:windsor1:
It's a boy! I'm outside B'ham Palace right now!
Kate deliver baby boy 8lbs 6oz and arrival at 4:24pm afternoon it's big baby boy! Kate and baby are doing fine after deliver William will annoucement to press very soon..
Congrats!!!
Very happy for the couple! :clap:
Hoping the baby is called Alexander or Arthur!
baby Cambridge is finally here :crown: :hi7:
"Celebrations will take place across the world when the baby is born, Niagara Falls will light up pink or blue. Gun Salutes in London."
— @JordonLee (via dukeduchessofcambridge)
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That is a very big baby!! 8 pounds, wow. Congratulations! :vday4:
I'm glad they had a boy, to be honest. Now there won't be any chance of them naming him "Diana" which I thought wouldn't be a good idea no matter what the reasoning.
Safe Delivery. Well Done Catherine, and congratulations to both of you.
Quote from: Regal on July 22, 2013, 07:53:30 PM
Very happy for the couple! :clap:
Hoping the baby is called Alexander or Arthur!
I join on this one. I hope his name begins with an A, for my own name begins with an A ! And I remind you I was born myself on June 22nd, so I'm very excited !
Happy news! They must be over the moon with joy--and relief! :vday4:
Great news! Congratulations to the Cambridges! :welcome:
Prince William, Duchess Kate announce they have named their son George Alexander Louis - @clarencehouse - breakingnews.com (http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGPqh-BEM/2013/07/24/prince-william-duchess-kate-announce-they-have-na)
My theories on the name. George to honor George VI. Louis as a nod to the Spencers since Louis Spencer will be the next Earl Spencer. And Louis could also be a tribute to Louis Mountbatten and William has that as one of his names. And Alexander because perhaps they wanted to have the name Alexandra in the names if a girl and Alexander if a boy. I would have had liked David as the fourth name if they had decided on a fourth name which they didn't
No Phillip. Surprisng there. I think they could have added his grandfather's name as first in order for that name, his , to be King Philip one day.
They could have called their PJ or PG or GP for short.They only used 3 names instead of four.
George, QEII's father, an ode to her , ok, but....
Yes, I am critical. Yes, I am commenting.
I know some will say "W hatever these people do, you people will crictize. Goodness!"
They are who they are and yes, everything they do , say, go, look, is commented on.
it is not as if I nor anyone here nor the press nor the people are commetning to their face about things.
That is what they named their child, per QEII's approaval , no doubt, fine .So be it.
Persoanlly, I think George is too old a name for a youngster.
William, Wills, Will, cool.
Herny is an olde anme , harder too , but he has been refrred to and called Harry sicne day one.
Many people don't know or forget it is Prince Henry.
This is truly funny! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
HORRIBLE HISTORIES - The 4 Georges: 'Born 2 Rule' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtYmq5qFVA)
:happy15: :happy15: :happy15:
Horrible Histories George The IV Who Are You ? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXKa5qcOSoc)
I think George isn't a surprise. Personally, I like the name. He isn't named after anyone in particular, so he can make this name his own.
George was the name of two recent kings (and a number of other monarchs) and is the name of Sarah McQ's son.
Alexander is the name of Robert and Jane Fellows son.
Louis is a Mountbatten, and the name of Lord Althorp.
What an antic name this is a 21th Century child for God sake !!! William and Harry are more modern !!! And also no Philip ? You must be kidding me !!!
I thought the same thing, Eri. Philip would have been a loving tribute to his grandfather at 92. :blank:
I keep thinking of George Costanza in Seinfeld another famous character called George.
I'm surprised Kate did not honor her dad by giving Michael as one of the names.
QuotePersoanlly, I think George is too old a name for a youngster
But he won't always be a youngster. I like when people give their children "adult" names. So many people use nicknames instead of the "real name" - so Jack instead of John, Molly instead of Mary, etc. etc. You can always come up with a nickname for family and for childhood days, but it is good to have a serious adult name for the vast amount of your life where you are not a child.
I agree Eri. :clap:
Maybe they will call him Alex for short.
With the name they chose, you cannot pull the first two intials for nickname like JP-JamesPhillip. PJ, Phillip James. PG -Phillip Geroge.
As I wrote on the other thread, my theory is they chose names fit for a king. They didn't honour any relative or acquaintance !
For me, it is George for the Saint Patron of England, Alexander for Alexander the Great and Louis for Louis XIV.
The Admiral Mountbatten is just an excuse for using the name Louis ! They just wanted to wish their sons a reign as fortunate as Alexander's and Louis's ones !
All adult Georges have started out as babies. Isn't Alexandra the Queen's middle name? (Just checked ... yes, it is.) Alexandrina was Queen Victoria's, as well. She was known as Drina before becoming Queen.
Cindy
Quote from: Liquorice on July 24, 2013, 06:05:08 PM
As I wrote on the other thread, my theory is they chose names fit for a king. They didn't honour any relative or acquaintance !
For me, it is George for the Saint Patron of England, Alexander for Alexander the Great and Louis for Louis XIV.
The Admiral Mountbatten is just an excuse for using the name Louis ! They just wanted to wish their sons a reign as fortunate as Alexander's and Louis's ones !
I agree they wanted a "King" sounding name :windsor1:.
I like the combination of the three names :nod:
Prince George will sound weird at first, since it is an "old" name they may decide to go by his second or third name when he's younger???
If the kid ever visit a jungle, I can just see the headlines now:
"George of the Jungle!" :happy20:
Prince George VII: The Prince of Cambridge becomes the seventh royal George (but he wasn't named after his great great great grandfather) | Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2376835/Prince-George-VII-The-Prince-Cambridge-seventh-royal-George-wasnt-named-great-great-great-grandfather.html)
His Wiki Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Cambridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George,_Duke_of_Cambridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George
For those who say that George is an old-fashioned name - names cycle in and out of fashion. When I was a girl, nobody was given old-fashioned names like Emily, Emma, Olivia, Sophia, Charlotte -- now they are among the most popular.
I'll bet George will become more popular now -- as Henry V says to Kate:
QuoteO Kate, nice customs curtsy to great kings. Dear
Kate, you and I cannot be confined within the weak
list of a country's fashion: we are the makers of
manners, Kate;
:D
From the DM:
"Queen Elizabeth's father was proceeded by George V who ruled from 1910 to 1936, but the Royal couple say they just like the name and it has nothing to do with him.
The name Alexander will prove particularly popular in Scotland, where Alexander III was regarded as one of the country's greatest rulers.
The name Louis is likely to have been chosen in honour of Lord Mountbatten, the Duke of Edinburgh's late uncle."
The newborn will be the third Windsor king to be named George
The Queen's father, George VI, reigned until his death in 1952
But the Royal couple have insisted that the baby is not named after him
The name means farmer or earth worker and originates from ancient Greek
George was the 12th most popular name for babies in the UK
4,347 Georges were born in the UK in 2011
The choice of three names bucks a trend with royal children often given at least four
The name Louis was Duke of Edinburgh's uncle Lord Mountbatten's name
The inclusion of Alexander in the name is likely to please those in Scotland
Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George,_Duke_of_Cambridge
Duke of Cambridge is wrong. William is the only Duke of Cambridge.
Cindy
v_voom, maybe they are fans:
George of the Jungle intro - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5-3jQwbDi0)
Or ... "Georgie-Porgie, puddin' and pie..."
Cindy
Perfect name for a Prince!
Quote from: missbliss on July 24, 2013, 06:00:15 PM
QuotePersoanlly, I think George is too old a name for a youngster
But he won't always be a youngster. I like when people give their children "adult" names. So many people use nicknames instead of the "real name" - so Jack instead of John, Molly instead of Mary, etc. etc. You can always come up with a nickname for family and for childhood days, but it is good to have a serious adult name for the vast amount of your life where you are not a child.
I totally agree.
I hate when people name their kids dog and horse nmaes:
North West, Apple, Pilot, Ace, Rainbow etc. of celebrity names.
Poor kids in our country have homemade names I call them. Poor things cannot spell them and people have a hard time pronouncing them or tyring to say phonetically.
There was a show , news show here once, about what happens to people when they become adults and have these "different" names. How employers are baised , rightly so and wrongly so by looking at their names:
LaKenada, DeDa'Juh, Keyonah, Da'Shanah...etc.
Lyric, Melody, Liberty, Justice, Saffron, Basil, etc.
I think if I had a stupid name, one for an animal, I would change my name as an adult.
Use initals at least.
Still, George is hard.
Maybe Geo as a nickname. Any name ending in an e or a or is ,y is always cutesy no matter what. Henry, Harry even.
Anyway, ther are are only so many names the couple could use to name their child.
It had to be a combination of English princes and kings.
I like , Inforgot , who said it is a combo of English kings. Perhaps that was their reasoning.
There cannot be Jacob, Jay, Benjamin, Ian, Kyle, even saints ' names like Mark, Peter, Paul, Simon, Sebastian, Lawrence, etc.
Perhaps as he gets older he will become Curious George. :happy15: I really like the names chosen though I would have loved to see the name Phillip.
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King George I, II, III, IV
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King George V, VII
Meet GEORGE as the late JFK Junior said after launching his new magazine.
Another famous George; GEORGE WASHINGTON US PRESIDENT
Prince GEORGE after the Queen's father King George VI (but was he not in fact ALBERT)?
So no middle names of Philip, Charles, Michael or John :
Prince Charles,
Michael Middleton
Prince Philip
John, Earl Spencer (Diana's father).
No uncle's names
Prince Henry
James Middleton.
Louis after Earl Mountbatten.
Not sure where Alexander comes from?
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King George I, II, III, IV
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King George V, VII
I think their choice was limited.
James (I never envisioned a King JAMES) too Scottish
King ALEXANDER - doesn't sound right.
King LOUIS (too French).
King RICHARD (not after the Richard III tragedy).
So there was only really HENRY, EDWARD, or FREDERICK left.
:banana: :banana: :banana: I've got the song in my head now!
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 24, 2013, 07:16:59 PM
v_voom, maybe they are fans:
George of the Jungle intro - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5-3jQwbDi0)
http://crownprinsessa.tumblr.com/post/56355315726/i-bet-william-and-kate-were-watching-easy-a :no: :censored2: :happy15:
By the way, apparently George was the 12th most popular boy's name in the UK in 2011. So it's not so "old-fashioned" after all! :)
They named him after George Bush :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
The family have now left to stay with Catherine's parents for the Summer. Which is great for the Middletons. I do hope Charles will not feel too left out. But I don't see how that can be helped.
Don't like George, sorry. But I'm not the parent. :happy15:
Such a classy gesture by HM. Drive over to save Catherine & William having to bundle the new prince into the car to take it to great grandmother. Grandparents first then the head of the family. I would have thought that they had to take it to her. So I admire a thoroughly modern 87 year old Monarch for keeping up with the times.
I agree Honesty with what you said about QEII.
This newborn prince or not, K, princess whatnot or not, too much moving via driving, new places and stuff and is simply not good.
I mean the extreme. Still this is a newborn 3 day old , not 3 month old and K just left L & D...all ________ such. Sorry for being graphic. I put a _________ blank line there.
The newborn went before the press. Home. Aunt P and Uncle J and H visiting. QEII today. Moved-driven today to K's family home.
Enough.
I like Sohie,DofW 's statement. Well put.
I like it. He was always going to be called something traditional and boring. I did think Philip would be in there though.
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on July 24, 2013, 08:10:38 PM
They named him after George Bush :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
:yesss: :happy15:
I'm a little sad that Prince Philip hasn't been able to see him. Maybe they Skype'd...
Cindy
So apparently Kate gave birth to a 90 year old. What an old fashioned name. All the other traditional royal names would have been better and more modern. :thumbsdown:
:goodpost:
We did a pretty good job guessing in our poll!
Quote from: Jenee on June 03, 2013, 11:19:30 AM
WINDSOR!!! We need a tie breaking vote!
Phillip was cited most popular, but tied for the other spots are Alexander, Arthur, David, and George!
I think Alexander would have been a good name and I read that Kate really liked that one. But obviously the Queen and William probably preferred a more regal name. It is kind of unfortunate that royal parents don't necessary have all the say on what their children would be called because of tradition.
Unfortunately, there are no cute short forms of George, other than George Porgy and he will outgrow that or be teased mercilessly for it!
:shemademe:
No one knows who liked what. Both are kind of boring and traditional despite the efforts of the media to make them sound revolutionarily modern. So George makes sense... :happy15:
I'm just glad this baby doesn't have 6 middle names....:Lothwen:
While "George" is an "older-sounding" name, the fact remains that old men were young once, and young men will be old themselves one day, so I don't see a problem with it.
I've never seen what is "boring" about being traditional. Traditions are fine things - they are the memory of a nation and a people ( and families for that matter.). And one of the most traditional things on earth is a monarchy, which derives its existence from history, tradition and bloodlines. So a traditional choice makes sense.
Besides it turns out that "George" is the 12 th most popular boys name in the UK. So lots of folks must like "boring, traditional names!"
Quote from: cinrit on July 24, 2013, 10:37:43 PM
I'm a little sad that Prince Philip hasn't been able to see him. Maybe they Skype'd...
Cindy
I am not sure the exact distance from Windsor Castle to Bucklebury, but I would not discount Prince Philip taking a drive out to visit his great grandson. It is known that Philip gets on very well with Carole Middleton. As I am sure the Queen does too. I would think something like 30 minutes road time.
Someone came here somwhere and said...
The baby will be a king and hes name will be george...Swear to god someoen have said this before...weird..creepy..im afraid... :eyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I like george but i woulnt name a son george dont ask me why maybe coz in my language george doesnt sound that good..i mean imagine keep calling ure child george here and there...no...
But i like alexander :thumbsup:
I dont know to behonets i didnt liked it...prince george...weird...just my views anywya...
We have a capital city in northern British Columbia named Prince George. They have been inundated with newspapers from all around for details on the city. Folks here are not too sure how the city got it's name. Was it George 3, was it Prince George born in 1915 ? when the town incorporated or was it named after his son Prince George of Kent ?.
Anyway, Canadians are celebrating in the city and are thrilled.
Quote from: missbliss on July 25, 2013, 12:44:09 AM
I've never seen what is "boring" about being traditional. Traditions are fine things - they are the memory of a nation and a people ( and families for that matter.). And one of the most traditional things on earth is a monarchy, which derives its existence from history, tradition and bloodlines. So a traditional choice makes sense.
Besides it turns out that "George" is the 12 th most popular boys name in the UK. So lots of folks must like "boring, traditional names!"
Popularity does not mean everyone likes it. I suspect St. George has something to do with that, in Catholic countries many mothers name their children Mary as a Thank You for a healthy baby. I just don't like George for a child or even a man. That's just me. I don't think traditional is boring that is why I said I thought them traditional
and boring, both. There are other traditional choices in a Monarchy that is over 1000 years old. I personally did not like the name or the fact that Philip was not included. Just me. That is all. :happy:
Quote@RoyalReporter: Prince George is likely to become King George VII in time.Clarence House categorically denied rumours Charles would call himself King George
This is an interesting tweet. I've always thought Charles would be Charles III and it looks like he plans to be!
@LIMABEANY - if you don't like George, that is your prerogative. I do like it because it is not a trendy name, but a classic "real" name. And it is royal. But each to her own.
:shrug: You seem to be taking issue with my opinion. Not a problem.
I read somewhere that Charles had been considering George.
He was probably named for his royal family.
George Alexander Louis
Grandfather: Charles Phillip Arthur George
Father: William Arthur Phillip Louis
Great grandmother: Elizabeth Alexandra Mary
Alexander could be one of Phillip's names. It is Greek & he was from the Greek/Danish royal family.
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Quote from: Queen Camilla on July 25, 2013, 01:44:35 AM
He was probably named for his royal family.
George Alexander Louis
Grandfather: Charles Phillip Arthur George
Father: William Arthur Phillip Louis
Great grandmother: Elizabeth Alexandra Mary
Alexander could be one of Phillip's names. It is Greek & he was from the Greek/Danish royal family.
I like the way you think. :blowkiss:
That name is too old for a child I would have prefer Arthur but this is their choice. I have a feeling the next time we see the baby is when he turn 1 years old with lot of hair because I highly doubt the Middleton will allow the press near their new trophy. I will have to agree with the press and rumor on George life it's will be very different from William, with William the media were able to capture every moment with George it will high be limited. his life will extremely private and overly protect. William don't like the press all else he want to use them for his gain and the Middleton will prefer their favorite future grand son king life be more than ordinary even though they claim it would not be that, BUT who are we kidding George IS more likely to listen to carol and Michael than Charles. so I approve these rumor and I cannot wait to see how this all play out. :orchid:
Royal baby name: The history behind George Alexander Louis - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/24/world/europe/royal-names-history/index.html?hpt=hp_c3)
Quote from: Honesty on July 25, 2013, 01:06:41 AM
We have a capital city in northern British Columbia named Prince George. They have been inundated with newspapers from all around for details on the city. Folks here are not too sure how the city got it's name. Was it George 3, was it Prince George born in 1915 ? when the town incorporated or was it named after his son Prince George of Kent ?.
Anyway, Canadians are celebrating in the city and are thrilled.
I always get Prince Rupert and Prince George mixed up, even though I have been to both :girlblush: . I wonder if there may be a royal visit to Prince George some day.
I can't believe the people saying Geoege is too old then Start pulling out archaic names like Arthur. The baby was always going to have a boring British name, this is the best of a group of boring names for him. They could have named him Charles, Phillip, Edward, or Henry. That GAWD they went for something modern at least compared with the alternatives. The first born has a limited number of names he can have, the best that could have been hoped for is James or George.
Quote from: good221 on July 25, 2013, 02:37:24 AM
That name is too old for a child I would have prefer Arthur but this is their choice. I have a feeling the next time we see the baby is when he turn 1 years old with lot of hair because I highly doubt the Middleton will allow the press near their new trophy. I will have to agree with the press and rumor on George life it's will be very different from William, with William the media were able to capture every moment with George it will high be limited. his life will extremely private and overly protect. William don't like the press all else he want to use them for his gain and the Middleton will prefer their favorite future grand son king life be more than ordinary even though they claim it would not be that, BUT who are we kidding George IS more likely to listen to carol and Michael than Charles. so I approve these rumor and I cannot wait to see how this all play out. :orchid:
I hope we don't get to see the baby much at all. He may be a member of the royal family but to expect a baby to be on view is selfish. Let him be a baby in piece and quiet.
I totally agree with you PaulaB. The kids should be able to enjoy life without being chased for photos.
Quote from: Queen Camilla on July 25, 2013, 01:44:35 AM
He was probably named for his royal family.
George Alexander Louis
Grandfather: Charles Phillip Arthur George
Father: William Arthur Phillip Louis
Great grandmother: Elizabeth Alexandra Mary
Alexander could be one of Phillip's names. It is Greek & he was from the Greek/Danish royal family.
It is not one of Philip's names because Philip is that rare royal - he only has one name - Philip. That is it. Short and simple.
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George - seems obviously from George VI and George V - the Queen's father and grandfather - but is also the Earl of St Andrew's name - heir to the Duke of Kent.
Alexander - male form of Alexandra, the Queen's middle name - as well as the second name of Philip's grandfather - Louis Alexander of Battenburg - and the name of the heir to the Duke of Gloucester - the Earl of Ulster.
Louis - obviously to do with Lord Louis Mountbatten besides being one of Wiliam's names and a regular name in the Mountbatten family - as well is the name of the heir to the Spencer title.
George and Alexander are also names of Spencer cousins - from Diana's sisters.
We sure were right on target about the names, just as you all knew it would be the Duke of Cambridge on the wedding day.
I'm not fond of George either, but then I didn't like William for a baby name. Now I'm used to it. They seemed to have left Charles out entirely. They could've given the baby Charles as his 4th name. Or Phillip. I was hoping for Alexander and I like Louis. Arthur needs to be retired. George is a nice nod to the Queen's father who served so bravely during the War. It is also like the name of my state, Georgia, named after King George.
I may as well begin getting used to it.
Quote from: Honesty on July 25, 2013, 01:06:41 AM
We have a capital city in northern British Columbia named Prince George. They have been inundated with newspapers from all around for details on the city. Folks here are not too sure how the city got it's name. Was it George 3, was it Prince George born in 1915 ? when the town incorporated or was it named after his son Prince George of Kent ?.
One of the counties right across the Washington, D.C., line is Prince George's County, so "Prince George" sounds natural to me. I'm not crazy about the name, but I don't dislike it, either.
Cindy
Quote from: missbliss on July 24, 2013, 07:56:41 PM
By the way, apparently George was the 12th most popular boy's name in the UK in 2011. So it's not so "old-fashioned" after all! :)
I've read that it moved up to 6th for 2012; how much do you want to bet that it'll be even more popular in 2013?
(And names do cycle in and out of fashion: my grandmother and her sisters all had names that are currently gaining popularity: Matilda, Lillian, Julia, Anne).
The name doesn't surprise me, since I was sure they'd choose something traditional and George is just about the only choice not currently in use in the immediate family.
Alexander is a nod to the Scots, imo, since it was the name of some of their most popular kings.
Louis might even be their concession to
trendy (since Viscount Althorp and one of Edwward Van Cutsem's sons also share that name; I guess it is popular in those circles).
Quote from: memememe on July 25, 2013, 06:43:33 AMas well is the name of the heir to the Spencer title.
George and Alexander are also names of Spencer cousins - from Diana's sisters.
Actually, the order of the names, George Alexander Louis, could be argued to honor Diana's siblings who are in order of age, Sarah -mother of George, Jane - mother of Alexander, and Charles - father of Louis.
But then again, William is a royal and the son of a man who married a woman he never loved because she provided suitable breeding and grandson of a woman who's only public tears were for the loss of a boat. As much as I hate to admit it, it is more than possible that he never even considered any Spencer (and certainly no Middleton) connection. That does seem to be the general consensus at least. Vicki Arbiter suggested that the only possible Spencer connection was to the second Earl, and that this wouldn't have been a reason behind the choice of names.
If so, it just confirms my belief that the Windsors are a family of vultures. How insensitive can one family be?
Prince George's third name is pronounced Louis and not "Lew-is".
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So is Louis pronounced Lou-eee? Lou-ees?
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 25, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
As much as I hate to admit it, it is more than possible that he never even considered any Spencer (and certainly no Middleton) connection. That does seem to be the general consensus at least. Vicki Arbiter suggested that the only possible Spencer connection was to the second Earl, and that this wouldn't have been a reason behind the choice of names.
If so, it just confirms my belief that the Windsors are a family of vultures. How insensitive can one family be?
I don't see it as insensitive; after all, this child is the heir and his name(s) should reflect that.
There will probably be opportunities to honor the Middletons with future children.
As for the Spencers, I don't believe William has ever been particularly close to them; at least, I have seldom seen him photographed with any of his Spencer relatives, and he and Harry didn't even attend the Earl's wedding two years ago. So why would he name his son after any of them? (Yes, I know his male cousins on the Spencer side have those names, but the same names are very common among the aristocracy. I really don't think William considered the Spencers for one second when choosing names).
I saw William speaking to one of his Spencer aunts at some funeral or other just a couple of years ago, I think. Maybe it was the funeral of his nanny (I don't remember her name). I also saw him go to one of the aunts before his wedding, and give her a kiss. He doesn't seem to be close to them, and lots of people are closer to one side of the family than to the other, but I don't think he completely forgets that they exist, either. He knows them well enough to pick them out in a crowd. :D
As for the names, they're really such fairly common names, they could be attributed to just about anyone if we try hard enough. I read where one woman said he was named after Seinfeld actors. It was a stretch, but it was funny. I'd repeat it, but I've never watched Seinfeld, so I can't pull the names out of my brain. I remember one was Jason Alexander, another was Julia Louis-Dreyfuss. And I think "George" was a character on the sitcom?
Cindy
George Alexander Louis Is The Royal Seinfeld Baby (http://www.inquisitr.com/867660/george-alexander-louis-is-the-royal-seinfeld-baby/)
Thanks, Limabeany. :flower: That's not where I read it, but it looks like it's making the rounds. :lol: I'm surprised all the "George" references haven't come out ...
George of the Jungle
Curious George
Georgia-Porgy, puddin' and pie
Let George do it
Cindy
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 25, 2013, 11:41:18 AM
So is Louis pronounced Lou-eee? Lou-ees?
