The Sussexes and Family General chat

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HistoryGirl2

Oh, I didn?t realize the coronation was on the same day as Archie?s birthday, I just thought his birthday was around the same time. Then there?s definitely no reason to go. There never really was to begin with. He doesn?t like what they did. He?s no longer a working member of the family. And it?s Archie?s birthday? I would have already said no way Jose from the get. He?s superfluous at the coronation; not so at his son?s birthday.

wannable

That is the hope of the monarchists and I dare say equating it to UK surveys, the general population. But the but is Harry said he and Meghan will go to the coronation only if the Royals apologize to her.  The rest is media allegations.

Amabel2

Quote from: HistoryGirl2 on February 15, 2023, 04:05:13 PM
Oh, I didn?t realize the coronation was on the same day as Archie?s birthday, I just thought his birthday was around the same time. Then there?s definitely no reason to go. There never really was to begin with. He doesn?t like what they did. He?s no longer a working member of the family. And it?s Archie?s birthday? I would have already said no way Jose from the get. He?s superfluous at the coronation; not so at his son?s birthday.
his son will have loads of birthdays, there's only one coronation.

wannable

#328
I read HistoryGirl2 comment as Harry is unneeded, redundant to the Coronation, but and needed and required to Archie's birthday. 

Two optics from ''Publicist CEO' experts:

1. Harry thinks the royal family will apologize as he demands OR

2. Harry is clever making that demand knowing his family will not apologize but creating a great quantity of media buzz with the will they won't they. As I said in previous comments, the media will be taking 'advantage' of his quote, stretching it to a gazillion articles, usually they do, according to publicist experts, it's an old tactic to be front page news.

ETA: According to publicist experts, whichever 1 or 2 optic, both are distracting, both create disturbance among a majority of a population that are clearly happy with a Constitutional Monarchy as form of Government.  IF he doesn't get the apology (No.1), he doesn't care to lose, he already created a nuisance in the minds of British citizens, No. 2 is happening since 1 plus month ago since he said he demanded an apology.


HistoryGirl2

^Correct, @wannable. My comment was based on Harry not being needed at the coronation. He?s not a necessary component from the perspective of the RF. He?s no longer a functional component of the firm. So, if he went, it?s really only because *he* would wanna go, not because he *has* to. And based on how he?s spoken about the family, I wouldn?t know why he would want to, so I tend to think he?ll be invited and decline to attend.

Amabel2

I think he'll still go,  unless he really feels that he will get a cool reception.. and Im sure the RF will be outwardly polite.

Princess Cassandra

He's always creating drama and tends to find reasons to be upset and complain. If he doesn't get the apology and Welby doesn't intervene, I'm not so sure that he will attend. That way he can retain his anger and air more dirty laundry while being relieved that he didn't have to go and not be given a prominent role.

wannable

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle in Standoff With Royals Ahead of Coronation
WILL THEY WON'T THEY
Harry has suggested he won't attend the coronation without a family sit-down. Given that none is forthcoming, will the couple blink or skip the biggest global event of the year?

Tom Sykes
Royalist Correspondent

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Still Waiting For That Apology, Ponder Coronation Options

TLLK

Quote from: Amabel2 on February 16, 2023, 04:30:40 AM
I think he'll still go,  unless he really feels that he will get a cool reception.. and Im sure the RF will be outwardly polite.

Yes if they choose to attend then I expect that the BRF members will be civil but wary. I expect that the members of the family will  simply limit their conversations with the either or both of the Sussexes to generalities.

At this point in time, I  don't see  an in person meeting happening in the months leading up to the Coronation. If these are the terms that Prince Harry has made, then I don't see him wanting to budge from his position.

wannable

American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare

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Sources spilled that the Duke of Sussex, 38, is mulling going solo to London for the 90-minute ceremony ? provided he gets a front-row seat and isn?t shunned as a total outsider.

But Meghan, 41, finds it appalling Harry is even considering the palace?s one-sided plan, a source spilled. ?Apparently, she finds this proposal insulting and typically manipulative, since it?s forcing Harry to choose between his current family and attending the coronation,? spilled a source.

Curryong

Quote from: wannable on February 16, 2023, 01:45:27 PM
American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare

Radar Online. Oh, pleeeze! The website that stated there?s was pornography involving Meghan circulating on the Internet in 2017 and were constantly promising to show it at any minute but somehow, hardly surprisingly, never did.  Yes, they are a really creditable and viable source with reference to Harry and BP. I don?t think!!

TLLK

Quote from: wannable on February 16, 2023, 01:45:27 PM
American Radar Online taking advantage from Harry's Coronation quotes in Spare


I'm not sure if this is the most reliable source of information.

