Re: Royal Privacy and Security Throughout the Years

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PrincessOfPeace

#25
March 19, 2014, 03:08:52 AM
If that's the best you have I think we'll stick to the British way of doing things and let the Swedes do whatever it is they do.

Limabeany

#26
March 19, 2014, 10:03:41 AM
Since William and Kate are so criticized, I would say they need some help from people who know how to be thoughtful with their subjects.
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

Princessinwaiting

#27
March 19, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Like what staying in the middle ages ?

PrincessOfPeace

#28
March 19, 2014, 11:01:58 AM
^^^ Well we may not have gender neutral toilets in every school and we aren't big on crossing dressing our children like our Scandinavian friends but Britain is one of the most progressive countries in Europe. With respect, Sweden can keep their socialist and over bloated welfare state. Britain has enough to deal with.

cinrit

#29
March 19, 2014, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Limabeany on March 19, 2014, 02:59:42 AM
Ask Daniel and Victoria. They are doing great!  :thumbsup: 

If we're comparing the British Royals to the Swedish Royals, I saw something yesterday that surprised me.  Mind you, I like Victoria and Daniel very much, and I find Estelle to be adorable.  Yesterday (or the day before?), I watched a video of Victoria doing a walk-about on her birthday.  She kept a slight distance away from the crowd and didn't shake hands with anyone.  She just walked along, smiling and bowing her head.  At one point, a woman offered her flowers, and Victoria stopped to talk to her, then talked to her little girl.  She didn't bend down to the child's height, she just leaned over and said a few words.  She shook hands with these people.  After a minute or so, she continued walking, without shaking hands with anyone.  If anyone would like to see the video, I posted it in the Swedish section yesterday.

So maybe, just maybe, the British sometimes do it better. :)

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

cinrit

#30
March 19, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
I was responding to your remark that Daniel and Victoria are doing it right.  I pointed out that sometimes the British do it better. :shrug:  And I didn't "seek" this video.  It was embedded in an article that I posted about Victoria's Name Day (not birthday as I previously stated ... sorry).  I didn't watch the video until I'd already posted the article.  As I stated, I like the Swedish Crown Princesses family.  I have nothing but respect and admiration for them.  But they're not perfect in every way.  No one is, so why the comparisons?  And if there are comparisons (which is not something I started), why not complete comparisons?

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

Limabeany

#31
March 19, 2014, 02:34:12 PM Last Edit: January 12, 2022, 01:17:50 AM by TLLK
Because this is a thread about George and the way their parents handle the media and the public. I used Estelle to illustrate what, in my opinion, is the respectful way to approach this under the circumstances. You may open a general comparison thread if you wish.   :cool:
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

TLLK

#32
March 19, 2014, 02:46:00 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 02:56:12 PM by TLLK
IMHO the British royals will choose the path that they believe is best for their children and the Swedes, Danes, Spanish etc... will do the same.  :) Most of the current CP couples along with the Kings of the NL and Belgium have followed a similar path or somewhere in the middle. Newborn leaving the hospital photo, christening photo, 6-8 month photo and first birthday photo. There were occasional candid shots that were released as well. The Danes and Spaniards do annual summer photocalls with the entire family. The Dutch royals released a then very controversial media code around the time that Catherina-Amalia was born. Anyone who violated it risked legal action and would be excluded from future photocalls.

PrincessOfPeace

#33
March 19, 2014, 02:46:38 PM
Well we've seen Prince George five times both officially and unofficially in the first 8 months and next month we are sure to get many more photos and probably some video as well. For those who do actually want to see George, there have been and will be plenty of opportunities, for those looking for an excuse to bash the Cambridges you don't need any reasons for that anyway

TLLK

#34
March 19, 2014, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 19, 2014, 12:51:09 AM
^^^ Thanks. Just one photo between William's christening and the Australian Tour. Here I was thinking there must have been multiple photo shoots and maybe even a few documentaries of William during his first nine months from the amount of slack the Cambridges get from some people about George.
Of the published photos that I could find of William he was a newborn in the first. He was under 6 weeks for the second and 7 months for the photos released before his Australian trip. He was christened at an earlier age than George.

