QuoteThe fragile parchment, bearing royal insignia, was sent to a pope by a deposed monarch begging for her life.
While the letter addressed to Sixtus V failed to save Mary, Queen of Scots from the executioner's sword, the document itself has survived buried in the bowels of the Vatican's secret archives for more than 400 years.
It is among 100 of the most historically significant items of confidential correspondence due to go on public display for the first time in a special exhibition in Rome.
The priceless collection spans more than a millennium, from the eighth century to modern times, and features a cast of historical characters who have crossed swords with a succession of pontiffs, from Knights Templar to Galileo, Martin Luther and Henry VIII.
Mary wrote the missive from her prison cell at Fotheringhay Castle in Northamptonshire just three months before she was executed following her long incarceration.
Read more: Mary Queen of Scots sent letter begging for her life to Vatican before execution | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079036/Mary-Queen-Scots-sent-letter-begging-life-Vatican-execution.html)
Cindy
QuoteA 450-year-old letter written by Mary Queen of Scots will be put up for sale at an auction next week.
The letter, which was unearthed at Blair Castle, Ayrshire, is said to have been written to the then Laird of Blair, relieving him of his duties at court due to gout.
Dated 14 March 1554, it has been valued at £3,000 and is one of more than 1,000 lots to come from the castle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17303778
Cindy
With video:
QuoteMary Queen of Scots Letter Sells for More Than £6,000
A 450-year-old letter described as one of the world's oldest sick notes has been sold at auction in Edinburgh.
In it, Mary Queen of Scots excuses a nobleman from his duties because he was suffering from gout.
The letter was dated 14 March 1554 and was recently verified as having been written by Mary in her own hand.
The 16th Century document came from Blair Castle in Ayrshire and sold for more than £6,000 at Lyon and Turnbull's auction.
The letter was sent by Mary to the Laird of Blair, and relieved him of his duties at court as he was suffering from the painful condition, which attacks the big toe.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17389775
Cindy
Queen's Diamond Jubilee Royal River Pageant: 1,000 boats prepare to take to the Thames | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144492/Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-Royal-River-Pageant-1-000-boats-prepare-to-Thames.html)
QuoteThe fragile parchment, bearing royal insignia, was sent to a pope by a deposed monarch begging for her life.
While the letter addressed to Sixtus V failed to save Mary, Queen of Scots from the executioner's sword, the document itself has survived buried in the bowels of the Vatican's secret archives for more than 400 years.
It is among 100 of the most historically significant items of confidential correspondence due to go on public display for the first time in a special exhibition in Rome.
Mary Queen of Scots sent letter begging for her life to Vatican before execution | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079036/Mary-Queen-Scots-sent-letter-begging-life-Vatican-execution.html#ixzz1hmhW4Soy)
Cindy
QuoteThe chalice, known as the Luck of Workington, will be unveiled by Susan Thornely, head of the Curwen family, at the Helena Thompson Museum.
The communion cup was given to the Curwens by Mary Queen of Scots in 1568 on the last night of her freedom as a reward for their hospitality. When she handed it over, she told the town it would bring luck.
It has been in the Curwen family's possession ever since and moved to Carlisle 40 years ago with the family.
Times & Star | Mary Queen of Scots communion cup returns to Workington (http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/mary-queen-of-scots-communion-cup-returns-to-workington-1.1020186?referrerPath=home)
Cindy
QuoteThe Marie Stuart Society said Mary's tale of murder and intrigue had made her famous across the globe, but she still does not have an official statue.
Mary was executed on the orders of her cousin Queen Elizabeth I in 1587.
The society want to raise about £100,000 for a full-size bronze statue of Mary, possibly at her birthplace of Linlithgow Palace.
Mary Stuart was born at Linlithgow Palace on 7 December 1542. When she was six days old her father, James V, died and she became queen of Scotland.
She later lost the support of the nobility by marrying the Earl of Bothwell three months after the death of her husband the Earl of Darnley - who some believe had been murdered.
BBC News - Mary, Queen of Scots statue call (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22472478)
Cindy
Will they get it though?
^^ Only if they can raise £100,000 and find a sculpture and a foundry. Looks like they've got a high mountain to climb.
QuoteMary Queen of Scots to Stand in Linlithgow Peel
Mary Queen of Scots will again take up residence on Linlithgow Peel in a few
years if £100,000 is found.
Land has been identified in the grounds of the Queen’s birthplace for a lifesize statue cast in bronze, after years of work by the Marie Stuart Society, which has 200
members as far flung as New Zealand and the USA.
Ian Lumsdaine of the Society said: “Around five years ago, we asked a sculptor to design a maquette of Mary (pictured). We decided to use this exact model to scale up into a lifesize five foot eleven and a half inch statue - the detail is superb and it will be beautiful. Unfortunately the sculptor has since died, so we need to find another sculptor and a foundry to cast it in bronze.”
Mary Queen of Scots to stand in Linlithgow Peel - Local Headlines - Linlithgow Journal and Gazette (http://www.linlithgowgazette.co.uk/news/local-headlines/mary-queen-of-scots-to-stand-in-linlithgow-peel-1-2934531)
Cindy
QuoteAustralian actress Adelaide Kane is to play Mary, Queen of Scots in a new US drama. But she is not the first actress to portray the troubled royal.
Kane, who has previously appeared in Neighbours, will appear as the 16th Century monarch in Reign on US television in the autumn.
The 22-year-old is the latest in a long line of film and television stars to portray the queen, who was born at Linlithgow Palace in 1542.
BBC News - Leading ladies: The many faces of Mary, Queen of Scots (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22652469)
Cindy
QuoteOne of the most important early jewels in the Royal Collection is among a number of objects lent by The Queen to an exhibition about the life of Mary, Queen of Scots at the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh.
The exhibition Mary, Queen of Scots explores the tragic Queen's story through jewels, textiles, furniture, documents, portraits and rare objects intimately connected to Mary. Opening on Friday, 28 June, it includes the famous Darnley Jewel and several paintings from the Royal Collection.
The Darnley or Lennox Jewel, an impressive gold enamelled locket, is set with rubies and emeralds and contains concealed compartments. It is likely to have been made for Mary's mother-in-law, Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox, following the death of her husband Matthew, Earl of Lennox, Regent of Scotland in 1571. The heart-shaped jewel was intended to be worn around the neck or on the breast. Its complex iconography relates to the shared life of the Earl and Countess, whose son, Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, was Mary, Queen of Scots' second husband. The Latin inscription around the edge of the locket also reveals the couple's ambitions for their grandson, the future James VI. This translates as 'Who hopes still constantly with patience shall obtain victory in their claim', perhaps a reassurance that James would one day take the throne.
Mary, Queen of Scots exhibition | Royal Collection Trust (http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/news/mary-queen-of-scots-exhibition)
Cindy
QuoteA 16th century fountain column linked to Mary, Queen of Scots is to go on display as part of an exhibition exploring her life.
The column was part of a water feature installed in the courtyard of Linlithgow Palace at the court of Mary's father, James V.
The fountain, which dates to around 1538, is thought to be one of the oldest surviving in the UK.