Amabel2

Quote from: TLLK on February 16, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
Yes if they choose to attend then I expect that the BRF members will be civil but wary. I expect that the members of the family will  simply limit their conversations with the either or both of the Sussexes to generalities.

At this point in time, I  don't see  an in person meeting happening in the months leading up to the Coronation. If these are the terms that Prince Harry has made, then I don't see him wanting to budge from his position.
I think he'll come.  He knows the RF are not pleased wiht him, and a lot of te public and media as well, but I feel that whatever he does, he reckons he will look good in the eyes of his supporters.  If he doesn't come, he'll say that he didn't get the apology and he doesn't want to be there - if he does come, h e'll say that he got an apology but was still stuck in the back row, and that Charles whined to him when they were talking and Will woud barely talk to him... NO matter what Charles does, H will spin it to make himself look good.  If Ch doesnt invite them he's a racist, if he does, he is afraid of Harry's saying awful things about him to the press

wannable

#338
I think if an American network pays him the right price x 3days (or just 1 day), he's staying put in Montecito.

Katie Nicholl was paid GBP250,000 for 3 hours...how much would a Prince get paid?

Of course KN earned - meritocracy that commanding and still record breaking Royal Reporter money after working hard for 8 years really following William and Kate at clubs, pubs, public areas outside from the agreed no go zone of St. Andrews, Party Pieces, Jigsaw, Sandhurst, etc.  Then doing her bit visiting Kate's childhood and teenage schools, homes, activities, wrote the first Kate book.  Completely justifiable and merit to it, but surely Prince Harry will break that record payment if hired and accepts the commentator role.

changemhysoul

I don't know if the photos are recent or not but there were photos going around on twitter of Harry, taking a bike ride with Archie.

I have look through the Netflix doc but I don't they're from there.


Curryong

Quote from: changemhysoul on February 23, 2023, 08:54:37 PM
I don't know if the photos are recent or not but there were photos going around on twitter of Harry, taking a bike ride with Archie.

I have look through the Netflix doc but I don't they're from there.



If Archie looks nearly four years old and is on his own bike then they are probably recent. There are photos of the two of them together on bikes of course but those tend to be quite old. I?d take a look myself but my iPad is playing up!

changemhysoul

Quote from: Curryong on February 23, 2023, 10:36:46 PM
If Archie looks nearly four years old and is on his own bike then they are probably recent. There are photos of the two of them together on bikes of course but those tend to be quite old. I?d take a look myself but my iPad is playing up!

Archie wasn't on his own bike but a little seat attached to Harry's bike. It was hard to tell age/looks but it could be old. It was just new to me and I was sure I hadn't seen it in the doc but hey, a nice stroll around is always fun.

changemhysoul

I'm assuming it would go here, about Frogmore.

Put out Harry, despite liking him or not on a cottage, a so-called gift that he's paying rent on for Andrew who liked to hang out with convicted pedo's and sex offenders. A man who couldn't even denounce said sex offender when it came down to the wire. After he managed to keep his security despite stepping back before Harry.

If there was anyway to take back all the effort they put into making that place a home. When they have all of their stuff shipped back, I hope they take anything that they paid for that can be taken.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

wannable

Barred from access to police security, there's just one space that meets the Sussexes' security needs when visiting the UK Frogmore Cottage. Soon, that will no longer be an option.

The inside story of King Charles's "cruel" eviction of Harry and Meghan

Omid Scobie

He also said the couple have not received a Coronation invitation.

Meanwhile the couple were out and about last night
Pictures Page Six

Curryong

#344
The invitations haven?t been sent out yet. The latest reports say they?ll be sent next week.

And judging by the tabloid media one would think that bailiffs came in and chucked the Sussex family, kids, dogs and everything out on their collective ears,  along with all their possessions. You can?t physically evict people who aren?t present to be evicted.

And it appears he ASKED the Sussexes to move out so Andrew can move in. Whether Andrew and Fergie are willing to do so with a 75 year lease in hand at Royal Lodge is another matter. Way to get on the right side of his two royal nieces he?s reputedly so fond of.

AND no dukedom for Edward which was widely expected. Great family relationships all round from the new King. .

wannable

Omid forgot to add in his Yahoo! Article that with no UK domicile Harry effectively will also lose counselor of state status. Although there is sufficient grounds to disqualify him.

Curryong

There?s nothing to stop the couple from leasing an apartment in Windsor or near the outskirts of London.

Harry and Meghan having a date night, in high spirits and both beaming. Harry happy about the great success of Spare.

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry have first night out since 'Spare' released

TLLK

Closing this thread and opening a new one as we're close to 15 pages. Discussion of Frogmore Cottage is to continue in the new thread.