Rebound

#35
March 19, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
IMO George isn't a prop, or a distraction for William and Kate. He is their beloved baby, and they want to protect him and shield him from harm, as all parents do. If they think it would be harmful to expose him to the media in his early formative years, then they are doing the right thing.

The British press is very different from the Swedish press. Every royal family has different circumstances, just as "ordinary" parents have. Their baby, they get to call the shots. George should be left to have a lovely childhood--he won't be king for many, many years. I'm sure the royals will see to it that he knows his duty as he grows.

cinrit

#36
March 19, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
It was pretty evident in William's youth, that he felt seriously uncomfortable with the attention from the media.  Not only could we see his discomfort, it was widely discussed by the press.  Perhaps that's why he prefers that George not be exposed to the same.  We actually don't know how often the Cambridges venture out.  For example, they were just at a dinner for their Foundation a couple of nights ago, and if someone hadn't tweeted about it, we would never have known.  Obviously, they've taken George out to visit both his maternal and paternal grandparents, and very possibly his great-grandparents.  And yet, there has been no news circulating.  It's impossible to know what they do with every minute of their lives, or how they interact with their infant. 

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

cinrit

#38
March 19, 2014, 07:14:08 PM Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 07:17:02 PM by cinrit
^^ Yes, we're talking about the same video.  Those children whose hands she's shaking were standing next to the woman who gave her flowers ... and you may have noticed that I pointed out that incident in my previous post (" At one point, a woman offered her flowers, and Victoria stopped to talk to her, then talked to her little girl.  She didn't bend down to the child's height, she just leaned over and said a few words.  She shook hands with these people.")  She'd walked several yards before encountering this lady.  Look, I'm not trying to put Victoria down.  If that's how she wants to handle walk-abouts, that cool.  What I am saying is exactly what I've already said ... maybe sometimes the British do certain things better.  No one is 100% perfect.  Maybe it would be a good idea if you started a thread about it and just answering your question here.  I'm pretty much finished with it.  I responded to a general phrase that "Ask Victoria and Daniel.  They're doing great!", I reported what I saw, and now that's it for me. :flower:

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

Limabeany

#39
March 19, 2014, 07:23:52 PM
I meant great with Estelle and their subjects. They seem to have a happy balance without the hang-ups and "we must be unseen so we can be private and happy" issues that the Cambridges have.
"You don't have to be pretty. You don't owe prettiness to anyone. Not to your boyfriend/spouse/partner, not to your co-workers, especially not to random men on the street. You don't owe it to your mother, you don't owe it to your children, you don't owe it to civilization in general. Prettiness is not a rent you pay for occupying a space marked 'female'." Diana Vreeland.

sara8150

#40
March 19, 2014, 07:32:33 PM
Mostly CP couples know what protect kids in spotlight and taking pictures or NOT! Due what mention on posts but CP couples can taking pictures of kids on photocall and publish must have permit by palace and official also they can get in magazine approval..

I'm sure William and Kate will learn get publish pictures from agency who publish like people,hello! And mores on world magazine plus American must have permit by palace and official to publish magazine..but no paparazzi or tabloids include remind what last times on Kate got topless in France but the couples DID bans France for pictures on Kate..

European royals know best wanted pictures or not they won't publish you remind Dutch monarchy favors not get pictures of three princesses due respectively of monarchy willem-Alex for his girls in spotlight for reasons till photocall in vacations.must approval by palace or official to publish magazine it's important

cinrit

#41
July 12, 2014, 11:42:01 AM
QuoteIt's summer and, with silly season almost upon us, nice to have some good news to dwell on, in amongst the horror coming out of the Middle East. What could be nicer and more benign than a fat-cheeked baby, let alone a fat-cheeked baby who, as Vanity Fair puts it, "single-handedly brought moniker-flaunting clothing back into vogue"?