BBC News - 'Mary, Queen of Scots' fountain column to go on display (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23001198)
Cindy
QuoteExhibition Reveals the Real Mary, Queen of Scots
Try this today. Ask people who they think is Scotland's most famous woman. In response I got a couple of JK Rowlings, an Annie Lennox or two, even a Dolly the Sheep from Confused of Marchmont, but the vast majority of people immediately plump for Mary, Queen of Scots.
Almost 500 years after her birth she still exerts huge fascination despite the fact her reign as queen in her own right only lasted from 1561 to 1567. Short-lived it may have been, but it was action-packed. Mary's time on earth was crammed with romance, murder, mystery, betrayals, imprisonment and finally a beheading. The full facts may never be known – was she involved in her second husband's murder, abducted and raped by her third? Despite the intense scrutiny she has always attracted, it's not clear.
Exhibition reveals the real Mary, Queen of Scots - Heritage - Scotsman.com (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/exhibition-reveals-the-real-mary-queen-of-scots-1-2973998)
Cindy
QuoteThe face of Mary, Queen of Scots has been recreated in 3D by a team of experts from the University of Dundee.
The team were commissioned to produce a virtual sculpture of Mary's face, for a new exhibition opening in Edinburgh.
They have previously worked on major projects to reconstruct the faces of Bach and Richard III, among others.
BBC News - Mary, Queen of Scots modelled in 3D (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23086520)
Cindy
BBC News - In pictures: Mary, Queen of Scots (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23047127)
Cindy
Thank you! Thank you, Cindy! I love that period in history! :hug: :flower:
OMG! I haven't seen these mini-series about Mary! :pullhair:
BBC News - Leading ladies: The many faces of Mary, Queen of Scots (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22652469)
Found this through your link. :) Interesting her face is similar to what I imagined as I read about her... :happy:
It's interesting, but they've modeled the 3-D face on a painting that doesn't seem to be very specific in terms of features. There is a death mask that is purported to be hers (eyelashes and eyebrows added, of course).
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rgCry1Ucn2Y/TC2L93eVt8I/AAAAAAAAEII/OS9U5IYxWkg/s1600/Queen+Mary+Deathmask.jpg
Here's the effigy on her tomb:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3696612986_817e9c839a.jpg
Cindy
You're welcome, Limabeany. :flower: Mary's story has always fascinated me. It's probably one of the most interesting stories in the Tudor period of the Renaissance.
Cindy
Quote from: cinrit on June 28, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
You're welcome, Limabeany. :flower: Mary's story has always fascinated me. It's probably one of the most interesting stories in the Tudor period of the Renaissance.
Cindy
:yesss: :yesss: :yesss:
The 3D model looks more like the tomb than the alleged deathmask. The deathmask version is beautiful and moving even peaceful and angelic. What do you think? Did you imagine her when readng about her?
She was supposedly very tall and a great beauty. Elizabeth (I) was jealous of her because of this. I don't know if the death mask is really hers, but I don't think the 3-D image is a good representation. Depending on the artist, portraits back then weren't very detailed, so it's hard to know what anyone really looked like, and I wouldn't call this portrait of Mary anywhere near "great beauty". Hard to know, though...
Cindy
It definitely is not that of a great beauty, interesting. True, it's going to hard revising the picture of her in my mind, but I like the image of her as a beauty.
There is a channel on YouTube, where someone photoshopped portraits of different historical figures ... off-hand, I can remember seeing Marie Antoinette and Anne Boleyn ... to what they would look like today, based on those portraits. I'm going out in a few minutes, but if I remember when I get back, I'll see if I can find them again. They were quite interesting.
Cindy
I hope you find them! :happy20: :happy20: :happy20: :happy20:
Here they are ... not sure if the portrait of Anne Boleyn is actually Anne Boleyn, though ... it's more likely Jane Seymour.
Anne Boleyn:
The Face of Anne Boleyn (Photoshop Reconstruction) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXyPEqB5FHc)
Marie Antoinette:
Revealing the Face of Marie Antoinette (Photoshop Reconstruction) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRy9sWnrueE)
Eleanor of Aquitaine:
The Face of Eleanor of Aquitaine (Photoshop Reconstruction) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVOFwLfchWA)
Marc Antony:
The Face of Mark Antony (Photoshop Reconstruction) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ku4S5Q2kY)
Probably not very accurate, but fun. :happy:
Cindy
It is wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :vday4: :vday4: :vday4: :vday4:
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just watched Anne, moving down the line now. :happy15:
:thumbsup: :)
Cindy
Not a beauty, but I don't know what the standard of beauty was at the time.
QuoteShe is one of the best known figures in Scottish history, her life encompassed by tragedy, scandal and romance.
But how many people know of Mary, Queen of Scots' love of hunting, card games and playing the lute?
A major exhibition at the National Museum of Scotland is, for the first time, bringing together a fascinating display of items from public and private collections in Scotland, England and France to explore the myth and reality surrounding the enigmatic figurehead.
Through a unique gathering of letters, paintings, jewellery, textiles, furniture, drawings, maps and documents, museum bosses hope to be able to present a compelling picture of the queen's life.
Mary, Queen of Scots exhibition to examine monarch?s life - Features - Scotsman.com (http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/features/mary-queen-of-scots-exhibition-to-examine-monarch-s-life-1-2983603)
Cindy
QuoteWe imagine her dressed in martyr's black, with a gold cross and a Catholic rosary around her doomed neck. And when Mary, Queen of Scots arrived in Scotland from France in 1561 she did indeed own more than 20 lavish black gowns, which were the height of French fashion.
But she wasn't always dressed in black; she had gowns of gold and silver, carnation and crimson; a blue satin gown embroidered with silver palm trees. Indeed, it took 12 ships to carry all her clothes, furniture and gold and silver plate.
Mary was 18 and a beautiful widow. Queen of Scotland by birth – she had acceded the throne at just six days old on the death of her father James V of Scotland – she was also dowager Queen of France by marriage, since the death of her husband, Francis II, eight months previously.
Mary, Queen of Scots suffered betrayal, torment and imprisonment - now, as two dramas tell her story, forensic experts recreate what she really looked (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2394671/Mary-Queen-Scots-suffered-betrayal-torment-imprisonment--dramas-tell-story-forensic-experts-recreate-really-looked-like.html)
Cindy
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks: Cindy! :happy20: :happy20: :happy20: I love the Tudor period! :hug:
Me, too, Limabeany! I have torn feelings about Mary Queen of Scots. Lots of sympathy for her, but confusion over whether or not she was involved in plots to assassinate Elizabeth I. I kinda think she was heavily involved.
Cindy
Quote from: cinrit on August 17, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Me, too, Limabeany! I have torn feelings about Mary Queen of Scots. Lots of sympathy for her, but confusion over whether or not she was involved in plots to assassinate Elizabeth I. I kinda think she was heavily involved.