I think it's Loo-ee.
QuoteAre Royal Baby Name Choices Copies By the Public?
One might assume that the choice of royal baby names has a massive impact on the monikers that ordinary people choose. That isn't necessarily the case.
Baby name trends are influenced by an eclectic range of sources. In 2001, the girls' name Chardonnay was nowhere in the names chart, only just creeping into the ONS's top 5000 for England and Wales. In January 2002, Footballers Wives - with a central character named Chardonnay - started on British television. For 2002, the name hit 519 in the charts and by 2003 Chardonnay was at a respectable 372.
Royal names, especially British monarchs', are less varied. The last 11 monarchs have been Elizabeth, George, Edward, George, Edward, Victoria, William, George, George, George and George. George was also the bookmaker's favourite for the royal family's latest addition. Tradition usually plays more of a part for those who are future monarchs, says Joe Little, managing editor of Majesty magazine.
BBC News - Are royal baby name choices copied by the public? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23424857)
Cindy
Quote from: Sandor on July 25, 2013, 12:20:52 PMI don't see it as insensitive; after all, this child is the heir and his name(s) should reflect that.
There will probably be opportunities to honor the Middletons with future children.
As for the Spencers, I don't believe William has ever been particularly close to them; at least, I have seldom seen him photographed with any of his Spencer relatives, and he and Harry didn't even attend the Earl's wedding two years ago. So why would he name his son after any of them? (Yes, I know his male cousins on the Spencer side have those names, but the same names are very common among the aristocracy. I really don't think William considered the Spencers for one second when choosing names).
He is the heir to a number of families, not just the royals. As for his closeness to the Spencers, was he not close to his mother? Surely an honor for them would have honored her. But even so, had they chosen a name like George Philip Albert, that would be focused on the royals without being insensitive to the rest of the family. But to intentionally choose the names of your first cousins? Especially, when Louis and, in particular, Alexander have no real family history? It's cold. Typical yes, but still ice cold.
I guess I'm just disappointed that the same prince that wants to supposedly provide a 'normal' life for his son, wouldn't be willing to acknowledge the 'normal' (i.e. non-royal) relatives. But, my guess is that the real reason he spends most of his time with his wife's family or on base is because he just doesn't care that much for his own. After all, royals prefer to be surrounded by their own kind and those who are overly-deferential. :Lothwen:
At any rate, it's insensitive and rude. Typical yes I know, but still... And honestly, I'm annoyed with myself for forgetting the fact that they are not, fundamentally, nice people. I know better than to fall for this. :ugh: :no:
They've denied that they named the baby after anyone in particular. Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. But why is the name an indication that he doesn't care about his Spencer relatives? I don't see where one has anything to do with the other. Which other monarchs or future monarchs have named their children after non-Royal relatives? Yes, William wants to be "normal", and I can see how that came about from his childhood where he was shown the "normal" things that "normal" kids do. But in the end, he knows who he is, he knows what his future is, and he knows what the future for this baby is. He obviously understands tradition and responsibility to his birthright. I don't see what's so wrong with that.
Cindy
I agree about the Spencers, he has no duty to carry out the Spencer names, but as far as the understanding of tradition and responsbility, if he understands it, his and his wife's lack of Royal work ethic is even more disturbing.
I don't really buy that he wants to be normal. IMO he just doesn't really like his family.
And, as I pointed out, he chose names that specifically belong to three close (in blood) relatives without any apparent realization that he had done so. It would be like naming a daughter Zara Beatrice Louise and then claiming, through representatives that the child was named after Elizabeth I, queen Beatrix of wherever, and Louis Mountbatten. Or conversely claiming that the names don't represent anyone at all, particularly if this is true. It's insensitive. It demonstrates an amazing amount of self-involvement. And how do you think princess Anne, prince Andrew, and prince Edward would feel? I'd think they'd be hurt. Maybe the Spencers aren't because they have learned to expect nothing else, or maybe they are. But, it doesn't matter.
Again, it is typical of the royal family, but it is still rude. They just aren't nice people.
Limabeany-
QuoteI agree about the Spencers, he has no duty to carry out the Spencer names, but as far as the understanding of tradition and responsibility, if he understands it, his and his wife's lack of Royal work ethic is even more disturbing.
It's not a matter of having a duty to carry Spencer names, just the sensitivity to recognize that this is what he has done. He has an obligation to know what his cousins names are and to be aware enough of others to recognize when he has chosen them for his kid. From what I understood, he was quite close to both the Fellowes' and the McQ's. Its just the Earl he's not close to. But, surely he knows the Spencer heir's name. He's not that stupid.
As for him not working, I will say it again. LimaBeany, your willingness to believe that William's only problem is that he doesn't do enough of the right kind of "work" (i.e. do enough to justify his existence) is exactly why he will continue own the path he is on. The man is not stupid. He realizes that all he needs to do to win you over is to pretend to do "work." And, he has no obligation to start that now. After all, what do any of you think you can do if he refuses? You can't fire him, he doesn't work for you. You can't have a vote on the monarchy unless the queen approves it, and she won't do that, neither will Charles or William. So what are you going to do? There's nothing you CAN do.
He could care less about that. Mostly because, like the rest of his family, he is an a__.
I don't think the Spencer's belong anywhere in the baby's name, if any family should be a part of his name it is the Middleton's.
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 25, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
I don't really buy that he wants to be normal. IMO he just doesn't really like his family.
And, as I pointed out, he chose names that specifically belong to three close (in blood) relatives without any apparent realization that he had done so. It would be like naming a daughter Zara Beatrice Louise and then claiming, through representatives that the child was named after Elizabeth I, queen Beatrix of wherever, and Louis Mountbatten. Or conversely claiming that the names don't represent anyone at all, particularly if this is true. It's insensitive.
It's not a matter of having a duty to carry Spencer names, just the sensitivity to recognize that this is what he has done. He has an obligation to know what his cousins names are and to be aware enough of others to recognize when he has chosen them for his kid.
As for him not working, I will say it again. LimaBeany, your willingness to believe that William's only problem is that he doesn't do enough of the right kind of "work" (i.e. do enough to justify his existence) is exactly why he will continue own the path he is on. The man is not stupid. He realizes that all he needs to do to win you over is to pretend to do "work." And, he has no obligation to start that now. After all, what do any of you think you can do if he refuses? You can't fire him, he doesn't work for you. You can't have a vote on the monarchy unless the queen approves it, and she won't do that, neither will Charles or William. So what are you going to do? There's nothing you CAN do.
I agree with all of the above! :thumbsup: But, I don't believe William's only problem is that he doesn't work. I just think the people who seem to think, at 32, it is acceptable for him to sponge off his father for a living, will think he is perfect if he does. I think he is self-centered and living in a bubble like his grandmother. His grandmother is going on vacation and leaving her husband of decades behind because he isn't well enough to go until he can go by himself. I was shocked at William's insensitivity in going on vacation with the Middleton's when his grandmother had her first year service for the deaths of her mother and sister, the rest of the family thought it was important for her to have their support. Everyone was there except him. So William clearly takes after her, in that sense.I hope, the baby turns out a better soul than he, but there is nothing one can do.
Why do I keep reading complaints about him "living off his father"? His brother also "lives off his father" and I've never seen one word (let alone complaint) about it, and guess what ... long after William no longer does, his brother will. It's tradition that Charles support them, so where is the problem? And what does any of this have to do with HRH Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge? Such a happy occasion has turned into another thread about what an a__ William is. :(
Cindy
Quote from: KaTerina Montague on July 25, 2013, 03:33:24 PM
I don't think the Spencer's belong anywhere in the baby's name, if any family should be a part of his name it is the Middleton's.
Oh, I agree. Use Middleton names. Heck use royal names. But, don't sit there and use Spencer names and then act as if you have no idea that you've done so.
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 25, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
I agree with all of the above! :thumbsup: But, I don't believe William's only problem is that he doesn't work. I just think the people who seem to think, at 32, it is acceptable for him to sponge off his father for a living, will think he is perfect if he does.
Sponging off others is a royal specialty, so I'm not sure I see your point here.
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 25, 2013, 03:46:09 PMI think he is self-centered and living in a bubble like his grandmother. His grandmother is going on vacation and leaving her husband of decades behind because he isn't well enough to go until he can go by himself. I was shocked at William's insensitivity in going on vacation with the Middleton's when his grandmother had her first year service for the deaths of her mother and sister, the rest of the family thought it was important for her to have their support. Everyone was there except him.
I think things like the service for the queen's mom and sister are far more about public image than anything else. I see your point, but I don't really see that as the best example of insensitivity. IMO the family turned out because it looked good to do so. You could make the argument that William's reaction was more honest.
But, again, I do see your point.
I do agree that prince Philip seems to be in the process of being slowly shoved off stage. I would not be surprised to hear he has died. The firm seems to be done with him. Que sera sera - live by inconsiderate self-absorption, die at the hands of inconsiderate self-absorbption.
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 25, 2013, 03:46:09 PMSo William clearly takes after her, in that sense. I hope, the baby turns out a better soul than he, but there is nothing one can do.
I hope the Middletons are a good influence. But, my strongest hope for the UK is that he will be able to use that 'normalcy' to forge his own path in a world that's monarchy free.
QuoteSuch a happy occasion has turned into another thread about what an a__ William is. :(
Unfortunately though, it is William who used this occasion to, once again, demonstrate that that is exactly what he is. Just like the rest of his clan. :(
^^ How do you know he realizes that he's used some Spencer names and is pretending he doesn't know? He didn't say anything other than the baby is not named after anyone specifically. He may very well have chosen those names because several family members on both sides have used them and doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings by pointing out names. Why assume the worst?
Cindy
How will Prince George of Cambridge rank among the world’s most famous Georges? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-will-prince-george-of-cambridge-rank-among-the-worlds-most-famous-georges/2013/07/24/5e802af8-f489-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_story.html)
26. George Jetson
25. Boy George
24. George Wesley
4. St. George
3. George Washington
2. George Clooney
1. Curious George
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Royal baby: the legacy of the Royal Georges - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/10200955/Royal-baby-the-legacy-of-the-Royal-Georges.html)
QuoteHis grandmother is going on vacation and leaving her husband of decades behind because he isn't well enough to go until he can go by himself.
correct me if i'm wrong ..:P but I'll be going to London in August and so I was naturally checking if I could see Buckingham palace apparently you cannot visit till the queen is gone on her vacation to Scotland so u can visit in the summer while the Royal Family are not in residence ofcourse You can look at it by the gates, but you can't go inside unless the queen isn't there only The Queen's Gallery and the Royal Mews are open all year which makes sense so its more of a tourist summer thing than 'I want to leave my husband with no feelings ' :D
Quote from: georgiana996 on July 25, 2013, 04:29:35 PM
QuoteHis grandmother is going on vacation and leaving her husband of decades behind because he isn't well enough to go until he can go by himself.
correct me if i'm wrong ..:P but I'll be going to London in August and so I was naturally checking if I could see Buckingham palace apparently you cannot visit till the queen is gone on her vacation to Scotland so u can visit in the summer while the Royal Family are not in residence ofcourse You can look at it by the gates, but you can't go inside unless the queen isn't there only The Queen's Gallery and the Royal Mews are open all year which makes sense so its more of a tourist summer thing than 'I want to leave my husband with no feelings ' :D
The Queen's husband is in Windsor castle. Why not holiday there?
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Quote from: cinrit on July 25, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
^^ How do you know he realizes that he's used some Spencer names and is pretending he doesn't know? He didn't say anything other than the baby is not named after anyone specifically. He may very well have chosen those names because several family members on both sides have used them and doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings by pointing out names. Why assume the worst?
Cindy
Unfortunately, with these guys assuming the worst is often your best bet.
George is a horrible name for a child. But to each their own. I hope he'll go by Alexander.
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 25, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
I don't really buy that he wants to be normal. IMO he just doesn't really like his family.
I share 100% this opinion with you.
Quote from: LIMABEANYI was shocked at William's insensitivity in going on vacation with the Middleton's when his grandmother had her first year service for the deaths of her mother and sister, the rest of the family thought it was important for her to have their support. Everyone was there except him.
IMO it's one of many
signals shows where his true affection and loyalties lies. IMO there's nothing wrong with it. The Windsors are many things... but close knit family really NO.
I must admit I can't understand the thinking that George is a horrible name for a child, or it too old for a child or some variant on that argument. Is the thinking that it would be ok to call an adult George, but not a child? But who gets named in adulthood? All current adult Georges even those in their nineties were once little newborn babies, whose parents decided, while looking at their little scrunched up red faces that they wanted to call them George.
It is actually a pretty popular name in the UK, 12th in 2011, so little Prince George will meet plenty of other Georges at preschool, primary school, prep school, Eton, and University. Especially since the upper classes appear to like it. It is a classic, traditional name with lots of history behind it. I remember when Harry was born and some people said "Harry?" what an awful name! Now because of a combo of Prince Harry, Harry Potter and Harry Styles it is one of the most popular names going.
All a matter of taste, but the idea that any name is not a good name for a child really makes no sense. If it is good for an adult, it's good for a child.
I must add here that the DOE is set to join the Queen at Balmoral in mid-August
Prince Philip ‘to join The Queen at Balmoral in mid-August’ (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/dukeofedinburgh/prince-philip-to-join-the-queen-at-balmoral-in-mid-august-12900)
I didn't particularly take to the name too much at first but it will eventually grow on people. Look at George Percy, no one has a problem with calling him George. I think that they did name him to be king, not for a kid though. It does sound a bit outdated, I thought that Diana did a good job with giving both boys very English, very upperclass, and yet very modern names. Kudos to her. :clap:
I also think that they had one of their minions do the research and find royal names from the past. Because to, coincidentally, name your child after another Prince of Cambridge who was son of a Duke of Cambridge doesn't just happen. I take it as planned because they have done things like this before, like having their wedding on the day of the Feast of St. Catherine. They do these things, it's planned. Like Kate wearing a blue shade polka dot dress for the birth of the heir is planned. Diana wore blue for the birth of the heir and then red for birth of the spare. The next time she gives birth I bet she'll be wearing a shade of red.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think of the name; she spent close to 12 hours in labor with this child and therefore what she names him is her prerogative. :P
Quote from: Yale on July 25, 2013, 04:55:06 PM
George is a horrible name for a child. But to each their own. I hope he'll go by Alexander.
In and of itself, I don't see a problem with the name George. To me it's not old-fashioned, but timeless. It's one of those names that are always in use and never truly out of style, kinda like William, or Thomas.
Actually, Diana's dress when William was born was green:
Cindy
Good job Cinrit, her dress was a shade similar to blue and William is not the only Duke of Cambridge.
Quote from: cinrit on July 24, 2013, 07:14:49 PM
Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George,_Duke_of_Cambridge
Duke of Cambridge is wrong. William is the only Duke of Cambridge.
Cindy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_cambridge
William is the fifth Duke of Cambridge.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge with Prince George in an identical shawl to the one selected by Princess Diana and Prince Charles for Prince William, a GH Hurt & Son shawl shown outside the Lindo Wing in 1982.
Royal baby Prince George Effect: GH Hurt & Son Ltd behind £45 christening shawl 'besieged' by requests | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2377597/Royal-baby-Prince-George-Effect-GH-Hurt--Son-Ltd-45-christening-shawl-besieged-requests.html)
The Prince George Effect! £12 aden + anais swaddle wrap used by Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Kate and Prince William sells out | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2376376/The-Prince-George-Effect--12-aden--anais-swaddle-wrap-used-Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-Kate-Prince-William-sells-out.html)
I like the name george but not for a prince..never ever..i mean prince george :orchid:
Ewwww :blank:
The name is not bad but it jst proves william is nothing anti traditional..i dont know much about names in english but if people say is na old traditional name..i believe it...so be it...i like it but not for a babt and for a prince not at all..weird...
It should be Richard me thinks...prince Richard :)
Or even alexander was better...Arthur would be great :happy:
Anywya is just a name...who ares...i mean it could be worst geroge is well ok..i guess...what to do :shrug: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 25, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 25, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
I don't really buy that he wants to be normal. IMO he just doesn't really like his family.
And, as I pointed out, he chose names that specifically belong to three close (in blood) relatives without any apparent realization that he had done so. It would be like naming a daughter Zara Beatrice Louise and then claiming, through representatives that the child was named after Elizabeth I, queen Beatrix of wherever, and Louis Mountbatten. Or conversely claiming that the names don't represent anyone at all, particularly if this is true. It's insensitive.
It's not a matter of having a duty to carry Spencer names, just the sensitivity to recognize that this is what he has done. He has an obligation to know what his cousins names are and to be aware enough of others to recognize when he has chosen them for his kid.
As for him not working, I will say it again. LimaBeany, your willingness to believe that William's only problem is that he doesn't do enough of the right kind of "work" (i.e. do enough to justify his existence) is exactly why he will continue own the path he is on. The man is not stupid. He realizes that all he needs to do to win you over is to pretend to do "work." And, he has no obligation to start that now. After all, what do any of you think you can do if he refuses? You can't fire him, he doesn't work for you. You can't have a vote on the monarchy unless the queen approves it, and she won't do that, neither will Charles or William. So what are you going to do? There's nothing you CAN do.
I agree with all of the above! :thumbsup: But, I don't believe William's only problem is that he doesn't work. I just think the people who seem to think, at 32, it is acceptable for him to sponge off his father for a living, will think he is perfect if he does. I think he is self-centered and living in a bubble like his grandmother. His grandmother is going on vacation and leaving her husband of decades behind because he isn't well enough to go until he can go by himself. I was shocked at William's insensitivity in going on vacation with the Middleton's when his grandmother had her first year service for the deaths of her mother and sister, the rest of the family thought it was important for her to have their support. Everyone was there except him. So William clearly takes after her, in that sense.I hope, the baby turns out a better soul than he, but there is nothing one can do.
I totally agree with both..every single word!!!
Quote from: cinrit on July 25, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
Why do I keep reading complaints about him "living off his father"? His brother also "lives off his father" and I've never seen one word (let alone complaint) about it, and guess what ... long after William no longer does, his brother will. It's tradition that Charles support them, so where is the problem? And what does any of this have to do with HRH Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge? Such a happy occasion has turned into another thread about what an a__ William is. :(
Cindy
Agree with u as well..what fair for one should be for the other...besides i see Harry working more and doing mroe duties as far as i can see...i dont think theyre that diferente..btoh gain basically the same...the diference between how much they work as royals and as professional is not that big...and yeah i dont see anyone complaking about Harry...
I agree is not fair...
About kates horrednous dress like dianas..yeah is ver similar i dont think it was done on purpose..no i dont..but yeah honetslly they kinda of desserve the comparisons..they would come anyway but with the horrendous huge baby blud polka dot dress she asked a LOT for it...
Quote by Jmax. The Queen's husband is in Windsor castle. Why not holiday there?
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Everyone assumed he was there I guess. Actually he was in Sandringham, good choice. Norfolk is lovely in the summer time.
Quote from: Honesty on July 26, 2013, 01:40:15 AM
Quote by Jmax. The Queen's husband is in Windsor castle. Why not holiday there?
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Everyone assumed he was there I guess. Actually he was in Sandringham, good choice. Norfolk is lovely in the summer time.
The queen is going to Balmoral. So again, same question.
Do we know how long William and Kate are supposed to be in Berkshire?
William is on two weeks paternity leave so he will leave in just over a week while Kate will leave when she is ready.
Quote from: HsHCharlene on July 25, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I didn't particularly take to the name too much at first but it will eventually grow on people. Look at George Percy, no one has a problem with calling him George. I think that they did name him to be king, not for a kid though. It does sound a bit outdated, I thought that Diana did a good job with giving both boys very English, very upperclass, and yet very modern names. Kudos to her. :clap:
I also think that they had one of their minions do the research and find royal names from the past. Because to, coincidentally, name your child after another Prince of Cambridge who was son of a Duke of Cambridge doesn't just happen. I take it as planned because they have done things like this before, like having their wedding on the day of the Feast of St. Catherine. They do these things, it's planned. Like Kate wearing a blue shade polka dot dress for the birth of the heir is planned. Diana wore blue for the birth of the heir and then red for birth of the spare. The next time she gives birth I bet she'll be wearing a shade of red.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think of the name; she spent close to 12 hours in labor with this child and therefore what she names him is her prerogative. :P
How are William and Harry very modern names when William I reigned from 1066 to 1087 and Henry I reigned from 1100 to 1135 both of them are very old names.. I like George its a name he can grow up into.
Re the name-it is a verypopular name right now for babies so certainly can't be said to be "old-fashioned".And it was the bookies favorite right from the start-because it was the name of the last 2 Kings of England who both have a generally good reputation ( ie George V and VI) , it honours the Queen's father, no other close relative has it.Also it can't really be shortened -unlike say Richard which has some very unfortunate shortenings (ie Dick) and the last two King Richards were deposed...
Re the Queen going to Balmoral-Prince Philip will be joining her, that is simply the way they do things..I don't think its fair to say that they are "done" with him-he is not well and convalescing!
Finally-you can't really say William doesn't work.He does work at Air/Sea rescue, same as Harry works in the Army.In addition they are supported by their father from the Duchy of Cornwall revenuies-on pretty much the same way as say George Percy will be supported by the Northumberland revenues.Clearly at some point William will have to do more "Royal " duties but I'm not sure why that is classed as work whilst what he is doing at the moment isn't
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And I thought Kate's dress was absolutely lovely-and nothing like Diana's which was hideous
Everything old is new again, they say. The name George goes back a long way. But so do a lot of names that are popular now ... Daniel, Elijah, Oliver, Emma, Sophie, Olivia, Charlotte ... all old-fashion names.
Cindy
Quote from: PaulaB on July 26, 2013, 07:44:25 AM
Quote from: HsHCharlene on July 25, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I didn't particularly take to the name too much at first but it will eventually grow on people. Look at George Percy, no one has a problem with calling him George. I think that they did name him to be king, not for a kid though. It does sound a bit outdated, I thought that Diana did a good job with giving both boys very English, very upperclass, and yet very modern names. Kudos to her. :clap:
I also think that they had one of their minions do the research and find royal names from the past. Because to, coincidentally, name your child after another Prince of Cambridge who was son of a Duke of Cambridge doesn't just happen. I take it as planned because they have done things like this before, like having their wedding on the day of the Feast of St. Catherine. They do these things, it's planned. Like Kate wearing a blue shade polka dot dress for the birth of the heir is planned. Diana wore blue for the birth of the heir and then red for birth of the spare. The next time she gives birth I bet she'll be wearing a shade of red.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think of the name; she spent close to 12 hours in labor with this child and therefore what she names him is her prerogative. :P
How are William and Harry very modern names when William I reigned from 1066 to 1087 and Henry I reigned from 1100 to 1135 both of them are very old names.. I like George its a name he can grow up into.
I say this because it is a name that is very much in use in England today, it still used around the world, and like you said has been used for centuries. But no one hears William or Henry and thinks, ew that's an old name for a child like people have done for Catherine. But if you think about it, it is Catherine so everyone will be a critic in terms of all of her choices in life from now on. I also agree, he will grow into George as a name so I am not too worried for the kid.
I'd like to butt in for one second d and say Diana wore GREEN not blue and she paired it with pink shoes and white stocking ... :gross: just suggesting that maybe just maybe she liked the dress and it happened that its her style ......... high belt and flared out simple a line type btw polka dots are in now basically h&m m&s topshop zara forever 21 all have polka dot dresses so .....yeah ... just my theory ....
QuoteFor the third consecutive generation, a peal of bells to mark the birth of an heir to the throne will be rung at St Paul's Cathedral.
Following those for Prince Charles in 1948 and Prince William in 1982, a team of 13 ringers will ring the Cathedral's 12 bells on Saturday, 27 July, the first Saturday since the announcement of the birth of Prince George of Cambridge.
Cathedral bells to mark Royal birth - St Paul's Cathedral, London, UK (http://www.stpauls.co.uk/News-Press/Latest-News/Cathedral-bells-to-mark-Royal-birth) [/quote
Cindy
I love the sound of the bells at any time. St. Paul's are especially good.
There's something romantic (not in the lovers sense) about the sound of church bells ringing.