I have no idea what that means, but I do know that Vanity Fair's August cover story, featuring the first infant cover-star of that particular magazine since Suri Cruise in 2006, is hard to tear oneself away from. It celebrates the heir to the British throne's first birthday later this month and shows Prince George looking across at his dad while his mum regards both of them from above – in a way that is, according to the coverage of the coverage, almost unbearably adorable.

The British royal family has had enough bad press over the years for this attention to strike it like warm sun after rain, but there is something creepy about the fervor directed at Prince George. The media is, in this instance, behaving like that weirdo who stops you in the street to go on for slightly too long about how cute your baby is – or the stalker whose love reaches a pitch that is a few notches shy of reaching around the back to meet its polar opposite.

More: Don't make Prince George the next focus of the royal-watching freak show | Emma Brockes | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Cindy
Always be yourself.  Unless you can be a unicorn.  Then always be a unicorn.

TLLK

#42
July 13, 2014, 08:20:31 PM Last Edit: July 13, 2014, 08:42:19 PM by TLLK
 :goodpost: thank you for sharing the article. I hope that the press will consider this view. The press can find something or someone else to sell their papers and magazines.

LouisFerdinand

#43
July 23, 2016, 01:02:36 AM Last Edit: September 06, 2021, 02:14:53 PM by TLLK
         A thread to discuss the general news for Princess Anne and Timothy Laurence not related to royal duties.     


Princess Anne became fifty in 2000.       
                  Princess Anne's 50th Birthday - YouTube

LouisFerdinand

#44
October 25, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
When Princess Anne was married to Mark Phillips, could she have been titled HRH The Princess Anne, Lady Anne Phillips instead of HRH The Princess Anne, Mrs. Mark Phillips?

Jennifer

#46
March 05, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
QuotePrince William and Kate have always fiercely guarded their children's privacy and now that the family are moving from the countryside to central London, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are as keen as ever to protect their son Prince George and their daughter Princess Charlotte. A team of gardeners has been busy planting native conifer trees alongside Kensington Palace so that Prince William and Kate's home will be shielded from prying eyes. The family will relocate from their Norfolk mansion in time for George to start school in the autumn.

Royal sources have told HELLO! that the trees are being planted for reasons of "privacy and security". The conifers, which can grow to a height of more than 40ft, will create an 820-ft long wall along the western side of the palace, where William and Kate's residence, Apartment 1A, is located. The giant hedge will help to block the view from Kensington Palace Gardens, a private road that is home to some of London's wealthiest residents.

Last month it was announced that the Duke and Duchess and their children, George, three, and 21-month-old Charlotte, will be leaving Anmer Hall in Norfolk to make Kensington Palace their main residence. It coincides with William leaving his job as a helicopter pilot at East Anglian Air Ambulance so he can fulfil more royal duties. George, meanwhile, is expected to start at a junior school not far from the palace.

Read more:
Prince William and Kate Middleton's new plans to protect George and Charlotte
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LouisFerdinand

#47
March 06, 2017, 10:30:21 PM
Who actually pays for the conifer trees?

Curryong

#48
March 06, 2017, 10:47:53 PM
The conifer trees will be paid for by the tax payer, in one way or another!

sara8150

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September 13, 2017, 08:29:27 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2021, 06:35:48 PM by TLLK
Woman Arrested for Allegedly Breaking into Prince George's School
Woman Arrested for Attempted Burglary of Prince George's School
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Woman arrested over attempted burglary at Prince George's school
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Scuffle in the street outside Prince George's school as woman, 40, was arrested on suspicion of trying to break in duing four-year-old royal's first week
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Prince George's school security review after break-in
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Woman arrested on suspicion of trying to break in to Prince George's school
Woman arrested on suspicion of trying to break in to Prince George's school
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Security review at Prince George's school in Battersea after woman arrested over attempted break-in
Security review at Prince George's school in Battersea after woman arrested over attempted break-in
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Police review security after woman arrested at Prince George's school
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Security scare at Prince George's new school in Battersea
Security scare at Prince George's new school in Battersea | London - ITV News
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