Cindy
I feel the exact same way! From France to Scotland, that is unimaginable in those days. Under those circumstances, and in that period she was no definitely no wallflower, I cannot imagine her as a passive bystander watching others determine how her future unfolds and yet... I know those were hard times but I think I just don't want her to have been involved in the plots but I think it likely she had knowledge of it. It seems if her head was at risk she should not have been in the dark...
A brutal time in history. I'd like to go back for a couple of days, but no longer. I'm afraid I'd end up on the chopping block! :o How about you?
Cindy
I would to see first hand the costumes, the lighting, the scenery, the clear skies, the palaces... But I don't know how strong willed women managed to not get their heads chopped off. They probably all had ulcers from having to hold their tongues, although there have always been good fathers and husbands, simply because there have always been kind people. But, I have to tell you my biggest fear is the, ahem... how shall I call them... Nature ports of call (or lack thereof)... Every time I am immersed in any historical novel, and wish fervently to travel in time and see it myself, I come out of my reverie thanking God for living in a time where flushing is common... But, now I'll have a new fear, knowing me... the chopping block should be a greater fear! :happy15:
Strong tongues didn't do women much good ... Anne Boleyn, Margaret Pole Countess of Salisbury (whom the executioner had to chase around the scaffold), Jane Boleyn (Anne's sister-in-law), Mary Queen of Scots, even Henry VIII's last wife who outlived him was in danger of being sent to the Tower ... much better to keep one's thoughts to oneself, something most of us today would have a hard time doing. :hehe:
Cindy
I would love to go back, but for maybe just a few hours :hehe:
My thing would be, because people didn't really bathe back then, and only wore perfume to cover up any smells, it must have stank to high heaven
Anyone who's been on a Paris train or Perfume shop can relate. :girlvomit: :girlvomit: :girlvomit:
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Quote from: cinrit on August 17, 2013, 03:24:18 PM
Strong tongues didn't do women much good ... Anne Boleyn, Margaret Pole Countess of Salisbury (whom the executioner had to chase around the scaffold), Jane Boleyn (Anne's sister-in-law), Mary Queen of Scots, even Henry VIII's last wife who outlived him was in danger of being sent to the Tower ... much better to keep one's thoughts to oneself, something most of us today would have a hard time doing. :hehe:
Cindy
I agree. Thank God time travel is impossible! :vday4:
I remember reading long ago about a letter from Mary Queen of Scots' mother to her in France. In it, she said to make sure to wash her hair once a month. Eeek!!
Cindy
How very indulgent of her - yuk-a-rooney!
I've read stories that they would chuck their...ahem....waste.... out of the window :eyes:
Needs must I suppose.
^^ Right into the streets! :gross: :puke:
Cindy
Quote from: cinrit on August 17, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
I remember reading long ago about a letter from Mary Queen of Scots' mother to her in France. In it, she said to make sure to wash her hair once a month. Eeek!!
Cindy
Didn't it stick together? Become unmanageable? I wish one could know the details of life in the period... (Without having to experience it first hand, of course :happy15:)
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Quote from: cinrit on August 17, 2013, 06:43:35 PM
^^ Right into the streets! :gross: :puke:
Cindy
I've seen it in some movies... :girlvomit: :puke:
Limabeany, I suppose the hair got greasy and icky. I know that you can put powder in your hair and brush it out and your hair will be a little cleaner. They do that for some bed bound patients now. Anyway, by the 17th Century, people were wearing wigs to either cover the lice that lived in their hair or to hide the fact that they'd shaved their heads to eliminate the lice.
Mary Queen of Scots was wearing a wig when she was executed, but I don't know if that was the reason for the wig.
Cindy
Their hair couldn't have survived to old age in a great condition with that treament... :) We are so lucky!
We sure are! :thumbsup:
Cindy
Interesting for sure!!
History Undressed: History of Hygiene: Bathing, Teeth Cleaning, Toileting, & Deodorizing (http://www.historyundressed.com/2008/07/history-of-hygiene-bathing-teeth.html)
Tudor Hygiene | The Medieval Society (http://www.medievalsociety.org/2007/12/18/tudor-hygiene/)
Tudor Hygiene (http://onthetudortrail.com/Blog/resources/life-in-tudor-england/tudor-hygiene-part-1-bathing/)
Tudor Hygiene (http://www.schoolsliaison.org.uk/blakesleyhall/tudortimes/wash.htm)
Thanks, Limabeany! Elizabeth I was said to be one of the most fastidious monarchs (bathed once a month). And her teeth were said to be black (rotted) by the time she reached old age. (And don't forget her red wig.) I'm off to read these in detail. :thanks:
Cindy
Me too! Looking forward to your comments. :hug:
I only have one comment .... ugh!!! :lol: Now we know why they had to move from castle to castle periodically, so the previous one could be cleaned out and the old rushes burned and new ones put down. :wacko: How about you, Limabeany?
Cindy
I forgot about summer!!!!!!!
Quote...wearing Tudor clothes in peak summer would have been a very sweaty affair and to try and keep the clothes smelling fresh, without the modern conveniences of deodorant...would have been very difficult.
Quote...many of the wealthy were huge fans of linens – these were undergarments that could be easily washed and changed and essentially absorbed the sweat and body odors leaving their outer garments 'clean' as most were not able to be washed...ever.
QuoteOne quick remedy for this was actually to bathe with vinegar which helped to neutralize body odors
QuoteFor peasants, a toilet was a bucket in the corner of the room that was tossed into the river, or a bucket behind the house, or a tree in the forest. No privies for these folks. Unfortunately water for cooking and bathing came from the same river...shudder...Perhaps this is why they thought bathing could make you ill?
And then they walked around smelling like vinegar! Not sure which is worse. :D
Cindy
These must have been a blessing!
QuoteNose-gays (literally kept the nose happy, or gay!) became popular when walking in the court or through crowds. A nosegay was something to keep the smells at bay, held in the hand, on the writs on a lapel. They could be a small bouquet of flowers, a sachet of dried flowers and herbs, an orange studded with cloves, or a sprig of herbs. People would often hold it up to their noses when walking in a large crowd.
Quote from: LIMABEANY on August 17, 2013, 02:06:43 PM
Quote from: cinrit on August 17, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Me, too, Limabeany! I have torn feelings about Mary Queen of Scots. Lots of sympathy for her, but confusion over whether or not she was involved in plots to assassinate Elizabeth I. I kinda think she was heavily involved.
Cindy
I feel the exact same way! From France to Scotland, that is unimaginable in those days. Under those circumstances, and in that period she was no definitely no wallflower, I cannot imagine her as a passive bystander watching others determine how her future unfolds and yet... I know those were hard times but I think I just don't want her to have been involved in the plots but I think it likely she had knowledge of it. It seems if her head was at risk she should not have been in the dark...
of course she was involved in the Plots to kill Eliz and probably the one to kill Darnley.
I believe so, too, Amabel. I also don't believe Bothwell forced her to marry him. I think she was a willing bride.
Cindy
QuoteSince 1971 film-makers have tried to emulate the Oscar-winning success of Mary, Queen of Scots, starring Vanessa Redgrave and Glenda Jackson as the tragic Scottish queen and her nemesis, Elizabeth I. Aborted later attempts include one by Hollywood's actress-producer Scarlett Johansson and British director Alexander Mackendrick.