Jmax, there must be another thread where the criticism is aimed at the Queen with ref. going to Balmoral. I think Limeabeany agreed strongly with your opinion. I cannot find it but I understand that we are not allowed to post on two threads with the same thing. So I will let you find it.
Americans must think differently to Brits, when it comes to marriage arrangements. When I wanted to fly to Germany to have Christmas with my new one and only grandson, my hubby preferred to go to Hawaii as normal. He spent Christmas with friends, all arranged before hand, and then for new year went to Hawaii.
There's a thread about the Queen going to Balmoral in the Queen and Prince Philip section, here:
Prince Philip 'to Join The Queen at Balmoral in Mid-August' (http://www.royalinsight.net/forum/index.php?topic=64441.0)
Cindy
:)
Quote from: Honesty on July 26, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
Jmax, there must be another thread where the criticism is aimed at the Queen with ref. going to Balmoral. I think Limeabeany agreed strongly with your opinion. I cannot find it but I understand that we are not allowed to post on two threads with the same thing. So I will let you find it.
Americans must think differently to Brits, when it comes to marriage arrangements. When I wanted to fly to Germany to have Christmas with my new one and only grandson, my hubby preferred to go to Hawaii as normal. He spent Christmas with friends, all arranged before hand, and then for new year went to Hawaii.
Honesty- As you've no doubt noticed, sometimes these threads go off topic. This one has drifted into (a) a comparison between Diana's and Kate's dress when they left the hospital, (b) criticism of William's and the royal family's in general, behavior. It just happens. And, yes we keep posting until a mod says stop. That's life.
I'd also point out that despite your criticism, you made no effort to get the thread back on track, something I did a few posts back.
My earlier question still stands.
That said, this thread is about the new prince and is name. And, like I've said before, on a purely generic level, I like it. I don't consider it particularly regal, and I loathe the callousness that accompanied it's being chosen, but all-in-all it's a good name, simple and to the point.
I wouldn't be surprised if all of K & W's children had similarly brief, traditional names. JMO.
With all respect to you, Jmax, you don't like the way the names were chosen because you've decided, without any evidence or even hints, who the names do and do not honor. William made it clear that the names are not honoring anyone in particular, possibly trying to avoid judgments about them. In my opinion, the names represent several family members on both (or all) sides.
Or maybe they really do honor the cast of "Seinfeld". :D
Cindy
Jmax, my bad. Should have thumped louder and asked for clarification. The question has already been answered to my satisfaction on the other thread. That is really all I should have said.
QuoteThe Royal Baby 2013
Royal correspondent Max Foster explores what the future might look like for the royal family's newest addition, Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge in this CNN documentary special.
The Royal Baby - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/world/royal-baby)
Cindy
PRINCE George's status as a future King is secure but if he has sisters they may still have to play second fiddle to younger brothers.
New row over royal succession after Prince George?s birth | Royal | News | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/417713/New-row-over-royal-succession-after-Prince-George-s-birth)
FWIW, HM definitely has a say in what names are acceptable when naming a future Monarch. Likely W & K made a list of names they would prefer and HM gave then a list of names she deemed acceptable and they narrowed the two lists down to the ones they like the best.
With George being HM's father's ruling name....whilst Albert was his actual Princely name....and her Grandather was George V...and Chas mentioned he may use George instead of Chas...that name seems to have been the highest rated of all names considered. As for Alexander, Scotland had some legendary Kings of that name..one the son of Richard The Lionheart and then too, it puts one on mind of Queen Alexandra. The original Louis Battenburg , father of Chas' mentor, Uncle Dickie, chamged their surname to Mountbatten...Leaving the quintessential query, What's in a name?
So though Wills may not have been directly influenced by any particular personage...there is surely loads of history in those names. Two of those names are also Spencer family names, George and Louis. One of the Spencer Georges was a vicar. :wink:
I still fail to see why everyone has to deride the names chosen. IMO George honors both sides of Williams family Hanover, Windsor and Spencer. Alexander is Scottish and was probably chosen as W&K met and fell in love in Scotland as for Louis again it is one of Williams names and perhaps they both liked the name Mountbatten notwithstanding. At the end of the day it parents choose the names and the monarch is the one who approves it. I really like the name George it fits as both a solid middleclass and royal name.
I'd have to agree with Lucy on this one. Baby George may not be named after anybody in particular, but rather for a number of people. Those three names show up quite a bit in Windsor family history, and probably also in Spencer and Middleton history as well.
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 26, 2013, 08:24:09 PM
Quote from: Honesty on July 26, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
That said, this thread is about the new prince and is name. And, like I've said before, on a purely generic level, I like it. I don't consider it particularly regal, and I loathe the callousness that accompanied it's being chosen, but all-in-all it's a good name, simple and to the point.
I don't really understand what you mean by the callousness that accompanied its being chosen, but I cannot see how it could be said "not to be regal"?? George is the name of 6 previous Kings and many other royals. Alexander is the name of several kings of Scotand and its the Queen's second name. Louis is a French royal name but is also used in the British RF
Hmm there were 6 Kings named George in England
GAWD knows how many royals/nobles in France were named Louis
And
Alexander has been the quintessential King name in various countries in Europe for centuries.
But somehow George Alexander Louis is not "regal". The only way it could get more regal is of they named him King.
Quote from: cinrit on July 26, 2013, 08:32:07 PM
With all respect to you, Jmax, you don't like the way the names were chosen because you've decided, without any evidence or even hints, who the names do and do not honor. William made it clear that the names are not honoring anyone in particular, possibly trying to avoid judgments about them. In my opinion, the names represent several family members on both (or all) sides.
Or maybe they really do honor the cast of "Seinfeld". :D
Cindy
The focus of the press has been exclusively on the royals. There has been no mention of any connection to any other family, not one. It is typical of the royal family and their supporters, and it does confirm my underlying sense that they aren't nice people.
Look, at the heart of it, I am a die-hard republican. This is partly due to the fact that, like you, I am American. It's partly due to the fact that I am, by descent, almost entirely Irish-Catholic. I was raised on stories of the British abuse of the Irish. I've never been, no will I ever be, a royalist. I'm bothered by Americans who are. So, I'm not inclined to like anything that heaps endless praise on the British royal family.
These people are not demi-Gods. They are regular human beings no different than you and I, whom otherwise intelligent people blindly adore. This child is not simply related to the royals, he is also descended from a coal miner. Having royal blood in his veins doesn't erase the proverbial coal-miners dirt from his hands, and this family and its followers shouldn't be allowed to just pretend that it does. This is the sort of thing needs to be acknowledged, and when it's not, it just reminds me of all the things I really dislike about this family, and more to the point, what I really dislike about their sycophants.
As celebs, they're fine. I like gossiping about them (and reading gossip) which is why I joined this board. But things like the name remind me of why I fundamentally dislike them as people, and why I see them as vultures.
I'm not obliged to be fair to them. William claims he had no particular reason to name his kid what he did. That strikes me as callous, and confirms what I've always believed.
Quote from: amabel on July 27, 2013, 02:41:19 AMI don't really understand what you mean by the callousness that accompanied its being chosen, but I cannot see how it could be said "not to be regal"?? George is the name of 6 previous Kings and many other royals. Alexander is the name of several kings of Scotand and its the Queen's second name. Louis is a French royal name but is also used in the British RF
By "not regal," I meant that the name doesn't make me think of Alexander the great and Louis XIV. This is the great-grandchild of a woman who's greatest achievement while on the throne has been not dying, and the grandchild of a man who talks to plants and apparently can't even get the 'if nothing else, stay politically neutral' part of his job right. And, if I am to believe some on this board, the son of two extremely lazy people. Although, I think the last part is unfair, especially given that flying a helicopter is far more of a 'real job' than glad-handling people to keep yourself in royal robes, and Kate is under no obligation to work, if she and her husband agree to her staying home.
Comparing this child to some of the more influential figures in history is really a stretch.
Well from what I've seen of press coverage in the UK there has been a fair bit about the Middleton's, so it is hardly the case that the focus has been entirely on the Royals. of course it is gong to be much more on the royal side, because that's the side that George will inherit from. but there is a fair amount about his mother's family as well. I am still puzzled about the "not regal". OK you don't like the royal family and don't think that Eliz II or Charles are great people. Fair enough. But there have been much worse people in the world who were NOT royal and worse Royals in the past.
I can't see how that means that the child's names, which are certainly used in the British and Scottish Royal families, are not regal. I don't see how much more regal they can be. Besides was Louis XIV a better king than say George V? I'd say not.
And it seems you decry the Queen since her biggest achievement is "not dying" ie she has done nothing much as queen, and you also decry Charles because he HAS tried ot use his positon as POW to do certain things, and possibly strayed over the border into politics. So sorry but it seems the royals can't win. If they stay strictly within the limits of their positon as constitutional monarchs you seem to fault them for doing nothing. If they are more active, then they do risk being seen as political and you seem to fault Charles for that...
And what is callous about William probably not wanting to get into big discussions about exactly why he chose the names he did? He certainly would have chosen at least 2 "royal" names, and George was always a very likely one.. so I see nothing "callous" about his saying that there was no particular reason to pick the ones he and K did pick. He picked names from his family's history, as you woudl expect and possibly there was no special reason why he say chose George as first name, other than there is only one other George in the family at present so it is a name "not being used". As for Alexander I think that was possibly K's choice and if it had been a girl, they might have gone with Alexandra.
^^^^^ _ We're just going to go round and round about this. I consider it callous, you don't. I think the names aren't regal, you think they are. I saw absolutely nothing linking the child's name to anyone who wasn't a royal, you seem to have seen things linking it to the Middletons. I don't see anything that either Charles or his mother have done is really noteworthy, you do.
I'm tired. What say we call a truce? Let's just agree to disagree.
They picked three names they liked. Why does it have to be naming him after anyone? As for regal these names have been used by royals in the past so they are regal. What would you regard as a regal name?
I agree that they probably picked names they liked within a narrow field of possibles. And they are most certainly royal/regal names. If He'd picked say Jeremy, or Adam, they're perfectly OK names and upper class but haven't been used in any RF that I'm aware of (unless you Count Prince Jerome a minor Bonaparte). Well I could see then if someone said it was not a "regal name".
I think that George was always the most likely, and probably wasn't "after" anyone but just because it is a royal name and has been used by 6 Kings, and there's only one George in the family at present, who is I think usually called "Stan" (Lord St Andrews). But if they like the name Alexander, maybe as the kid grows up, he and they may go by that name. People do often end up called by something differnet to their first name or even any of their given names.
To Jmax, OK I don't think there's much point in us arguing, but I have indeed seen articles about the Middletons in the British papers, and while I don't say that Charles and the Queen are the worlds most wonderful people, I do see both of them as essentially decent folk who have done their duty.. It may not be that glamorous, and it mayn't be world shaking or saving mankind but they have I think done their best to fulfil the duties of their position and in C's case he's really tried to make a difference. I don't always agree with what he does, but I think he does his Best. I don't cure cancer in MY job, I wish I could, but I haven't' got the skills for that.. I do my best with my job, try to work hard and do something small to help people.. In their way I think they do the same...
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Quote from: amabel on July 27, 2013, 07:55:57 AM
I don't cure cancer in MY job, I wish I could, but I haven't' got the skills for that.. I do my best with my job, try to work hard and do something small to help people.. In their way I think they do the same...
You also aren't followed by an adoring press that exaggerates your every minor accomplishment to the level of sainthood.
And, that's it for me on this subject.
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 27, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: amabel on July 27, 2013, 07:55:57 AM
I don't cure cancer in MY job, I wish I could, but I haven't' got the skills for that.. I do my best with my job, try to work hard and do something small to help people.. In their way I think they do the same...
You also aren't followed by an adoring press that exaggerates your every minor accomplishment to the level of sainthood.
:yesss: :goodpost: Jmax2
^ :thumbsup:
Maybe they should have named him Doctor Who... :teehee: :orchid:
Okay someone twitted on the twitter this about the name Catherine and William chose, "Royal Baby name FYI: Princess Diana's nephews from her 3 siblings are: GEORGE McCorquodale, ALEXANDER Fellowes & LOUIS Spencer"
I actually thought William was quite diplomatic to say they chose names they liked, rather than naming the baby after any particular person. So many family members on both sides share those names that it is better not to exclude anyone.
Royal Baby Poll: Most Say Media Covered The Story Too Much
"The poll found that 63 percent of Americans think the media have dedicated too much time to the newborn offspring of Kate Middleton and Prince William. Twenty-three percent said the media have spent about the right amount of time, while only 2 percent were left wanting more. Twelve percent said they weren't sure.
In fact, few Americans admitted to mustering much interest in the duchess of Cambridge's pregnancy and the birth of her son, Prince George Alexander Louis. Nine percent said they were "very interested" in royal baby news, while another 26 percent said they were "somewhat interested." On the other hand, 27 percent said they were "not very interested," and 35 percent said they were "not at all interested.""
Royal Baby Poll: Most Say Media Covered The Story Too Much (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/27/kate-middleton-baby-poll_n_3660563.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 27, 2013, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: Jmax2 on July 27, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: amabel on July 27, 2013, 07:55:57 AM
I don't cure cancer in MY job, I wish I could, but I haven't' got the skills for that.. I do my best with my job, try to work hard and do something small to help people.. In their way I think they do the same...
You also aren't followed by an adoring press that exaggerates your every minor accomplishment to the level of sainthood.
:yesss: :goodpost: Jmax2
That's hardly the RF's fault.. that people exaggerate tehir smallest accomplishments. And the only one I've seen spoken of as a "saint" was Diana. Believe me, I see plenty of people over praised. The RF aren't the only ones.
Obviously, you have read very little on Kate. Good for you!
Double post auto-merged: July 28, 2013, 06:31:28 AM
Cost and inheritance of the Royal Baby
HuffPost Live (http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/kate-middleton-prince-william-royal-baby-son-throne/51edb9392b8c2a35280007ac)
I dont read much on Kate, but I have never seen anything to indicate that she's considered to be a saint.
She rescued William from the Windsors.
She gave William normalcy.
She will be a better mother than Diana because she won't have nannies.
She will be a better Queen and wife than Diana because of her middle-class values.
Those are just some of the headlines.
She has more poise than Diana at two years into their respective marriages.
She dresses better than Diana.
Blah Blah Blah
Just a few of the headlines extoling the unequaled never before seen perfection of Kate.
I can't say that this makes her seen as a saint. yes of course she'll be compared iwht Diana, but so would any woman in that situation. And some journalists may think she does better in many ways than DI, others may not. Certainly I think she's got a more stable marriage.. She has a stable settled birth family who are a support to her.. that's just luck.
It is not only the comparisons, you would have to read the gushing anointing articles extolling her perfection. Basically, most.
She's bound to get a fair amount of coverage, just now. Royal reporters have to make a living, but I still see nothing to indicate that anyone thinks she is a saint.
As I said, you would have to read the articles to know what is being said and left unsaid to not tarnish the perfect image.
There's no obligation to read them you know. of course Kate is going to get a fair amount of good press... she's young pretty and recently married, and having her first baby. Diana got lots of adoring coverage as well. Those who find it irritating and gushy probably don't bother to read it.
I dont read about her becuase I dont find her very interesting. If others want to, that's fine by me.
I've read the articles, loads of them, when I post them here ... and some that I choose not to post because they pretty much say the same as something already posted. Never have I seen her held up as a saint. I've seen articles that praise Kate, and I've seen articles that criticize Kate. If she's done something noteworthy, and some of the things you've listed are noteworthy, that doesn't mean that the journalist is canonizing her. Well, I suppose it all depends on how we receive the articles in our own minds.
Quote from: LIMABEANY on July 28, 2013, 06:10:48 AM
Royal Baby Poll: Most Say Media Covered The Story Too Much
I thought we don't believe in polls? :hmm:
Cindy
Speak for yourself. Polls, if done correctly can be a correct barometer of public views. That's why so many big issues are studied by using polls such as elections and public relations. I have to say that I am the only one of my friends that was actually remotely interested in this story but the news coverage was overkill at times. It was a wonderful time for both parents and families and of the nation because this event marked a milestone on which the fabric of Britain is built so it would be understandable for them to celebrate. But many Americans were happy for the couple but at the end of the day it does not effect us. The media tries to hype these situations up because they think that this is what people want to see. What I have noticed lately though is that live news has moved on to other stories but there are still a few one hour specials here and there. Not necessarily magazines though, they are more desperate and I think will continue to beat a dead horse.
^^ I didn't say that I, specifically, don't believe in polls, HsHCharlene. Read through the forum, though, and you'll see that many others have said polls are useless. But never I. :flower:
Cindy
Quote from: HsHCharlene on July 28, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
Speak for yourself. Polls, if done correctly can be a correct barometer of public views. That's why so many big issues are studied by using polls such as elections and public relations. I have to say that I am the only one of my friends that was actually remotely interested in this story but the news coverage was overkill at times. It was a wonderful time for both parents and families and of the nation because this event marked a milestone on which the fabric of Britain is built so it would be understandable for them to celebrate. But many Americans were happy for the couple but at the end of the day it does not effect us. The media tries to hype these situations up because they think that this is what people want to see. What I have noticed lately though is that live news has moved on to other stories but there are still a few one hour specials here and there. Not necessarily magazines though, they are more desperate and I think will continue to beat a dead horse.
I think it is because this is the " silly season" - in other words the royals are on holiday and the news is slow. It happens every year about this time and some of the headlines are really ridiculous.
I was interested in the story but since July1 , I couldn't wait till she had the baby and went back into hiding. I was so sick of all this it's a girl then its turn out to be a boy. A lot of people were left looking silly . The baby is really cute and I'm glad she had a safe birth, now lets hope the media moves on . I mean I don't mind hearing about the christening when it happens but until then I really would like it if the non stories stop. I sometimes feel like I'm in the twilight zone, same story different channel or magazine all week nothing new to report so keep repeating.
Focusing on Duchess of Cambridge's mummy tummy is a disgrace says women's minister | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380562/Focusing-Duchess-Cambridges-mummy-tummy-disgrace-says-womens-minister.html)
The Queen has had to pay tenant to vacate country home for William and Catherine.
Prince George: 'Windsor' or 'Mountbatten-Windsor'? | Will Bower (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-bower/prince-george-last-name_b_3667750.html)
Does anyone else think George looks a LOT like Charles when he was a baby? Same nose (it will grow to be a long, hawk like nose like William, Charles, & Philip's) and same bow shaped lips. I haven't got a look at his ears though. :teehee: And he has thick sausage fingers!
QuoteLimited Edition Prince George Stamps
The birth of Prince William and Kate Middleton's son George is to be commemorated with a set of limited edition £1 stamps.
From 21 August a sheet of eight stamps will be available showing the proud parents and bearing the motif: "Announcing the birth of HRH Prince George Alexander Louis."
A special gold foil postmark with the words: "It's a boy" will be added to the tribute.
Royal baby stamp: Royal mail marks birth of Prince George - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013072913822/kate-middleton-prince-george/)
Cindy
The Grandmother Prince George Never Knew: Revisiting Diana and the True Love of Her Life | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/07/diana-cover-hasnat-khan)
Prince George's grandmother is on this months 's Vainty Fair.
The deceased lady is the story and legend that will never die.
Just as other hisotric figures are still analzed, found to be interesting, so is hers.
No different from others in that she was a fashion icon, pop culture icon with an unbeleivable story: Frank Sinatra, Jacqueline Bouvier Kenndey Onassis, Katherine Hephburn and Spencer Tracey, Churchill, etc.
PD's story and likenss , sorry, wiil be around now in these modern times for as long as HER SONS are alive and living their lives. They are NOT Camilla BP SONS , grandchild(ren) no matter how some media and people want to spin it and rewrite it.
What brought this on?
Prince George , HER grandsons ..her sons lives ...their lives being where she never got to be.
Check out Prince George as a teen. Did someone post this? Sorry for reposting.
Weird
Prince George as a teenager? Computer image shows how our future king could look as he grows up | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380392/Prince-George-teenager-Computer-image-shows-future-king-look-grows-up.html)
There's a segment about the article on "Entertainment Tonight". The story is actually about her and Hasnat Khan, and her desire to have a girl with him.
QuoteVanity Fair contributing editor Sarah Ellison reports in the September issue on Princess Diana's 1995-to-1997 relationship with Pakistani heart surgeon Hasnat Khan. Jemima Khan, Diana's close friend and the former wife of Hasnat's distant cousin Imran Khan, tells Ellison, "Diana was madly in love with Hasnat Khan and wanted to marry him, even if that meant living in Pakistan, and that's one of the reasons why we became friends."
The Grandmother Prince George Never Knew: Revisiting Diana and the True Love of Her Life | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/07/diana-cover-hasnat-khan)
"ET" says the movie about Diana is about her affair with him.
Cindy
QuotePrince William signed the birth register for his newborn son, giving his full name as His Royal Highness Prince George Alexander Louis of Cambridge
Prince William and Kate Middleton have formally registered the birth of their newborn son Prince George - giving their occupations as Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom.
The Duke of Cambridge signed the birth register entry for the third-in-line to the throne at Kensington Palace this morning.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-registers-royal-baby-2117399
Cindy
So he doesn't see the RAF as an occupation? Then why is he taking a job from another serviceman/woman and not doing what he sees as an occupation??? And his wife is a princess, he says... William, you are royal, you should know by now that she is not a princess, she is a duchess. And Prince and Princess, dear Uni graduate Prince are not occupations, Einstein. They are titles! She is a housewife and you are an RAF pilot! Isn't the precious boy down to earth...
His RAF job is a temporary job. His permanent job is prince. Kate is a princess by virtue of being married to a prince. "Duchess" is her title. (William's birth certificate listed Diana as Princess of Wales, which she was by virtue of being married to the Prince of Wales.)
It seems strange to us to see things listed that way, but it seems weird, too, that he signed as just "William", with no surname.
Cindy
An occupation is what he does for a living, like pilot of a helicopter and housewife. Title is the position he holds, Prince or Duchess. He was not asked for his title.
Here's a better explanation:
QuoteThe reason why she was referred to as a Princess of the United Kingdom on the birth document of Prince George today is because she is... but not quite as you think. Through marriage, she is Princess William because that is how British titles work. Just like how when you marry, a woman traditionally takes their husband's name – the same is true for titles. -
Why we’ll never see a ‘Princess Catherine’ (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/explanation/why-well-never-see-a-princess-catherine-13573)
Cindy
Royal baby: how the rest of the world covered the story | UK news | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/26/royal-baby-prince-george-world-media-reaction)
They are the cover of this week's People magazine.
It is a bad picture because she looks cross eyed.
I get People amgazine.
Enough with it I hope. Two weeks straight, back to back overs , is enough. We are not British.
First week cover, he was born.
Second week cover, he went home.
WHAT? Third week cover, he is sleeping half of the time through the night. He latches on easily. His first bath. Date of when he opened his eyes.
ENOUGH is enuff!!
It is a title!!!! Still not an occupation. Not aimed at you, Cindy. :hug:
Actually Prince/Princess is an occupation - it is their major occupation and what royals have filled in as occupation for generations.
It is exactly the same occupation that Charles put down on William's registration of birth in 1982. There was no space for an occupation for Diana then.
There main job is being a Prince or Princess.
So it is both a title and an occupation.
As long as he is a pilot and pretending that is the excuse of a job he is using to not become a full time royal then affording him to call Prince an occupation and not just a luxury title, his occupation is RAF pilot.
Limabeany Williams job is first a Prince of the United Kingdom and a serving Military officer secondary. The birth certificates of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie read the same as Prince Georges even though at the time he was a career naval officer and Sarah by virtue of being his wife had the status of a Princess as the wife of HRH Prince Andrew Duke of York her full title was HRH The Princess Andrew Duchess of York.
While he may be a pilot in the RAF, I would say that being a Prince takes precedence over that.
:goodpost:
That is exactly it - he was a Prince of the UK before joining the army, before transferring to the RAF and he will continue to be a Prince of the UK until he becomes King. It is his primary occupation.
I am sorry, but Prince is not his occupation today. It is not what he does today. It is not his job today. When he registered his child he was an RAF pilot who wasn't sure he wanted to take on royal duties, occupation is occupation and his title could be his occupation in the future but when his child was born and when it was registered Primce was his title and not his occupation.
