Princess Beatrice e Edoardo

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wannable

Dating is a mine field.  Some people date for a long time and end up divorced quickly, live in and meet someone new and prefer the new one... 

dianab

Agree. This 30-years-old woman is living her life, let her be... according to all the accounts she's in love with her boyfriend.... good for her...

amabel

Quote from: dianab on August 07, 2019, 01:07:19 AM
Agree. This 30-years-old woman is living her life, let her be... according to all the accounts she's in love with her boyfriend.... good for her...
Its her affair.... if she's in love or not.. does not matter.. She's a gorwn woman, and its her life to live.  she's not a public figure.  Her marriage is not of any importance except to herself

sandy

It's not a matter of Her being in love it's a matter of the couple being in love with each other. It does matter if she marries someone who really does not love her. And she's in the media so the possible issues would play out in the media

amabel

Quote from: sandy on August 07, 2019, 01:48:39 PM
It's not a matter of Her being in love it's a matter of the couple being in love with each other. It does matter if she marries someone who really does not love her. And she's in the media so the possible issues would play out in the media
How is she in the media?  She gets  a bit of attention because of who she is but she's not a big story in the papers.  It matters to her, if she marries someone who doesn't love her.. but I can't see that she is popular enough iwht the public for them to care...

TLLK

Beatrice and Eduardo have to make the same decision that all couples who are together for love. They have to decide whether or not they want to move forward with making their relationship a more permanent one, stay as they are or to end it.

Yes Beatrice is a public figure but on a smaller scale  than her paternal grandparents, Uncle Charles, cousins William and Harry etc..It's very unlikely that she'll be a full time working royal. Yes like her more well known family members her relationship and any possible issues "would play out in the media" but that is something that everyone in every Windsor generation. Eventually we'll be reading about Louise and James' relationships. :shrug:

Quotebut I can't see that she is popular enough iwht the public for them to care...
It might warrant a few stories, but unless things are very messy there wouldn't be much coverage IMHO.

amabel

well Im sure she's a nice enough woman, and I wish her well but I feel no interest in her.. as she is not my generation.. and se'hs not done anything particularly interesting to make the papers pay any heed to her.  She's probably a typical socialite who dabbles in jobs.  and she's not important in the Royal family, as such.  If she married and divorced.. well it would be almost lke Davina Windsor whose marriage broke up ages ago and wasnt' reported for a time.  Its not like she's close in line for the throne...
And the tabloids are just not that into her so they would not get that excited over her if she had marital troubles

sandy

Davina is a cousin. Bea is a grandchild of HM the Queen.

amabel

Quote from: sandy on August 07, 2019, 08:12:13 PM
Davina is a cousin. Bea is a grandchild of HM the Queen.
She is not important.  the press have never favored her, and the public aren't interested in her....

dianab

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Quote from: amabel on August 07, 2019, 02:38:45 PM
well Im sure she's a nice enough woman, and I wish her well but I feel no interest in her.. as she is not my generation.. and se'hs not done anything particularly interesting to make the papers pay any heed to her.  She's probably a typical socialite who dabbles in jobs.  and she's not important in the Royal family, as such.  If she married and divorced.. well it would be almost lke Davina Windsor whose marriage broke up ages ago and wasnt' reported for a time.  Its not like she's close in line for the throne...
And the tabloids are just not that into her so they would not get that excited over her if she had marital troubles
i dont think 20/30-somethings are very interested at B or her sister... of course there are people who likes follow royals and like them and follow them... but she's not someone who can to be considered a celebrity... william, harry and their wives yes... i think the duchess of kent in 1970s was probably somehow famous or had a lot of media spotlight but NOW minor royals really arent noteworthy to people

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Quote from: sandy on August 07, 2019, 01:48:39 PM
It's not a matter of Her being in love it's a matter of the couple being in love with each other. It does matter if she marries someone who really does not love her. And she's in the media so the possible issues would play out in the media
maybe few articles here and there like sometimes is seen about anne and her current hubby... but nothing compared like if it was william, harry  & respective wives... if that will be the case between b and her italian beau, they obviously can got divorced and move on to new partners... beatrice and her sister really are socialites... they wont to be imoprtant people in that family like anne. so whatever mistakes in their private lives, it's pretty much their bussiness.