Two UK productions are still at early stages, but a Swiss film-maker has beaten them to it with a sympathetic psychological portrait set to be an art-house hit. Zurich-based Thomas Imbach has directed, produced and co-written the film, with Camille Rutherford playing Mary, which has been singled out for this season's festivals at Locarno and Toronto.
More than 400 years after she was executed by Elizabeth, the Protestant Queen of England, Mary Stuart remains the most enigmatic royal in Britain's history. Imbach said he has tried to represent her as "neither a saintly heroine motivated by Catholicism nor ambitious queen obsessed with power, but as a modern woman, passionate and fragile". The film is based on Austrian novelist Stefan Zweig's 1935 biography, Mary Stuart, a long-term bestseller in Germany and France but out of print in England and the US for decades.
After 400 years Mary, Queen of Scots again captures the fascination of film-makers | Film | The Observer (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/17/mary-queen-of-scots-films-exhibition)
Cindy
A string of Mary films!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:mbb: :mbb: :mbb: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :thanks: :happy20: :happy20: :happy20: :banana: :banana: :banana:
I hope they stick at least a little closer to the facts than most historical movies do. The best Mary Queen of Scots movie so far was the one with Vanessa Redgrave as Mary, and Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth I ("Mary, Queen of Scots" in 1971 or '72). But the movie had the two queens not only meeting in person, but meeting in person twice. In real life, they never met.
Cindy
I agree.
^^But why have a movie with two Hollywood legends if you're never going to have them share the screen? :teehee:
^I agree.
Quote from: cinrit on August 18, 2013, 11:56:51 AM
I believe so, too, Amabel. I also don't believe Bothwell forced her to marry him. I think she was a willing bride.
Cindy
MM not sure about that. I think that she wanted rid of Darnely but wasn't' so sure she wanted Bohtwell. he might have raped her and forced her to marry him. She certainly abandoned him pretty quickly.. and wanted rid of the marriage
I think they were parted because they more or less had to, weren't they? Mary thought she could get safe passage to England, but Bothwell was not included. I'd have to go back and re-read up on that part, but I got the impression she deserted him to save her life. Not a great love story, that's true. She ended up imprisoned by Elizabeth I, and he ended up stark raving mad in a prison in ... was it Denmark?
Cindy
True... Dramatic effect...
Yes, but she would have certainly been better to go to France than to England, since she had laid claim to the English throne so it was kind of foolish to expect Elizabeth to shelter her. And once imprisoned Mary started to look for a divorce from Bohtwell and made plans to marry the Duke of Norfolk. The odds are that either she married him because she believed he could control Scotland for her and when that was not the case, she dropped him. or that she used him to get rid of Darnley, but didn't intend to marry him as a reward. When he had done the job of getting rid of Darnley, odds are that either she did voluntarily marry him, OR he raped her to forced her into it. He did die insane in Denmark.
I think the reason she didn't go to France was because of Catherine d'Medici. Catherine disliked her because of jealousy. Or am I remembering wrong? Of course, expecting Elizabeth to greet her with open arms was ridiculous, but she may have thought since Elizabeth was her cousin, she'd be safe.
Cindy
I think there's no fathoming Mary Stuarts behaviour because she was really dim! She had relatives in France, she had lands, and while Cath De Medici might not have wanted her, she would certialnly have been safer there. As someone said "how very foolish to claim a throne and then fly for protection to the person whose throne you have claimed!"
Very true ... at least she would've been safe in France. It probably would never have occurred to her that it would end the way it did, but she should've considered the possibility of being imprisoned. Didn't Elizabeth deny her safe passage, anyway?
Cindy
Yes, through England so Mary went straight to Leith from Calais.
Quote from: cinrit on August 19, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
Very true ... at least she would've been safe in France. It probably would never have occurred to her that it would end the way it did, but she should've considered the possibility of being imprisoned. Didn't Elizabeth deny her safe passage, anyway?
Cindy
When she was travelling to Scotland from France IIRC Eliz refused her safe passage unless she gave up her claim to the English throne.
Quote from: cinrit on August 18, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
I ("Mary, Queen of Scots" in 1971 or '72). But the movie had the two queens not only meeting in person, but meeting in person twice. In real life, they never met.
Cindy
But that is a dramatic device which I think is necessary in the conext of the film, so that Eliz and Mary can argue about their roles as queens.
1972. :vday4: I haven't liked any scene where they have them meet, Mary always comes across as evil to Liz's righteousness.
Hardly. As Eliz says if Mary's head had been as good as her heart, she'd have been a great Queen.
I said that they portray Mary in those scenes as not as righteous as Liz not that she wasn't.
Elizabeth comes off as very arrogant in their last scene together, not long before Mary is beheaded.
Another thing that Elizabeth said in the movie that has stuck with me was (comparing herself to Mary), "That Queen has the heart of a woman. This woman has the heart of a Queen." Or words to that effect.
Cindy
well Mary IS a lousy Queen IMO. As a person, she might have been very sweet and warm but as a queen she was silly and self indulgent and disastrous.
^^ True. True. :no:
Cindy
Trailer for Mary Queen of Scots
MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjOWH0g2D9Y)
Thomas Imbach's "Mary Queen of Scots" Trailer | Pop Insomniacs (http://popinsomniacs.com/2013/08/21/thomas-imbachs-mary-queen-of-scots-trailer/)
Seems a bit modern and theatrical... :blank:
Quote
A Queen Who Lost Three Kingdoms.
A Wife Who Lost Three Husbands.
A Woman Who Lost Her Head.
Thomas Imbach's Mary Queen of Scots is based on Stefan Zweig's book Maria Stuart which explores the life and "passionate character" of the ill-fated queen who was condemned for treason by her cousin – Queen Elizabeth I – and subsequently beheaded. The trailer above, which shows the film to be moody and small in scale, jumps right into Mary's relationship with Elizabeth.
Another upcoming film that explores the life and legacy of the Scottish-French queen will be directed by Susanne Bier, with Irish actress Saoirse Ronan in the role of Mary. And earlier this year, The CW network picked up Reign, a period drama that follows Mary's teenage years. Australian actress Adelaide Kane, who recently played Cora in MTV's Teen Wolf, will play Mary. So, it definitely looks like Mary has gained some resurgence in popularity.
Imbach's Mary Queen of Scots will be screened at TIFF (Toronto International Film Festival) next month. It stars Camille Rutherford as Mary.
Thanks, Limabeany. Yeah, I wasn't happy with the trailer. Looks to be quite fictionalized. The only thing I recognized as fact was the last line: "In my end will be my beginning."
Cindy
You're welcome. I wasn't happy at all. She doesn't convey the strength and spunk and manner I imagine Mary to have had...
QuoteThe National Museum's Mary Queen of Scots exhibition paints a more positive and colourful picture of Scotland's past than you might expect, says Duncan Macmillan
There is an oak chest in the National Museum's Mary Queen of Scots exhibition that at first sight looks like a fine, but unexceptional, piece of late medieval furniture.