How can anyone say Prince is his primary occupation? It is a future occupation he enjoys the benefits of as a title. So many argue in his favor that he loves being in the military and that it is his job and that he has so much time to make up his mind. Well, you can't have it both ways. It is unrealistic and ridiculous to call his occupation 'Prince' when he has spent the better half of a year, and counting, avoiding announcing he will make that his occupation. Until he does, it is his title.
As a Royal Reporter said, they make it up as they go along.
Prince George's birth officially registered
BBC News - Prince George's birth officially registered (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23552087)
Father's occupation: Prince of the UK. Mother's occupation: Princess . . . it can only be Prince George's birth certificate
Prince George: William and Kate formally register birth at Kensington Palace (and his mother puts 'Princess of the United Kingdom as her occupation) | (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383616/Prince-George-William-Kate-formally-register-birth-Kensington-Palace-mother-puts-Princess-United-Kingdom-occupation.html)
William and Kate have formally registered the birth of Prince George
William and Kate have formally registered the birth of royal baby Prince George - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013080213923/prince-george-registered/)
Kate Middleton Called "Princess" on Prince George's Birth Registry
Kate Middleton Called "Princess" on Prince George's Birth Registry - UsMagazine.com (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-middleton-called-princess-on-prince-georges-birth-registry-201328)
Prince George's Birth Certificate Revealed
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20722596,00.html
DM comment:
"Being made a 'Princess of the UK' is a particular style which can only be granted by the Queen. Kate Cambridge has no such style. Having the courtesy title 'Princess William' doesn't afford her the style of 'Princess of the UK': you would've thought the Windsors would understand the rules of their own silly fantasy titles. - Vincent , London, United Kingdom, 03/8/2013 07:25"
Is this right? Wikipedia seems to agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_princess
Kate is not a princess in her own right, as she is not the daughter of a monarch. But she is a princess by virtue of hr marriage, just as a Duke's wife is a duchess by virtue of her marriage, even if her family has no title. I don't know what you mean by "fantasy titles!". These are legal titles and certainly exist in the real world.
Dang. That wordy birth certificate almost needed a second sheet. :lol: I guess they are too good to write down "RAF Pilot" and...um... "Housewife", "Homemaker" :lol: or "N/A". :shrug: :hide: :lol:
QuoteHis RAF job is a temporary job.
Now that's just sad... :no: imo.
QuoteIt is unrealistic and ridiculous to call his occupation 'Prince' when he has spent the better half of a year, and counting, avoiding announcing he will make that his occupation. Until he does, it is his title
:thumbsup:
QuoteAs a Royal Reporter said, they make it up as they go along.
:lol: :thumbsup:
Amabel, that is not what I asked and I made it clear that it is a quote, a comment from a DM commenter and not my own. As much as I like Van Gogh, I have never claimed my name to be Vincent. :)
Quote from: LIMABEANY on August 03, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
I am sorry, but Prince is not his occupation today. It is not what he does today. It is not his job today.
But it is his occupation today. It has been his occupation from the day he was born, and will be his until his last day on earth.
Cindy
Why is William not fullfilling this Princely occupation then? We keep being told because he is working for SAR - so is that role just an excuse for him not having to carryout his "occupation" to the fullest. As for Kate - I won't even go there.
Quote from: cinrit on August 03, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: LIMABEANY on August 03, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
I am sorry, but Prince is not his occupation today. It is not what he does today. It is not his job today.
But it is his occupation today. It has been his occupation from the day he was born, and will be his until his last day on earth.
Cindy
Occupation is not a passive term which is what Prince is to William. He will always be titled Prince but until he gets off his butt as a royal, he is not by occupation a Prince. RAF pilot is an occupation he should not be occupying instead of another service/man or woman if he doesn't consider it an occupation. He is using RAF pilot to avoid Princely duties, he didn't have to be so obvious about it. Instead of giving it the credit it deserved for being his chosen occupation, his choice of words said, Prince is my real occupation and RAF pilot is not. If he considered it an occupation and not a hobby, he would have listed it as such.
:goodpost: Well said!
I know which I'd rather have on my child's birth certificate.
"Prince of the United Kingdom".... :blink: :Lothwen:
When was this "Prince of the United Kingdom" last seen doing Princely duties? Oh, yes, playing polo (for Charity - of course <_<) and where is this "Prince of the United Kingdom" today - Oh yes, playing polo.....! Couldn't make it up.
Safe to say, this Princely occupation is a nonsense.
And where is the Princess of the United Kingdom - at home in Bucklebury - far too busy to even register the birth of her own baby.
Good news for all prospective parents.....the Registrar does home visits now. No need to drag your tired self down to the local council office any longer. If it's good enough for the Prince/Princess of the UK - surely it's good enough for you.
The registrars have always visited royal homes to register births as it is easier rather than the disruption that would be caused by having the royal person visit the registry office.
If it was expected that William would have visited the registry office the press would have camped outside it from the day of the birth until it happened and the circus that occurred outside the hospital would have happened there as well.
This way it was simpler and less disruptive to everyone.
It happened it the past for royal births and will no doubt happen in the future.
As for the Prince of the UK - that is how royal occupations have been listed regardless of any other jobs the prince may also have.
Prince George of Newham ? what would his life chances be? | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/29/prince-george-newham-life-chances)
@Royalreporter
"The Royal Household briefed on April 29, 2011 and confirmed later that Kate is not a princess.
I put it to them that the wife of a prince had the rank of a princess but all Buckingham Palace said was that she was in no way a Princess. I went back to David Pogson three times to check. Paddy Harverson, Eva Omaghomi, all briefed she was not a princess.
The palace said in 2011 she wasn't Princess William but would have been if she hadn't become a Duchess.
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The argument used was royal duchess trumps a princess by marriage so Kate is no more a princess than a Mrs or Ms.
If she isn't a princess then they have a morganatic marriage which isn't legal in the UK.
The report was that she wasn't Princess Catherine and that to call her Princess William was 'misleading' not that she wasn't a princess per se. She isn't a princess in her own right but she is a Princess of the UK by virtue of marrying a prince.
The issue is that many people don't understand or misinterpret the exact words put out by BP.
From Royal wedding: William and Kate to be Duke and Duchess of Cambridge | UK news | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/apr/29/royal-wedding-william-kate-cambridge) on 29th April, 2011 Explaining the slightly confusing picture, a palace spokesman said: "She is not a princess in her own right. That title has not been conferred on her. Her title is that of duchess. So she is not Princess Catherine. And to call her Princess William of Wales is misleading."
The term used was 'misleading' not that she wasn't a princess at all but that to use the lower title of princess would have been 'misleading' as there was a higher title to use. It might have been better if the BP spokesman had realised that most people don't understand the ways of the BRF and titles within it and had been more specific but the message is there for people who do understand these things - she is a princess by marriage but there is a higher title for her to use and so Duchess of Cambridge is the more correct title.
People seem to think that Princess is higher than Duchess when it isn't e.g. Princess Richard of Gloucester doesn't use that title any more and hasn't since her husband was promoted to the peerage so she went from Princess Richard to The Duchess of Gloucester.
He is a Royal Duke which is higher in rank than a Duke. But it is usually given to a sovereign's son as a Mark of status when he gets married - which is usually nowadays when he undertakes royal duties.
If Will Had not been made Duke of Cambridge, and he and K had married, she would have been known as Princess Williiam of Wales. She is a princess but it is more correct ot refer to her as a royal duchess.
Kate Middleton listed as a Princess on Prince George's birth certificate - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013080513943/kate-middleton-princess-birth-certificate/)
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QuoteRegistration certificate Curiosities Prince George of Cambridge
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From what I have read, there are three legal status in UK. Sovereign, Peer and Commoner. If you are not the Queen/King and don't have a peerage (in your own right) then you are a commoner. Princess Anne, Harry and Eugenie and Bea are all commoners. They have the title of Prince/Princess but are not Peers. William was a commoner until he was given his Dukedom etc. QE was a commoner on the day of her marriage but PP was a peer.
Kate takes her rank from William and therefore, as Memememe has explained, she is a Duchess because that is the highest rank William holds. Calling her Princess William would be wrong because that would imply she is a commoner and so is her husband.
Archaic and confusing system. :wacko:
The palace did not want Kate to be the new "Princess of Wales" which the press would have made her if BP had given them the chance. That is why, IMHO, they promoted the Duke/Dutchess so much.
Quote Miss Cathcart filled it in before it was signed by the duke
Read more: Prince George: William and Kate formally register birth at Kensington Palace (and his mother puts 'Princess of the United Kingdom as her occupation) | (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383616/Prince-George-William-Kate-formally-register-birth-Kensington-Palace-mother-puts-Princess-United-Kingdom-occupation.html#ixzz2b9kZCp1Y)
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William/Kate did not fill out the form, the registrar did, they just signed it. She may have asked someone, maybe William or an aid, if Prince of UK was ok/right and then assumed from there. Possible.
Quote from: cinrit on August 03, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
But it is his occupation today. It has been his occupation from the day he was born, and will be his until his last day on earth.
Cindy
His occupation will not be a Prince of UK until death, unless he dies before Charles. It will be King of UK.
Kate could not be Princess of Wales because William is not POW. Charles is.
True, but it was stated that William was still the same as he has been his whole life, Prince William of Wales. And if the press only did what is right, Diana never would have been called Princess Diana by them.
QuoteOn marriage, Prince William retained the title Prince William of Wales
I think the press would have called her Princess Kate if they had not pushed Duke/Dutchess titles so hard, right or wrong is irrelevant to them. And I also think BP did not want another "Princess".
This is how I understand it. In William's case, "Prince" was like being called "Mister." In terms of "titles" it really didn't mean anything. But when he got married, and the Queen made him a "Duke" it was like earning the title of "Doctor" (without having to go to school for many many years). So while all (male) doctors are "Misters" not all "Misters" are doctors.
Quote from: NotWaitieKatie on August 06, 2013, 03:35:07 AM
The palace did not want Kate to be the new "Princess of Wales" which the press would have made her if BP had given them the chance. That is why, IMHO, they promoted the Duke/Dutchess so much.
Kate couldn't have been Princess of Wales, since William is not Prince of Wales. She could only be Princess William, which she is, technically. William was given the title Duke of Cambridge because it's customary to give a title upon marriage. Andrew and Edward were also given titles when they got married; Harry will no doubt get one when he marries.
Quote from: NotWaitieKatieHis occupation will not be a Prince of UK until death, unless he dies before Charles. It will be King of UK.
True enough ... I wasn't looking ahead.
Cindy
I'm sorry but this occupation debate, I don't see it as a big deal. It's just more of a matter of official/protocol kind of thing. :shrug: Hence, the Prince of the UK as an occupation statement. That's just what they are supposed to write under occupation. He didn't choose to ignore his RAF job, that's just the way it is.
I think RAF is an occupation and is his active occupation, and someone who pretends to consider himself one of them and is taking the job one of hem could have should give that job the credit of being his active and current occupation. He was born a Prince but he is performing full time the duties of an RAF pilot not of a Prince.
What is stopping William carrying out his Prince of the UK occupation?
And what is stopping Kate carrying out her Princess of the UK occupation?'
IMO... Laziness... Complacency... Being talk the talk and not walk the walk sort of people... She is a 32 year old woman who has dabbled in work, to expect her to suddenly develop a love of duty and work ethic in middleage is, IMO, an expectation clearly not based on the individual's behaviour well into adulthood but a fantasy. One can hope, of course, but an an expectation it is simply not based on reality or that individual's history and is more indicative of the fact that those people know she sould be perfoming those duties and expect her to be doing them as a normal human adult with an occupation (Princess of the UK). It is a contradiction to say that her occupation is Princess of the UK today and not to expect her to perform any of the duties telated to such occupation in the present but sometime in the future. Either it is her occupation and she performs the duties it entails or she is mocking the occupation by not performing any duties thereof.
I couldn't agree more!
The powers at the Palace must be tearing their hair out to try and deal with this Princess of the UK and her woeful work ethic.
Maternity leave, breast feeding, a 2 week old infant.......
I think she meant the years before that. The criticism over little/immaterial things (e.g., Princess of the UK) for her and William are, IMO, indicative of dissatisfaction with both, especially her.
Prince Philip's on his way to meet Prince George | Royal | News | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/421193/Prince-Philip-s-on-his-way-to-meet-Prince-George)
QuoteThe Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are set to head to Balmoral with son George and are expected to arrive "within days rather than weeks".
For the first time in more than a century, three heirs to the throne are alive and the 87-year-old Queen is expected to pose for photographs with son Prince Charles, 64, grandson Prince William, 31 and great grandson Prince George, nearly three weeks old.
The last such picture was of Queen Victoria in 1894 with her son, grandson and great grandson: Edward VII, George V and Edward VIII respectively.
QuoteThe Duke of Cambridge has described his new son as a "little bit of a rascal".
In his first interview since the birth of Prince George on 22 July, Prince William said he and Kate were enjoying their new role as parents.
"He either reminds me of my brother or me when I was younger, I'm not sure, but he's doing very well at the moment," he told CNN.
He also said his son did not "want to go to sleep that much, which is a little bit of a problem".
The duke admitted he does not get up in the night to see to the baby as much as Kate, adding that she is doing a "fantastic job".
Prince William said he believes fatherhood has changed him already.
"The last few weeks for me have been just a very different emotional experience," he said.
BBC News - Prince George is a little bit of a rascal - William (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23758170)
Prince William interview: Future king talks fatherhood, baby George - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/19/world/prince-william-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Max Foster was very complimentary in his comments about William and the interview after the clip was shown this morning on CNN. :)
Cindy
After father, I guess. The newborn doesn't sleep, it needs a routine. Wasn't William called Bill The Basher and by Diana as Wills Wombat Combat? He has good tantrums and rants, it is after father and he is surprised. :Lothwen: :censored2: Thing who will win after certain time. :sneeze:
Quote from: cinrit on August 19, 2013, 01:55:11 PM
Max Foster was very complimentary in his comments about William and the interview after the clip was shown this morning on CNN. :)
Cindy
William seemed very happy and at ease, so I am sure Max Foster had a great time as well.
He did seem relaxed, and very proud of his new family. I'm looking forward to watching the entire interview when it's aired next month.
Cindy
:computer: yes dont forget its on harrys birthday ......
It's hard to believe George is almost a month old already! :blowkiss:
Quote'It's been an emotional experience... Catherine and George are my priorities now': Prince William on sleepless nights, changing nappies and the legacy he wants to leave his newborn son
Prince William has spoken for the first time since the birth of his son, Prince George, about the life changing experience of becoming a father.
He describes it as an 'emotional' time and one that has left him more affected than he ever thought he would be.
But the future king cannot resist joking about the sleepless nights and endless dirty nappies George has brought with him.
Asked about what legacy he would like to leave to his son, William quips: 'At the moment, the only legacy I want to pass on to him is to sleep more and maybe not have to change his nappy so many times.'
George has changed my life: Prince William on sleepless nights, changing nappies and the legacy he wants to leave his new son | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2397037/George-changed-life-Prince-William-sleepless-nights-changing-nappies-legacy-wants-leave-new-son.html)
Cindy
Well from what William said in the interview he is totally happy and content with his marriage and new son and of course Lupo perhaps he is now coming into his own as a confident young man who certainly knows where his priorities lie. Charles should be really proud of his son and if Diana were here she too would be really proud that her son is happy.
From what he said in the interview, I think William seemed to be very proud of George. I particularly liked the "you're only too happy to show off your newborn child and proclaim that he is the best looking or the best everything" comment he made. :)
Wort.lu - Prince George 'a rascal' says William (http://www.wort.lu/en/view/prince-george-a-rascal-says-william-52123324e4b0d19d6346364e)
when the darling get a darling changes the world. what's first is actually defined, well.
Nice to see Prince William being so open about his son.
If William thinks George is a "rascal" now, just wait until the kid is mobile :lol:
And Will will eventually experience George's teenage years!
According to Hello, Prince George has increased the popularity of the Royal Family:
QuotePrince George of Cambridge is set to help the royal family with their increasing popularity with the British public.
The British Social Attitudes survey, which was carried out by NatCen, has found that in recent years the royals have regained public affection and in 2012 only 5% of people said that they thought the monarchy should be abolished.
Last year's survey reported that only 4% classed the royals as "not at all important" while 45% of people said that they felt it is "very important" that Britain continues to have a monarchy.
Prince George is thought to lead to an increase in the royal family's popularity - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013101015013/prince-george-to-improve-royal-affection/)
Ah, yes... The Phantom Prince George, brand new character in the Royal British Mythology... :happy15:
The birth of George may have sparked a renewed interest in the Monarchy, but it's nothing that's very substantial.
QuoteHis eyes are a Middleton brown, his hair a Windsor russet — and his blood a unique light blue.
Posing at his christening in the Chapel Royal in St James's Palace on Wednesday, three-month-old Prince George may have seemed his own little man, but look closely and you will see more strands of the British Royal Family in his chubby face than in any GCSE history course book.
Most obvious, of course, is that imperious expression, which no doubt would have amused great, great, great, great, great grandmother Queen Victoria enormously.
Haven't we seen that face before? How George DEFINITELY gets his looks from his family | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2475921/Havent-seen-face-How-George-DEFINITELY-gets-looks-family.html)
I think George looks a lot like William, and, in my opinion, there's also some resemblance to Zara and Anne in him as well.
Quote from: Lothwen on October 12, 2013, 01:51:13 AM
The birth of George may have sparked a renewed interest in the Monarchy, but it's nothing that's very substantial.
People in the UK don't go around thinking of the monarchy with every breath.
The lack of crowds behind the crowd barriers told me all I need to know. It's always the same old faces, covered in Union Jacks :hide:
It was a wednesday most people would be at work. I was in bed fast asleep after a night shift nothing nasty about the christening I just needed my sleep.
Who said it was "nasty" - the lack of interest was evident. Only the die-hards bothered to turn up.
If you were not at work - would you have gone, Paula?
I really don't think that indicates any particular lack of interest, since most people knew it was a private event and there would be little to see.
Cars driving up, that's about it. Why bother to stand around for that? :shrug:
People don't go to christenings, as a rule. Royal weddings, big one yes. But as you say why would anyone except the sort of very ardent fans who try to go to everything, go to a private event where they wont see anything?
I disagree, they go and stand at a charity for hours to see her walk by, the Christening would have had a lot of people and is a historical occassion, there should have been more interest.
But the thing is that they weren't able to see anyone walk by at the christening. No point in being there except for the people who just want to be able to say they were there.
Cindy
As with many of her charity visits, no?
QuoteThe christening of Prince George marked the first time that four generations of monarchs — present and future — had gathered for a picture for more than a century. It was in 1894, at the christening of the future Edward VIII that such a majestic group had last sat for a photographer, when the baby was seen with his father, grandfather and great-grandmother — George V, Edward VII and Queen Victoria.
There was, however, one shot that William and Daniel Downey, the court photographers of Ebury Street, Belgravia, managed to take that Jason Bell appeared to have neglected in his much-talked-about set of photographs last month: the reigning monarch with the baby.
"Of course, it is the obvious shot and I don't for one moment think that it didn't occur to Mr Bell to take it," a senior courtier tells me, somewhat teasingly, when I raise the question. "I mean, the man is a professional, after all. All I can really say on this matter is: 'watch this space'."
More: The Queen will be left holding the baby at Christmas - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10422566/The-Queen-will-be-left-holding-the-baby-at-Christmas.html)
Cindy
Oh I do hope we see a shot of the Queen holding George for her Christmas card! That would be grand! :nod:
Nothing like photos of a great gramma being googa over a baby! :vday2:
There was a later photo of Queen Victoria with her son, grandson & greatgrandson. The future Edward VIII looks to be about 3 or 4.
Is the photo with the Queen and George going to be the real thing or photoshopped?
I would like the Queen to be seen with all her great grandchildren. Maybe after Zara's baby is born she and Philip could pose with all four great grandkids and that could be next year's Christmas Card. Even though George is "the heir" he is not her only great granchild.
I don't agree with kids being used as PR (see the other thread)
But I do agree with you on this. If she is being photographed as a doting granny, then all the kids should be there. But the Christening is a current event and she often uses a current happening, so I can see this. I am sure that the other ones are just as special to her but in the role of monarch, George is the more important one. And these cards are the official Queen cards so it will be the royal role, not the private granny role that is displayed
She never did this with William why would she with George
She had a photo taken with Philip with her then four grandchildren: Peter, Zara, William and Harry. She probably down the road had a photo taken with all the grandchildren. She didn't keep William separate from the others.
I'm sorry but George, at this age, is no more important than any other of her Grandchildren. Include them all - or none of them.
They cannot have it both ways. Hide him away or play fair.
To the monarchy, yes he IS more important. That is why there was so much fuss when he was born. That is why we have a separate board for him here on RI. As a great-grandchild to his granny, he is just as important as his older cousins. But no more.
Sorry, but I do not understand your point. One minute you are asking for privacy for young George and then you believe he should be paraded around as a lone Grandchild - on the front of the Queen's Christmas card?
PR at its best. So which is it?
BTW I disagree that a yound baby should have his own board. But that is another matter for another time :hug:
They are still a family and as a great grandparent the Queen should include all of them. The Christening photo showed the "generations" of future monarchs but Christmas cards should not make a statement about the baby being "the heir." IMO anyway.
Quote from: sophiechloe on November 05, 2013, 07:37:09 PM
Sorry, but I do not understand your point. One minute you are asking for privacy for young George and then you believe he should be paraded around as a lone Grandchild - on the front of the Queen's Christmas card?
PR at its best. So which is it?
BTW I disagree that a yound baby should have his own board. But that is another matter for another time :hug:
I do want privacy for the kid. I don't think the public has the right to see the kid just for the sake of seeing him. I don't think he should be paraded around but if the Queen wants to put a photo of heir apparent twice removed on her Official Queenie cards, that's her right. What I am argueing is that in terms of the Monarchy George is more important than the other grandchildren - which is why he is the sole kid with the Queen. Look at it this way: it isn't the great grandchild on grannies knee, it is the 3rd in line on the Monarch's knee. But in private he is the third great grandchild. Precious but no more special than the girls.
To the Monarchy Charles is more important than his siblings, William is more important than Harry, George is more important than Harry, Harry is more important than Bea, Bea more than Eugenie etc etc etc...... It is simply the way the line of succession works. But only to the institution of the Monarchy. Not to Elizabeth Windsor, grannie. To her, I hope they are all special and important.
I understand Darling, sort of.
However the picture with this Great Granny should have been published at the time of being taken - all seems somewhat mucky otherwise.
Wonder if Mrs Middleton will have her own version for the locals.
Framed and gilded
With a little 'c' at the bottom no doubt :hug:
A crown on top of the frame? :hehe:
Ooooh, we are bad (and getting OT :blush: )
You are funny. :love6: :love6:
Quote from: sophiechloe on November 05, 2013, 07:37:09 PM
Sorry, but I do not understand your point. One minute you are asking for privacy for young George and then you believe he should be paraded around as a lone Grandchild - on the front of the Queen's Christmas card?
PR at its best. So which is it?
BTW I disagree that a yound baby should have his own board. But that is another matter for another time :hug:
I'm glad it's back to the child board it's creepy to stalk a few month s old baby can we wait till he's 18. Lol
All royal children/grand/great have been photographed. If they weren't we wouldn't have so many pictures of Charles & Anne. Even Edward VIII was photographed throughout his childhood.
Edward VII is pictured in several photographs with his grandchildren.
The only difference is today everything is instant.
If the Queen decides her Christmas card should only include George and not her other great grand kids that's ok. (At least with me, but another slap in the face to Princess Anne.)
WhatKateWore.com @WhatKateWore
Prince George is one of Barbara Walter's "Most Fascinating People of 2013". Just Announced: Barbara Walters’ Picks for Most Fascinating People of 2013 - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/12/just-announced-barbara-walters-picks-for-most-fascinating-people-of-2013/) ...
Barbara Walters' 'Most Fascinating People of the Year' for 2013 | Photos - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/slideshow/barbara-walters-fascinating-people-year-2013-21020543)
Cindy
QuoteParents have moved away from naming their babies after members of the Royal family because they do not want to be seen as copycats.