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Quote from: sandy on August 07, 2019, 08:12:13 PM
Davina is a cousin. Bea is a grandchild of HM the Queen.
socially to the public and press davina, gabriella windosr and beatrice are the same. probably the public more interested at both are tatler readers, maybe nor them so much! if any of them divorce it'll be what that's/will be

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to me, beatrice is just another 30-years-old socialite out there... i dont think she's anything alike the weirdo out-of-touch 30-years-old charles was or anything compared to sheltered virginal 19-years-old Lady Diana was.

LouisFerdinand

If Beatrice and Edoardo do get engaged, will the press compare Beatrice's engagement to Princess Eugenie's engagement?


Curryong

Probably. I'm more interested to see if there's a full-on wedding at St George's Windsor or not and how they're going to justify the expense twice in two or so years with Andrew and Fergie's reputation the way it is, if there is one. If Beatrice is wise she could go for a very smart Church in London (Guards Chapel/St George's Hanover Square perhaps) instead, and forego the carriage ride and the parade of the marching bearskins.

There's a large difference, anyway.. Eugenie was with Jack since her late  teens. There were no children involved, no serious live-in lover for Jack or her as far as we know, and neither were in their thirties when they wed.

However, the media aren't likely to zoom in on this couple. Both Yorkies are far enough down the line for them to have a truly private life. For instance nobody knew till recently that Beatrice  is living with Eduardo and looking after his son while the boy's mother is overseas. When it's a senior Royal the Press are very much like guided missiles when it comes to something like that.

amabel

I think its due to an increased indifference about the RF as a whole and particulary the less "important ones".  Years ago, princesses like Bea and Eug would be doing some royal duties and there would be a lot of notice about their romantic lives.  Now there is very little, they are not doing royal duties, and instead of the public wanting to see their weddings (grumbling about the cost but still enjoying the spectacle) there is a real feeling that the costs and problems like security outweigh any pleasure from the spectacle..

Blue Clover

If Beatrice does marry Edo I really hope they don't have a huge, multi-million dollar wedding. I think something in a small chapel with Edo's son as the ringbearer would be appropriate and very nice.

amabel

Quote from: Blue Clover on August 16, 2019, 03:11:00 AM
If Beatrice does marry Edo I really hope they don't have a huge, multi-million dollar wedding. I think something in a small chapel with Edo's son as the ringbearer would be appropriate and very nice.
Idont really care.. In that Bea is not of any interest to me nor her boyfriend.. but I don't think she wil have much of a grand wedding.. due to the ANdrew scandals.  At least I hope she will have the minimal common sense not to expect such a thng as I do not thnk that the public would be very tolerant of it...

TLLK

Quote from: Curryong on August 15, 2019, 03:27:09 AM
Probably. I'm more interested to see if there's a full-on wedding at St George's Windsor or not and how they're going to justify the expense twice in two or so years with Andrew and Fergie's reputation the way it is, if there is one. If Beatrice is wise she could go for a very smart Church in London (Guards Chapel/St George's Hanover Square perhaps) instead, and forego the carriage ride and the parade of the marching bearskins.

There's a large difference, anyway.. Eugenie was with Jack since her late  teens. There were no children involved, no serious live-in lover for Jack or her as far as we know, and neither were in their thirties when they wed.