Research suggests otherwise. It carries the monogram IM, used by James IV and his wife Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VIII. It is also made of Scottish oak. Chests to store fine clothes were associated with marriages. The marriage of James and Margaret took place in 1503 and so, without too much stretch of the imagination, this could well be the marriage chest of Margaret Tudor (although as a queen she certainly had more than one). If it is, then this is Scotland's Pandora's Box, for it was out of that marriage that the whole story of the Union evolved. Exactly a century later, in 1603, James VI, great-grandson of James IV and Margaret and so great-great grandson of Henry VII, inherited the English throne, his cousin Elizabeth having no other heir.
Mary Queen of Scots shown in right royal colours - Visual Arts - The Scotsman (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/arts/visual-arts/mary-queen-of-scots-shown-in-right-royal-colours-1-3070548)
Cindy
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks: Cindy!
QuoteCertainly the Stewarts, or Stuarts as they became, had bad luck. Nevertheless, although we hear about the Tudors, ad nauseam, they were a pretty unpleasant bunch and as a dynasty lasted little more than 100 years. The Stuarts, on the other hand, in spite of all their misfortunes, lasted almost 350 years from the accession of Robert II in 1371 to the death of Queen Anne in 1714. They also brought about the Union of England and Scotland, and whatever you feel about it, that was something that English kings had been trying to achieve since Athelstan and with notable lack of success.
In fact both James IV and James V were European Renaissance princes, energetic and imaginative rulers of one of the earliest self-conscious, modern nation states. The title that James V's daughter, Mary, is always given "of Scots" was the title of all Scottish monarchs. They were kings and queens of their people, not their territory. Even Mary was much more than a sort of 16th-century Lady Di. She made some bad choices, but she showed pragmatism too, and perhaps no-one could have ridden the storms of the Reformation which eventually overwhelmed her.
Although when we look back to that time, what we see is mostly fragments and ruins and this seems to confirm the gloomy view of Scottish history that tragedies like Flodden, or indeed Mary's own unhappy end, suggest piece it all together and you get a different picture. While the main aim of the exhibition is to tell Mary's story, it also looks at the Stuarts in the 16th century more widely and there is enough to suggest that they had glamour
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You're welcome, Limabeany. :flower: Fun people, those Tudors and Stuarts. :hehe:
Cindy
Can I go back for just one day? Where did Jules Verne go? :happy15:
I'd be happy to go back for just a couple of hours so that I could see what Darnley looked like. He must've looked spectacular to have turned Mary completely upside down in love. It sure wasn't his personality. :wacko:
Cindy
:hmm: How about Henry Cavill in that role? :yesss:
Quote from: cinrit on September 02, 2013, 01:29:53 PM
I'd be happy to go back for just a couple of hours so that I could see what Darnley looked like. He must've looked spectacular to have turned Mary completely upside down in love. It sure wasn't his personality. :wacko:
Cindy
I think it was more a sexual infatuation. her marriage to Francis II had possibly not been consummated, or only fitfully. She was ripe for sexual experience and she was very silly... and inexperienced.
Considering most people didn't bathe very often back then, and wouldn't have cleaned their teeth I would have to think that we wouldn't have found any of the men or women to be very attractive. Smell is a definite turn-off
:notworthy: :notworthy: AMEN TO THAT! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
You're right, Lothwen, about the smell. How anyone managed to procreate is beyond me. But then, if everyone smelled (or should I say "since" everyone smelled), they probably cancelled each other out. :lol: I think Darnley would have to be portrayed by someone blond and a little effeminate. At least, that's my impression of what he looked like, from his portrait.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Henry-stuart-darnley.jpg/220px-Henry-stuart-darnley.jpg
In the 1971 version of "Mary Queen of Scots", Timothy Dalton (yes, the same Timothy Dalton who went on to play James Bond), with blond hair, played Henry Darnley.
http://pelicanpromotions.com.au/dalton/Mqscots.jpg
Cindy
How about Bradley James from Merlin!??
http://0.tqn.com/d/scifi/1/0/m/k/-/-/s02e03_arthur_01_1600x1200.jpg
Perfect? :yesss:
^Good choice
I agree with Lothwen ... absolutely perfect. :thumbsup:
Cindy
Any candidates for our Mary? :hmm:
Maybe Saoirse Ronan?
https://www.google.com/search?q=saoirse+ronan&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MOQkUoe_K6PkiwKsv4GwBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1360&bih=672#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=xXGhvTlkSFAU-M%3A%3BG1Z8voDR-qIcmM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theplace2.ru%252Farchive%252Fsaoirse_ronan%252Fimg%252FSaoirse_Ronan.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theplace2.ru%252Fphotos%252FSaoirse-Ronan-md3617%252Fpic-376844.html%3B1965%3B2550
Good eye, Lothwen!!! :) I can see her falling for him... :nod:
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/saoirse_ronan_curls_the_host.jpg
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Here's Mary:
Facial reconstruction of Mary Queen of Scots to go on display - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10145989/Facial-reconstruction-of-Mary-Queen-of-Scots-to-go-on-display.html)
Mary, Queen of Scots by ~RafkinsWarning on deviantART (http://rafkinswarning.deviantart.com/art/Mary-Queen-of-Scots-178856454)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary,_Queen_of_Scots_by_François_Clouet_detail.jpg
Mary Queen of Scots - INSTAKILT (http://instakilt.com/mary-queen-of-scots)
Queen who lost three husbands husband one was younger than her sickly, husband two well the reason the church never canonised her was the murder of her second husband husband number three the man who murdered number two he died in a lunatic asylum. She was politically stupid upset Catherine medici upset the nobles in Scotland and was the worst plotter out.
Very true, Paula. Elizabeth I was the one with spunk and strength, not Mary. I've imagined Mary Queen of Scots as self-centered, immature, and easily led by men, even after her imprisonment by Elizabeth. Men convinced her that she could succeed in a rebellion to oust Elizabeth and take over the throne.
Cindy
Elizabeth survived Henry VIII and they first tried to get her executed when she was 15 claiming she committed treason with Thomas Seymour a man who she said had much wit but very little judgement. Mary was easily led.
That's it in a nutshell. Elizabeth was a survivor, Mary was not.
Cindy
^ I agree Elizabeth was a Queen :windsor1: Mary was just a woman ... a weak one at that ... still ... very tragic life and I hope they do a good movie around that ... I hope Hollywood doesn't mess this up !!! :sneeze:
Cant be worse than that terrible Reign with mary going to a ball in modern prom dress with bffs Lola, Aylee, Greer and Kenna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I watched about 15 minutes of "Reign". :unsure: Someone at their Facebook page said so what if it's not historically correct ... if you want history, go to the History Channel. :wacko:
Cindy
Preview of 'The Spy Who Brought Down Mary Queen of Scots' | Royal Central (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royaltyinthemedia/preview-of-the-spy-who-brought-down-mary-queen-of-scots-31373)
:thanks: Marine2109 :hug: I am soon looking forward to this...