The shift in attitudes was revealed by researchers for the website BabyCentre, who have released the top 100 baby names for 2013. Olivia was the most popular for girls, and Oliver for boys, up three places from last year.
The name George, which had been rising in popularity since 2010, came in at number nine in the boys' chart in June this year. But it was pushed out of the top 10 after July, when Prince George was born. Other royal names, including William, Harry, Charles, Kate, Catherine and even Prince George's middle name Louis – also fell out of favour.
Popularity of Royal baby names wane as Breaking Bad inspires parents - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10487317/Popularity-of-Royal-baby-names-wane-as-Breaking-Bad-inspires-parents.html)
The Washington Post declared Prince George "The world's most famous baby" and its easy to see why. PG is the most searched for term on Yahoo! for 2013 and now Barbara Walters' Picks Prince George for the Most Fascinating People of 2013 - ABC News ...
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The 90-minute program will air Wednesday, Dec. 18, at 9:30 p.m. ET.
Really? :Lothwen:
Sorry, but why not wait until he does something other than spit up before putting him on the list?
Barbara can't interview him now that's for sure. It would be Goo Goo Dah Dah and then she could ask him to Roar Like a Lion.
Quote from: Lothwen on December 03, 2013, 01:29:00 AM
Really? :Lothwen:
Sorry, but why not wait until he does something other than spit up before putting him on the list?
Lets not forget this Prince George of Cambridge ahead of Boris Johnson in Evening Standard's top 20 influential Londoners list | Metro News (http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/19/prince-george-tops-most-powerful-people-in-london-list-overtaking-boris-johnson-4054382/)
I can see one of the most Known babies. But fascinating? We have seen him twice. Influential? Lets wait until he is on solids. :Lothwen:
The silly things people come up with... :Lothwen: :orchid:
If I could smack Barbara Walters I would...... :catfight:
Most influential??? Then I read the other names on the list - Kanye, Kim K and Miley???
WHAT AN INSULT TO PRINCE GEORGE!!!!!!!!
:lol:
Shameless woman is using a baby to get attention
Barbara Walters doesn't need to do anything to get attention. She's one of the most recognized and well-respected American female journalists. She has been doing the "Most Fascinating People of XX" special for 20 years (since 1993). As she has explained countless times, "most fascinating" doesn't mean anything more than "fascinating". It doesn't mean intelligent or influential or accomplished or talented, nor has she ever indicated that it does. The fact that Prince George was the most searched name on Yahoo this year is probably what makes him fascinating.
Barbara Walters is 84 years old. After a lifetime as a journalist, she announced a few months ago that she will be retiring next year.
Cindy
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QuotePrince George Named To 'Most Fascinating People Of The Year' List For 2013
Thanks to Barbara Walters, Prince George has just been named one of the "Most Fascinating People of the Year" for 2013.
We hear you scoffing, and we get it: He's just a baby. He's been alive for about four months and counting. He is, by all accounts, a pretty average infant, one who "wriggles around quite a lot" and "doesn't want to go to sleep that much."
And yet little Georgie has captivated the public's attention on a scale that's hard to deny. Here are nine reasons the newest prince of England fascinated the world in 2013:
More: Prince George Named To 'Most Fascinating People Of The Year' List For 2013 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/prince-george-most-fascinating_n_4372578.html)
Cindy
:goodpost: :goodpost:
QuoteAccording to his father Prince William, the royal tot has learnt how to crawl and his first milk tooth is starting to come through. George is also "doing well" with his weaning, the proud dad said.
William was making the revelation as he and his wife Kate Middleton celebrated St Patrick's Day in Aldershot. The first-time parents had travelled to Hampshire on Monday morning to attend the annual parade at Mons Barracks, as they have done for the past three year
More: Prince William talks about Prince George - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014031717565/prince-william-reveals-prince-george-crawls/)
Wonder if they missed the first crawl - whilst they were sunning their cheeks off. Shame on them both, if they did! >(
Many, many parents miss their child's first crawl, whether they are on vacation or their child is in day care or at grandma's. The great thing about technology is that the parents can see it almost instantly via online movies or Skype. Missing a first crawl doesn't make anyone a bad parent. I'm sure George would get plenty of hugs by proxy!
From personal experience, I can say that being on vacation doesn't mean you don't love or miss your baby. Plus, George was old enough to crawl before the left.
Quote from: Rebound on March 17, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
Many, many parents miss their child's first crawl, whether they are on vacation or their child is in day care or at grandma's.
Yes I agree, they miss the first moments because they are usually out working to pay the bills. Not holidaying....again.
Does William ever spend time with George?
^^^ I would imagine that William hasn't been able to spend much time with George due to his agricultural course and the Maldives Holiday...
That was a cute anecdote. :vday2: Time flies.
I wish we could see more of George, I would love to see a photo of him showing off his teeth.
^^^ Prince George was born July 2013, William has spent almost all his time with him.
Really....I thought he was "working" and ". transitioning" - not to mention the bespoke course at Cambridge and the jaunts with his mates and Jecca. What time could he possibly be spending with baby George.
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Quote from: HereditaryPrincess on March 17, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
I wish we could see more of George, I would love to see a photo of him showing off his teeth.
I agree. It would be lovely to see him :hug:
Sadly, not to be....unless using the poor mite for royal PR.
^^ And let's not forget, William has an apartment in Cambridge. Something I've thought very odd...
I guess William spends time with George evenings and weekends, like most dads.
It was stated that the apartment in Cambridge is available for William, should he have late classes or lectures. It was never stated that it was intended to be a permanent residence during his studies.
Cindy
Quote from: cinrit on March 17, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
I guess William spends time with George evenings and weekends, like most dads.
Evenings? - When they are sleeping...not crawling. As for weekends - is William not off Killing things.
Quote from: cinrit on March 17, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
I guess William spends time with George evenings and weekends, like most dads.
It was stated that the apartment in Cambridge is available for William, should he have late classes or lectures. It was never stated that it was intended to be a permanent residence during his studies.
Cindy
And moms. That's the only time I get with my kiddo, and I've missed quite a bit. But I don't have the option of staying home like William and Kate.
You're right, Jenee ... working moms, too.
Cindy
It seems likely Will and Kate missed seeing George crawl. From Twitter:
Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter 2h
Did William and Kate miss George crawling for the first time while they were in the Maldives? It seems likely but we'll probably never know.
Richard Palmer @RoyalReporter 2h
George has only begun crawling in the last couple of weeks, I believe. Grandparents are often discreet if big changes happen on their watch.
George has been crawling for a couple of weeks so its just as likely they didn't miss it but as it is absolutely no one's business there will be no formal press announcement either way.
Sounds like George is right on schedule for his developmental milestones. Time to move everything out of reach. :D
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 17, 2014, 08:22:29 PM
^^^ Prince George was born July 2013, William has spent almost all his time with him.
But the agricultural course and Maldives holiday would still mean that William has spent time away from George, so he hasn't really spent all his time with him. And if you count his engagements from July-December 2013, that would add up to even more time away from George.
My mother used to send me to holiday clubs and childminders when I was little, because she couldn't find all the time in the world to spend time with me. I agree on the fact that most parents don't get to spend time with their children 24/7. Looking at it, there are other parents in the UK who spend more time away from their children than William and Kate do due to a busy time at work.
Well said, HereditaryPrincess ! :clap:
Quote from: HereditaryPrincess on March 18, 2014, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 17, 2014, 08:22:29 PM
^^^ Prince George was born July 2013, William has spent almost all his time with him.
But the agricultural course and Maldives holiday would still mean that William has spent time away from George, so he hasn't really spent all his time with him. And if you count his engagements from July-December 2013, that would add up to even more time away from George.
My mother used to send me to holiday clubs and childminders when I was little, because she couldn't find all the time in the world to spend time with me. I agree on the fact that most parents don't get to spend time with their children 24/7. Looking at it, there are other parents in the UK who spend more time away from their children than William and Kate do due to a busy time at work.
I didn't mean literally every moment, so yes I concede William has spent time away from George, what traumatic psychological impact this will have on George's future development is open for speculation. I cannot say.
^^^ I understand now, PrincessOfPeace, although your previous post did sound like you meant something along the lines of "spending time with George 24/7".
Quote from: sophiechloe on March 17, 2014, 06:38:24 PM
Wonder if they missed the first crawl - whilst they were sunning their cheeks off. Shame on them both, if they did! >(
My sister missed her daughters first step as she took them while she was serving up their birthday dinner we don't know if they missed it or not!
No, we don't know for sure. However, your sister was in the kitchen, being a Mother - W&K were in the Maldives sunning their behinds.
Quote from: sophiechloe on March 21, 2014, 06:34:55 AM
No, we don't know for sure. However, your sister was in the kitchen, being a Mother - W&K were in the Maldives sunning their behinds.
So what people go on holiday with and without the kids
His 1st crawl could have been in his crib while everyone was asleep.
It was his 1st witnessed crawl.
Yesterday from Twitter
British Royals @BritishRoyals Prince George gets his first magazine cover! Australia's @WomensWeeklyMag's April issue gears up for the royal tour Twitter / WomensWeeklyMag: Our April issue is out tomorrow ... (https://twitter.com/WomensWeeklyMag/status/448697355580092416/photo/1)
I think he's a combination of both parents at this point. He has William's lighter hair color, but I think the face shape is more like Kate's baby photos
^^^ Emily Andrews of The Sun tweeted this:
Emily Andrews @byEmilyAndrews Mar 27
We all met Prince George couple of weeks back-total cutie tho a big bouncer of a baby. Looks so like William here Twitter / byEmilyAndrews: We all met Prince George couple ... (https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/status/449098263371976704/photo/1)
Emily Andrews @byEmilyAndrews 8 hrs
To those asking: George has dark blond/light brown hair, "Middleton" eyes (says Kate) and was wearing a Union Jack jumper when we met. #cute
QuoteThe public have been given another window into the upbringing of Prince George with a new official family photograph showing the eight-month-old royal with the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their pet dog Lupo.
More: Prince George relaxes at home in happy family portrait - ITV News (http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-03-29/new-photo-shows-prince-george-with-parents-and-dog/)
He is such a cutie
Aww George is gorgeous. :vday4: :hug: :vday4:
As for the other two :Lothwen: too little, too late.
QuoteIt is a tender, natural and intimate portrait which shows, for the first time, something of the personality of young Prince George.
Released on his first Mothering Sunday, this official portrait – in a relaxed style perfectly reflecting the Duke and Duchess's very modern approach to Royalty – depicts the eight-month-old as a curious, affectionate toddler, gazing into the eyes of the family's beloved Lupo.
George seems devoted to the cocker spaniel and, judging by the adoration on Lupo's face, the sentiments are returned.
More: Oh George, haven't you grown! In personalised jumper and smiling delightedly at Lupo the cocker spaniel, a beautiful Mother's Day portrait of Prince (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592416/Oh-George-havent-grown-In-personalised-jumper-smiling-delightedly-Lupo-cocker-spaniel-beautiful-Mothers-Day-portrait-Prince-George-two-VERY-proud-parents.html)
There is nothing "natural" about that photo. Totally staged - however, nice to see baby George.
He will become more of a 'prop' for W&K as each year passes IMO.
I don't think it's as informal as some are saying it is, but I do love seeing George. (I wish we could see his whole face!) I think he's got the Middleton eyes, and baby Kate's cheeks! :vday4:
I'm glad they've released a photo, but on Mother's Day, and drumming up goodwill after their vacation? Well done, palace :PR: !
Prince George at eight months: Portrait of royal on brink of adventure - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/29/world/europe/prince-george-photo/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
What a cutie! And as an animal person, I love that they include Lupo in their family photos. :happy:
Cindy
^^ Agree with you Cindy, I was happy to see Lupo still very much a member of the fam.
Me too! I love dogs. Twitter and the internet are going crazy over the photo!
Lovely photo you can tell professional took it ...
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on March 29, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
Twitter and the internet are going crazy over the photo!
Mission accomplished! Look at William with his rolled up sleeves :hehe: such a hands-on father.....Bread and circuses..... :orchid:
Again, George is a lovely looking chap :vday4:
George is an adorable baby and the photo gives of a nice, relaxed family atmosphere, although I am a little disappointed at how there's only one photo. William and Kate seem to have a 'thing' for releasing one or two photos.
I love the Monarchist Press!!! Prince George on the front of tomorrow's Daily Mail, The Sunday Times, The Sunday Telegraph and Sunday Express.
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/29/299135/default/v2/the-mail-on-sunday-1-329x437.jpg
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/29/299134/default/v1/express-1-329x437.jpg
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/29/299133/default/v1/times-1-329x437.jpg
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2014/3/29/299130/default/v0/telegraph-1-329x437.jpg
Shameless PR obviously but he's adorable. The DM's write up is especially nauseating but this makes me laugh:
Prince George's personalised jumper is believed to be a bespoke design, created especially for the young Royal.
The unique powder blue design is understood to have been machine made using the finest 100 per cent cashmere yarn, much like the material favoured by Royal favourite Johnstons of Elgin.
It's a jumper with his name on DM, calm down.
SO adorable :coy: Can't wait to see more of him during the Aus/NZ tour
Love this portrait! They all look great! Finally a good quality and great looking picture from those two! :thumbsup: This relaxed-natural thing should give way to a more formal sitting soon...
Baby is cute . They had to release this pic before tour . Also the write up in the DM is gag worthy . Just because they have an adorable baby does not Suddendly make them less lazy . The pic is strange too me but George is a cutie . Think he looks like Charles at that age but yet he looks like uncle Gary I see no Will . Maybe in person . I love his lips
:lol:
Quote from: mirrormaze on March 29, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
Shameless PR obviously but he's adorable. The DM's write up is especially nauseating but this makes me laugh:
Prince George's personalised jumper is believed to be a bespoke design, created especially for the young Royal.
The unique powder blue design is understood to have been machine made using the finest 100 per cent cashmere yarn, much like the material favoured by Royal favourite Johnstons of Elgin.
It's a jumper with his name on DM, calm down.
Great photo!
Quote from: Limabeany on March 30, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
Love this portrait! They all look great! Finally a good quality and great looking picture from those two! :thumbsup: This relaxed-natural thing should give way to a more formal sitting soon...
I agree. :nod:
The Cambridge Family Release new Official Photograph | Royal Insight (http://www.royalinsight.net/the-cambridge-family-release-new-official-photograph/)
Staged or not I think the picture is nice if not just a little dull. I love little George looking at Lupo it seems they have struck up a friendship. I think George looks just like his mother he is so adorable and as an Italian Mother I would just love to pinch those cheeks. I hope once they are on tour they do at least one photo call like Charles and Diana did with William.
Quote from: Limabeany on March 30, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
Love this portrait! They all look great! Finally a good quality and great looking picture from those two! :thumbsup: This relaxed-natural thing should give way to a more formal sitting soon...
Relaxed? Her smile is so forced ...
True, she looks made of plastic but the poses and William are very relaxed...
What a wonderful mothering Sunday portrait. I can't wait for the royal tour
I wonder why they released it... :hmm:
^ To mark their upcoming Australian Tour also it bounded well with Kate's first Mother's Day ...
I agree. I think it had a lot to do with Mother's Day. But the main thing is that they did release it, and we get to see how much little George has grown ... and how cute he is. :)
Cindy
Quote from: Eri on March 30, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
^ To mark their upcoming Australian Tour also it bounded well with Kate's first Mother's Day ...
I think, more than mark their tour, it is so British people don't criticize them for only showing George to the Australians, since they haven't shown him in England like they will do there...
From the couple's website.
A photograph of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince George (http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.org/news-and-diary/photograph-of-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-george)
Quote from: Limabeany on March 30, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
I wonder why they released it... :hmm:
Following in his parents' footsteps. Photos of William at around the same age were released prior to the Wales' trip to Australia in 1983. The photos were taken indoors and William is wearing a white romper with blue smocking. :paparazzi:
It makes me uneasy to see the baby's face so close to the dog.
Animals can be so unpredictable, and once something happens it's too late!
A beautiful collection of pictures
Prince George in Pictures - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/royalty/10732302/Prince-George-in-Pictures.html)
Nice picture. Stged? Well,they posed. Staged, not really in that you cannot make a baby and an animal do anything!!!
The baby and dog look like buds.
Sandor, I see your point.
It depends.
The breed of animal. Personality type. Intro of baby to the dog and the dog, in PW n K and like many other couples 'case, WAS the baby. Pets can be jealous of new humans and new pets coming into the family.
The dog might see the baby as a food source/friend in that the dog knows when the baby eats, be there under the highchair because the baby will throw food down or leave delicious crumbs. Of course, that is an adult with the baby when the baby is eating.
I read AnnLanders or Abby say, "Neither a child or pet should be left alone unless both are able to defnd each other."
some pets are aggreeives. Jealous. Some kids are burtal, although not meaning to be, to pets who just take . Tail pulling. Throwing toys at them. Etc.
They are going to duplicate the Charles Diana tour as much as possible Wonder if Kate has the dress Diana wore something like it while they sit on a blanket with George . Funny how Diana can be used in this whole thing . Expect big crowds George Will make it bigger . Get he is a cute baby but it is a little crazy It was smart how they kept him out of view until he was needed . Think I read 48 engagements Seems like a lot ( is for them ) but gone almost 3 weeks Do u notice when Charles goes on tour he is working until the last day and right back out there when he returns . Ok he is next but I do respect his accomplishments
They're going to Australia and New Zealand, apparently at the Queen's request. Diana has nothing to do with it, unless they're expected to never go anywhere that she went.
Cindy
According to the Mail online, Prince George's blue jumper was a gift from Charles.
Quote from: robynrose on March 30, 2014, 11:25:32 PM
They are going to duplicate the Charles Diana tour as much as possible Wonder if Kate has the dress Diana wore something like it while they sit on a blanket with George . Funny how Diana can be used in this whole thing . Expect big crowds George Will make it bigger . Get he is a cute baby but it is a little crazy It was smart how they kept him out of view until he was needed . Think I read 48 engagements Seems like a lot ( is for them ) but gone almost 3 weeks Do u notice when Charles goes on tour he is working until the last day and right back out there when he returns . Ok he is next but I do respect his accomplishments
I agree. It is the only reason they are so desperate to go while George is still a baby. Charles, unlike heir and heiress has never been work-shy.
Quote from: TLLK on March 30, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Limabeany on March 30, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
I wonder why they released it... :hmm:
Following in his parents' footsteps. Photos of William at around the same age were released prior to the Wales' trip to Australia in 1983. The photos were taken indoors and William is wearing a white romper with blue smocking. :paparazzi:
Makes sense. Although many of Charles and Diana's pics with William as a babe were indoors and/or playing with them, William and Kate's are all posed and are taken from outside or outside as if subliminally sending a message to keep everyone away and outside looking in at them from a distance. They really share nothing spontaneous....
Soooo gorgeous!!
QuoteWith parents like his, there was never any doubt Prince George was going to be a bonny baby.
But perhaps he has his mother to thank for one of his most charming features.
For looking at a picture of the Duchess of Cambridge as a baby, it's clear he has inherited his adorable chubby cheeks from her.
But George's flick of fair hair on show in the latest Cambridge family portrait is undeniably the mark of his father, who was blond at a similar age.
More: Prince George is the spitting image of Kate as a baby in family portrait released for Mother's Day | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592932/Prince-George-spitting-image-Kate-baby-family-portrait-released-Mothers-Day.html)
The Cambridges aren't the only Royals to be photographed looking out of windows .......
Search - Getty Images : GBR: (FILE) A Look Back: Royals At The Window By Studio Lisa (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=481831877&EditorialProduct=Royalty)
Cindy
They are the only ones to never have been photographs candidly, only posed, as if saying, we will give the mannequin version of ourselves, but not ourselves."
Okay, I looked at the photos Cindy posted. If you haven't peeked at them yet, you've got to see this one:
Queen Elizabeth II And Charles Prince Of Wales Helping? News Photo | Getty Images | 3364115 (http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-charles-prince-of-wales-helping-news-photo/3364115)
Now that's candid! :teehee:
There are countless candid photos of the Queen playing with baby Charles...
The Cambridges are the Cambridges, not the Queen. Does it matter if the photo is posed or not? Everyone wanted a new picture of Prince George, and here it is. :shrug:
Cindy
I think it is telling as to how they view their responsibilities and relationship with the British public and how comfortable they feel with the duties of their position, they clearly are quite comfortable with the perks and accolades...
A picture is a picture. Whether posed or 'natural' the people complaining are the people who don't want to see the pictures in the first place. Every time a picture is released the usual suspects wil cry PR
Once again they use everything and anything as a 'criticism' of the Cambridges.
If I had as much money as the Cambridges, I'd make the most of it and enjoy it, too. :D But I'm not sure why they're obligated to give us glimpses of their personal life if they don't wish to just because of who they are. Everybody, including Royals, has a right to keep a certain part of their lives private.
Cindy
We are allowed to discuss the pictures and our opinions thereof without being subject to personal comments on our opinions, whatever they may be in this forum... :flower:
Quote from: cinrit on March 31, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
If I had as much money as the Cambridges, I'd make the most of it and enjoy it, too. :D But I'm not sure why they're obligated to give us glimpses of their personal life if they don't wish to just because of who they are. Everybody, including Royals, has a right to keep a certain part of their lives private.
Cindy
The Cambridges choose to use the money given to them because they are royal heirs, if they decide to quit and live on Diana's inheritance, they don't have to share a thing. It is not bout privacy but about choosing a relationship to have with their subjects, they are choosing to be distant high and mighty, good luck seeing us celebrity, not the hard-working, we appreciate we are your public servants and are grateful for the perks derived from that people...
5 Things You Need To Know About This Photo Of Kate Middleton, Prince William And Prince George
Just How Cute This This Official Photo Of Kate Middleton, Prince William And Prince George... | Marie Claire (http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity/546119/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-this-photo-of-kate-middleton-prince-william-and-prince-george.html#index=1)
Quote from: Limabeany on March 31, 2014, 01:00:21 PM
The Cambridges choose to use the money given to them because they are royal heirs, if they decide to quit and live on Diana's inheritance, they don't have to share a thing. It is not bout privacy but about choosing a relationship to have with their subjects, they are choosing to be distant high and mighty, good luck seeing us celebrity, not the hard-working, we appreciate we are your public servants and are grateful for the perks derived from that people...
The Cambridges do not have subjects yet. And I still don't understand why they're considered distant, high and mighty, because of the picture they chose to release. No matter who they are, no one is obligated to share their private lives with us. We'll just have to agree to disagree. :flower:
Cindy
Quote from: Limabeany on March 31, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: TLLK on March 30, 2014, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Limabeany on March 30, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
I wonder why they released it... :hmm:
Following in his parents' footsteps. Photos of William at around the same age were released prior to the Wales' trip to Australia in 1983. The photos were taken indoors and William is wearing a white romper with blue smocking. :paparazzi:
Makes sense. Although many of Charles and Diana's pics with William as a babe were indoors and/or playing with them, William and Kate's are all posed and are taken from outside or outside as if subliminally sending a message to keep everyone away and outside looking in at them from a distance. They really share nothing spontaneous....
Different parents and different styles of photography.
I was talking about the messages in each picture for the viewer, not so much different parents, as different people...
Quote from: Limabeany on March 31, 2014, 04:35:50 PM
I was talking about the messages in each picture for the viewer, not so much different parents, as different people...
Well I see happy parents and babies in both sets of photos, but if you see something else that's fine too. :truce:
Agree, I like to dig deeper into the messages our actions and our choices send or what they say about us. It's a thing. :happy15:
I think a lot of people make judgments based on photos of people they don't know, but different people see things differently. Sometimes people see what they expect to see. In the end, though, it's not possible to know how someone thinks or lives by one second in their lives via a staged photograph.
Cindy
How did one photo create a three page discussion? :hide:
:goodpost: :D
I still think the Cambridges photos reflect "look at us from over there". :shrug: Perhaps , in the future there will be a balance with candid pictures, perhaps they are incapable of or unwilling to do that, who knows...
I agree with you Lima. William is far too much of a control freak IMO. Having said that, he looked much more relaxed in that photo than Kate did. So, who knows...