However, the media aren't likely to zoom in on this couple. Both Yorkies are far enough down the line for them to have a truly private life. For instance nobody knew till recently that Beatrice  is living with Eduardo and looking after his son while the boy's mother is overseas. When it's a senior Royal the Press are very much like guided missiles when it comes to something like that.
I could see them marrying at St. George's chapel as it has become the de facto wedding venue for approximately half of the Windsors in recent decades: Wessexes, Sussexes, etc..Security on site inside of Windsor Castle shouldn't be too much of an issue, but IMO the real costs would be for the streets of Windsor in order to protect the public. IMO the carriage ride should be limited to just inside the estate (like Peter/Autumn) if they choose to have one. Going out into Windsor sends the costs skyrocketing.

amabel

I think if they get married they really should make this one a private wedding.. no carriage ride, a few photos... no televising of it.  Bea is unlucky but Andrew's stock has gone donw a lot now.. and wherever they get married I think it wodl be best if her wedding was that of a private citizen

Princess Cassandra

Many of us are interested because we hope this relationship has a happy outcome after what happened to her before. Breaking up following a VERY long romance had to have been painful when it was public news...then he married someone else not long after, making it worse. I felt so bad for her.

amabel

Im afraid that in the present circumstanaces, Beatrice whatever she does with her romance, should keep a low profile

MarcoPolo

First let me say, I absolutely loved Princess Eugenie's wedding! But I kind of felt it was a mistake to make it such a big public, televised event, because now, they sort of have to do the same for Princess Beatrice. She is older, higher up in the line of succession and will become one of the Counsellers of State when Charles becomes King. So, I don't think they can give Beatrice a lesser wedding than Eugenie.

TLLK

IMO something similar to Peter and Zara's respective weddings would be best for QEII and the DoE's grandchildren who are not part of the Wales family. I really enjoyed aspects of Eugenie and Jack's weddings but I believe that the carriage ride through Windsor was unwise due to the security needs and their costs.
When the time comes, I believe that Beatrice and later Louise/James should have the option of marrying at St.George's if they wish, but that it should be low key like the Phillps' weddings and more recently Lady Gabriella's.

I believe going forward that Westminster Abbey should be the venue for George's wedding but that his siblings should marry at St. George's Chapel.

amabel

Quote from: MarcoPolo on August 19, 2019, 12:54:21 PM
First let me say, I absolutely loved Princess Eugenie's wedding! But I kind of felt it was a mistake to make it such a big public, televised event, because now, they sort of have to do the same for Princess Beatrice. She is older, higher up in the line of succession and will become one of the Counsellers of State when Charles becomes King. So, I don't think they can give Beatrice a lesser wedding than Eugenie.
They can and they should

oak_and_cedar


Certainly PB can marry whoever she wants and she seem to like this guy. However, to me, he seems a bit aloof and calculated. She'll probably marry him and it will last a couple of years.

Is there any clarification about the timeline of when him and his child's mother ended things?



Curryong

When things ended with Eduardo and his previous girlfriend and when he and Beatrice started dating has been in the realms of conjecture it seems. There was an article from November 2018 that broke some story of his girlfriend having been turfed out of Edo's flat and forced forced to couch surf.

That same article stated that Beatrice and Eduardo had been dating 'for a couple of months', which would bring it back to just before Eugenie's wedding. Something happened between Edo and his girlfriend  in September/October 2018 I think, and Edo decided to move on. On the other hand if he'd been seriously dating Beatrice for many months at that time you would think that he would have been her escort for her sister's wedding/reception etc.  I don't think we'll ever get an exact timeline of how everything worked out.

dianab

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Quote from: Princess Cassandra on August 19, 2019, 07:04:02 AM
Many of us are interested because we hope this relationship has a happy outcome after what happened to her before. Breaking up following a VERY long romance had to have been painful when it was public news...then he married someone else not long after, making it worse. I felt so bad for her.
only they knows what was the state of their relationship and what were their feelings about each other when they broke up... maybe they just had got used to each other and the whole thing overlasted

btw i think she likes italian men, before this one she was seen one or two italian men

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Quote from: oak_and_cedar on August 20, 2019, 10:22:42 AM
Certainly PB can marry whoever she wants and she seem to like this guy. However, to me, he seems a bit aloof and calculated. She'll probably marry him and it will last a couple of years.

Is there any clarification about the timeline of when him and his child's mother ended things?



the most recent i read is his ex praised him on her insta, or is following him... looks like they are on good terms