QuoteA rare manuscript signed by Mary, Queen of Scots before her execution is to be the star attraction at an American auction. Mary signed the document relating to part of an estate in France where one of the most notorious massacres in the country's history took place.
The document is expected to fetch up to £12,000.
She had been left in the walled city of Wassy, in eastern Champagne, following the death of her first husband in 1560. It was left under the charge of her uncle, Francis, Duke of Guise, the brother of her mother Mary.
More: Mary, Queen of Scots signed manuscript up for sale - The Scotsman (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/mary-queen-of-scots-signed-manuscript-up-for-sale-1-3524418)
Cindy
QuoteA very rare piece of history will take centre stage at an American auction on 18th September as a manuscript that was signed by Mary, Queen of Scots before her execution is being put up for sale.
The document in question relates to an estate in France where one of the country's biggest and bloodiest massacres took place. More than 60 Protestant worshippers were slayed in a barn in Wassy in North East France in 1562. The massacre sent shockwaves not just through France but throughout Europe. Mary, Queen of Scots signed the document that effectively ordered the killing of these 60 innocent people.
More: Manuscript by Mary, Queen of Scots up for sale (http://royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/manuscript-by-mary-queen-of-scots-up-for-sale-36563)
Bet Salmond will buy it. :teehee:
QuoteA letter signed by Mary, Queen of Scots months before her execution has sold for £17,472 ($28,750). The manuscript, dated 30 April, 1586, was written while the monarch was incarcerated at Chartley Manor in Staffordshire.
RR Auction, based in the American city of Boston, had expected the letter to sell for (£12,000) $20,000 at the auction on Thursday.
They said the letter was acquired from a private collector.
The manuscript is written in French on vellum, signed by Mary and countersigned by her secretary, Claude de la Boissiliere Nau.
More: BBC News - Mary, Queen of Scots letter auction sells for £17,472 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-29274107)
Cindy
QuoteAn English council has backtracked after claims its plans to burn an effigy of Mary, Queen of Scots were insensitive so soon after Scotland's independence referendum.
Carlisle City Council planned to burn the figure in its annual bonfire. But it made a u-turn after some councillors complained.
Mary was held in Carlisle, less than 10 miles from the Scottish border, in 1567 and spent most of the rest of her life in captivity before being executed.
The plan was to burn the effigy on Saturday evening on a pyre made to look like Carlisle Castle, where Mary was imprisoned.
More: BBC News - Mary Queen of Scots effigy row sparks Carlisle Council u-turn (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-29863312)
Cindy
So want to see this!
Elizabeth Fremantle on Twitter: "THE LAST DAYS OF MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS tomorrow on Channel 5 with @KateWilliamsme & Linda Porter. Should be good. (https://twitter.com/lizfremantle/status/585771296337821696)
In France, Mary, Queen of Scots and her husband the Dauphin Francis (later King Francis II) began to quarter the English arms with the French arms in their emblem.
It was a gesture that displeased Queen Elizabeth I of England.
Yes, I think many things the cousins did, whether deliberate or not, irritated each other, didn't they? Mary remained a danger to Elizabeth all her life, and in many ways Mary's great tragedy was that Francis didn't survive. She would have been much happier personally as Queen Consort of France and perhaps the mother of several children. That would have posed an even greater dilemma for Elizabeth, though, as she was unmarried and without heirs. Scotland would have been inherited by a French and Roman Catholic king, posing a threat to herself and the Tudor dynasty.
In France, Mary, Queen of Scots and her husband the Dauphin Francis (later King Francis II) began to quarter the English arms with the French arms in their emblem.
It was a gesture that displeased Queen Elizabeth I of England. >(
Quote from: Curryong on August 27, 2015, 03:08:53 AM
Yes, I think many things the cousins did, whether deliberate or not, irritated each other, didn't they? Mary remained a danger to Elizabeth all her life, and in many ways Mary's great tragedy was that Francis didn't survive. She would have been much happier personally as Queen Consort of France and perhaps the mother of several children.
who is to say? It seems possible that Francis was impotent or at best in very poor health and not very fertile. and if Mary had remained married to a Catholic Monarch and had children by him, I don't think the English nation would have accepted her issue as Elizabeth's heirs. And Eliz while she was a legtitmist, would probably have been very dubious about letting them succeed so ti would have probably come down the Greys' inheriting.
^ I don't think Mary did play an active role in the plot to get rid of her husband but at this length of time how can these experts possibly know of any hints she picked up in the atmosphere around her, any conversations she had with any of the plotters (or their intermediaries) which weren't written down, or any messages sent to her which were afterwards destroyed?
Quote from: Curryong on September 26, 2015, 12:28:12 AM
^ I don't think Mary did play an active role in the plot to get rid of her husband but at this length of time how can these experts possibly know of any hints she picked up in the atmosphere around her, any conversations she had with any of the plotters (or their intermediaries) which weren't written down, or any messages sent to her which were afterwards destroyed?
From what I've read, and I admit its some time since I read any bios of Mary, the woman was pretty dim, and I think it is entirely possible that while she would have liked to get rid of Darnley, she was actually blind to the plots by her nobles to bump him off.
Statue of Mary Queen of Scots
Mary Queen of Scots Statue, Linlithgow Palace Peel | the history girls frae scotland (http://www.thehistorygirlsscotland.com/2015/06/07/mary-queen-of)...
Mary Stuart was very fond of white and insisted on wearing white for her wedding to the Dauphin Francis (future Francis II) of France.
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on December 30, 2015, 10:59:56 PM
Mary Stuart was very fond of white and insisted on wearing white for her wedding to the Dauphin Francis (future Francis II) of France.
I think white would look very effective, as Mary was tall, slender and auburn haired.
I've never seen this beauty in Mary that her contemporaries claimed was there. She looks far too long faced...
While in Chatsworth, Queen Mary was allowed a few supervised rides in the countryside. She was fascinated by the local caves.
Lovely portraits and sketches of Mary Stuart.
Mary Queen of Scots - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJmY-ceH94)
At her coronation, her gout was so severe that Anne had to be carried in a chair.
Was Mary Stuart a Dramatic Queen?
Mary Stuart - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEitQPLmZs)
Quote from: snokitty on May 15, 2016, 11:17:55 AM
#OnThisDay Mary, Queen of Scots? Third Marriage to the Earl of Bothwell – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/history/onthisday-mary-queen-of-scots-third-marriage-to-the-earl-of-bothwell-60190)
QuoteJames Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell (b. 1534; d. 14 April 1578) and Mary, Queen of Scots (b. 8 December 1542) are believed to have first met in the autumn of 1560 when the Earl visited the French court and was kindly received by the Queen and her first husband, King Francis II (b. 19 January 1544). Francis II, who Mary had married in 1558 died in December 1560 and Bothwell was one of the men who played a part on organising Mary's return to Scotland in August of 1561 in his capacity in the navy.
The article mentioned Henry Stuart demanded to be made co-sovereign of Scotland.
Who had the final say in this matter: Queen Mary or the Parliament of Scotland?