Yes, he looked genuinely happy... :)
Prince George is the spitting image of mother Kate Middleton in new royal picture
Prince George is the spitting image of his mum, Kate Middleton - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014033117860/prince-george-spitting-image-of-mother-kate-middleton/)
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Prince George Poses in New Photo: Details on Kate Middleton's Top, Baby George's Sweater
Prince George Photo: Kate Middleton's Top, Baby George's Sweater - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-style/news/prince-george-poses-in-new-photo-details-on-kate-middletons-top-baby-georges-sweater-2014313)
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Throwback! Comparing Prince George to Baby Pics of Kate & Prince William
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20801654,00.html
He is all Middleton I can't see any Will in him no matter how much The Daily Fail says so ...
IMO he has William's lighter hair color. Kate appears to have been darker haired as a baby.
I think he has the Middleton eyes, and Kate's chubby cheeks as a baby. He sure is cute. :wink:
MYROYALS &HOLLYWOOD FASH?ON: New Official Photo of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge with Prince George (http://www.newmyroyals.com/2014/03/new-official-photo-of-duke-and-duchess.html)
QuoteRoyal flashback! Kate Middleton and Prince William's latest family portrait isn't just a window to their lives -- it's also a window to the past.
The photo, which shows the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge posing with their baby son, Prince George, and their beloved dog, Lupo, in a window at their Kensington Palace apartment, echoes past royal portraits of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles taken by royal photographer Lisa Sheridan.
Prince George Window Photo Echoes Royal Portraits of Queen Elizabeth - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-middleton-prince-william-prince-george-window-photo-royal-portraits-pictures-2014313)
El príncipe George posa junto a los Duques de Cambridge en un nuevo retrato oficial (http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_inglesa/2014033070490/retrato-familiar-oficial-cambridge-george-kensington/)
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Wort.lu - William & Kate release new photo with baby Prince George (http://www.wort.lu/en/view/william-kate-release-new-photo-with-baby-prince-george-533811f0e4b029ebcbc13a31)
From the official website of TRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
A photograph of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince George (http://www.dukeandduchessofcambridge.org/news-and-diary/photograph-of-the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-george)
Quote from: Lady Adams on March 31, 2014, 12:46:27 PM
Okay, I looked at the photos Cindy posted. If you haven't peeked at them yet, you've got to see this one:
Queen Elizabeth II And Charles Prince Of Wales Helping? News Photo | Getty Images | 3364115 (http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-charles-prince-of-wales-helping-news-photo/3364115)
Now that's candid! :teehee:
I thought the Queen was tossing a blanket to Charles. Who knew she threw Anne out the window. :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
Did Anne land on her feet or.....? :therethere: :orchid:
QuoteAn online card and gift company have launched a competition to design a first birthday card for Prince George of Cambridge.
Fat-Chilli Cards & Gifts have started the competition which invites UK primary school children to design a card to commemorate the Prince's first birthday on 22 July.
The child can design the card on a theme of their choice, which, if selected, will be sent to Prince George for his birthday. Even if unsuccessful, candidates will be able to order their design on cards or merchandise from the firm.
More: Competition to design a birthday card for Prince George begins | Royal Central (http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/cambridges/competition-to-design-a-birthday-card-for-prince-george-begins-30756)
QuoteFat-Chilli Cards & Gifts have started the competition which invites UK primary school children to design a card to commemorate the Prince's first birthday on 22 July.
Start them while they're young, eh.
Good ol' indoctrination.
Lord, have mercy... :orchid:
QuoteEven if unsuccessful, candidates will be able to order their design on cards or merchandise from the firm.
What the?!
I despair :faint:
Here's a little medicine! :partaay: :happy15:
Now you're talking! :banana: :hug:
If that's 99% proof I'll take a swig too!
I want some of what you had at the weekend...I will settle for nothing less :monkey:.
I thought we should make an informed decision! :bday8:
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Good idea...nice, clear heads :doh: - that's what is needed .... and the loser can still buy merchandise, we are all quids in! :partaay:
Lovely idea, I am sure many children will come up with fantastic ideas.
Only if they are told to sit down and do it.
What child in this day and age would, off their own back, go off and make a card for a baby they have never met?
I don't like the money aspect of it...
Nor do I.
Quote from: Windsor on May 20, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
Lovely idea, I am sure many children will come up with fantastic ideas.
I miss your sensible comments :goodpost:
The parents would likely have to sign a form giving permission for their child's entry to be sent in. If they don't want the card design entered in the contest, then they have control.
What sort of parents would encourage their children to design a Birthday card for a child they never have, nor ever will meet. Cause he is "royal" Very odd..
The contest is being run by an online card company, right? My guess is they're more interested in the publicity this will bring them than they are in indoctrinating young children into becoming monarchists. For example, I'd never heard of Fat Chilli Cards & Gifts, but I decided to check them out:
Cards & Gifts | Fundraising projects for schools, nurseries & charities (http://www.fat-chilli.com/)
Cindy
^^^I agree Cindy. This is pure advertising gold for their online store.
The point remains that parents will be expected/encouraged to get their children involved.
They will be round with their pamphlet (write a card for George, design a dress for Kate....) - encouraging young minds to sign up the the Royal bandwagon.....That I find extremely uncomfortable.
Which as a parent you have every right to exercise your parental control with your children. You can share your reasons why you don't like the event with them. When they have their own families they can make their own rules, but it is your household for now. On the other hand, some people will do it for the chance at a prize or because their child likes the idea of designing a card for George that could be sent on to his family. :)
so? I don't see the harm ... and there is a prize involved .
Quote from: SophieChloe on May 20, 2014, 08:45:45 PM
What child in this day and age would, off their own back, go off and make a card for a baby they have never met?
Children draw many things throughout their time in pre-school - and most have never been to the scenery being painted, or met the people being featured... It is part of a unique creative thinking, children focus very much on Castles/Princesses/Fairy tales, and these themes have a very close link to the Monarchy, given the Monarchy is the source of inspiration.
Most boys want to be a Knight in Shining Armour, while most girls want to be a Princess...
Disney is a prime example of how our creative thinking borrows ideas from the Monarchy to turn it magical land for us all to enjoy.
Disney and monarchical influences are prime examples of how ideological cultural values and precedents are established from an early age. It becomes very hard for adults to then separate the "childhood fantasy" of a princess as a highly estimable figure from the reality of a princess as a political and dynastic issue. I do think there is a deeper social implication in targeting children with monarchical ideologies.
Childhood fantasies are good things, IMO. They foster creativity. Most children grow up and realize that they're never going to be a princess or a knight in shining armor. When I was a child, I thought I would marry Roy Rogers when I grew up. Then I grew up. :hehe:
Cindy
I think this is just a way for this company to raise its profile. I wonder if they're angling for a royal patronage?
As for creating the card, I have no problem with it if it's the kid who comes up with the idea, or if an adult wants to make one on their own time, but if it's a parent who's making their kid do it, then there's a problem, in my book. I would hope that that same parent is having their kid make birthday cards for their actual friends and family members, because if not, then they're basically telling their kid that Prince George is more important, simply because he is a Prince.
Quote from: cinrit on May 21, 2014, 02:13:38 PM
Childhood fantasies are good things, IMO. They foster creativity. Most children grow up and realize that they're never going to be a princess or a knight in shining armor. When I was a child, I thought I would marry Roy Rogers when I grew up. Then I grew up. :hehe:
:happy:
But can you say that some of the ideologies that were perpetuated when you were a child do not affect your thinking today? Many adults hold onto romantic, covetable notions of a knight or a prince...
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My argument is that we are conditioned from an early age about what is and is not socially and culturally admirable. What we are taught, or crucially, what we are encouraged to embrace and play with as a child, establishes a set of values and hierarchies that stay with us into adulthood. Naturally, we develop our own opinions and sets of ideals as we age and experience the world, but we maintain, consciously or subconsciously, a certain fabric of conditioned thinking.
If children are being asked to design a card for "Prince George" they are being introduced to the idea that this child is distinct and important by virtue of his birthday being isolated for a competition. An echo of Lothwen's thoughts.
Of course, it can be argued that people like me are taking this waaaay to seriously - it's just a bit of fun and a way for a greetings business to promote itself - but everything has a deeper implication. The surface consequence of something isn't necessarily the only consequence.
Why does it matter so very much if an adult holds onto ideological notions of princesses and knights? It's no different than the adults who dress up as characters from Star Trek and or Star Wars or which ever story they're fascinated with. It's a hobby, nothing more. I doubt it affects the everyday lives of the vast majority of adults. It's all just fantasy that feeds the creative process. There's no harm to it, as far as I can see.
Cindy
I believe it matters when the lines between fantasy and political and dynastic ideology are blurred. The two aren't easily separated.
Quote from: Orchid on May 21, 2014, 02:09:44 PM
Disney and monarchical influences are prime examples of how ideological cultural values and precedents are established from an early age. It becomes very hard for adults to then separate the "childhood fantasy" of a princess as a highly estimable figure from the reality of a princess as a political and dynastic issue. I do think there is a deeper social implication in targeting children with monarchical ideologies.
You do realise Disney is American - a country known the world over for its Anti-Monarchical values, and for its championing of freedom and democracy in the form of a Federal Republic, right? :teehee: :hug:
What does Disney stand to gain from promoting Monarchy in their magical world?
^I wouldn't say that Disney promotes "Monarchy" as much as they do "Princess", which is the fantasy they sell to little girls, who then beg and plead their parents to buy them the Disney products.
And there is nothing wrong with fantasies, which as Cindy says, help fuel creativity, but I do think there is something wrong with being told that somebody is better than you or I simply because of who they were born to.
I wouldn't necessarily describe Prince George as better than anyone else. We are all the same when it comes down to it. What changes is our circumstances. Society in general has created division through social class, race, culture, religion, etc, etc... People identify being a Prince as something special and unique, not necessarily important and/or better or superior which is why these kids will be asked to draw a birthday card, as it is something special! :shrug:
And why is a Prince considered special and unique? Because we pass these distinguishing values down through unquestioned tradition and the culture of consumerism.
Quote from: Windsor on May 21, 2014, 03:17:33 PM
You do realise Disney is American - a country known the world over for its Anti-Monarchical values, and for its championing of freedom and democracy in the form of a Federal Republic, right? :teehee: :hug: What does Disney stand to gain from promoting Monarchy in their magical world?
When speaking of Disney I was referring specifically to the theme of princesses and princes. When speaking of "monarchical influences" I was referring to Prince George in schools and the comments importing knights. Probably should have made that clearer. :happy: :hug:
I would suggest that America's political history and cultural ideologies matter very little to the corporate world of Disney. Profit is key. And what Disney are promoting is a European fantasy - paragons of beauty and social status - which, through tradition and commercialism, has become an accepted and alluring norm for children and parents alike. What is never represented in these plastic Disney fantasies and the "fun" competition for designing a card for Prince George are the political and dynastic implications of these symbols of monarchy. Children simply aren't encouraged to question or understand the real-world make-up of these symbols, they are simply encouraged to embrace them for their surface values. That's what I don't like.
Quote from: Windsor on May 21, 2014, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: SophieChloe on May 20, 2014, 08:45:45 PM
What child in this day and age would, off their own back, go off and make a card for a baby they have never met?
Children draw many things throughout their time in pre-school - and most have never been to the scenery being painted, or met the people being featured... It is part of a unique creative thinking, children focus very much on Castles/Princesses/Fairy tales, and these themes have a very close link to the Monarchy, given the Monarchy is the source of inspiration.
Most boys want to be a Knight in Shining Armour, while most girls want to be a Princess...
Disney is a prime example of how our creative thinking borrows ideas from the Monarchy to turn it magical land for us all to enjoy.
I have three children and have spent many, many hours at pre-school with them all. And hand on heart none of mine have drawn a picture for, or of any member of the RF. Why would they, unless prompted.
Awwwww! :hug:
QuoteThe Royal Mint are set to release a new commemorative £5 coin to celebrate Prince George's 1st birthday next month, a proclamation published by the Privy Council shows.
The proclamation, setting out the specification for the coin, was made in a meeting of the Privy Council where it was given The Queen's approval yesterday evening.
Her Majesty has given the order for the silver coin to be produced and it will be the latest of many royal commemorative imagecoins. The coin will be in legal tender in the United Kingdom and can be used on its face value, though the coins typically sell for more than their face value.
More: The Queen orders new £5 coin to commemorate Prince George?s 1st birthday | Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/other/georgecoin-32712)
Do people collect the commemorative coins?
From what I gather, it is legal tender. Legit money in The UK.
All I can is wow!! Just unbelievable.
Quote from: FanDianaFancy on June 16, 2014, 06:09:15 AM
From what I gather, it is legal tender. Legit money in The UK.
All I can is wow!! Just unbelievable.
Is that a note of wonder in your comment, FanDianaFancy, or incredulity!
Quote from: ohsillyme on June 15, 2014, 10:11:10 PM
Do people collect the commemorative coins?
Definitely. The coins minted for Prince George's birth sold out in pre-order.
QuotePrince George of Cambridge's first birthday is to be marked with a commemorative £5 coin.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's young son is the first member of the royal family to have his first birthday honoured with a new UK coin.
William and Kate, along with George's great-grandmother the Queen and Chancellor George Osborne approved the design of the sterling silver piece, which bears the heraldic royal arms and the year 2014.
More: Prince George's first birthday commemorated with £5 Royal Mint coin | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658916/Happy-birthday-George-Royal-Mint-releases-commemorative-5-coin-celebrate-little-princes-big-day.html)
Curry, it is the grandness of this child, the whole monarchy, nobility, aristos, gentry,etc.
His birth as third in line....could his face be put on money when he is 65 yrs.old?
It is interesting.
Is she paying for it? Wouldn't we all like a coin for our children? Shall I contact the Royal Mint direct? Or contact my MP. Surely the same channels HM went through?
It's naive to think all children are created equal. They are not. Obama's daughter got a job as a production assistant for a big deal Hollywood movie. Mike the plumber isn't going to be able to get his daughter this job. Who would want a picture of a commoner's child? No one.
Prince George coins for first birthday - hellomagazine.com (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014061619400/prince-george-first-birthday-coins/)
QuotePrince George's Birthday Marked by Commemorative Coin
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's son is the first member of the UK Royal family to have his first birthday marked by a new coin. The third in line to the throne and future king turns one on 22 July.
The design of the sterling silver piece was approved by his parents; his great-grandmother the Queen; and Chancellor George Osborne. It bears the heraldic royal arms and the year 2014.
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The coins will be a limited mintage of 7,500 and will cost £80 each from the Royal Mint.
More: BBC News - Prince George's birthday marked by commemorative coin (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27868094)
Cindy
QuoteThe Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's son is the first member of the UK Royal family to have his first birthday marked by a new coin
Cool beans :)
Prince George de Cambridge : Une nouvelle pièce pour sa tirelire ! (http://www.purepeople.com/article/prince-george-de-cambridge-une-nouvelle-piece-pour-sa-tirelire_a143216/1)
Prince George gets a silver coin for his first birthday | Royalista (http://royalista.com/14707/prince-george-gets-a-silver-coin-for-his-first-birthday/)
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But we just got several pictures of him at the polo game, like this one:
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To cheer everyone up: Prince George on the cover of this week's @HelloCanada
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The Prince George photo album (78 pictures)
Royal Baby Celebrations ? Prince of Cambridge Birth (Vogue.com UK) (http://www.vogue.co.uk/spy/celebrity-photos/2013/7/23/royal-baby-celebrations/gallery/1189345)
Best Pictures of Prince George | POPSUGAR Celebrity (http://www.popsugar.com/Best-Pictures-Prince-George-35060543?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+popsugar+%28PopSugar%29#opening-slide)
Prince George's Baby Album: Kate Middleton and Prince William's Firstborn Son - Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/pictures/kate-middleton-and-prince-william-meet-the-royal-baby-2013237/31751?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Scroll through to see George's best facial expressions as we prepare to celebrate his first birthday on July 22!
Prince George's Best Facial Expressions | POPSUGAR Celebrity (http://www.popsugar.com/Prince-George-Best-Facial-Expressions-34636947#photo-5)
Photo gallery of Prince George's cutest faces - hellomagazine.com (http://www1.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014071819991/prince-george-cutest-faces/)
Prince George in pictures | Galleries | Pictures | The best pictures from around the world | Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/galleries/2092/Prince-George-in-pictures)
Prince George's first year photo album - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-george/10980615/Prince-Georges-first-year-photo-album.html)
The new photos of George are adorable. I love how he seemed to be so interested in the butterflies. He reminds me a lot of Kate as a child - I used to think he looked more like William and Charles as a baby, but now I disagree.
The 45 Greatest Prince George Pictures Of All Time (http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/the-greatest-prince-george-pictures-of-all-time)
^^^There's already that many??? LOL
QuoteThe Royal Canadian Mint is wishing Prince George a happy first birthday with the release of gold and silver coins that show four generations of the monarchy.
On the coins, which were unveiled Tuesday, George can be seen in his father Prince William's arms next to grandfather Prince Charles and great-grandmother Queen Elizabeth II.
More: Prince George's Birthday Marked With New Canadian Coins (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/07/22/prince-george-birthday-canadian-coin_n_5611689.html?1406078137&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067)
Quote(Seychelles News Agency) - Two new commemorative coins, 'The Royal Baby Commemorative coins' are available in Seychelles as of today one year after the birth of the young prince, the Seychelles Central Bank (CBS) has said.
In an interview with SNA, the Currency and Numismatics Officer at CBS, Jude Adolphe, said the coins were released internationally to commemorate the birth of Prince George of Cambridge last year and is now being made available in Seychelles in commemoration of the Prince's first birthday.
More: Baby Prince George 1st birthday commemorative coins go on sale in Seychelles - Seychelles News Agency (http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/1050/Baby+Prince+George+st+birthday+commemorative+coins+goes+on+sale+in+Seychelles)
Prince George walking with his nanny! - All Things Catherine and Mary (http://allthingscatherineandmary.tumblr.com/post/96040132235/prince-george-walking-with-his-nanny)
New George pics with his nanny Maria .
Prince George @PrinceGeorgePal
Prince George and Nanny Maria playing football at Battersea Park, August 2014 Prince George on Twitter: Prince George and Nanny Maria playing football at Battersea Park, August 2014. http://t.co/KSO9QiIsmy (https://twitter.com/PrinceGeorgePal/status/506694554402045952/photo/1)
I really don't like the idea that paps are stalking a one year old >(
Having said that..awwwww....what a cutie. That is such a fun age when they are discovering their ability to really move and balance. He looks like a future footballer or maybe a rugby player.
Quote from: Macrobug on September 02, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
I really don't like the idea that paps are stalking a one year old >(
Having said that..awwwww....what a cutie. That is such a fun age when they are discovering their ability to really move and balance. He looks like a future footballer or maybe a rugby player.
I agree. IMHO this is why so many royal families are very guarded when it comes to their children being photographed. Princess Caroline sued when her daughter Princess Alexandra of Hanover was being photographed in a similar fashion. The Dutch royals launched their Media Code when Amalia was very young.
As for George and Maria they look like they're enjoying their time in the park.
He's more Gorgeous than ever! Prince George proudly poses in his soldier jumper for adorable Christmas portrait | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2872867/He-s-Gorgeous-Prince-George-proudly-poses-soldier-jumper-adorable-Christmas-portrait.html)
He is such a cute pie!!
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My uncle and auntie bump into prince William, Kate & George in a play centre so my cousins ended up playing with George" "And my auntie building a sandcastle with Kate Middleton..."Jane Barr@HRHKateBlog "
Several sources reporting that the Cambridges were at a play centre building sandcastles to celebrate #MothersDay. h/t @livelovelaughvrDuchess Kate Blog
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It looks like William, Kate and George enjoyed the weekend at Bucklebury (with thanks to @livelovelaughvr)"
Mother's Day in Buckleberry. :flower:
Oh I forgot that today was Mother's Day in the UK. Happy Mother's day to our UK mums!!!!
From huffingpost.com (http://www.huffingpost.com) July 27, 2013
There has been much discussion as to what little Prince George's last name is or will be. Some say "Windsor." Some say "Mountbatten-Windsor."
What is Prince George's correct surname?
Quote from: LouisFerdinand on September 03, 2015, 12:14:40 AM
From huffingpost.com (http://www.huffingpost.com) July 27, 2013
There has been much discussion as to what little Prince George's last name is or will be. Some say "Windsor." Some say "Mountbatten-Windsor."
What is Prince George's correct surname?
^^ Both or either seems to be the answer! Charles, Camilla, Anne, Andrew have used Mountbatten-Windsor on occasions but not consistently. Windsor, and Wales (for William and Harry) have also been used.
William was referred to in court documents in France (over the nudie photos fuss) as William Mountbatten-Windsor. As the French officials probably followed the form of his signature on various documents I guess that George is a Mountbatten Windsor like his dad. However, by the time George is old enough to take notice William may well be Prince of Wales, and so, like Harry, George will be prince George of Wales instead of George of Cambridge as he is at the moment.
That would be very interesting to see how the BRF is registered on passports and on international vital records.
You must know that in France, one has a given surname which never changes (except in rare justice decisions). When a woman marries, she acquires her husband's surname, but she does not lose her maiden name. Her husband's surname is considered as a nom d'usage ('used name') and is one extra line on her ID line. That means the woman can use her maiden surname or her husband's surname in all official documents as she chooses.
For instance, on Carla Bruni's ID card, there would be a line : 'Name : Bruni' and then another line : 'Used name : Sarkozy'.
But the noms d'usage are not only used by women. Celebrities can choose to write their pseudonyms on their ID cards, etc.
So I suspect that for on French vital records, the BRF's surname which never changes is 'Mountbatten-Windsor' and all the titles (Wales, Cambridge, York, Edinburgh, Wessex, etc.) - which can change according to life's circumstances - are considered as noms d'usage.
Now, what you must know is that the French administration (vital records, justice decision, etc.) likes to work with native surnames. This is why we saw William qualified as 'Mountbatten-Windsor' and Kate as 'Middleton' on their paper !
But I think officially their 'surname' in the UK is '(of) Cambridge'. One day, when the Cambridges' children will marry, they will get their own dukedoms which will be their new surname.
^ A lot of people online were speculating about why Kate was still a Middleton in one line of the French court papers and here we have the explanation. Thankyou Liquorice!
French name - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_name)
for more information about that.
englishmonarchs.co.uk/Windsor_28.htm expressed Viscount Severn's name was announced four days after he was born: James Alexander Philip Theo Mountbatten-Windsor, although he will use only the Windsor surname.
Fascinating info about the French,
@Liquorice !! Thanks for sharing 😊😎
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617435
I was doing research on daffodils and found that a new daffodil was named after Prince George. It is a special joy to have one's own daffodil.
Quote from: Liquorice on September 03, 2015, 08:57:34 AM
That would be very interesting to see how the BRF is registered on passports and on international vital records.
You must know that in France, one has a given surname which never changes (except in rare justice decisions). When a woman marries, she acquires her husband's surname, but she does not lose her maiden name. Her husband's surname is considered as a nom d'usage ('used name') and is one extra line on her ID line. That means the woman can use her maiden surname or her husband's surname in all official documents as she chooses.
For instance, on Carla Bruni's ID card, there would be a line : 'Name : Bruni' and then another line : 'Used name : Sarkozy'.
But the noms d'usage are not only used by women. Celebrities can choose to write their pseudonyms on their ID cards, etc.
So I suspect that for on French vital records, the BRF's surname which never changes is 'Mountbatten-Windsor' and all the titles (Wales, Cambridge, York, Edinburgh, Wessex, etc.) - which can change according to life's circumstances - are considered as noms d'usage.
Now, what you must know is that the French administration (vital records, justice decision, etc.) likes to work with native surnames. This is why we saw William qualified as 'Mountbatten-Windsor' and Kate as 'Middleton' on their paper !
But I think officially their 'surname' in the UK is '(of) Cambridge'. One day, when the Cambridges' children will marry, they will get their own dukedoms which will be their new surname.
This sounds like it is very similar to the Spanish customs in which a woman does not drop her family name but adds her husbands' to hers and their children's names reflect this ie: Felipe de Borbon y Grecia.
^ Grecia is a very graceful allusion to Queen Sofia. Like the Danes the Greek royals came from the Sonderburg Glucksborg line and you really wouldn't want that clonking along as part of your name!
