his mother's attitudes, Vicky's letters were a contradiction of these and were also published.

[edweena]

First grandson and also the biggest evil who started WWI. Maybe influenced by colonies of superpower UK he got his ideas to gain control of the world, as his father sized other German countries, kingdoms and dukedoms into Germany but they missed from middle ages any colonies. Prussia became a leading kingdom and Prussia was military state, so Germany became as well. The wife of Edward VII didnt like him, he, influended by his Danish wife Alexandra, wasn't on speaking terms with him as well. They blamed him from stealing Schleswig Holstein and also reason why Alexandra had miscrarriage. Also German relatives of Queen Mary, son of Edward VII didnt like Prussian king, reason was his annexe of their kingdoms under his rule, Kassell, Strelitz Mecklenburg, Wurttenberg, they were against Willhem who succeeded his father after he died after couple of months as new king. His mother as well. He died as old man in exil, in country he fought against, leaving Germany in 1918 in broken state, low self esteem,poverty and domestic war - marxists,right wings...dukes killed themselves when they lost their rights..duke of Mecklenburg Strelitz...Willhelm run away and Weinmar republic became new name for Germany..aristos banned, Germany humiliated, their army never defeated just asked to give up, with poverty and 1930s crisis Nazis seized power. The rest is known. Funny German aristo von Schullenberg relative of famous German 1970s model Veruschka wanted to kill Hitler. The self identity and self esteem of nation always work, with good economics, lost of culture leads to Right wing in France because Islam in France canno adjust, the worst is low self esteem. Question how much was linked with personal wished of former Kaiser and how much did Germany want to be a superpower?

[LouisFerdinand]

Wilhelm had a turbulent relationship with his mother Victoria.     
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2507296

[Curryong]

Turbulent indeed ! Both had very difficult personalities. Vicky's was personified by a sort of intellectual elitism. When in Germany she had the irritating habit of praising Britain to the skies, when visiting Britain she would point out how much better it was in Germany.

A lot of the difficulties between mother and son sprang from the fact that the two eldest children, Wilhelm and Charlotte, were kept away from their parents a great deal, from babyhood. This was the doing of their grandparents Wilhelm I and his wife, Augusta aka 'The Dragon of the Rhine'. Augusta was as liberal as her husband was reactionary and they were unhappily married but they were united in directing their two eldest grandchildren's lives, and Henry as well, (they didn't bother about the others.)

[LouisFerdinand]

Wilhelm II developed a penchant for archaeology during his vacations on Corfu during the first decade of the 1900s.     
He also liked to sketch plans for grand buildings.

[LouisFerdinand]

Kaiser Wilhelm II Rose was a Hybrid Tea rose with red blooms.     
It was named in honor of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany.

[LouisFerdinand]

                     How often was Queen Victoria amused?   
                     Queen Victoria - Part 9 - The Queen Was Often Amused - YouTube   
                     :lol:  :lol: :lol: :teehee: :teehee: :teehee: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[LouisFerdinand]

The Wikipedia article on Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld expressed:   
When the Queen's first child, the Princess Royal, was born, the Duchess of Kent unexpectedly found herself welcomed back into Victoria's inner circle.

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria on Film   
Queen Victoria (1819-1901) - A Life in Images and on Film - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

Strict punishments, including being left alone on a staircase with her hands bound, were inflicted whenever Princess Victoria resisted her mother the Duchess of Kent and John Conroy's authority.   

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[LouisFerdinand]

Emperor Wilhelm II wore a frock coat.     
King of prussia, House of windsor and Tsar nicholas ii on Pinterest

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria expressed that when her son the Prince of Wales succeeded to the throne he should be known as King Albert Edward. Bertie felt constrained to point out that no British sovereign had borne a double name in the past.

[LouisFerdinand]

Kaiser Wilhelm II became the first person to make a sound recording of a political document, using Thomas Edison's cylinder.

[LouisFerdinand]

John Brown died in 1883. Queen Victoria publicly described him as her devoted personal attendant and faithful friend.

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria spoke in 1888.     
Queen Victoria Voice - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

Emperor Wilhelm and the Crown Prince prepared for battle during World War I.   
Kaiser Wilhelm II and the Crown Prince prepare for battle during World War I in G...HD Stock Footage - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

Queen Victoria's mother, the Duchess of Kent thought it was an insult that her daughter should only have two names.

[LouisFerdinand]

Here is a nice photo of Queen Victoria standing outdoors. She is wearing a bonnet and shawl which is rather fancy. An observer might not think that she was the Queen.   

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/462885667936567358

[Mike]

Any comments on the TV mini-series on PBS?

Victoria (TV Series 2016? ) - IMDb

Unfortunately, IMDb just shut down their message boards.

[LouisFerdinand]

Within three hours after she became Queen in 1837, Victoria had a meeting with the Prime Minister Lord Melbourne and informed him that she wanted him to remain in government.

[LouisFerdinand]

In 1867 Queen Victoria signed off on the Reform Act of 1867. The reform act gave voting rights to all working class men.

[LouisFerdinand]

Top ten facts about Queen Victoria   
Top 10 facts about Queen Victoria - YouTube

[LouisFerdinand]

Was the decade after Prince Albert's demise in 1861 a lost decade for Queen Victoria?