Divine Right of Kings: The Stuarts 2:29 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-P9gtYzXRI)
In 1711 Queen Anne elevated a number of new peers to the House of Lords to ensure Parliamentary approval of the proposed Peace of Utrecht.
The Tragedy of Charles I | History Today (http://www.historytoday.com/reviews/tragedy-charles-i)
QuoteIn an elegantly written new life of the king who lost his head, Leanda de Lisle makes the case for Charles I as a brave and radical king, who deserves respect and understanding, rather than the disapprobation, mixed with a rather maudlin sympathy, that he normally elicits. She also reconsiders Charles? redoubtable wife, Henrietta Maria, the unpopular French consort, whose personality and Catholicism played into the hands of her husband?s opponents. The queen was the target of a ruthless, highly effective propaganda campaign, which undoubtedly played a part in the slide towards war.
Queen Anne at prayer
Circa 1705, Anne , queen of Great Britain from 1702, at prayer. News Photo | Getty Images (http://www.gettyimages.com/license/51245021)
The articles of the Acts of Union presented by the Commissioners to Queen Anne in 1706.
The articles of the Acts of Union between England and Scotland, which Stock Photo: 145877610 - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-articles-of-the-acts-of-union-between-england-and-scotland-which-145877610.html)
Accession of Queen Anne on March 8, 1702
Bishop Gilbert Burnet announced the demise of King William III.
Accession of Queen Anne, 8 March 1702, Bishop Gilbert Burnet Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-accession-of-queen-anne-166883430.html)
The Stuarts were ill-starred. A very unlucky family indeed and some gruesome deaths among them.
A Series of Unfortunate Events - Historic Environment Scotland Blog (https://blog.historicenvironment.scot/2017/02/series-unfortunate-events/)
James V, Mary Queen of Scots father, when told that he had a daughter, said the following, then turned his face to the wall and died.
?He was already on his death bed when he learned that Mary of Guise had given birth to a daughter. According to legend, James is reported to have said that ?It cam? wi? a lass, and it will gang wi? a lass,? meaning that whilst the Stewarts came to power through marrying a princess, (Marjorie, the daughter of Robert the Bruce) the Stewart line would end with his daughter as queen.?
Actually though, it went on for a bit longer. The Stuart line didn?t end as reigning monarchs until Queen Anne?s death, in 1714. But it did indeed ?gang wi? a lass? all the same.
History of Marjorie Bruce, who married Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
Brief History of Marjorie Bruce - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuyp-2YJN7s)
How well did Mary, Queen of Scots get along with Catherine de Medici?
Mary Queen of Scots and her mother-in-law | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2004/02/19/mary-queen-of-scots-and-her-mother-in-law)
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on November 02, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
How well did Mary, Queen of Scots get along with Catherine de Medici?
Mary Queen of Scots and her mother-in-law | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2004/02/19/mary-queen-of-scots-and-her-mother-in-law)
I think they got along very well and cordially while Mary?s young husband Francis remained alive. After his death Mary was surplus to requirements, really. She had no children. Her use to the French Crown was over.
Quote from: Curryong on November 03, 2021, 12:05:28 AM
I think they got along very well and cordially while Mary?s young husband Francis remained alive. After his death Mary was surplus to requirements, really. She had no children. Her use to the French Crown was over.
Do you think Queen Catherine would have been happy if Queen Mary would have married one of Francis II's younger brothers?
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on November 03, 2021, 10:01:42 PM
Do you think Queen Catherine would have been happy if Queen Mary would have married one of Francis II's younger brothers?
No. She didn?t really countenance it. Francis?s younger brother who became the next King was tubercular and very young. Catherine also disliked the idea of a Spanish marriage for Mary, to the physically and mentally challenged Don Carlos of Spain, heir to King Philip. This was proposed by Mary?s mother?s relatives, the Guises, almost as soon as Francis died.
Mary wasn?t unfavourably disposed to the match but Catherine, while she remained outwardly friendly towards her widowed daughter in law, disliked the idea of Elizabeth, her own daughter and the Queen of Spain, being thrust aside if her stepson Don Carlos came to the throne and had children with Mary. So privately she worked behind the scenes against that match and it faded. Mary, finding no role for her left in France, departed for Scotland.
Lady Marlborough meeting the Princess Anne in the Queen's Drawing Room circa 1671
Lady Marlborough meeting the Princess Anne (future Queen Anne of England), Queen's drawing room, circa 1671 Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-image-lady-marlborough-meeting-the-princess-anne-169210645.html)
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Why was King Charles II known as the Merry Monarch?
Why Was Charles II Known as the Merry Monarch? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtDTLcjjSbg)
Was the trial of King Charles I: justice or show trial?
The trial of Charles I: justice or show trial? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5y6xFzheqo)
King Charles II of England
King Charles II (Louvre, 1972) | Taken 34 years ago and scan? | Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798588@N00/107039371)
The pageant for King Charles II and Queen Catherine in August of 1662 consisted of barges representing the twelve livery companies (guilds) of London as well as masques on the water.
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King David I of Scotland built the Chapel of Saint Margaret in the precincts of Edinburgh Castle.
The chapel was built in honor of David's mother, Queen Margaret, the spouse of King Malcolm III.
In The Kings and Queens of England Ian Crofton wrote:
At her accession, Queen Anne tried to create an image of a new Elizabeth, declaring, 'I know my own heart to be entirely English.'
One of King Charles I's fundraisers was a tax called Ship Money. Ship Money was supposed to be a tax paid by coastal towns for building ships in times of national danger. There was no national danger when Charles demanded the tax. King Charles I demanded Ship Money from inland towns.
Lady Anne Hyde, Duchess of York was born March 12, 1637 at Cranbourne Lodge in Windsor, England.
She was the first spouse of James, Duke of York (King James II of England).
Anne of Denmark was the first Danish Queen of England.
She began as a Queen of one realm and later was Queen of two realms.
The Vulnerable Anne Of Denmark Attacked by Witches!? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9vNORGX5CY)
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King Charles I was asked to sign a militia bill that would give the House of Commons command of the army. Charles refused to sign the militia bill.
James I reigned as King of Scotland from 1406 to 1437.
King James I of Scotland. After 'The Works of James I., 178s Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/king-james-i-of-scotland-image218767646.html)
During the reign of the widowed King William III, the new St. Paul's Cathedral, redesigned by Sir Christopher Wren after the Great Fire of London in 1666, opened in 1697.
Did King William III see the new cathedral interior?
From the online history of St Paul?s.
The cathedral was completed on 20 October 1708, Wren's 76th birthday. On Thursday, 2 December 1697, thirty-two years and three months after a spark from Farryner's bakery had caused the Great Fire of London, St Paul's Cathedral came into use: it proved to be well worth the wait. The widower King William III had been scheduled to appear but, uncomfortable in crowds and public displays, had bowed out at the last minute. The crowd of both the great and the small was so big, and their attitude towards William so indifferent, that he was scarcely missed.
Of course he may have paid a private visit later.