^^^Imagine trying to fill in the bubbles for Sonderburg-Glucksborg on a test form with your number two pencil. :hehe:
The name change to Mountbatten-Windsor was brought about via Royal Proclamation.
Is it correct that a Royal Proclamation does not carry statutory authority?
I don't think it would be a question of statutory law, merely custom and styling. The Proclomation was probably made in the Privy Council.
Philip apparently wasn't keen on the Mountbatten bit. He wanted his children called 'of Edinburgh' but Churchill knocked it back. That was at the beginning of Elizabeth's reign of course.
Queen Mary, who died shortly after Elizabeth became Queen, didn't like the thought that Philip might possibly mess with the name of the Royal House of Windsor, which had been her husband King George's decision to adopt in World War One. Apparently she muttered 'What the devil does that damned fool Edinburgh think that the family name has to do with him?'
What??? Phillip didn't want to keep the name of his Danish ancestors to pass on? :P Wonder what Queen Mary would have thought if he'd tried that one.
I like this because there are four generations of the Royal Family:
Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince George.
Prince George Makes His First Appearance On The Royal Balcony!(HQ Full Video) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIFVmkd6sM)
Kate spent her weekend at the Houghton International Horse Trials with kids
What Would Kate Do on Twitter: "New Pictures have emerged of #PrinceGeorge and Kate over the weekend at Houghton? https://t.co/sG5AN0SPr8 #Instagram (https://twitter.com/WWKD_Official/status/737509300365463552)
Kate Takes George & Charlotte to Houghton Horse Trials (http://fromberkshiretobuckingham.blogspot.cz/2016/05/kate-takes-prince-george-to-houghton.html)
Prince George is growing into a beautiful boy. Let's hope his hair continues to stay full. :)
QuoteNew pictures of Prince George released for his 3rd birthday
Today, Prince George turns 3-years-old. The future king was born on 22 July 2013 to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.
After ten and a half hours later, the Duchess of Cambridge gave birth to her first child, a son, at 4:24pm BST. He weighed 8lbs and 6oz, the heaviest royal baby in 100 years. As with all royal births, an official notification of the birth was placed on an easel at Buckingham Palace. People from all over queued to see the announcement at the Buckingham Palace gate. The next day, the new prince was presented to the awaiting crowd and media by his proud parents. Prince William joked to the media, "He's got more hair than me, thank God."
Read more:
New pictures of Prince George released for his 3rd birthday – Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/new-pictures-of-prince-george-released-for-his-3rd-birthday-62571)
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QuoteHappy 3rd birthday Prince George! New portraits released of His Royal Cuteness
Kensington Palace has released four new portraits of Prince George in celebration of the little boy's third birthday. The future king is pictured in the grounds of his home Anmer Hall, in Norfolk, where he lives with his parents Prince William and Kate and his younger sister Princess Charlotte.
George looks adorable in the new images. One sweet snapshot shows the little Prince barefoot and standing up on a large wooden swing, which has been etched with the names of his parents. Another sees him off on an outdoor adventure and looking very grown up as he walks through the family garden, dressed in a stripey jumper with a whale embroidered on the front.
Read more translated:
Prince George's new portraits released for his 3rd birthday (http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2016072232193/prince-george-new-birthday-portraits-released/)
Does Prince George get more attention than Princes Charlotte?
How cute is the Prince?
Prince George of Cambridge's cutest photos - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2UUw9d6lK0)
If Prince George has to record his middle initial, does he use A for Alexander or L for Louis? I know he has more than one one middle name. However he would not use all his initials.
I wouldn't know. I've never ever seen a Royal signature that listed all that individual's names, even in initials. Even Edward, in one of the most important documents of the 20th century, the Abdication document, didn't do so. Usually they just scrawl, 'William', 'Harry', 'Charles' and so forth, and sometimes their dukedoms. I can't imagine any occasion on which George would have to use his middle initials. After all, he is distinguishable from any other George in various ways!
I agree with
@Curryong. The only times we ever see their full names would be on legal documents ie: marriage license/registry or birth certificates.
well since he's about 3 I don't see that he's likely to be writing his name yet and he's not going to sign with initials
Does Prince George have his initials monogramed on any of his clothes?
Prince Philip is a member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg. When Philip became engaged to Princess Elizabeth, it had been suggested that he use the surname of Oldcastle.
Prince George loves to help delivery drivers carrying groceries into Anmer ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/prince-george-loves-to-help-deliver-drivers-carrying-groceries-into-amner-123263)
QuoteAccording to an exclusive to the Sun, a source explained, ?It is rare for anyone to ever offers to carry deliveries inside.
?So the Waitrose delivery staff were surprised and delighted to be greeted regularly by Prince William and Prince George.
?George is always particularly helpful and is the one who asks each time what he can carry for them. He is a very inquisitive child.
?They give him lighter bags. It shows how down-to-earth William is and that he wants his son to grow up being polite and helpful to others.?
Kensington Palace has not commented on the story.
:thumbsup: While I have never used an online grocery delivery, I do remember how excited my children would be when the trash collectors, mail carrier and other familiar faces would show up on a daily and weekly basis. My kids would run to greet them or wave at them when they'd arrive.
I wonder if this is only when they are in Norfolk.
Very likely only Norfolk and Middleton Manon. The school heavily promotes on being kind and helpful.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/12/12/3D1EE82200000578-4216640-image-a-97_1486900909374.jpg
PG would need to walk quite the distance; delivery goods are received at the first gate, with internal employees going the further distance to second and third gate to finally reach the palace structure. It has been known that Catherine does request online goods to KP too.
At this age anyway, they really are like other children. They enjoy the same things. I think it is so sweet. I loved playing "grocery store" when I was little. I grew up to work in a real grocery store and it was not quite as much fun.
Quote from: TLLK on June 03, 2019, 01:00:13 PM
Prince George loves to help delivery drivers carrying groceries into Anmer ? Royal Central (http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridges/prince-george-loves-to-help-deliver-drivers-carrying-groceries-into-amner-123263)
:thumbsup: While I have never used an online grocery delivery, I do remember how excited my children would be when the trash collectors, mail carrier and other familiar faces would show up on a daily and weekly basis. My kids would run to greet them or wave at them when they'd arrive.
Online grocery shopping was a godsend in my mother's last illness. She panicked if I was 15 minutes late from work so it made shopping difficult so getting the stuff delivered made it so much easier.
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Lara Spencer apologizes for comments on Prince George's ...
Lara Spencer apologizes for comments on Prince George's ballet lessons - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/entertainment/lara-spencer-prince-george-ballet-trnd/)...
23/8/2019 ? "GMA" host Lara Spencer aplogized after mocking Prince George's love of ballet lessons.
Lara Spencer Apologizes After Mocking Prince George Taking ...
Lara Spencer Apologizes After Mocking Prince George Taking Ballet | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/tv/lara-spencer-apologizes-mocking-prince-george-ballet)
1 day ago ? Lara Spencer was slammed on Twitter users who felt she was "bullying" Prince George
Lara Spencer Apologizes for Mocking Prince George's Love ...
Music News - lara-spencer-apologizes-for - Music - msn (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/lara-spencer-apologizes-for)...
Prince George is back in school and during a segment on Thursday's Good Morning America, anchor Lara Spencer detailed the royal's new curriculum. "Young Prince George ...
Well if she didn't apologize, ABC bosses were to fire her. So perhaps it was out of obligation rather than sincere.
Dancing classes are good for small children. They enjoy it.
Quote from: wannable on August 24, 2019, 10:24:56 PM
Well if she didn't apologize, ABC bosses were to fire her. So perhaps it was out of obligation rather than sincere.
No apology will make it possible to take back what she said. It was reflective of her ignorant thoughts.
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Quote from: sandy on August 24, 2019, 10:34:14 PM
Dancing classes are good for small children. They enjoy it.
You are so right, Sandy. And also, it is a very athletic form of dance. Many elite athletes take ballet to improve their performance, including football players.
Today she apologized live on air Good Morning America, and yet the majority of the tuned in audience want's ABC to fire her.
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Lara Spencer interviews male dancers including Cats cast member who then lead ballet class outside Good Morning America studio, as presenter apologizes on air for her 'insensitive, stupid' comments about Prince George
TV host admitted she 'screwed up', calling her reaction 'insensitive' and 'stupid'
Spencer then tried to make further amends by interviewing three male dancers
They then held a ballet class outside the GMA studio on Monday morning
Dancers told Spencer they 'wish people would be open-minded and understand'
One said kids 'should be entitled to experience things without being bullied'
Lara called the experience 'a true education' before apologizing to them directly
The dancers accepted her apology but for many viewers it was not enough
Lara had laughed and stifled giggles while talking about George's dance classes
Quote from: wannable on August 26, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
Today she apologized live on air Good Morning America, and yet the majority of the tuned in audience want's ABC to fire her.
The American media have targeted anyone saying anything that sounds slightly un-politically correct sexist, racist, biased, bigoted, or otherwise evil. Now that someone in the media has said something that is overtly sexist, I think they have to take the consequences. Otherwise you can add hypocrite to her faux pas.
Quite, I've seen official twitter accounts from all sorts of people 'backing' organizations, including Bullying, with thousands of likes and comments.
I think it's quite enough that she has apologized and done whatever it takes to retain her job. IF fired, that spells a doom forever in her resume/CV. History says, they never recover, or find a equal 'opportunity' job.
I don't think she should lose her job - that would be the easy way out for the network. There were other network staffers giggling in the background, so it is a network issue and not just her. I wish they would do a series of special segments about the role of male dancers, especially the great ones (premier danseurs). If they showed a couple of short videos with some of the great ones it would highlight how athletic they are. But even so, if a boy wants to dance nobody should laugh about it anyway. If some of them are gay, as male figure skaters sometimes are, aren't we supposed to be accepting of them? The network is being hypocritical if they do not address the fact that they all thought it was funny. Simply firing Lara Spencer is just a copout in my opinion.
Prince George mixes it with the Queen | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7817435/Prince-George-mixes-Queen.html)
How cute he is with his dad,grandfather and great-grandmother the Queen Elizabeth II
The Queen shares new Christmas photos with three generations of royals - see here | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2019122182319/queen-makes-christmas-puddings-prince-george-prince-william-new-christmas-photos/)
Queen Elizabeth and Her 3 Heirs Prepare Christmas Pudding | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/queen-elizabeth-prince-charles-prince-william-prince-george-prepare-christmas-pudding/)
Royal Family Christmas pudding photos: Five things to spot - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50879901)
Royals carry on the Christmas pudding tradition in aid of lonely veterans (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/21/royals-carry-christmas-pudding-tradition-aid-lonely-veterans/)
Four generations of the Royal Family bake puddings for Christmas | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/four-generations-of-the-royal-family-bake-puddings-for-christmas-11892823)
Queen news: Queen, Charles and William crack up as George makes Christmas treats | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1219958/queen-news-pictures-prince-george-prince-william-prince-charles-christmas-news-pic-release)
Queen, Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince George bake festive treats - ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-21/queen-joins-future-generations-and-bakes-festive-treats-at-buckingham-palace/)
It was one thing to have the "generation" stamp. But this was supposed to be a fun event. The two other little ones should have been in the photo. Pictures for instance of Charles with Charlotte are few and far between.
It is a posed photo and they don't bake, but all three of the children should have been there, at least Charlotte too.
George's first duty with the Queen, this is a lovely picture and a great cause. :xmas21:
Here is the British Legion's reasoning behind the four generations photo. :xmas17:
QuoteBuckingham Palace has released new photos of the Queen and her family together at Christmas. The gorgeous images show the 93-year-old monarch and her great-grandchild Prince George making Christmas puddings as part of the launch of The Royal British Legion?s ?Together at Christmas? initiative. The initiative is designed to provide extra support to the Armed Forces and veteran communities at annual festive ?get togethers? across the charity?s network of outreach centres.
The photos were taken in the Music Room at Buckingham Palace by Getty photographer Chris Jackson during the Queen's Christmas lunch on Wednesday. Prince Charles, the Duke of Cambridge, and his eldest son Prince George, six, are included in the snaps alongside her Majesty. The four generations of the Royal Family represent a cross-section of those supported by the Legion, from the children of service personnel to Second World War veterans.
So everyone who was participating in the photos were there for more than just a fun event, therefore it was limited to the four generations of monarch and her three direct heirs. :happy:
The Queen and Prince George Did Some Christmas Baking This Week | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/12/the-queen-prince-george-prince-william-prince-charles-pudding)
QuoteA spokesman for the Royal British Legion said the initiative has been launched ?to combat the loneliness and isolation experienced by some members of the Armed Forces community at what can be a difficult time of year. The get-togethers will provide an opportunity for all ages of the Armed Forces community to come together and enjoy the Christmas puddings.?
The Christmas pudding making session, which is understood to have taken place earlier this week before the Queen hosted her Christmas party at the palace, was led by one of The Royal British Legion?s care home chefs and Army Catering Corps veteran, Alex Cavaliere, and attended by four veterans?Colin Hughes, Liam Young, Lisa Evans, and Barbara Hurman. A new Royal British Legion recipe was created for the launch, with the Royal Family uniquely adding poppy seeds to the mixture, in a nod to the charity?s iconic symbol of Remembrance.
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The family stirred four puddings together which will be served next year. The special puddings will form part of the 99 puddings distributed across the Legion?s network in time for the Christmas 2020 events, marking the charity?s 99th year.
The Queen, as the Head of the Armed Forces, is committed to supporting past and present servicemen and women and she has a long history with the Royal British Legion. Her Majesty has been the organization?s patron since 1952 and has undertaken more than 60 engagements with the charity in the past 30 years . Originally the British Legion since it was founded in 1921, it became The Royal British Legion in 1971 on its Golden Anniversary.
George is only 6, this is not a "duty" but a photo op. I think it a bit much to get "dynastic" at a Christmas lunch. I never saw anything like that before. The Queen should have posed with her grandchildren in attendance. It would have been sweet. Charles also has never been seen in a photo just with his only granddaughter.
The Queen is the Patron of the Royal British Legion, this will pass to Charles, William and George.
@sandy The Queen launched this new annual event.
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@PoppyLegion
We're excited to announce our new annual events ?Together at Christmas? providing support to the Armed Forces. This week 4 generations of @royalfamily prepared Christmas puddings to be shared at our get togethers in 2020.
Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
George is only 6, this is not a "duty" but a photo op. I think it a bit much to get "dynastic" at a Christmas lunch. I never saw anything like that before. The Queen should have posed with her grandchildren in attendance. It would have been sweet. Charles also has never been seen in a photo just with his only granddaughter.
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Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
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But it is a duty, publicsing the sale of Christmas puddings for charity...
And those 4 Christmas puddings
WILL be sold within the 99 Christmas puddings for Charity.
Because the Queen, Charles, William and George placed in The 4 Christmas ''ROYAL'' puddings
sixpences mixed.
The launch of this new annual event comes with a royal good luck prize for the Christmas pudding purchasers.
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In 2016, the Royal Mint began minting legal tender decimal sixpence coins in silver, intended to be bought as Christmas presents. These coins are heavier than the pre-1970 sixpences (3.35 grams instead of 2.83 grams), and have a denomination of six new pence instead of six old pence. The new reverse was designed by John Bergdahl.
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As the supply of silver threepence coins slowly disappeared, Royal Mint sixpences replaced them as the coins traditionally put into Christmas puddings. From the Victorian era onwards, it became tradition to mix a threepence or sixpence into the ingredients when preparing a Christmas pudding, as the coin was believed to grant good luck. Prepared on Stir-up Sunday, the last Sunday before the start of Advent, the coin would be placed into the mixture, then the mixture was stirred by every member of the family. When it came to eating the pudding on Christmas day, whoever found the sixpence in their slice would receive good luck in the year to come
so it says In the papers....
Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
George is only 6, this is not a "duty" but a photo op. I think it a bit much to get "dynastic" at a Christmas lunch. I never saw anything like that before. The Queen should have posed with her grandchildren in attendance. It would have been sweet. Charles also has never been seen in a photo just with his only granddaughter.
@sandy-The decision to have the photo featuring the Queen (British Legion patron), the PoW, Duke of Cambridge and Prince George was to inaugurate the British Legion's new campaign to focus on the services that they offer to British Veterans. Their clients include WWII veterans (QEII), veterans from other decades (PoW and Prince William) to the children of veterans (Prince George).
This was the request of the British Legion and their patron and her son, grandson, and great-grandson who are future patrons are all featured.
but he is the heir. He is starting to learn a little bit about what his dutie will be when he is older...
He is a child. And it will be a long long time before he gets near the throne. Plus he needs to go to school, go to Sandhurst perhaps.
He should be with other children and have a wonderful childhood and not treated more "special" than his siblings. HE is only 6 years old. He needs time to have fun. HE is now heir to heir to heir. and a kid.
Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 02:51:03 PM
George is only 6. Better to have this at something outside the holiday luncheon, as I see it. George needs to be a child and enjoy his childhood not be trotted out as "the heir."
The Cambridges let it slip they have some "announcements." Is she pregnant again?
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I think Charles had a hand in it.
Considering that HM the Queen is the British Legion's royal patron, I doubt that he had anything to do with it other than agreeing to participate and showing up. :shrug: The British Legion would have first discussed the idea with their patron, not the PoW or William.
Quote from: TLLK on December 22, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
@sandy-The decision to have the photo featuring the Queen (British Legion patron), the PoW, Duke of Cambridge and Prince George was to inaugurate the British Legion's new campaign to focus on the services that they offer to British Veterans. Their clients include WWII veterans (QEII), veterans from other decades (PoW and Prince William) to the children of veterans (Prince George).
This was the request of the British Legion and their patron and her son, grandson, and great-grandson who are future patrons are all featured.
I like the pictures. And yes that makes perfect sense the current monarch and the future monarchs being photographed together.
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Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
George should be a child and have fun. Most of the time. HE will be opening those presents at Christmas morning and having a great time.
for goodness sake this kid is barely seen... and led a more private life than the queen, charles and william ever had in their childhoods
Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
I am not sure I would all it royal duty. They should be all learning and having fun too.
Which we know that his parents are providing to him and his siblings with school, sports, dance, playdates, cooking, birthday parties and more. As
@dianab pointed out, other members of the BRF had greater press coverage band attendance at Royal events than George has had in six years.
Quote from: TLLK on December 22, 2019, 05:03:10 PM
Which we know that his parents are providing to him and his siblings with school, sports, dance, playdates, cooking, birthday parties and more. As @dianab pointed out, other members of the BRF had greater press coverage band attendance at Royal events than George has had in six years.
Trure I've seen loads of complaints that Will and Kate kept their children too much "private"..and that they should be letting them be seen by the public and photographed. And now George does his first real "photograph for a charity"!
:xmas1: Some of the British Media knew from their BP sources this event would take place 1 hour previous to the Queen's Christmas lunch, hence mute in SM why aren't you writing about the separate cars. Others, like Cosmopolitan and other USA based didn't and wrote an entire article about a Bruhaha of William and George riding in a separate car from that of Kate, Charlotte and Louis, divorce imminent. Deleted tweets from some of the usual Cambridge dislike people.
Lovely to see the four generations together for such a worthy cause as the British Royal Legion. It also highlights the main line and the continuity of the monarchy.
Quote from: wannable on December 22, 2019, 05:34:18 PM
:xmas1: Some of the British Media knew from their BP sources this event would take place 1 hour previous to the Queen's Christmas lunch, hence mute in SM why aren't you writing about the separate cars. Others, like Cosmopolitan and other USA based didn't and wrote an entire article about a Bruhaha of William and George riding in a separate car from that of Kate, Charlotte and Louis, divorce imminent. Deleted tweets from some of the usual Cambridge dislike people.
Well it would make sense that the British Legion engagement would happen before the luncheon. Those from the BL would be able to depart afterwards and then the Queen, Charles, William and George would be able to meet up with the family afterwards. :nod:
The Queen & her heirs ? Buckingham Palace release new pictures ahead of Christmas ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/breaking-the-queen-her-heirs-buckingham-palace-release-new-pictures-ahead-of-christmas-135018/)
Prince George bakes Christmas puddings with the Queen in special royal family photo - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/four-generations-royals-including-prince-21142611)
Quote from: sandy on December 22, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
George should be a child and have fun. Most of the time. HE will be opening those presents at Christmas morning and having a great time.
Yes, I'm sure he will enjoy Christmas as we hope all children can do. I also think of how the Cambridge couple work to provide as normal a childhood as they can for their children, despite their royal status. But the Duke knows more than most that as they grow the reality of their future, at least George's, must be addressed. From what I have observed they are doing it well - moments like this are rare, because he is a child and is being allowed to have his childhood.
They can have a more "grounded" holiday at the MIddletons.
Quote from: sandy on December 23, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
They can have a more "grounded" holiday at the MIddletons.
but there has been endless cirtiicsm of the fact that Kate and Will spend a lot of time with the Middletons...
I believe that the Middletons now stay with the Cambridges at Amner Hall over the Christmas holidays and that way they're celebrating with both families. This way the children can enjoy the best of both worlds IMO.
Quote from: TLLK on December 23, 2019, 02:40:17 PM
I believe that the Middletons now stay with the Cambridges at Amner Hall over the Christmas holidays and that way they're celebrating with both families. This way the children can enjoy the best of both worlds IMO.
I am sure they do, or Will and K will manage to spend some quality time with them. They are not expected to leave K's parents out of her life, nowadays like the families of new royal husbands and wives used to be left out..
The entire family was there last year 2018 Christmas and New years 2019, pics of Christmas at Anmer and New Year Sunday 2019 there's a photo of PP walking with the DOC's, behind the entire Middleton clan;Mike, Carole, James/Pippa/Arthur Mathews (nursery at Anmer plus Kates 3 children), James Middleton.
Perhaps they will be there or with the Mathews at St. Bart's (James family is already there) and James and Alizee.
I think the cameras will be on the little children though things could get complicated should the children throw tantrums.
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Quote from: TLLK on December 23, 2019, 02:40:17 PM
I believe that the Middletons now stay with the Cambridges at Amner Hall over the Christmas holidays and that way they're celebrating with both families. This way the children can enjoy the best of both worlds IMO.
I think Will and Kate will be at her parents home like they've always had. NOt the same as having her parents at the in laws, she would like to visit her old homestead.
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Quote from: amabel on December 23, 2019, 01:58:58 PM
but there has been endless cirtiicsm of the fact that Kate and Will spend a lot of time with the Middletons...
George may find it a relief he does not have to be in a royal PR and just can be a small child having fun
Quote from: wannable on December 23, 2019, 03:58:47 PM
The entire family was there last year 2018 Christmas and New years 2019, pics of Christmas at Anmer and New Year Sunday 2019 there's a photo of PP walking with the DOC's, behind the entire Middleton clan;Mike, Carole, James/Pippa/Arthur Mathews (nursery at Anmer plus Kates 3 children), James Middleton.
Perhaps they will be there or with the Mathews at St. Bart's (James family is already there) and James and Alizee.
Hopefully Mike and Carole have been saving those air miles! With two of their three children married with young families, they're likely finding it easier to be the ones traveling to see their daughters, sons-in-law and their grandchildren. In due time they'll see their youngest married and then starting on the same journey.
Getting back to the topic, I've read that the new Christmas pudding recipe includes poppy seeds paying homage to the British Legion's annual poppy sales.
If Mike and Carole aren't at Anmer this year, then I think they have arranged to be with the Cambridge's after new year, snow ski Kate birthday holiday...
I saw some pictures of James Mathew's family at St. Bart's, hence my previous comment. If you ask me, I prefer sunny St. Bart's rather than :snowflake:
I think Michael and Carole would enjoy a family gathering at their own place. No worries about royal protocol and so on.
Prince George makes puddings with the Queen in sweet early Christmas photos | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/prince-george-royal-family-make-pudding-christmas-photo-67887236)
https://www.today.com/popculture/see-prince-george-queen-elizabeth-make-christmas-pudding-t170472
The British Royal Family will release the embargoed video of the British Legion event at Buckingham Palace. I've read various cryptic tweets that George appearance is going to leave many if not all, amazeballs the kid.
When? My guess is anytime between the 26th and 31st of December. A trickle of royal news after the Queen's speech...
Quote from: sandy on December 23, 2019, 05:05:23 PM
I think Michael and Carole would enjoy a family gathering at their own place. No worries about royal protocol and so on.