I don?t know about King William but, much as I love the present Cathedral I really wish the old historic one could have been at least partially saved in the Great Fire. I regard the destruction of the old St Paul?s, hodgepodge though the structure was, as second only to the destruction, again by fire in the 1830s, of the old Houses of Parliament. They were an irreplaceable loss to Britain in historical terms.
The power of the Absolute King
03 Divine Right of Kings (2 min.) Lessons in History (educational lecture) King Trump & Absolutism - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEcc8-q-brM)
Robert III (c. 1337/1340-1406) was King of Scotland from 1390 to 1406. He was born with the name John Stewart. In May 1390 parliament granted John permission to change his regnal name to Robert.
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Happy Birthday Mary, Queen of Scots
December 8, 1542: Happy Birthday Mary, Queen of Scots | Tudor Minute - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO3VkZOAVcE)
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Happy Birthday Mary, Queen of Scots
December 8, 1542: Happy Birthday Mary, Queen of Scots | Tudor Minute - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO3VkZOAVcE)
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Happy birthday! To a woman who if she were alive today would be walking around with her head detached from her neck!
On August 24, 1682 James, Duke of York gave Delaware to William Penn.
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During the reign of the House of Stuart a favorite of the Stuarts was the
Christmas pie. The Christmas pie represented the manger of Jesus.
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An intriguing thought, what if Bonnie Prince Charlie and his army of Jacobites hadn?t turned back when near Derby in 1745 instead getting to London sweeping the Hanoverians from their throne and bringing back the Stuarts?
What if Bonnie Prince Charlie had WON with his army of Jacobites | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11508297/What-Bonnie-Prince-Charlie-WON-army-Jacobites.html)
The historian they spoke to seems to feel that a new Golden Age would have developed, no Emperor Napoleon, no French or American Revolutions etc etc. Personally I?m extremely sceptical that a return of that ill-starred family would have done anything of the kind. Grievances of the common people in France wouldn?t have been stymied by an alliance with England, however strong. It was the French Revolution that brought First Consul Napoleon to power in the first place, nothing else. And a political alliance wouldn?t have prevented the French from pursuing their own ambitions in North America. And why would American colonists have welcomed the French interference in their affairs? The situation there may well have caused another sort of revolution, not prevented one.
And what about the religious question? The Stuarts were devoutly RC. Britain in 1745 was robustly Protestant. The Old Pretender may well have feigned that he was Protestant if he became King, but so did King James II, and he, rightly, was not believed. Quite frankly I think the return of that family would have been an unmitigated disaster for both Britain and for their dynasty, but thankfully it all remains in the ?what if? basket of history.
A painting of Mary, Queen of Scots by Sir James Dromgole Linton
Mary Queen of Scots Painting by Sir James Dromgole Linton - Fine Art America (http://www.fineartamerica.com/featured/mary-queen-of-scots-sir-james-dromgole-linton.html)
The coronation procession of Queen Mary II of England
Mary Evans Mary II, Queen of England 10541275 (http://www.maryevans.com/history/10541275)
Queen Anne received Prince Eugene of Savoy
Queen Anne receiving Prince Eugene of Savoy; during the War of the Spanish Succession his partnership with the Duke of Marlborough secured many (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-queen-anne-receiving-prince-eugene-of-savoy--------87953184.html)
The national debt King William III had built up was secured by William Paterson, a Scottish merchant.
Paterson established the Bank of England in 1694 and the Bank of Scotland in 1695.
The husbands of Mary, Queen of Scots
The DISASTROUS Husbands Of Mary Queen Of Scots - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=970b_7DLavo)
Anne Hyde served as a maid of honour to Queen Catherine of Braganza.
The Heart Breaking Story of Anne Hyde Duchess of York - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r04V4Fy3HhA)
Mary of Modena planned to become a nun and join the Salesian order.
Her father considered marrying her to James, Duke of York.
The Revolutionary Mary Of Modena - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryuOnoyoG4g)
King James I had overseen the persecution of witches in Scotland.
In England he passed the Witchcraft Act of 1604.
The Witchcraft Act remained on the statute book until 1736.
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In King David I's reign from 1124 to 1153, David established a central government
administration in Scotland. He inrroduced royal coinage and imported
an Anglo-Norman feudal system.
If Arabella Stuart had succeeded Queen Elizabeth I, would the union
of England and Scotland have taken place?
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Quote from: LouisFerdinand on July 11, 2023, 10:52:36 PM
If Arabella Stuart had succeeded Queen Elizabeth I, would the union
of England and Scotland have taken place?
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It would depend whom she married I would guess. As it was Arabella later married for love (presumably) but without permission of King James, who was furious.
I just think that Parliament felt that James was easier all round. He was already a King (even if he was a Scot!) he headed a Scottish army, and all those nuisance skirmishes over the border and anti English foreign alliances would hopefully cease. His claim to the English throne was strong, at least as strong as Arabella?s and he was married with three quite healthy children. Those who hated the thought of a Scot on the throne did look hopefully at Arabella but it just wasn?t enough.
Queen Mary II by John Smith. London, England, 1690.
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King Charles II met Willem III, The Prince of Orange
William III meets Charles II - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSrg9fp2fHs)
Princess Maria Clementiba Sobieska (1701-1735) was the wife of Prince James Francis Edward Stuart.
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Mary, Queen of Scots playing golf at St. Andrews 1563
Queen Mary, with Chastelard in attendance, playing at St.Andrews,... News Photo - Getty Images (http://www.gettyimages.com/license/517358506)
The Sea Triumph of Charles II painted by Antonio Verrio
The Sea Triumph of Charles II. King Charles II is portrayed riding a chariot with the British fleet in the background. Painting by Antonio Verrio, oil (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-sea-triumph-of-charles-ii-174711980.html)
The Stuart Prince of Wales
The Stuart Prince of Wales Part 2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-WBktkwdHE)
Mary, Queen of Scots regularly washed her face with white wine. She believed that it helped her
complexion.
On this day, November 22, 1515 ~ Birth of Marie of Guise, Queen of Scots,
spouse of James V, King of Scots, at Bar-le-duc, Lorraine, France
Robert III was King of Scots from 1390 to 1406.
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Queen Mary II of England in 1692
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King Charles II restored amusements to England
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King James II of England spent the night of 15/16 November 1688 in a poor fisherman's hut
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Illustrration of Henry Stewart (Stuart), Lord Darnley
He was the second husband of Mary, Queen of Scots.
Henry Stewart or Stuart, Lord Darnley, 1545 -1567. Cousin and second husband of Mary Queen of Scots Stock Photo - Alamy (http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-henry-stewart-lord-darnley-17310924.html)
Dowager Queen Hedwig Eleonora of Sweden was considered as a possible wife for King Charles II of England. However she refused Charles by saying she wished to be faithful to her deceased husband.
Anne Hyde, Duchess of York was the first wife of James, Duke of York (King James II of England)>Anne Hyde, Duchess of York, first wife of King James II of ? stock image | Look and Learn (http://www.lookandlearn.com/history-images/M608379)
On March 29, 1673 King Charles II of England accepted the Test Act. Roman Catholics were excluded from public functions.
How long was Mary Queen of Scots confined by Queen Elizabeth I?