Im sure they can adjust
Quite likely they realized that royal protocol was going to be a part of their lives from the moment that William told Mike he planned to propose to his eldest daughter. So that meant that any future grandchildren from William and Catherine would also have their part to play as well.
Hence George, Charlotte and Louis are seen participating in event like Trooping the Color, their Windsor relatives' weddings, photocalls and the occasional four generations engagement like the one carried out by QEII, the PoW, DoCam and Prince George prior to the luncheon.
Quote from: TLLK on December 23, 2019, 07:59:53 PM
Quite likely they realized that royal protocol was going to be a part of their lives from the moment that William told Mike he planned to propose to his eldest daughter.
Im sure.. I think that Will and kate have probably enjoyed visiting with the children.. but they will have Mike and C to stay as well....
It's not the same as the parents hosting their daughter and her husband and children at their home. And Kate's siblings and other family could be there as well, the other family members might not get invites by the royals.
Quote from: sandy on December 23, 2019, 09:07:17 PM
It's not the same as the parents hosting their daughter and her husband and children at their home. And Kate's siblings and other family could be there as well, the other family members might not get invites by the royals.
Im sure they will have a nice time at Chirstmas.. Does not seem that important who visits whom...
Quote from: amabel on December 23, 2019, 08:02:01 PM
Im sure.. I think that Will and kate have probably enjoyed visiting with the children.. but they will have Mike and C to stay as well....
Yes I agree. Amner Hall is large enough to host Mike/Carole, the Matthews and James/Alyzee with its many bedrooms. While they might not necessarily join the BRF for Christmas Eve or Day events, they'll likely have an invitation to tea while they visit with their eldest/sister daughter and her family. :xmas21:
I love this! They all look happy together.
The video has been released
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The Royal Family
Verified account
@royalfamily
The Queen, The Prince of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince George came together to make Christmas puddings at Buckingham Palace as part of a Royal British Legion initiative.
Watch this clip as Her Majesty and Their Royal Highnesses take part in the pudding stir.
Twitter (https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1209504083972890624)
Twitter (https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/status/1209504083972890624/video/1) Aww what an adorable video of the four generations and the representatives from the British Legion.
Prince George Makes Christmas Pudding with Queen Elizabeth - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOig6Of4OyA)
Princes George, William and Charles make Christmas pudding | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7825117/Prince-George-helps-prepare-Christmas-pudding-Royal-British-Legion-project.html)
Prince George provokes giggles in new video with the Queen, Charles and William | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2019122482414/prince-george-christmas-pudding-queen-video/)
Prince George Struggles to Mix Christmas Pudding in New Video (https://www.usmagazine.com/food/news/prince-george-struggles-to-mix-christmas-pudding-in-new-video/)
Prince George Steals the Show in Pics With William, Queen, Charles (https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-george-steals-the-show-in-pics-with-william-queen-charles/)
"steals the show" is an overrused phrase in royal coverage.
IN this instance not overused, George mainly front page worldwide and discussed by commentators, posters, SM, the others were secondary. The Queen competed the discussion with her handbag. :hehe:
@wannable-I agree. IMO George had the most coverage and discussion that day.
Remember what they say in show business about working with children and animals. :xmas1:
Quote from: wannable on December 27, 2019, 01:11:28 PM
IN this instance not overused, George mainly front page worldwide and discussed by commentators, posters, SM, the others were secondary. The Queen competed the discussion with her handbag. :hehe:
I think it's always over used. At the walk Charlotte "stole the show." Variety of expression should be used.
You do have a point about that
@sandy, but unfortunately the tabloid writers will likely go with whatever is easy and eye catching. The last time anyone ever critiqued their writing for a variety of phrases was probably the last English writing class they took. :xmas1:
Quote from: TLLK on December 27, 2019, 03:16:44 PM
You do have a point about that @sandy, but unfortunately the tabloid writers will likely go with whatever is easy and eye catching. The last time anyone ever critiqued their writing for a variety of phrases was probably the last English writing class they took. :xmas1:
They are not there for fien writing.. but just to convey some news and a bit of light reading. And some of the puns are good...
Quote from: sandy on December 27, 2019, 02:53:40 PM
I think it's always over used. At the walk Charlotte "stole the show." Variety of expression should be used.
There are so many overused, trite expressions. For example, so and so "stuns in _______". Another is so and so wraps up warm. Stealing the show is one of them, for sure.
if you are looking for elegant writing not much point reading tabloid storie about royals..
Quote from: amabel on December 28, 2019, 01:48:58 PM
if you are looking for elegant writing not much point reading tabloid storie about royals..
No, But it could be different if they would just use their journalism degrees, which included a great deal of classical reading and, one thought, quality writing.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on December 28, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
No, But it could be different if they would just use their journalism degrees, which included a great deal of classical reading and, one thought, quality writing.
Journalism degrees? Classsical reading>?>?
Read a book, fiction or based on real life, classic romance novels...
Both tabloids and broadsheets aren't for elegant reading; crude, soft, hyped up or not, opinionated in all politics, social, sports, etc, hard reading, light reading. I think its good, we have less dementia in the population whatever and whichever section people like to read daily.
Quote from: amabel on December 28, 2019, 04:03:19 PM
Journalism degrees? Classsical reading>?>?
Yes, their requirements include English Lit classes in both classical and modern reading. The purpose of this is to be influenced by good quality grammar and structure. Or perhaps I'm dating myself.
Never heard of any of this.. and the newspapers esp the tabloids are not for the promotion of Enlgish Lit or fine writing. They are for light gossipy news and entertainmten that are an easy read. People don't read them for serious news or for improving their minds...
Quote from: amabel on January 01, 2020, 08:56:14 AM
Never heard of any of this.. and the newspapers esp the tabloids are not for the promotion of Enlgish Lit or fine writing. They are for light gossipy news and entertainmten that are an easy read. People don't read them for serious news or for improving their minds...
But I'm not even suggesting that journalists should create elegant tomes. The reason they study those things is for grammar, sentence structure, figures of speech, etc. Those things are just basic writing skills, for any kind of writing style, be it for newspapers or books. There is a lot of sloppy writing in those tabloids, but my real point is that journalists were once taught to write the news objectively in a certain style and to save the editorializing for the opinion column. Now they write whatever will sell, no matter who they trash or how far they stretch the truth. That's called yellow journalism in my book, and it's a far cry from what it should be. And light or heavy, they should follow basic rules of the written word.
Quote from: Princess Cassandra on January 01, 2020, 03:08:43 PM
But I'm not even suggesting that journalists should create elegant tomes. The reason they study those things is for grammar, sentence structure, figures of speech, etc. Those things are just basic writing skills, for any kind of writing style, be it for newspapers or books. There is a lot of sloppy writing in those tabloids, but my real point is that journalists were once taught to write the news objectively in a certain style and to save the editorializing for the opinion column. Now they write whatever will sell, no matter who they trash or how far they stretch the truth. That's called yellow journalism in my book, and it's a far cry from what it should be. And light or heavy, they should follow basic rules of the written word.
yes tabloids ARE low end journalism. They write what will sell.. they write for easy reading.. for people who don't read much and want a light fun read with some gossip...
Cute pic from last year of Prince George and Zara
Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_cambridgess/status/1275132369348046850?s=21)
Love seeing the photos that demonstrate the close relationship that the members of the family have with each other. :friends:
Happy Birthday Prince George! Stunning new images taken by Kate Middleton are released | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8544839/Happy-Birthday-Prince-George-Stunning-new-images-taken-Kate-Middleton-released.html)
Kate Middleton's son Prince George all grown-up on seventh birthday - new photos | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072193874/prince-george-seventh-birthday-new-photos/)
Prince George Birthday Portrait's Military Nod | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-george-birthday-portraits-military-camo-shirt-nod-prince-william-prince-harry/)
Prince George 7th Birthday Portraits | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-george-is-turning-7-see-how-he-has-grown-up-in-latest-photos-from-him-mom-kate-middleton/)
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Happy birthday Prince George! New photographs are released as the future king turns seven-years-old ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/happy-birthday-prince-george-new-photographs-are-released-as-the-future-king-turns-seven-years-old-146221/)
Prince George photos mark seventh birthday - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53494365)
Prince George: New photos released of royal to mark his seventh birthday | UK News | Sky News (https://news.sky.com/story/prince-george-new-photos-released-of-royal-to-mark-his-seventh-birthday-12033567)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1312552/prince-george-looks-like-prince-william-aged-7-prince-george-birthday
Prince George?s hidden nod to uncle Prince Harry in birthday picture revealed | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1312534/prince-george-pictures-prince-harry-army-prince-george-birthday-latest)
Prince George birthday photos: Happy birthday as Prince George turns 7 | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1312502/prince-george-birthday-photos-news-age-kate-middleton)
New photos of Prince George released to mark his seventh birthday | ITV News (https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-21/new-photos-of-prince-george-released-to-mark-his-seventh-birthday)
Prince George beams in two new photos taken by Kate to celebrate seventh birthday - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-prince-george-beams-two-22392522)
Gap-toothed Prince George raises smiles across the nation as he turns seven (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12188051/prince-george-raises-smiles-turns-seven/)
Aww..look how much George has grown this year. :happy: :bdaycake: :happyuk: A very Happy (early) birthday to Prince George.
I used to think Prince George was all Middleton but I see some William in the new pics
Prince George Smiles For the Camera In Honor of His ?Staycation? Seventh Birthday | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/07/prince-george-birthday-photos?utm_social-type=owned&utm_brand=vf&mbid=social_twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)
Quotelashing a big smile and his big kid teeth, Prince George shows how much he has grown in two new pictures released to mark the future King?s seventh birthday on Wednesday.
The photographs by the Duchess of Cambridge, taken at the family?s Norfolk home where the family are enjoying the school summer holidays, show just how tall George has gotten. Once camera-shy the future king looks full of beans and confidence as he smiles for the camera.
Happy birthday. I think some Norfolk little friends will be at his party today. :bday4:
That's James' twin! Happy birthday to prince George!
On behalf of The Coldstream Guards, Number 7 Company wish Prince George a happy seventh birthday!
Three cheers for Prince George!
Video: Twitter (https://twitter.com/ColdstreamGds/status/1285869231582707712?s=20)
Happy, Joyous Birthday to Prince George!
:bdaycake: :bdaycake: :bdaycake:
Kate Middleton's 'emotional bond' with Prince George is reflected in birthday photos | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8548529/Kate-Middletons-emotional-bond-Prince-George-reflected-birthday-photos.html)
Royal fans go wild over similar resemblance between Prince George and James Middleton | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8545571/Royal-fans-wild-similar-resemblance-Prince-George-James-Middleton.html)
Happy Birthday Prince George! Stunning new images taken by Kate Middleton are released | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8544839/Happy-Birthday-Prince-George-Stunning-new-images-taken-Kate-Middleton-released.html)
Tiny detail in Prince George's birthday photos prove Kate Middleton is a laidback mum | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072293957/kate-middleton-prince-george-birthday-photo-broken-button/)
Prince George is the spitting image of mum Kate Middleton - see the photo to prove it | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072293952/prince-george-spitting-image-mum-kate-middleton/)
Prince Charles is a doting grandfather as he shares birthday message for Prince George | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072293926/prince-charles-birthday-message-prince-george/)
The Queen sends sweet birthday message to Prince George | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072293929/queen-birthday-message-prince-george/)
Prince George twins with dad Prince William in camouflage print on 7th birthday | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072293934/prince-george-dresses-like-prince-william-camouflage/)
Kate Middleton's son Prince George all grown-up on seventh birthday - new photos | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020072193874/prince-george-seventh-birthday-new-photos/)
Prince George: 7th Birthday Wishes from Royals | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-george-birthday/)
https://www.newmyroyals.com/2020/07/two-new-photos-of-prince-george-have.html
https://www.therealmyroyals.com/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-shared-new-photos-of-prince-george-on-the-occasion-of-his-7th-birthday/
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/happy-birthday-prince-george-new-photographs-are-released-as-the-future-king-turns-seven-years-old-146221/
This needs to be a keepsake here for history. Very nice picture Balmoral, Summer 2015
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/14/18/41758692-9471405-A_second_picture_of_Her_Majesty_and_her_husband_was_share_on_the-a-78_1618421352355.jpg)
Balmoral, Summer 2018
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/14/18/41758050-9471405-Prince_William_and_Kate_Middleton_have_released_a_touching_photo-a-80_1618421866026.jpg)
Love Prince George in his tartan shorts!
And the matching shoes with the Queen! :notworthy:
I love that photo. Grannie and Gramps with their kiddos. :hearts:
And I love the eye contact between Charlotte and QE
I see George has a booboo on his knee :P
Quote from: TLLK on March 27, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
I think he's a combination of both parents at this point. He has William's lighter hair color, but I think the face shape is more like Kate's baby photos
I've noticed that you often see similarities in looks between nephews and their maternal uncles. I've seen it in my own family several times, and I've noticed that George bears a striking resemblance to the few pictures we've seen of James Middleton as a child.
*[The Queen] has always been incredibly loving towards the children. I can see it now with George and Charlotte. She is very doting on them and likes to keep an eye on them. Particularly Charlotte. She is fascinated by what Charlotte gets up to.*
- Prince William speaking about how hands on The Queen is as a grandmother (2016)
Credit: willandKate tumblr
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on April 16, 2021, 04:15:03 PM
*[The Queen] has always been incredibly loving towards the children. I can see it now with George and Charlotte. She is very doting on them and likes to keep an eye on them. Particularly Charlotte. She is fascinated by what Charlotte gets up to.*
- Prince William speaking about how hands on The Queen is as a grandmother (2016)
Credit: willandKate tumblr
That is so sweet! I'm so glad that HM has more time to enjoy her youngest grands and her great grands. It isn't everyone that has great memories of their great grandmothers or great grandfathers, but these children are fortunate and do.
A place to chat about Georgie
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Kate Middleton and Prince William told Prince George he will one day be King 'around his seventh birthday' and began to explain what his life of 'service and duty' will involve, royal author claims
NEW In a new chapter of his updated book Battle of Brothers, released today, royal author Robert Lacey told how William and Kate, both 39, wanted to broach the subject at a 'controlled moment of their choice'.
It must make him feel more comfortable about it, knowing that his father is in the same position. It's hard to believe they were able to keep the school children or even their cousins from mentioning it to him, but if they were successful I'm happy that they were able to be the ones to explain, and in the way that they wanted to.
I read not that long ago Lady Louise didn't know her grandmother was the 'Queen' until relatively recently.
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on June 24, 2021, 07:40:21 PM
I read not that long ago Lady Louise didn't know her grandmother was the 'Queen' until relatively recently.
Louise would have been around George's age likely.
She was 12 when her mother revealed that Louise only knew her grandmother was queen 'a few years before'
https://www.everythingzoomer.com/arts-entertainment/stars-royals/2016/05/11/lady-louise-didnt-know-grandmother-was-queen-elizabeth/
With Louise its even easier to understand. She wouldnt have been over recognized when she was younger. Her classmates likely didnt associate her with 'one of those people on the balcony' for those years.
Even with George its the same. Not too many little kids follow royalty other then maybe the Queen. George would just be George to them.I highly doubt he didn't already know he was royal as he attends events (Louise had a lot more private life). But knowing he is a future king and what that means is different.
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Big moment for Prince George as he joins William and Kate at Wembley! Singing the national anthem: #ENGGER #DukeandDuchessofCambridge
https://twitter.com/emynash/status/1409904838767435790
Love George?s Big Kid jacket and tie
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He looks so cute singing the national anthem.
Looks so grown up!
Thank you for sharing the videos and photos of the Cambridges at the match today.
Must be exciting and overwhelming at the same time. I noticed George was watching himself on the big screen 😂
The nation holds its breath: England grinds to a halt as Euros clash with old rivals Germany | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9737841/The-nation-holds-breath-England-grinds-halt-Euros-clash-old-rivals-Germany.html)
Kate Middleton joins Prince William to watch England's Euro 2020 clash against Germany at Wembley | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9737455/Kate-Middleton-joins-Prince-William-watch-Englands-Euro-2020-clash-against-Germany-Wembley.html)
Euro 2020: Princes Harry and George and Kate Middleton watch England victory over Germany at Wembley | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9737951/Prince-George-seven-mumbles-God-Save-Queen-Wembley.html)
Prince George Attends Euro 2020 Game with Kate Middleton, Prince William | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/royals/prince-george-attends-england-soccer-game-kate-middleton-prince-william-euro-2020/)
Kate Middleton, Prince George and Prince William cheer on England team at Wembley - live updates | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/gallery/20210629116422/kate-middleton-prince-william-watch-england-vs-germany-wembley-euro-2020/1/)
Kate Middleton wows in symbolic look for surprise Euros appearance | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/royal-style/20210629116427/kate-middleton-red-blazer-euros-match-wembley/)
WATCH: Prince George sing God Save the Queen at Wembley Stadium with Kate Middleton | HELLO! (https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20210629116440/watch-prince-george-sing-god-save-the-queen/)
Prince George melts hearts as young royal sings national anthem at England-Germany clash | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456134/Prince-George-news-latest-pictures-England-Germany-Euro-2020-Kate-Middleton-William-vn)
Kate Middleton pictures at England-Germany with Prince George and William excite fans | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456130/kate-Middleton-latest-pictures-England-Germany-Prince-George-William-Wembley-Royal)
Kate and Wills both at the England match - who was looking after Charlotte and Louis? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456204/Kate-Middleton-prince-William-England-match-princess-Charlotte-prince-Louis-evg)
Stay with nanny Maria
Prince George puzzles royal fans with 'unofficial' tie at England game | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456200/prince-george-tie-england-v-germany-euro-game-wembley-stadium-prince-william-kate-royals)
Prince George, Charlotte and Louis: Will they all be at Wembley if England reach final? | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456536/prince-george-princess-charlotte-prince-louis-news-euros-final-wembley-evg)
Charlotte and Louis stay home with nanny Maria
Prince George hailed as England's 'lucky royal charm' after his appearance at Wembley | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456502/Prince-George-news-England-Wembley-Germany-Euro-2020-Royal-Family-latest-update-vn)
Prince George rolls eyes during God Save the Queen - royal fans tickled | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456367/prince-george-england-game-national-anthem-god-save-queen-prince-william-kate)
Prince George puzzles royal fans with 'unofficial' tie at England game | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456200/prince-george-tie-england-v-germany-euro-game-wembley-stadium-prince-william-kate-royals)
Prince William latest news: Duke throws hands in air as England BEATS Germany ? pictures | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1456167/Prince-William-latest-news-pictures-england-goal-reaction-video-Kate-George-Royal-Family)
William and Kate Middleton at England v Germany in first football game as couple - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-william-kate-middleton-england-24423473)
Prince William ecstatic and George beams with joy as England thrash Germany 2-0 - Mirror Online (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-william-ecstatic-george-beams-24424438)
Prince George, Kate and William join the Beckhams and Ed Sheeran to cheer on England in Euros 2020 (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15432359/kate-middleton-prince-william-england-euros-2020-germany/)
Prince George attends the England vs Germany match alongside William and Catherine ? Royal Central (https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/cambridge/prince-george-attends-the-england-vs-germany-match-alongside-william-and-catherine-162461/)
I love they all using FA ties.
Prince George cheers on England at his first ever international match ? Metro (https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/29/england-v-germany-prince-george-attends-euros-with-william-and-kate-14847625/amp/?ito=article.mweb.share.top.twitter&__twitter_impression=true)
Quote from: PrincessOfPeace on June 29, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
Prince George cheers on England at his first ever international match ? Metro (https://metro.co.uk/2021/06/29/england-v-germany-prince-george-attends-euros-with-william-and-kate-14847625/amp/?ito=article.mweb.share.top.twitter&__twitter_impression=true)
It was interesting to learn that Prince George was referred to as
a lucky charm. Has the Press already decided who his wife will be?
Regarding a future wife, I have not read anything from the media.
Quote from: TLLK on June 29, 2021, 10:58:18 PM
Regarding a future wife, I have not read anything from the media.
he's a bit young for that sort of speculation, isn't he?
Just a bit. Maybe we should the poor kid get through puberty and acne first
I took the question of 'has the Press already decided who his wife will be'? as a joke. Only because LF used Caps in the P for press...
Yes I expect it was a joke. All the same, there has been so much sadness for a lot of royals caused by the press going "who will he marry".. Maybe it is something that needs to vanish from royal gossip columns
https://twitter.com/mayleenramey/status/1410273773601841167
This person had a run in with George and Kate. George zoomed past her on his bike, Kate right behind and the poor Security guy trying to keep up. :P
Kate's strict bedtime rule with Prince George will stop him from attending royal events | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1494399/kate-middleton-duchess-with-prince-george-royal-latest-vn)
Articles says Prince George wouldn?t join his parents to bond premiere due ages till George turned 18-21 years old and he had school in the morning for god sake he is 8 years old not during school years not under his parents watch
Quote from: sara8150 on September 21, 2021, 06:39:24 PM
Kate's strict bedtime rule with Prince George will stop him from attending royal events | Royal | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1494399/kate-middleton-duchess-with-prince-george-royal-latest-vn)
Articles says Prince George wouldn?t join his parents to bond premiere due ages till George turned 18-21 years old and he had school in the morning for god sake he is 8 years old not during school years not under his parents watch
I agree with her. A healthy routine includes the right amount of sleep, and kids need more sleep than adults. Thanks to his parents George and his siblings are learning the right priorities and the importance of taking good care of themselves. Anyway, that premiere is no place for a young boy in my opinion.
According to royal expert, Neil Sean...
Another one who doesn't 'travel' with any of the senior royals to their multiple yearly engagements to have a face to face, see for yourself with any of them. Maybe in the past, but like Adam he is also retired and stating his feelings of what should be making it sound like it's factual, although W&K are conservative with their children with the little we have seen, the most was Kate's celebrated Back To Nature Chelsea garden show with William and the children.
ALL James Bond films are rated PG-13. PG-13 is violence, brief strong language and some suggestive material-images.
I don?t see any need for George to be with his parents for a movie premiere. Only if it was a kids movie or a documentary like David Attenborough. But no need with Bond.
Quote from: Macrobug67 on September 22, 2021, 03:33:34 PM
I don?t see any need for George to be with his parents for a movie premiere. Only if it was a kids movie or a documentary like David Attenborough. But no need with Bond.
William and Kate make decisions for their kids get ready for bedtime due school year for god sakes George is 8 years old but I?m sure wait till George turns 18-21 years old for movies premiere
Kate told performers years ago that their kids can?t attend events due bedtime nearby for school year wait till kids get older they can go attend movies premiere and events also
The Prince of Wales has revealed how he has named an autumn garden at his Balmoral home after his eldest grandchild, Prince George.
The future king, 72, spoke to the BBC in an arboretum that he created in the gardens of Birkhall on the Balmoral estate in Scotland.
"This was a rather empty field that the farm didn't need anymore," he said. "The great thing was that I managed to plant it the same year that my grandson was born, the eldest, George, so I thought I'd call it Prince George's wood."
Prince Charles' sweet tribute to Prince George at Balmoral home - watch video | HELLO! (https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20211011123701/prince-george-sweet-tribute-for-prince-george-balmoral/?viewas=amp&__twitter_impression=true)
QuoteSpeaking about the garden he referred to as an "old man's obsession," Charles said: "It is really for autumn colour and a bit of spring. But autumn is the magic up here. So finding all the interesting trees and shrubs that turn an interesting colour is half the battle."
:happy: What a sweet tribute to his eldest grandchild.
Yes, I?m sure his other grandchildren, including George?s siblings Charlotte and Louis, will appreciate the gesture as they grow up. George?s importance in the hierarchy of the BRF marked as soon as he was born. Great stuff for the also-rans, Charles other grandchildren, to contemplate.
What a lovely tribute for George and I bet he would in time love to share the area with all his siblings and cousins and whomever. I don't think any garden area has to be named after any child just because he was born first in line of a monarchy. Maybe Charles named it after George because he loved him and saw a rambunctious little boy who would love running around playing hide and seek with his grandfather.
I wonder if the autumn garden has any Princess Charlotte Chrysanthemums that were named after George's sister in 2016.
We're now at 15+ pages on this thread. It's time to close it and start a new one.